>did 5 months of nofap/noporn without anything changing
>tried cutting off my internet connection for a few weeks
>stopped playing vidya too
>ended up lying in bed all day
>still feel like shit
What now? Did I fall for the wrong memes again? Isn't this shit supposed to make you better somehow?
>>28782277
The equivalent of trying to lose weight and all you did was read fitness books.
>>28782277
I admire your willpower anon. No internet for weeks and nofap for months are definitely feats of mental strength. Especially when you have no alternatives.
At the very least you should pat yourself on the back for doing this, cause I doubt many people would have been able to.
>>28782277
You have to substitute the porn/internet/vidya time with actual productive activities.
I was thinking about trying to go a long time without porn/internet/vidya.
Those are poison for me, since I use them as escapism.
I wonder if it's worth trying...
>>28782277
No fap is pointless go bust a nut and feel better anon
>>28782454
where do you live.
originallizo
>>28782502
Southern IL. I need to just focus on real life and get a better job so I can move out of my Grandma's attic.
FUCK.
What about you, anon?
>>28782536
I don't care about you, I'm just trying to find a person that I know, since I forgot their profile name.
He had that pic in one of his folders.
>>28782441
>just do stuff bruh
>>28782622
Fuck you, rude little shit.
>>28782646
>just do nothing and life will magically get better bruh
>>28782277
if cutting the porn out is not improving your life, and your life with porn is bad, then just cut your balls off
If you don't want to go that extreme, then just stab your testicles with skewers until your balls partially fill up with scar tissue.
>>28782868
That's not even what I said. OP has clearly tried something. You can't deny that.
Abstaining from these "addictions" is supposed to give you enough energy to pursue more healthy activities, but it clearly didn't help.
People are not productive, if they feel like shit.
>>28782277
>did 5 months of nofap/noporn without anything changing
I'm on NoFap Day #4372 and counting. Haven't noticed any positive change yet, too. Will report back.
>>28783165
You're just doing it wrong. You're probably just substituting your addiction with another. You are not a real human until you stop all these detrimental addictions.
From now on you will do:
>nofap
>nomusic
>notv
>novidya
>nobook
>nopoop
>nofood
>nobreathe
>noswallow
>noblink
>nothink
>nosleep
ASCEND!
>>28783165
literally why anon-senpai desu?
>>28783264
Thank you ISIS
>>28783131
>Abstaining from these "addictions" is supposed to give you enough energy to pursue more healthy activities
citation needed and no anecdotes from 4chan will not suffice. Maybe what you mean is abstaining from these activities will give your more time, not energy, to engage in other activities and if OP spent that extra time lying on his bed ofc nothing will change.
Wanting to go left but turning right is also "doing something" but its not going to get you where you need to go.
>>28783264
Ascend, ascend, ascend. Join me.
>>28782277
How bad was your fapping addiction before you quit. If you sense no changes its either because you were never that severely addicted to it, or have a shitty lifestyl;e where you consume mostly pizza, fried chicken and soda while mostly sitting on your ass and rarely going outside- or other physical/mental health issues that make you always feel like shit.
Depending on the severity of your porn/fap addiction, it could take up to or at least a whole year before your brain resets.
Cutting out porn is great, so well done. However cutting out fapping is stupid and completely goes against what you're trying to achieve. First of all, not masturbating can actually be harmful to your balls since sperm buildup over lengthy periods (like a month or more) over and over can leave you at high risk of ball cancer.
Secondly, masturbation is perfectly normal but the way you are doing it needs to be taken into account. The most common way porn addicted men do it (or just men in general) is using what's called the "death grip", ie gripping your cock really fucking which doesn't simulate a vagina at all. Also they're typically sitting in a chair or on a couch, and infront of a tv or computer screen.
You need to change your fap habits. This also goes hand in hand with your lifestyle since active, successful men have little time for masturbation because they are busy be it with work, study, social life etc. Try to masturbate only once ever 2-3 days. Do something different from how you would usually fap like if you're a chair and computer guy, try lying down on your bed. Cut out all visual and aural stimulus by closing your eyes and just lying there, simulating a woman riding you when having sex. Use plenty of lube and just stroke your cock from the head down to the shaft without using the deathgrip. This simulates real sex more and should help you actually desire a real woman more. When you feel like you're about to cum, just do it and don't edge it out.
