Who /communist/ here?
What do you do to get back at the bourgeois
I never understood why people are still communists
When has your shitty ideology ever worked, pro tip, if you say true communism has never been tried, you have brain damage.
I agree with some Communist ideas but not with others.
How's high school treating you?
>inb4 depaul university
>>28893511
But it hasn't anon. No communist country has ever accurately followed the principles of marx.
Capitalism has failed worse than communism
>>28893535
Which ones do you agree with and which ones do you not agree with?
>>28893484
the slavaboos from /k/ are raiding this place again, get out bolshevik scum! shoo shoo! back to your board
>>28893614
And no country ever will. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
>>28893614
>Which ones do you agree with and which ones do you not agree with?
I think capitalism and wage slavery suck dick but I'm not really convinced by the radical egalitarianism or the possibility of a society free of exploitation and hierarchy.
>>28893614
Thanks for showing me you're retarded
I can leave this thread now
pro tip, true capitalism has never been tried, true fascism has never been tried, true monarchy has never been tried, true insert every single other ideology has never been tried
Fucking post your gains, weakling commie. I could break your neck with one hand.
https://gyazo.com/072e1776040d034758658e7acfc24676
>>28893484
Just a quick reminder that you educated people people will be the first to lined up against a wall when your beloved communist revolution happens
>>28893484
I may be dumb, but at least I'm not dumb enough to fall for the Marxism meme
P R I C E . C A L C U L A T I O N . P R O B L E M
lenin a shit marx a shit any non-libertarian ideology a shit property a shit government a shit you're waifu a shit
Anarchist reporting in.
>>28895002
Despite Bakunin's qualms with Marx, he was definitely influenced by him and was in fact responsible for the first Russian translation of Marx's Capital. While I agree that Lenin and Leninism ought to be discarded, I think all anarchists should read and understand Marx and his methods. Disregarding him altogether is unwise.
>>28894408
Get fucked, tripfag cunt.
>>28893614
>No communist country has ever accurately followed the principles of marx
yes. and none ever will. to follow the principles of marx someone must think that the individual is not greedy, which is inherently false. Why do you think capitalism works so well? because it doesn't lie to itself.
>B-BUT THEY WEREN'T REAL COMMUNISTS
Maybe this suggests a problem with communism if it can't even be attempted without some bureaucrats fucking it all up. Revolution is unrealistic and should be avoided. Democracy and gradual reform are the only way to actually achieve communism, and the far left is not popular nor has any chance of becoming so for at least several decades, regardless of what Noam Chomsky says about the media.
>>28895068
you're literally no better than the commies.
>>28895068
I don't think there's anything emancipatory in Marx, he took almost all of his ideas from anarchists in the first place and historical materialism as a kind of voodoo that can predict the future or even adequately explain human motivations is stupid and discredited.
>>28895277
>the individual is inherently greedy
Have you ever read a book on anthropology, kiddo?
>>28893484
Hell is other leftists.
Who /foucualt/ here?
>>28893484
Have fun propagating methods of national destabilization for your overlords.
>>28895337
Nope. Taken an economics class though.
>>28895388
Have fun slaving away for yours while they reap the fruits of your labor.
>>28895417
Nice projecting, wagecuck. I might as well be an honorary Jew.
>>28895417
Get in the bread line Sergei.
>>28893742
>communism has anything to do with absolute power
>>28895405
I hope you mean a class on experimental behavioral economics, otherwise LOL. Pure ideology.
>>28895512
Just show me how the individual isn't greedy if you want to actual make an argument with substance.
>>28895617
I have to make an actual argument with substance, but you get to make assertions? Show me how the individual *is* greedy. Define what it would mean for people to be greedy. Explain why communism fails if humans are greedy according to that definition.
Humans are not greedy as described by Econ 101 rational choice models. Any time someone gives money to a charity they don't personally benefit from is proof of this. (And you could reinterpret all altruistic motives as greedy motives, but doing so would make your doctrine both empty and non-falsifiable.)
>>28893484
I believe that communism is can work on a small scale within a capitalist system. I don't know why communists just protest or philosophize rather than actually doing something
>>28895719
Not that anon, but why are the assertions of econ classes more valuable? It isn't exactly hard to see the history of education as a means of indoctrinate.
