Who real /hikkikomori/ here?
Do you live alone or with family? How long have you been a hikki? Is it comfy enough?
Haven't left my house in a year, live with my parents. They're fucking annoying me every single day.
>>28842488
How old are you, why are you hikki?
hikki neet since January
I dropped out of school even though I only had like 8 classes to finish up. I didn't tell my parents though, they think I graduated.
It's been comfortable but now my parents are on my ass to start working. But if I start working they're going to know I didn't finish school since I'm probably only going to be able to find some shitty retail job.
So recently I've been filled with anxiety.
>>28842594
How long have you been hikki?
>>28842640
Also, why aren't you doing anything about the anxiety?
>>28842426
Thisis the comfiest lifestyle ever, I imagine.
>>28842925
I knew you would agree.
Bump. Nobody hikki here? That's surprising.
Been hiki since I left school in 2010, i mostly just fart around in my room and use the internet. I occasionally go out in the garden if the weather is nice.
>you must be depressed
Actually no, I feel a great sense of joy living the easy life and don't have any desire for anything else.
The NEET may be comfy, but the HIKKI is the king of comfy.
>>28843739
What do your parents say? Do you have money to buy stuff, or just what your parents give you?
>>28843855
>What do your parents say?
At first they were pestering me to move on and get a job but stopped after a few years.
>Do you have money to buy stuff, or just what your parents give you?
I get autismbux and don't spend much which means I end up having plenty in the savings account, I do occasionally contribute towards the house upkeep (repairs and maintenance).
>>28842426
I live with my parents
I'm 28 and I have been a hikki since 2010, the date I left school
I get $450/month from the state for being 25+ with no job. It's enough to pay for my cellphone, buy a few books, games, clothes
My parents don't pressure me because they know that I'm highly sensitive and anxious since I have been a child. As long as I don't hang in bed all day and that I'm smiling they are happy
It's comfy to be able to do whatever you want to do
>>28843986
How's your social life? Anything you'd want to change about your life?
>>28844083
So what do you do? And why are you anxious and sensitive?
>>28844160
>So what do you do?
I mostly browse internet during the day, in the evening I'll usually play video games or watch some movie, or chill on my bed
>why are you anxious and sensitive?
I think it's genetic (like having a sensitive skin) and maybe I was overprotected as a child
>>28844126
>How's your social life?
Its pretty much non existent, an old school friend occasionally drops by and we hang out in my room talking about old times but even he's started to move on, which I fully understand. I don't crave social interaction like most people do, I honestly prefer being alone.
>Anything you'd want to change about your life?
I don't really like change as it causes me immense stress, but I would like a bigger bedroom.
>tfw parents made me into a hiki
Not sure if I even have the willpower to break the chain.
I have a job, but outside of work I don't hang out with people a lot, my friends are weed smoking losers
>>28844256
Do you do the same routine everyday? What stuff do you browse? Do you do other things while browsing?
>>28844280
How can you say you don't crave social interaction if you sit here on 4chan? I mean, it's not face to face, but it's still social interaction.
>>28844430
I'm here for the porn mostly and hearing about others who are also adult virgins.
>>28844324
That's not hiki. Hiki is not the same thing as NEET. Not all NEETs are hiki, but most hiki are NEET. Not sure if you can work from home and still be hiki.
A hikikomori is someone who literally does not leave the house or have any face to face contact with anyone outside the house, for prolonged periods (months, years, forever). Hiki's usually don't even go to the doctor or dentist for years
So if you live by yourself and need to go outside to buy groceries, you're not hikki. If you have a single real-life friend who you still occasionally meet up with, you're not hiki.
>>28842571
19, no money for college and working is for cucks.
>>28844392
I have the same routine everyday, it can get pretty boring sometime. The routine can evolve when I change my habits. Right now my goal is to fix my mental health issues and find a job
I mostly browse 4chan, look for stuff to download, read programming related stuff
>>28844311
What did your parents do to bring you to hikki state?
>>28844458
The "hearing about others who are also virgins" is where you crave social interaction. You feel like you're in a group with others like you.
>>28844502
I still prefer talking to disposable strangers over the internet than meeting someone IRL.
>>28844464
What do your parents do to annoy you? Do you feel guilty about it?
>>28844467
>Right now my goal is to fix my mental health issues and find a job
Be honest now, how long have you had that "goal" for?
>>28844625
Maybe one or two year, before that I wanted to work independently from home
>>28844539
Yeah, talking means social interaction. If you didn't crave it, you would only be doing things that are centered around yourself. The human mind is made to be social.
>>28844563
They constantly bother me about finding a job, about how I can't stay up all-night, about how I should find friends in real life instead of talking to my online friends, about how I should go drive somewhere so I don't forget how to drive and waste all of the money put into my driver's license, etc.
