is it a meme or a reality?
what do you think?
>>28820173
I was with you until you used a painting made during the Renaissance as evidence.
>>28820173
meme ARE a reality my boy
>>28820210
what about dis?
>>28820173
We wuz aliens and sheiit
why do these niggas at the same line of lattitude build the exact same pyramids
fucking
WHY did it happen?
>>28820173
they were all built by ancient aliens so
meme, serious interstellar travel probably isn't possible even for ayyliums
>>28820246
Yeah that's pretty solid evidence actually, ancient aliens probably were real t b h
>>28820246
>jesus had a six pack as a baby
>>28820251
>muh ha'tak
>>28820306
It was considered taboo to depict Jesus as a regular baby, especially in pieces commissioned for the church, so he often looks like an old man/body builder instead. Lots of artists copied this form during the renaissance because it was easier than learning how to paint actual babies
>These images were found on the ceiling beams of the 3000 year old New Kingdom Temple -- specifically dedicated to the chief god of the Egyptian pantheon, Osiris. located several hundred miles south of Cairo and the Giza Plateau, at Abydos. As you can see, images of a helicopter, submarine, plane and hovercraft are depicted! Again this piece of ancient art seems to suggest that the Egyptians knew about the latest technology that we are using today.
>mfw I am an alien
>>28820394
Maybe that twilight zone episode with the time traveling airplane actually happened and it all disappeared back to egypt
>>28820424
Hey mann are you ancient, though???
gold incan jewelery 1,000+ years old shows an actual plane---complete with wings, horizontal
AND vertical stabilizers
they tried to explain it away as stylised birds, but why would a bird have a vertical tail?
>>28820173
Is this supposed to prove ancient human beings were more rectangular
>>28820173
I think it's plausible, and definitely something worth looking into, but there is never gonna be a serious investigation unless we find something fucking huge, like a piece of honest to goodness future technology. The best hope for something like that would probably be the Egyptians, but I'm not holding my breath.
I think Arthur C. Clarke said it best:
>Unfortunately, nonsensical books, fraudulent books by people I won't name, they've made it difficult for serious scientists and researchers to look into this.
>>28820480
yes,but not as ancient as your mum
>>28820491
that's it dik
>>28820491
more similar jewelry, it wasnt a one off thing. It was important enough to people to make images of it out of gold.
>>28820491
Because anon, it's old and so its weird ya dummy!
these nutjobs who believe this shit, sheesh.
>>28820526
>>28820491
those are moths and other flying insects you retards
>>28820526
"6 wooden gliders were found in one of the Pyramids at Saqqara. Although 5 of them have been destroyed, one does exist in the Late Dynastic Room at the Egyptian museum in Cairo amongst the wooden bird collection. Some readers believe that this could be a bird, but birds do not have tails that fan sideways."
the 1st model airplane in this shape didnt exist until the 1870s.
What is this?
>>28820173
that is 100% coincidence. pyramids are litteraly just stacking a smaller amount of rocks ontop of a bigger amount of rocks, they are the easiest structure in the world to fucking make. Seriously you can do the exact same thing with house hold objects
>>28820491
>>28820526
It was a fish for fuck sake...
>>28820611
>moths have a tail fin
>>28820173
>somefaggotwithfunnyhairinhistorychannel.jpg
turns out there's only so many ways to stack fuck heavy blocks and not have them fall over.
that's literally all it is.
>>28820625
This one is weird because fishes like that didn't exist in Egypt.
I imagined it's been dated since it's a wooden object, how old is it then?
>>28820643
>Aliens did it
>>28820173
I do believe that aliens exist, but they never visited us
They might even be lower tech/evolution than us
>>28820173
What if I told you the most effective way to build things tall is to make them in a cone shape?
>>28820671
"The so called "Saqqara Bird" is an artifact made of sycamore wood, discovered during the 1898 excavation of the Pa-di-Imen tomb in Saqqara, Egypt. It has been dated to approximately 200 BCE"
>>28820641
fishes dont have horizontal tail fins. And these lack the belly fin found in fishes.