I had to do all the above for a solid 14 months since I've been addicted to porn from the age of like 15 and even though I've had many girlfriends, I've only ever been able to get it up for 1 since she stuck around long enough to try and help out.
>>28783760
>Cutting out porn is great
No, it makes you a cuck.
>>28783760
Uh oh... not this guy again...
Fapping, pornography, internet addiction in general and living in fantasy are all correlated addictions. Telling someone to keep fapping but quit porn is retarded. As someone with a verifiable severe fapping addiction which caused much physical pain and bodily injury, I can tell you that relapsing into porn after abstaining from it always happens because of fapping. Heres how it usually started: Start fantasizing, start touching my cock, then go look at porn and edge and/or rub one out.
Excessive fapping is far worse than any supposed benefits you get from normal fapping, and your body will reabsorb excess semen and or flush out semen while sleeping, which (unless you are sleep fapping) is much different than jacking off.
>sex
>gf
Fucking normie ree.
Simply put I daresay people will fail at nofap if they do it to get sex, because you are still anxiously anticipating sexual release instead of being rid of the addiction and compulsion altogether, losing desire to have yourself or a woman stimulate your cock whatsoever, and shall never expel your seed lest it happen during your sleep.
>>28783851
le real men fallacy pop psych survey crap
>>28783931
Still better than the shills trying to push their nofap/noporn crap without any proof.
>>28784136
>proof
Can't prove much because its largely subjective, and it can be said that the benefits are mostly from eliminatiing negative effects of fapping, porn, etc for you personally, as opposed to getting Chadlike superpowers from it.
>>28784188
>Can't prove much
Exactly.
1. Can't prove shit
2. Ignore all experiences of people who say it doesn't work
That's nofap/noporn in a nutshell.
>>28783909
lol you just need some self control and discipline you fucking mongoloid. if you can't push yourself to abstain from porn while touching your willy then you don't deserve to procreate.
>>28783131
>being this retarded
origami
>>28784605
I don't want to procreate, which is why I'm afraid to ever have sex regardless of other concurrent reasons.
I am not capable of masturbating with moderation, it has always quickly escalated into fapping several times a day and hours of edging. I had fapping problem before I had access to porn, and most of the time I looked at porn it was because I wanted to fap, rather than fapping because I looked at porn. Heck I still look at static images of adult content sometimes, and don't even get a boner, bu will get a boner just talking to a girl trying to sell me something at the mall. However, I am aware that for others its the opposite, they have developed extreme porn tastes and can no longer fell attraction/arousal to real women.
>>28783578
I used to fap 1 or 2 times a day. Sometimes I would do it up to 5 times a day. I definitely think that I was or still am addicted.
My diet is not too bad, but I rarely go outside.
>or other physical/mental health issues that make you always feel like shit
I've been diagnosed with autism and depression, but I'm having a hard time figuring out wether that's true or just a meme. I'm constantly tired and confused. Maybe I should get checked for physical issues as well.
I don't know anymore.
>>28782277
>ended up lying in bed all day
>Did I fall for the wrong memes again? Isn't this shit supposed to make you better somehow?
Only when you fill your spare time with positive shit then:
>Become fit- Go to /fit/
>Read the sticky.
>Follow it.
>If you have a hard start, first for a while do this:
>Eat less kcal than you spend.
>Use the app Noom to track calories.
>Caynax & Sworkit apps for free training programs.
>Learn to deal with your feelings.
>Read "How to manage depression with CBT for dummies".
>Use the apps CBT Diary, CBTi Coach and Life Strategy to track your feelings, dreams and fears.
>Organize your life.
>Track your tasks with the apps Taskhammer, Life Strategy, Raise the Bar & My Class Schedule.
>Learn to meditate or pray.
>"The Courage to be", "Way of the peaceful warrior", "The concept of anxiety" "The power of now" & "The Way of a Pilgrim" are great places to start.
>Become more social.
>Read "No more Mr. Nice Guy", "how to win friends and influence people", "The 48 laws of power", "How to make anyone fall in love with you" and "The way of the superior man".
>Learn what they offer (write it down on cards) and practice it.
>Join a club/ Hobby group.
>Do social work.
>Go out.
>Sleep more, and more regularly
>Wear fitting clothes.
>Have good hygiene.
>Practice, practice, practice...