I know they're just trying to help me, but let me live my life. I already do my chores without you guys even asking for it, so at least let me do whatever the fuck else I want with my life.
>>28844654
And what makes you think you won't drag it on 2 more years from now? Or indefinitely?
>>28844680
Well no, I only really use the internet to pursue my hobbies. The /r9k/ side of things is purely centered around virginity, I can go months without participating in any sort of social platform.
>>28844744
getting older
my parents moving in another region for their retirement
>>28844715
I never even learn't to drive.
>>28844788
learnt*
Speaking of spelling I've lost my ability to write using a pen and paper as my motor skills have deteriorated so much over the past few years.
>>28844715
How long do you think they'll bother you for? What if they snap and kick you out?
>>28844809
>I've lost my ability to write using a pen and paper
Really? How many years have been since you last wrote something?
>>28844821
They won't snap and kick me out because they're very overprotective parents. If they do, though, I wouldn't care less, my depression doesn't allow me to care more.
They'll probably bother me until they can gather enough money to force me through college (they don't want to waste their son's "genius" (their words) ), so maybe another year or two.
>>28844762
You're using the internet right fucking now for social interaction. You're in denial bro.
>>28844767
Those are external factors. You haven't told me the motivation you have inside, which makes me believe you're not really intending to do it. You might tell yourself you want to do it, but you likely won't bother.
>>28844883
maybe
i will most likely do it when it will be the only way to buy food
>>28844861
>>28844861
not that guy, but what the hell are you trying to prove to him
>>28844860
>I wouldn't care less
You're saying that now. But trust me, you will care once you're in the meat of it. You will care a fucking lot.
What will you guys do when you parents die? I think about this atleast one hour each day.
>>28842426
>Do you live alone or with family? How long have you been a hikki? Is it comfy enough?
Family, 7 years, it is physically comfy but it eats away at me almost every single day.
Do not believe the memes of those who say they enjoy this life, it maybe true for a special few who have the funds to spend on their hobbies and interests but for the rest of us it is a state brought upon us by untreated mental illness and a lack of understanding of how to deal with it from those around us.
>>28844844
Its less forgetting how to write and more that I don't move around much during the day, I also fall over and bump into things very easily.
My handwriting is very untidy, I was trying to fill in a doctors application form today but had to get my mum to do it as I kept making mistakes like not writing the correct letter or the pen moving out of the designated boxes (it required block capitals).
Also I can't draw some letters, they end up looking all mashed together and nothing like they should. I'm not sure if it's because of my hand tremors or something else but I just don't have great fine motor control.
>>28844960
I'll probably just become someone else's responsibility, either the state or a family members.
>>28844912
You can't say you don't need social interaction while you're socially interacting. You're not doing it out of nowhere, you're doing it because it's a need.
>>28842488
then get the fuck out!
I used to be like you.
if you want to be free from your parents bugging you then get a job that pays enough to get an apartment alone. its glorious man, you can do whatever you want as long as you keep your job and don't piss off your landlord. just go to work do your job and then come home and don't talk to anyone. fuck roomates.
if you're leeching off your parents they have every right to annoy you. I realize that now. they annoy you because they want you to get the fuck out. JUST DO IT
>>28845055
Its not though, I don't crave coming on here and certainly don't miss it when I don't.
I rarely ever make posts or interact with people, I'm more of an observer that comes here for some light entertainment.
alone in my apartment since april 1st. no friends. Looking for a job and interviews are really getting me down though. Everyday is getting darker and I keep failing the interviews shit I dont even enjoy video games and watching movies. All I think about is going out and having fun but I've never had hobbies outside during summer because I always stayed in playing video games so I dont fucking know what to beside I could really use a new wardrobe but I have zero fashion sense
>>28845064
>get a job that pays enough to get an apartment alone
That's it! Why haven't I thought of it before?
>>28845009
Maybe you have some neurological condition.
>>28844972
Why does it eat away at you if you say you're comfy?
>>28845103
It doesn't matter whether you think you crave it or not. Your brain pushes you to come here and observe social interaction. Even though you're not posting often, you're interacting vicariously by being an observer.
>>28845162
Probably, I have been diagnosed with aspergers syndrome in the past.
>>28845143
dude really? Im a fucking lazy piece of shit with a shit personality and horrible at talking to people in general. horrible resume and no degree. If I can do it so can you. the jobs are out there. you gotta look. you are not gonna get rich but if you find the right job and make a budget and stick to it a small apartment is within every robot's reach. you will not get a gf because of this but at least you can fap and hang out naked and do whatever with no parents or roommates to bitch at you
>>28845282
How does the aspergers treat you? I met autistic people before. Do you look away when talking to people?
>>28845182
Because I'm a useless sack of shit, my father actively lies about my life so that no one finds out I'm a loser, don't have any money to spend on anything and yet I say no when my parents offer to buy me most things, I want to love and be loved but that's impossible because of how uninteresting of a failure I am.
