It is natural for men like you to crave the validation of their existence and get depressed if they fail to feel relevant, responsible.
The best way for a man to cater his need for approval is to serve some woman (and some of her children) through emotional&financial support.
Men are pleased to contribute to someone else life, to support their family.
The problem for men is that they are disposable in the eyes of each woman, since all men wish to serve the few women who talk to them.
Men must thus invent several ways to please women, invention and creativity which strengthen their feeling of being worthy, relevant, in touch with reality. Men are too impotent to find other way to feel real.
Once that the a woman replaces a man by another provider, the man gets very upset and depressed.
This leads men to think that they are better than women, stronger, smarter and that they must built a life outside women. Some men manage to indeed built an empire, but they will always loos it for some women.
Women give meaning to men and betas, no matter how successful outside women, will always give up everything for some relationship with some woman who claim to fancy them.
>>28923961
That is a very nice looking torta.
>>28923961
Developing an internal sense of self worth that does not depend on any external validation, and abstaining from sex and masturbation is the only way to transcend your role in nature as a disposable utility and feel like a complete human being free of such petty constraints, and ultimately overcome your programming, for to reject procreation is to reject the limitations of the human body
>>28924068
You lack the hardware for internal validation. You are designed to please women by sacrificing for them.
Just like a hammer used to hold the door open rather than beat on a nail, you are misused if you try to be your own person, by yourself. You will never feel right and proper that way.
Also if you go 2-3 months without masturbation you will just start creaming your panties while you sleep, your body is also designed to test the equipment every now and again. Enjoy waking up in dried sperm, oh pure one.
>>28924193
Everyone has the hardware for it, and is capable of developing the software for it.
>>28924193
>You are designed to please women by sacrificing for them.
Not one iota of this is left in me
>>28924193
>you are misused if you try to be your own person, by yourself.
contradicts itself since because I am alone no one is using or misusing me, and I am taking care of myself in those regards
>>28924193
(You) will never feel right and proper that way. because you still need approval from women to feel fulfilled, need to feel masculine to feel complete, and need to see yourself as a disposable utility in order to feel masculine.
I am happy effeminate manchild. My personal MGTOW credo is:
1. I disregard masculinity, whether socially constructed or biological. Though I am cisgender, being a man is not a part of my personal identity, I instead see myself as a human being, and am free to be myself no matter how masculine or feminine, and to whom
2. I do not compare myself to other men, and I refuse to compete with other men. I see myself as intrinsically valuable person that does not need to feel he is better than other people or special snowflake. I am not afraid to fight, and I am not afraid to run away, but my default state of being is centered tranquility, I not not submit to other men's attempts to be socially dominant over me, and I do not feel the need to establish dominance over others
3. I am not concerned with impressing, pleasing, attracting or sacrificing for women
I had only 1 wet dream so far. Unlike the last time I fapped, it wasn't painful and I felt OK afterwards. Having to change another pair of sleep pants once a week is just a minor annoyance. Fapping prevents prostate cancer is bullshit broscience meme inspired by reverse correlation. If body is healthy t will occasionally clean the pipes while I'm asleep, and I need not ever voluntarily do it, and I won't because I have never been able to do it in moderation. The only way to quit fapping addiction was to quit fapping altogether, and so far very successful
>>28924443
>>28924429
What do you do and what is your purpose?
Are you a poor man's hedonist, who gets off on eating chocolate cake rather than orgies?
Are you a poor man's academic, who gets off on solving internet forum riddles and pretends he is useful?
Are you expecting validation from parents, friends and relatives instead of women, basically doing the same bark all men do, but at the wrong tree?
What do you do, and why do you keep doing it, rather than giving up and dying, without a purpose or goal?
Because a man can't have purpose or goals other than sacrificing for a woman and her children. Or if you are feeling fancy, a country, or an idea, or any other proxy for woman you may invent.
>>28924506
In a way, it seems that my highest purpose is the continued transcendence of all the limitations of life that I never before though were possible, or were previously unseen and taken as first principles of human existence- such as being a slave to your libido, and seeking meaning through female validation, moving my body and using my breath in ways I could not imagine, developing ever more rock solid self confidence and emotional resilience. In an ideal world I would help others liberate themselves as much as I have, but have come to accept that this is impossible because I cannot simply teach others what is in my head, for it is the result of my own journey and subjective experiences. You cannot teach anyone to become zen, they must become zen while not trying to become zen- if that makes any sense.