>>28820641
That's what I was thinking
Is the origin of that jewelry known? It's possible a traveler could have seen one of these
>>28820730
Why is it either fish, bird, or aliens did it? Couldn't the guy who made just have made something up?
>>28820781
but why exactly that form? a bit weird isnt it?
>>28820820
The oldest one is in Sardinia, dated from 3600 bc.
3 tiered, with a stairway, with another mirror structure on top with a single door---an ocean apart
>>28820820
Maybe it's a bit weird, but Occam's Razor suggests that this was likely a coincidence. I jewelry maker might have just been thinking of a fish or a bird, and made what he had in his mind as the image of a fish or a bird, and it just happened to have a pretty similar form to an airplane
>>28820173
most of their theories were debunked.
>ancientaliensdebunked.com/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9w-i5oZqaQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oGqPc6poS4
here's a more legit book
>Graham Hancock - Fingerprints of the Gods
megpugh.com/files/Graham_Hancock_FINGERPRINTS_OF_THE_GODS.pdf
>Garcilaso also reported something else interesting. In his Royal Commentaries of the Incas he gave an account of how, in historical times, an Inca king had tried to emulate the achievements of his predecessors who had built Sacsayhuaman. The attempt had involved bringing just one immense boulder from several miles away to add to the existing fortifications: This boulder was hauled across the mountain by more than 20,000 Indians, going up and down very steep hills ... At a certain spot, it fell from their hands over a precipice crushing more than 3000 men.
>>28820871
The pyramid is one of the most basic shapes in nature, toddlers can go without seeing a real pyramid and still stack their blocks that way. And these civilizations weren't full of idiots, they could clearly see that a pyramid was their best bet on building something tall that wouldn't topple over
>A "house altar" (c. 1350 BC) depicting Akhenaten, Nefertiti and three of their daughters.
these arent their daughters. Look how dissimilar and weird their skulls look like compared to the actual humans. And the strange proportions, with "cosmic rays" shining upon them
If it weren't for u white folk we would still be kings. The neburion rulers were the smarter than all others and just want peace and technology advancements. But u damn white folk always be putting down true black kings cuz of yo racism baka
>>28820934
this, and it involved a lot of trial and error
>>28820934
>This
Might aswell say that aliens visited us because they had spears and bows in the americas just like europe and asia had hundreds of years earlier.
>>28820625
>>28820526
>>28820394
>ancient aliens travel thousands of lightyears to visit earth
>fly around in helicopters and fucking biplanes
>>28820964
>Look how dissimilar and weird their skulls look like compared to the actual humans
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_cranial_deformation
>>28820964
Or just maybe they sufferd from defects due to incest which was common as fuck amongst royalites back in the days. But nah it was clearly aliens.
>>28820964
Newborn babies often have oblong heads
>>28821034
kek
>>28821041
why would you deform your child's skulls while not having the same tradition for yourself?
and correct me if im wrong but i dont think the egyptians practiced that
>>28821034
what if it was time travellers? or dimensional wormholes?
>planes disappear in bermuda triangle storm
>emerge 2000 years earlier in south america
Ancient aliens is an easy way to discredit the accomplishments of ancient civilizations because apparently people think we can't put rocks together without the assistance of space aliens.
>>28821103
Time travel seems more far fetched than aliens t b h fampai.
>>28820251
>This is what Scientologists actually believe.
>>28820259
Because that's where it's warmest, around the equator, so that's where lots of people lived.
>>28820173
>>28820394
How do autists(or atheists) explain THAT?
>>28821103
>why would you deform your child's skulls while not having the same tradition for yourself?
I think they have it too it's just that the hat makes it hard to tell. The angle is off but that might just be inconsistency of the artist.
>and correct me if im wrong but i dont think the egyptians practiced that
They did:
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/733699_2
Stupid robot won't let me copypaste.
