>lefties
No wonder you're all a bunch of Beta faggots who bump bro nigger/Bernie threads
this is more of a /pol/ type shitpost desu
>he actually thinks shit like this is real
>>28866320
This whole site hates on niggers, you goddamned SJW.
>>28866045
>/pol/
>In charge of not being autistic
sjws are not leftists.
ALL identity politics are firmly rightwing territory.
>>28866045
>>28866444
God are you retarded
>>28866690
ok lefty
>>28866784
Am I supposed to be offended by you acknowledging that I support workers?
>>28866831
>workers
nice 20th century meme
>>28866690
So communism is right-wing?
>>28866690
Sup youtube
>>28866845
Nothing about communism is involved in identity politics.
>>28866837
>workers do not exist
>wageslavery does not exist
>workers do not have their surplus value extracted
W E W L A D
>>28866885
See: >>28866871
Learn about what you bait with or it's too obvious reddit
>>28866885
except of course the identity afforded someone by virtue of working, i.e. being a worker : )
>>28866359
It probably is.
http://nypost.com/2014/08/16/woman-bearhugs-alleged-phone-thief-after-five-block-chase/
http://gawker.com/all-the-things-not-to-do-when-you-capture-your-own-chil-1623421423
>fat nigglet cops a phone
>gets chased down by a white chick
>liberals bitch that the woman was racist to apprehend him and get her phone back
>>28866897
what the fuck are you talking about?
>>28866909
Proletariat and bourgoisie are terms used to describe people that either privately own industry or don't. It's not identity politics like "muh white heritage" vs "muh black heritage", this is a materialist perspective and non-identarian political stance "the quality of life would be better for everyone if workers controlled industry, this would also happen to abolish class".
>>28867006
Communism is identity politics. The economic policies are just to realize the social ones. Read Anti-Duhring or just Kapital you shitposting r/communism 17year-old
>>28866045
>white kid just buys another laptop
it's not like he was suddenly going to find the drive to invest in anything worthwhile
he'll learn over years of betrayal and manipulation, not overnight
>>28867042
>too stupid to understand what materialism is
>recomends kapital
I'm not saying you didn't read kapital, but I do find it extremely unlikely. Learn what marx's inspiration was. He's all about that dank Hegelian materialism yo.
>>28867094
>uses names and words he read on wikipedia
>I'm not saying you didn't read kapital, but I do find it extremely unlikely. Learn what marx's inspiration was
Yup confirmed wiki fag. Read Kapital and then Anti-Duhring. Or finish 10th grade
>>28866690
le no true scotsman face
>>28867140
>I am such a zealot in my beliefs that I skimmed through socialist literature just to find out of context parts that seemed to prove me right.
Shows those evil dumb commies!
>>28867148
leftists are those who seek to abolish private property. Private property is not personal property like your phone and shit. Private property is industries and shit. Socialists want workers to control industries so that there will be no owner of said industry taking the surplus value of the workers. If the workers do not control the industries then it is not socialism. The state controlling industries is not socialism.
>>28867216
>I am a wikifag who didn't read the book so I can't proove him wrong but if I disagree often enough I can pretend he's wrong
Noice. Read Kapital and then Anti-Duhring. Or finish 10th grade
>>28867267
>im just going to keep insisting that reading socialist literature will cause someone to not be a socialist!
>>28867065
This. I saw this shit a million times by dumb stoners and ravers who grew up in the white suburbs and tried to befriend niggers here in the city.
>>28866045
>things that didn't happen
>posts that are original
>>28867264
>If the workers do not control the industries then it is not socialism. The state controlling industries is not socialism.
>>28867283
I didn't say that you fag. I said you have literally zero idea what you are talking about
thanks for posting. i have seen the light and am now a #cruzmissile
>>28866359
this
/pol/ does this shit all the time
>>28867353
But you know how correct they must be, because the people are the most right also have to lie the most. It all makes perfect sense.
>>28867308
>I am a sectarian asshat to the point that I seem like a stormfag (probably am desu), and I think any socialist stance that is not my retarded misconception of socialism is illiterate and from a 17 year old!
>>28867407
hoo
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>>28867264
>Private property is not personal property like your phone and shit
>The state controlling industries is not socialism.
The fuck u been smoking niggaI want a hit
>>28866444
>people are racist ironically
>12 y/o takes it seriously
>not far right=sjw
go back to pol my guy ;)
>>28867448
This is basic Marxism you retard.
>tfw centrist
>tfw you're a quickly dying breed thanks to everything becoming so rapidly polarized
Compromise is an essential part of good governance, you myopic shitheads.
>>28867503
obviously you have never read das kapital or Anti-Duhring, the only two lefty books I know, I am not /pol/ I swear btw genuine marxist you are wrong you faggot that's not socialism socialism is when wlefare state like sweden XDD
>>28867539
fantastic post m8ee
>>28867525
>compromise with the exploiting capitalist class
>>28867592
Just like I said.