>>28895793
I'm not quite sure what this is saying. I think I worded that poorly. I'm not saying that Econ 101 shows that humans are not greedy, I'm saying the opposite, that Econ 101 models rely on the simplifying assumption of rational choice theory which is at the very least an imperfect model of human psychology. So when that anon says "humans are greedy, I know this because I took intro to microeconomics" they get things backwards -- that course material didn't prove that humans are greedy, rather it relied on that unjustified (within the scope of the course material) assumption.
>>28895719
Communism fails because the individual always wants more, or at least usually. Especially in America, almost every child wants to make a lot of money and have a big house and drive a fast car. When the state has the power to tell you that you can't have all that money, then it's a problem. And donating to charity? How many people do you know that donate to charities? I certainly don't know any or very few. And to imply that someone would work for the greater good, and be satisfied by getting just everything "according to his need" is honestly retarded. We always want more, nothing is ever enough. If you need proof of that then you need a reality check.
>>28895793
I'm not asserting that econ classes are more valuable, I'm just saying I took one. Although it did probably sound like it haha
Communism cannot work because humans are corrupt. It will never work in practice, so spend your time supporting something more realistic. Personally, I'm a National Socialist.
>>28895497
>implying communism isn't an authoritarian ideaology
Riiiight...no but seriously you're fucking retarded
>>28893484
I'm anarchic by nature, but for pragmatism's sake I accept the status quo. One thing you'll never be able to resolve is the fact that men are not created equal.
>>28893484
fellow comrade here
i scoop ice cream for a job. I always give out significantly larger portions than i should to increase my tips and decrease my bosses profit
>>28896220
You realize that simply attracts more customers so your boss makes more profit right? Cuz you know people want larger ice cream portions...
>>28893484
do you know where you're at? this a a majority right-wing board. mostly socially moderate(or leftish), fiscally conservative libertarians
you're better off to go whine on reddit with your retarded naive ideals
>>28895786
what exactly could they do, short of attempting a futile violent revolution? even most left wingers don't seem to want communism
>>28896288
even if it worked that way, which it doesn't, the overwhelming majority of my customers are on vacation and will be out of town before they want ice cream again.
>>28896337
Ah alright, while I'm not a communist myself at least you're rebelling against the "bourgeoisie" effectively instead of being a giant hipster sjw faggot. If you're gonna be a commie, do it properly is all I ask from communists.
>>28896291
Fiscally conservative? Where would the neetbux come from then?
>>28896291
Naw most of this board is filled with nazi fashtards that came from /pol/.
I haven't been an edgy 15 year old for 5 years now, I'm well past the thinking communism is good stage
More into social democracy desu. Socialism could be an ultimate goal though. I just want to deal with immediate, politically feasible problems first.
>>28893484
I laugh at them and their normie ideals.
>>28895002
In the communist society there is no state. The state exists during the socialist period, but is dissolved as society transitions to communism.
With the rise of technology we can finally have a society where corrupt humans are not in power.
>>28893614
> capitalism has failed worse than communism
Are you actually retarded or are you just baiting?
>>28893614
>No communist country has ever accurately followed the principles of marx.
I wonder why
Anything that fucks over people who got luckier than me is good. I don't even believe in communism, but who cares.
left communist here
Marx is great but "orthodox" marxists are shit
economics and a dialectical philosophy of history aren't enough to understand the present situation, y'all really need to read Society of the Spectacle
denying crimes of the ussr or crying about how it "wasn't communist" doesn't really help the cause either.
But for IRL activism I will work with almost anyone, it comes down to being issues-based rather than ideology based as a political actor, real praxis is achieved when your philosophy guides your decisions of what to work on, and the reality on the ground guides the determination of how to achieve it. I've worked alongside a lot of anarchists, and a few very principled liberals.
Just a friendly reminder that the bourgeois are not the enemy per se, the bourgeois that stop progress towards a fully automated society are the ones we should be fighting
capitalism has proved to be more effective at creating the technology needed for communism than socialism
>>28895093
At least you selected the original picture where you can see how these upstanding communists need two watches; one for each arm.