>>28821202
well things like a round earth, quasars and blackholes would be far fetched to an educated person 2000 years ago
>>28821266
God did it senpai
>>28820173
i think ancient people were just smart enough to realize a triangle is the most structurally sound basic shape, so they built their most impressive buildings as triangles, which is why they didnt fall down like the rest of their mud huts
>>28821266
We don't. Burden of proof lies on the person making the claim, so it's up to you to provide a more reasonable explanation than
>It's altered/unauthenticat in some way
Or
>It coincidentally looks like those things, in the same way clouds do when you use your imagination
Provide a more reasonable explanation than that, and make good use of Occam's razor
>be time traveler
>be smart enough to engineer a god damn helicopter from scratch in the middle of northeast africa
>create tools and put systems in place to mine all necessary ore, smelting facilities, machine operations such as lathes, produce all electronic equipment, extract crude oil with homemade oil rigs, create processing facilities to turn oil into usable fuel
>have a hoot buzzing over ancient egyptians head in my homemade helicopter
>destroy all evidence
>tfw i forgot to destroy a piece of jewelry and some etchings
What about that bible story that describes God moving around in a device of some kind. Why would the creator of the universe need a vehicle to get from Point A to Point B?
>>28821371
OP's pic is the proof, now bring your proofs. Oh they don't exists.
>mfw felt like there were aliens in my room
>mfw ask the aliens who were reading my mind to help my grandma
>mfw my grandma's leg is not swollen anymore and she feels a lot better
also i think they inserted something in my hand and anus.
>>28820526
a tad bit more recently, they have found artifacts similar to these off the coast of Ukraine
>>28821583
Atlanteans
>>28820491
Yes, whatever could they possibly be depicting here?
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![463569_0ba9e52257e7e3cc3e512989d848aed4[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ii94dKh.jpg "463569_0ba9e52257e7e3cc3e512989d848aed4[1].jpg")
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>>28820491
Truly a great mystery that can only be explained by exposure to some sort of modern aircraft.
>>28821555
Ancient aliens came down and bestowed upon the people, "make a lil door then a bigger door and another lil door lol".
And so it was done.
>>28820526
It's crazy how they appear nothing like other Pre-Columbian art depicting fish and sharks! They're obviously airplanes!
>>28821744
>>28821639
wheres the tail fin?
In the Bible, a case of teleportation can be found in Acts of the Apostles (8:38-40). The apostle Philip rode on the chariot of a eunuch. When they came upon a small body of water, the eunuch asked Philip to baptize him. Philip disappeared afterward and found himself in another place where he preached the good news.
Here's the Biblical account:
"He commanded the chariot to stop, and both of them, Philip and the eunuch, went down into the water, and Philip baptized him. When they came up out of the water, the spirit of the Lord snatched Philip away; the eunuch saw him no more, and went his way rejoicing. But Philip found himself at Azotus, and as he was passing through the region, he proclaimed the good news to all the towns until he came to Caesaria."
Second case
Another example of teleportation in the Bible can be found in John (6:16-21). Jesus and his disciples were out at sea, three to five miles from the shore. When Jesus stepped into the boat, they found themselves immediately at the shore. Here's the King James Bible's description of the incident:
"And when even was now come, his disciples went down unto the sea, and entered into a ship, and went over the sea toward Capernaum. And it was now dark, and Jesus was not come to them. And the sea arose by reason of a great wind that blew. So when they had rowed about five and 20 or 30 furlongs, they saw Jesus walking on the sea, and drawing nigh unto the ship: and they were afraid. But He saith unto them, It is I; be not afraid. Then they willingly received Him into the ship: and immediately the ship was at the land whither they went."
>>28820259
>>28821238
And the pyramid is the easiest shape to build at a size that large. Honestly if these things show anything it's that humans tend to do the same shit as other humans.
>>28821266
Is it maybe possible that modern forms of travel (helicopters, submarines, etc) were designed based on these ancient depictions? Like a self-fulfilling prophecy kind of thing.
Unless these images were found way later after those inventions.
>>28821555
Lol, that's proof? You'd have a hard time in academia.
>>28821861
On their tails, you dolt.
>>28821867
do you think one day people will think Lotr actually happened? Protip: the bible is ancient fantasy literature.