But when those things aren't bothering me, it's okay.
>>28845314
>How does the aspergers treat you?
School was hard but once I left its become a way to gain political leverage over competitors.
>Do you look away when talking to people?
Depends who I am talking to, but generally I feel compelled to look at peoples faces when they talk.
>>28845305
Yeah, of course you can. But...
>you can fap and hang out naked and do whatever
>whatever
No. You're gonna pay rent, food, and bills and you won't afford anything else. Basically working so you can keep working. What's the point? It seems extremely sad..
>>28845261
we get it, you're an autist
leave already
>>28845320
So why do you keep wallowing in guilt then? You hate those things about yourself, why not change it?
>>28845498
My post was quite literally the opposite of autism.
>>28845423
Lmao, political leverage? In what way?
>>28845305
Don't play the "whose had it worse" game and don't assume you know other people's situations.
>>28844083
I hope you understand your privilege.
After 18, I've never gone longer than a month without being employed, in school, or volunteering. I hate all of these things. Volunteering is the worst - work without pay.
My dad would simply kick me out otherwise. He's fine with me living at home, but I gotta be doing something. I pretended to volunteer once and just went to the library with my laptop to read the manga and watch anime I download at home overnight, he found me and beat the shit out of me that night. He started checking and corroborating my placements (when I was unemployed). I have 0 motivation and just want to be a comfy NEET
Literally the only thing I have going for me right now is that I work IT. I have learned to massively respect the chair. Manual labor, never again. Still wish I was NEET though.
>>28844960
Enjoy the money they will leave and live comfy
>>28845692
How did he found you at the library?
>>28845854
I still don't know. He uses it like 2 or 3 times a year. Maybe it was a coincidence, maybe he stole my phone and installed some tracking shit on it, maybe someone he knew saw me and told him. I personally almost never actually use the library but I did during that time, I had books lying around in my room along with the receipts, so maybe he figured it out from the dates, maybe the library called home with an overdue message. I actually thought about it a lot
>>28845523
I'm an idiot who has become so accustomed to this life that the thought of changing seems impossible.
It's hard to reenter society when you've been out of it for this long, especially with so little socialization, it'd take a miracle of will or for an outside force to hold my hand through that process.
>>28845457
better than being a burden on your parents.
what the fuck are you neets gonna do?
when your parents finally muster the courage to kick you out on the street? or failing that, they die? what will you do then?
you don't need friends or a gf or lots of money but if you can't provide for yourself basic necessities you might as well kill yourself.
>>28845968
Were you hanging there often and long enough? Couldn't you go somewhere else, at least farther away?
>>28843986
How do you get autismbux?
>>28845612
I don't give a FUCK what your situation is. make the best of it, or die. it's that simple. I don't care how fucked up you are, or how fucked up your situation is. if you have the mental faculties and physical ability to shitpost on /r9k/ you have the mental faculties to live on your own. if you're not disabled stop fucking making excuses for not providing fpr at least yourself. it's fucking pathetic.
>>28846059
Yeah I was there like 10-4 each weekday for 3 weeks while pretending I volunteered at the pool, food bank, and rec center
There's no other comfy quiet public area with wifi in my town. You have to keep buying shit at McD's or Starbucks or they kick you out.
>>28846048
Exchanging your life for basic necessities seems so pointless. It's almost suicide tier. Being dependent on your parents pales in comparison.
>>28846102
furthermore the NEET lifestyle is only possible due to modern technology. if we were still cavemen you would be FUCKING DEAD.
>>28846139
keep telling yourself that man. pathetic.
anyone else /workfromhome/ here? i order everything online (including food) and havent needed to leave my house for 5 months. I'm thinking of getting a slot installed in the door so I can take deliveries and sign receipts without interacting with the pizza guy.
I'm working on some projects that should guarantee my income if my present work arrangement falls through too. Can't be too careful, it would be very difficult if I had to go out and interview again after several years of this.
>>28845980
>It's hard to reenter society
You don't have to be a social butterfly from the start, you take small steps and conquer your fears. That's the only way you'll ever change. Nobody is going to come save you, ever. You'll be trampled by reality if you keep expecting miracles.
>>28846139
you don't even realize that whoever you are leeching off of to be a NEET is not only giving their life to support themselves, but also your useless ass. don't be surprised when they get sick of it and cut you off.
>>28846184
>You'll be trampled by reality if you keep expecting miracles.
There's people who did everything right, played by the book, went to church, managed their finances frugally, and still got trampled by reality.
There's no guarantee of success in the real world and trying to catch up when you're already years behind and at a massive disadvantage because of an introverted personality just gives others you interact with the satisfaction that they're not as bad as you.