>>28782277
You are who you are. You can not change without drastic measures. People trying to tell you you can change are delusional themselves. I mean, if you want to give up drugs , you stay away from them. That gets rid of the temptation, but you are still the same person. You just dont do that thing anymore. Materbation is good. Masterbate. Video games are fun and help escape the mundane limited real world. When i tell people to be themselves, i literally mean that. Stop trying to get everyone elses affection and admeration and just live your own life. Thats where youll find happines. Doing what YOU want.
I don't understand you people to be quite honest
>masturbate two or three times a day
>have a girlfriend and two side chicks
>browse 4chan before bed sometimes
>sparingly if ever workout during the summer
>have a job and close friends
You realize the outstanding majority of guys jerk off, use the Internet, and play video games and shit right?
They're not playing anime shit but still playing 2k and Madden. You don't need to hit some prerequisites (90 days no jerking off, now people are saying a whole year) before enjoying your life and making friends/dating.
>>28782277
Are you on anti-depressants?
They significantly lower your libido to the point where being on nofap is cheating.
Besides that you actually need to leave the house. The idea is that it makes interacting with people much easier.
>>28786281
Yep, and nofap makes you like that. AKA normal. Some folks are wired to be confident and charismatic alpha males and others not so much. You can change that though.
>>28786355
>Yep, and nofap makes you like that.
This makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. How does not touching your dick for an arbitrary period of time make you anymore charming or charismatic?
Were that the case you would think OP would have had an easier time creating friendships and relationships, in contrast to ordinary people who do these things every day without taking an oath of celibacy.
You're not going to change your wiring by abstaining from jerking off.
>>28786355
You read too many self help books. Im glad i dont know you in real life. You should be unhappy that YOU dont knoe me, cause i would smack some sense into your dumbass. I masterbatr ALL THE TIME and can still soocilaze. Stop trying to make excuses for your inability to talk to people
>>28786281
Any normal behavior can become addictive to the point its socially crippling and a health issue.
>>28786388
If being charming/charismatic is your true nature, and it was just being stifled all along because of the psychosomatic effects f masturbation/porn addiction.
OP revealed that he is actually a depressed shut-in though, so of course not much will change regardless unless he learns to be happy with himself and go outside. Likewise though I am more confident and charismatic, I don't hang out with friends or have GFs because I'm an autistic NEET
It does change your wiring if you stick with it. You body forgets what its like to fap and then you don't desire to do it or have sex anymore. I can't even fantasize about sex anymore. The only time I actually felt horny was when I awoke during my first wet dream since quitting fapping, but then just got out of bed and changed my pants, and back to contentedly celibate.
>>28782454
post bobcuts pls
ohmyfuck thats hot
>>28786401
Get a load of this nigger pretending to be a tuff guy on le internet
>>28786491
>I don't desire sex anymore, have a girlfriend, go outside, or have friends
Why then would OP emulate your actions? You've literally taken a course of action that is not at all neccesary in order to develop a social circle and relationships, as evidenced by the fact the majority of people will have sex, masturbate, and even marry, but has led you to not even so much as desire sex with others?
Sounds like a crock of shit
>>28786491
Not it doesnt, but keep telling yourself that. Youre a stubborn idiot with no other options in life, so you force yourself to be a way you admire instead of just letting things be natural. Stop givint shitty advice, no ones taking it. I mean, notice how youre a minority?
>>28786491
>Likewise though I am more confident and charismatic, I don't hang out with friends or have GFs because I'm an autistic NEET
>It does change your wiring if you stick with it. You body forgets what its like to fap and then you don't desire to do it or have sex anymore. I can't even fantasize about sex anymore. The only time I actually felt horny was when I awoke during my first wet dream since quitting fapping, but then just got out of bed and changed my pants, and back to contentedly celibate.
This sounds entirely counter intuitive to OP's desires. OP is a socially inept, depressed, shut-in who wants to improve the quality of his life. You've described the impact of NoFap helping you to live life like a "charismatic" hermit, if there is such a thing.
>>28786534
Sex is scary. I never want to have children and do not support any kind of abortion or elective surgery. Hence generally the only foolproof method to ensure I live childfree lifestyle is abstainence. I asked my shrink about this today, and why normal people who never want kids still fuck and think my views are extreme. He told me that they just accept sex and its risks as part of life, and if they do accidentally have a kid they don't see it as ruining their life and forcing a human being into existence like I would.