>>28820173
>three doors in a basic pattern
>proof of aliens
>>28820246
>literally a painting
Woah man guys, guess Zeus must be real too
>>28821282
Unless it's a tethered wormhole through time, I don't see time travel m8. The problem with physical time travel is that the Earth moves so much so quickly that if you did go back, even a few minutes, you'd end up either in the center of the Earth or deep space.
The way to remedy this is, of course, teleportation. Or in other words, Wormholes.
The most plausible way to time travel I've seen was in Stephen Baxter's Xeelee Sequence series of books. Essentially, you create a tethered wormhole with one end in the Solar System and the other end on a ship capable of significant-fraction-lightspeed. Then, by traveling at relativistic speeds,some significant fraction of C, I don't recall right nowyou can quickly get to 'The future.' Then you jump through the wormhole and you're back in the past.In the books, this was used to disastrous effect by an invading species to enslave a weaker human race before they had time to develop modern weapons
The real problem is that what you need for this to work is a start point. It's like in Primer, you can only go back as far as you've known about time travel.
This is the crux of it. How is there a wormhole to 2000 years in the past connected to modern times? This isn't something that could occur in nature because it requires relativistic speeds, which you can't achieve for a region as large as the BT on the surface of a planet without the rest of the planet.
Obviously you could say, 'Well, aliens abducted them THEN sent them back in time with their Wormhole machine.' But then we're back to aliens, so the point is moot anyway.
A more reasonable explanation would be that Airplanes, Helicopters, and the like are simply the most efficient way to move around in atmosphere. Anti gravity or whatever seems pretty far fetched, and rockets aren't efficient in the slightest for in-atmosphere flight.
That is, if you assume this isn't a coincidence, which in all likelihood it is.
just happened to be three door ways.
call me crazy but i think there are aliens. maybe people like us with food, walk. i think just not with the things you see in movies.
>>28820173
Assuming that these patterns are from the same source, aliens are not the simplest explanation. The simplest explanation is a single overculture that split apart and spread around the world, preserving customs.
>>28820820
>have no cement or steel
>build towers by stacking blocks
Exactly how else could a structure have been made besides in a pyramid structure with no cement and just fucking stone laying on top of stone? Do you remember how stable your fucking blocks were as a kid?
>>28820246
>what about dis
You mean the element of fiction in a drawing? Yes definitely proof for aliens. Harry potter must clearly have been written by an alien as well, since that's much more likely than someone making up a school of wizards.
>>28820394
>seems to suggest that the Egyptians knew about the latest technology
Thank god there's no other explanation, and how convenient that it's depicting transportation that we use today rather than 1000-10000 years from now, hmmmm
>>28820173
Real. 14 billion years for an advanced civ to develop and settle the galaxy. Why would humans be the first? FTL is only a limitation to humans who can't into the physics needed yet.
>>28822016
>go back in time
>2000bc
>look around at the people
>sneeze
>oh fuck.jpg
>2 days later humanity's doomed from a super advanced common cold
seriously though the only way I could perceive time travel is if it costs exponentially as much power as the number of seconds you want to travel, so there would be asymptotic limit to how far you can go.
Primer's a great example of why time travel is ultimately doomed since(spoilers) the movie starts with them already in a second, altered timeline and things just get more fucked from there.
>>28820526
>be Egyptian
>can't even draw humans for shit
>have great difficulty drawing basic animals
>make alien plane out of gold
>better give it those weird tail fins so people don't think they're fish
>ends up giving them animal heads though
>>28821103
>planes disappear in bermuda triangle storm
except Bermuda has been debunked 1000 times
>>28823158
>seriously though the only way I could perceive time travel is if it costs exponentially as much power as the number of seconds you want to travel, so there would be asymptotic limit to how far you can go.
That seems pretty arbitrary, got a line of reasoning for that?
Not to be rude, just curious.
For me, I just think of time as another spatial dimension. That's why Baxter's method is the most plausible I've seen: It treats time like any other spatial dimension that one can travel through, even if it requires a lot of work, rather than something like Steins;Gate or Primer where it's just, 'put in regular 'ole electricity and it works.'