Myopic. Shitheads.
>>28867525
Centrist is a codeword for radically pro-establishment
>>28867525
Compromise is the same as a battlefield truce. A temporary solution and delaying of the inevitable.
>>28867642
>muh establishment
Most people who use the term 'the establishment' consistently probably have retarded ideas that can be safely ignored.
>>28867525
The problem is compromise serves only to stagnate any real change.
>>28867671
>there isn't a bunch of nationalist propaganda promoting the current state of affairs
okay.
>>28867525
I used to be a centrist, I do still hold some centrist values. Then everyone started acting like their stereotype and chimping out, I started to lean more right and authoritarian over time. Now from the middle of the political compass 2 years ago, I am comfy in the blue.
>Who here turning right wing?
>>28867701
>Who here turning normie
fuck off traitor.
>>28867740
When has right wing been the normie thing?
>>28867776
Always. Being a muh feels conformist authoritarian asshat has always been the popular narrative.
>>28867642
Stop going on Infowars; it's rotting your brains.
>>28867656
>>28867691
>compromise isn't a solution
It's the ONLY solution. If you really believe that one day your side will 'win' and either persuade, kill, imprison, or disenfranchise everyone who disagrees, then I've got a fucking bridge to sell you.
>>28867701
>authoritarian
To me, authoritarianism connotes subservience. Respecting the authority solely because they are the authority. Piss on that. Respect needs to be both earned and maintained. The more power someone has, the more they ought to be heavily scrutinized and unfailingly held accountable.
The 'move to the right' thing has generally been a reaction to people acting like goddamn morons. Well, guess what, every side has morons. Even yours. Crushing the immigrants (or shitskins, or whatever Other you prefer) under your mighty iron-shod heel just creates more problems than it solves in the long term.
It isn't Us vs. Them, goddammit. It's Us vs. Us, and if we fight to the finish, we'll just wind up killing ourselves.
>>28867353
>posts an old screenshot from a different website
kys
>>28867924
okay but if you understood that your surplus value was being taken you probably wouldn't be a centrist.
>>28867809
Right wing has only been the popular narrative ages ago, also a libertarian system would not work in a long run. Most successful systems have been under authoritarian rule, basic legal legislation are needed for businesses.
>>28867809
>authoritarian
>conformist
>popular
sounds like sjws desu.
>>28867957
Sjws are right wing. Leftwing is workers controlling the industries. Also, the material conditions for a decntralized form of government havn't been around very often in the past. For it to work the majority of people would have to be well educated and the means of production would have to belong to the proletariat.
>>28867809
Everybody likes to think they're opposed to popular narrative/establishment/whatever.
/pol/ types act like we're in some sort of turbo-Stalinist ultra-left dictatorship and lefties think we live in Nazi Germany.
>>28867924
>Even yours. Crushing the immigrants (or shitskins, or whatever Other you prefer) under your mighty iron-shod heel just creates more problems than it solves in the long term.
All I want is a Australian point based like system with better restrictions for immigration. Also this "kill all shitskins" even though I say it, it is satire.
>>28868007
>Sjws are right wing
alot of them are self proclaimed communists. what are you talking about?
>>28867776
Not even racist but this made me laugh.
>>28868025
you know who else was a self proclaimed communist? The militarist totalitarian stat-capitalist dictator Joseph Stalin.
Sjws are idiots, they look at stalinism and buy into cold war propaganda, thinking stalinism is communism. They have no idea what communism is about: workers.
>>28866045
I don't know what's real and what's a joke anymore
>>28868063
>le communism has never been tried
kys my man
>>28867148
this is a redditcore reply desu
>>28868063
>communism is about: workers
I don't think mass-famine is very worker friendly.
>>28868110
Have workers ever controlled the industries?
Has private property ever been totally abolished?
Have classes been eliminated?
Can everyone live in comfort, working only as they need to?
>>28867950
>surplus value
Motherfucker, Marxism does. Not. Work. It's awesome on paper, but completely unsustainable because it depends on a miraculous sudden reversal of basic fucking human nature.
>>28868145
>communism is militarist dictatorships
excellent meme.
>>28868172
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>>28866690
Sorry, but what an incredibly stupid thing to say.
>>28868172
Never mentioned anything about militarist dictatorships. But I don't think 10 million dead slavs are a meme.
>>28868164
origami origami, let me post you robot commie
>>28868022
See, this is actually a reasonable position. Like pretty much everything else about the American government, the immigration system needs to be just fucking demolished and rebuilt from scrap.