A better way to win is to not play
>>28846114
I see. Why did you let your dad beat you up though? I don't care that you live at his house. That's seriously fucked up. Sure you need discipline, but that chimping out shit is unnacceptable. I love my dad but if he tried to attack me I would react in self defense.
>>28846244
it's either play or die
you don't have to play as much as other people
but if you don't play at all only death awaits
if you want death then fine you'll get it
>>28846102
>make the best of it, or die. it's that simple
And what's the point of saying this? Obviously you'll either sink or float. Depression and other shit makes it so you don't care about it, you don't care about yourself. That's the problem.
>>28846167
Who's the pathetic one really? I think you and me both. But your lifestyle I consider more pathetic and sad.
>>28846201
>leeching
Why do you assume that someone living with their parents is leeching by default? If your parents know you are troubled and they kick you out, that means they considered you a burden. If they let you stay until you get your shit together, they are fine with it. Especially if the problem is depression or laziness which can be fixed.
>>28846244
>years behind
There's no such thing unless you're expecting too much of yourself. You can always compare yourself to people, but you're living your own life. You have to take it bit by bit, it's the only possible way.
>>A better way to win is to not play
You don't win shit. You get to wallow in your mess and succumb slowly.
>>28842426
alone. feels good.. its like i dont exist to other people
>>28842426
I'm not a hikki, but a NEET who lives by himself on NEETbux. It's the best of both worlds, I get to do nothing, but also have nobody to answer to. The only downside is that I don't have that much money, but I'd rather die than be foreced to live with my parents again.
>>28845543
No it wasn't. You were badgering him relentlessly. Behavior not unlike that of a normalfag who just can't let things be.
>>28846760
Did you rent by yourself? What is your daily routine?
>>28846175
What do you do man?
>>28846752
For how long have you been alone? Is it really that good?
>>28846114
>>28846114
Have you ever been kicked out of a Starbucks before? I mean I usually just get the cheapest thing and they haven't bothered me. Though the max I've ever stayed is like 5 hours.
>>28845116
At least you can get job interviews. I had my first job interview in two years last week and was rejected within hours, and I'm a university graduate with at least some work experience,
>>28846904
Yes, there's nothing stopping me from full independence except that I'm too lazy to work. My daily routine is I get up, have breakfast, jog(most days), spend most of the day shitposting or playing vidya or reading books and generally wasting time, and then I work a little bit on writing my novel and learning japanese then go to bed.
>>28846820
>your post was autistic
>behavior not unlike that of a normalfag
>>28847061
Do you keep in touch with the parents anymore? Why do you talk about them so negatively?
>>28847182
I do keep in touch with them, probably not as much as they'd like. We don't have a bad relationship or anything, it's just that both of them both split up and then went on to remarry with complete and total idiots, neither of which I could really be comfortable around. I don't resent them for it, but I also just really dislike the idea of living with other people in general, I need a lot of privacy to feel comfortable. That's why I couldn't stand living with them.
>tfw INTP
>Stacy I was forced to work in group project with: "Oh wow Anon, you're so weird! You're just like that nerd guy from The Big Bang Theory! Lmao hahahaha!"
End my suffering.
>>28847048
I got asked to leave every 2 hours the two or three days I was there. That was my cue to buy their cheapest shit (like a $1.50 small black coffee) and take an hour to drink it. I cracked open a beer I brought from home once and they'd shoo-shooed me out pretty quickly. Another time I came in and sat down with McDonald's coffee and employees were giving me the evil eye but didn't say anything. I look like a gruff hobo though, hadn't shaved in 4 months, stained winter jacket and a tuque, was probably scaring customers away. Still, I took showers and stayed quiet. I noticed they didn't bother any of the pretty hipster girls who were there all day, not even once.
>>28847274
>look like a gruff hobo though
Hmm, those assholes. They let pretty girls stay there but wanted you out?.
>>28847247
Kek, what did you do to get this compliment?
Did you tell her that she's like Amy?
>>28847391
I know how this shit works man. It's all about the atmosphere. I'm surprised they didn't ask me to leave more frequently. I think some places put up those 15-minute seating limit signs and only enforce it against people they don't like.
>>28847499
I've never had it happen to me. I hanged out 7-8 hours in bars before. I am a big bear though, I look like John Cena. Maybe they don't have the guts to tell me to get out lmao.
>>28847629
Bars are completely different. They don't kick you out until closing time unless you're making an ass of yourself.
I went to a bar with friends after pre-drinking like 5 beers at my house and didn't even buy anything, stayed the whole night until they kicked everyone out at 3AM.It was shit and I fucking hate normies
>>28846080
seconded pls tell me
>>28842426
Was hikki on and off for about 2 years, was pretty fuckin miserable t b h.
>>28844744
what jobs can be worked independently from home
>>28842426
been a neet for 3 months. what the fuck do yall do to keep sane? i have been gaming, lifting, and watching anime but I am starting to get bored. what do?