I highly encourage you to watch (listen) to the first 3 vidoes on 'male mother need' and then go down to 'desire for unfreedom'" which explain and elucidate in detail this concept and ways of overcoming it
>>28924677
>Are you a poor man's hedonist, who gets off on eating chocolate cake rather than orgies?
My view of beautiful women is that they are like God's works of art to be admired with pleasure, but they cannot be possessed or controlled. This was like how it was before I ever masturbated, and is the state I have returned to. Even when I still was afapping and porn addict, I would see browsing porn as if I was visiting an art gallery.
I readily admit that of the 5 senses, there is nothing more pleasurable on earth to see or touch than sexy female bodies, so in this way I am inevitably a hedonist in that I take pleasure in observing and feeling woman. But that is all there is to it. Ironically it seems, I recognize in myself a very deep appreciation, attraction and adoration to the feminine, as well as many feminine personality characteristics in myself which often get me confused for being homosexual. But it makes perfect sense to me- why wouldn't I love to bask in the warmth of feminine energy, and cultivate my own so that my masculine and feminine, sun and moon, yin and yang is balanced. I see this as a gift actually, and it may be why I am better at overcoming the proclivity for self sacrifice to and validation by women, because I feel a sense of completeness and balance, whereas men with a more masculine polarity tend to be the most agitated when they lack fulfillment in in love and lovemaking.
>Are you a poor man's academic, who gets off on solving internet forum riddles and pretends he is useful?
I get off on introspection and figuring myself out, as well as the world around me in increasingly understanding how things work, both on logical and emotional levels- be it sexuality, social dynamics, economics, spirituality, the human body, personalities, language, dialogue, and whatever else comes up. Often I find that trying to explain things to people on an internet forum, whether relating to how I see myself or things outside myself, gives me a better understanding than if I alone was asking the questions and replying to myself in my own mind.
>Are you expecting validation from parents, friends and relatives instead of women,
Nothing of the sort. I am objectively by societal standards an absolute failure in life and a totally worthless loser, yet how I see myself is the complete opposite, and I am happier than 99.99% of 4chan
>>28924677
I forgot videos link
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCo1qRcO1OehgkOD_fHsu_uQ/search?query=male+mother+need
>>28924506
>tfw you just want to live like captain Nemo from 20 leagues under the sea.
>Anon said it's just a proxy for a woman
Internet is a tough nut to crack.
>fapoholic anonymous *46 days fap free*
You never told us what you do. How does your time pass?
What actions and diversions do you entertain yourself with between waking up and going to sleep again?
I highly doubt you are a 24/7 full on religious spiritual mystic. I hope so, at any rate.
>>28925145
Well in contrast to they typical NEET lifestyle of sedentary indoor swelling, I spend lots of time outside, enjoying simple pleasures of life, just going for long walks, enjoying the sights of city and nature, including getting to look at women despite nothing further happening.
I am heavily introverted and find myself thinking, daydreaming, musing and contemplating things throughout the day. When indoors I have a habit of being on the computer all the time, but I found that replacing my hair with a music stand and placing a keyboard with touchpad upon it and perching the monitor atop some boxes on the table makes me less addicted to internet, better posture, and a whole lot less likely to browse porn or relapse into masturbation compared ot sitting. When alternating before banishing chairs, I found a stark contrast- just sitting down causes my to be much more glues to the computer screen compared to standing, where I can readily peel myself away and go outside or go to sleep.
I am still very much an internet addict though. I love to have both intriguing discussion and shitposting on 4chan, learn from wikipeia articles, listen to youtube content and music, watch certain TV shows and read some blogs.
I never owned video games in my life and have no interest in them. However, I am very suceptible to being addicted to simple cellphone and computer games like "bubble shooter"- though come to think of it its been awhile since I played them- likely due to standing up. When sitting on my ass I had a tendency to just keep playing bubble shooter, sometimes for over an hour.
I have heard the advice to feel gratitude and see life through that perspective for many years, and as of last few months, am increasingly mindful of gratitude wherever I am, no matter how good or bad things seem at the moment.
roastie and chips?