>>28786541
Fapping several times a day while edging to porn for several hours is not natural either, and I fapped as much in high school before had access to Porn 2.0. I stated that it is literally impossible for me to fap with moderation- whereas people with less of a problem can fap normal amounts like once a day or once a week. If choosing between to extremes- do nothing and be a slave to my sex drive until I die, or disregard it as if the only reason I have a dick is to urinate, I choose the latter, and happily enjoy a life of celibacy knowing that I am being my best self, operating on a higher level of mental, emotional and spiritual functioning that wouldn't be possible if I fap.
I don't need to be scientific or convince people of anything, because obviously I know I have much worse a problem with fapping addiction than most of you have/had, and am more negatively affected by the aftermath of frequent masturbation. If some of you can fap 3x a day to porn and still be outgoing and fuck your gf with no condom every weekend because it feels good and worth the risk, good for you
>>28786675
>Hence generally the only foolproof method to ensure I live childfree lifestyle is abstainence.
Have you ever heard of a vasectomy anon? It seems as though you're unnecessarily depriving yourself of the simple pleasures in life for stupid reasons.
Even if you decided you wanted to be a perpetual virgin jerking off definitely wouldn't result in child birth, even if you lose your "social skills" after having ejaculated (is that how it works in NoFap lore?) you don't need them since you intend on continuing to isolate yourself from society.
>>28786675
>I choose the latter, and happily enjoy a life of celibacy knowing that I am being my best self, operating on a higher level of mental, emotional and spiritual functioning that wouldn't be possible if I fap.
>40 days
Anon that's like a month and some change, you might not feel that same way a few weeks from now.
>>28786712
Perpetual virginity is preferable to elective surgery. Lots of men also report chronic pain/discomfort afterward. Its literally having yourself mutilated so you can be a hedonistic degenerate.
Jerking off doesn't even feel good aside from like 5 seconds before peak. Its just an addiction I am eternally grateful I let go of. I also have a high amount of that 'post ejaculatory slump' feeling and hate that feeling, would never want to experience it in the company of women. So this leaves me in the state I was in before I looked at porn- I still knew what sex was, but couldn't conceive of actually having it. All I really crave is physical and emotional intimacy sans intercourse. In previous threads I explored the idea that if I ever do get a gf/cuddle buddy she would probably also be into yoga and tantric practices, and so she would understand that semen depletion is bad for mens energy, and we could do some kind of orgasmic meditation rituals instead- or just cuddle and stuff. I always loved hugging and cuddling with women and get a boner from it, but feel thats all I really want in life, don't have to have sex.
>>28786748
I have literally become addicted to this "new self" that I have become when free of fapping addiction. I see myself moving towards more of a semi monk mode where the idea of sex is ever increasingly loast to me, yet I still am unavoidable heterosexual, enjoy looking at and hugging with women, and don't try to supress or deny my feelings.
>>28786867
Yeah the counter will probably last about another week, just jerk off nigga
>>28786947
NOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T MAKE ME MASTURBATE, YOU CAN'T MAKE ME HAVE SEX, I DON'T WANNA CUM, REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>28786984
Hahaha, go on ahead nigga and jerk that dick off. I know the motherfucka is hard all the time
Ole frustrated ass nigga with a big boatload of cum up in his body
Bust that big ass nut pussy
>>28787003
>>28787003
>big boatload of cum up in his body
Nope, felt no sexual frustration at all, and had my first wet dream 2 days ago. Wet dreams used to happen around 10 days in, but since last time I was fapping it literally hurt to ejaculate, probably took 4 times as long because I am healing form the trauma inflicted on myself from fapping like crazy.
Your resitsance only makes my penis softer.
>>28787003
only gets hard from morning wood or when I actually talk to or hug girls in real life
>>28786206
No offense, but you clearly seem to have things figured out.
Why do you even come to /r9k/? Do you just come here to give advice to people who will probably never use it?
Most people here, including me, are far too jaded and bitter to even try.
>>28787827
>Why do you even come to /r9k/?
Cause for the majority of my life (Till 21 / am 24 now) I was one of you.
>Do you just come here to give advice to people who will probably never use it? Most people here, including me, are far too jaded and bitter to even try.
I realize that. But if only one does, I have payed it forward, what I somehow feel compelled to do, because of my past.