However, I'd argue that it needs to be a bit easier to immigrate, at least in some ways. The reason we get so many illegals is because the system is so costly and Byzantine that a lot of desirables just go "fuck it" and go the other way instead. The vast majority of these people work and would generate tax revenue. Which grows the economy.
Oh, and inb4 B-b-but Muh Culture. America is the goddamn Borg. We will take your cultural distinctiveness and add it to our own. Resistance is futile - just ask the Indians.
>>28867740
>right-wing
>normie
Ha, no. Normies are bleeding-heart Bernie-loving faggots who make retweet le epic roasts of Trump. Get out of the house more often.
Nice try, though.
>>28868304
>normies are a relatively small group of people, most of whom are female college students
neat.
>>28867809
>Being a muh feels conformist authoritarian asshat has always been the popular narrative.
This is the exact opposite of being right wing.
>>28868254
But that picture is actually correct. Taken as a whole, humans tend to be violent, greedy little trolls.
>>28868341
>le right wing equals free markets and free speech
Go away.
>>28868295
Thanks man, also I don't live in the US so I know fuck all about the current migration system sadly. But you are right about the mess of different cultures in the US. The problem, they do help the economy through cheap labour, they up housing prices and lower standard of living, you can't win.
>>28868304
>Get out of the house more often
But that would make him a normie.
>>28868352
>all humans tend to be the last century of america
you're right. I can't believe I didn't see it before. :)
>>28866045
All it's missing is the little equality (or whatever the yellow equal sign over the purple background is) and this kid would have the whole package. I feel bad for his parents
>>28867525
>all these faggots disagreeing with you because they're massive polarized morons
its okay anon, we can come to a good middle ground on things. Goverment isn't like a war, and you know its working if noone is getting 100% of what they want.
>>28868361
The right wing loves freedom and self expression, that's why we worship the flag, god, and money, and crush anyone that stands in the way of us licking the boots of those who are one with our god: moneyflag-man, the holy son of the god emperor hitler-trump.
>>28868361
Did I ever say that you god damned spergmonkey?
To be right wing is to not be a mental child; to accept authority and in doing so put those who are worthy in power. It means to always strive for truth and NOT let petty emotional rhetoric sway the people and to stomp out those who spread lies and cherish ugliness and hoist up those who spread truth and value beauty. It means to acknowledge there are objective right and wrongs and faggots who feign intellectualism by claiming to be in some centrist gray area are a cancer.
>>28868364
>They do help the economy through cheap labour
It isn't even just that, though. A lot of these people are very skilled, but just can't hack it through that Sisyphean nightmare of a system. Letting in more of them would balance out the cheap-labour problem, at least to a degree, when coupled with the fact that a lot of that cheap labour comes from illegals too afraid to raise a stink about being paid less than minimum wage.
Also, consider the fact that illegals paid $11.8 billion in taxes in 2014.
>>28868460
cringe af dude, stop posting
>>28868471
"strive for truth and NOT let petty emotional rhetoric sway the people"
so the right wing is not right wing?
>>28867924
>It isn't Us vs. Them, goddammit. It's Us vs. Us, and if we fight to the finish, we'll just wind up killing ourselves.
that's actually very well put anon.
>>28868404
History is a series of greedy fucks stepping on the rest
>>28868500
>you're wrong because my definition of the term is not the conventional one
>>28868007
>>28868063
>>28868154
The mental gymnastics of justifying communism, ladies and gentlemen.
Have workers ever controlled the industries? Yes, because controlling industry is a form of work. It's just that the ones at the helm are smarter than you and the *hard laborers* you romanticize. Don't hate the fat-cats because they work smart, not hard.
Any sane person wouldn't want to share their property with a morons like you.
Classes will never be eliminated. Your rhetoric will only cause more bloodshed as you try to shake the natural order of things.
>Can everyone live in comfort, working only as they need to?
Eureka, here's what your ranting boils down to: a slingshot utopian vision, built on social determinism, through which you can gloriously reveal your virtue in its bright and shining colors. Fuck you. There is more to society than brute necessity and the bare minimum. People who are better want it better. That's why smart poor people say "fuck this shit, I'm gonna do whatever it takes to stack money". You are delusional to think that everybody would agree to work hard so lazy people can work whenever they need to (read: whenever they *want* to).
>>28868404
>the last century of america
Someone didn't pay attention in world history class.
>>28868420
>Government isn't like war, and you know it's working if no-one is getting 100% of what they want
Mah. Nigga.
Government is not a war, nor a business. It's a system to keep us from devolving into goddamn Mad Max.
>>28868504
There is no us and them. But, them, they do not think the same.
>>28866995
Thanks Hulk Hogan
>>28868565
Correct, the government's job is to protect the rights of the people.
>>28867525
Same here my man.
America is becoming so polarized its ridiculous, we will hit a breaking point and the majority will lose its polarity
