Who here practices a skill (like martial arts or programming) diligently every day? What do you practice, and how do you manage to practice it every day without getting bored/annoyed?
>want to learn a lot of shit
>no motivation
>lose concentration after reading a few pages
>masturbate and shitpost rest of the day
Come on
>>28740302
I don't know if you can class it a skill but I've always wanted to be fluent in another language. I ended up picking Japanese. Basically every day I try to
>post on Lang-8
>practice handwriting kanji
>read/study grammar from my books
>flashcard vocab and sentences
I lose a lot of motivation when I post something on Lang-8 and it gets corrected to fuck, because it feels like I'm not making any progress. But I just drink a bit and then the next day regain my determination to one day master the language. It's pretty much the only reason for me to keep going.
>>28740302
it can help to have a goal and a way to measure your progress in reaching it
>>28740382
That's pretty cool. Probably weeb, but still cool.
>It's pretty much the only reason for me to keep going.
Why though?
>>28740412
What kind of goal? I've tried setting goals before, but they demotivate me more than anything.
>>28740302
Vidya dev.
Constantly force myself to learn more and improve on things. Its not fun lots of times but when it is fun its worth it.
It always gets boring and annoying often while practicing anything. You just persist through that and soon the thing youre practicing becomes its own reward to you.
It honestly has to do a lot with allowing yourself to think optimistically and know that if you continue working on thing, youll get good at thing. Besides, what else are you doing? You might as well learn a trade or skill, it will help with your overall mental health.
>>28740547
>Vidya dev.
Post screenshot/vid of a game you made.
Are you a professional or a hobbyist? If hobbyist, do you work a normal job as well or are you a neet?
>>28740302
>inb4 'meditation'
>>28740531
>What kind of goal?
something realistic to start with, something easy to achieve.
in your case, for example, your goal could be to read a chapter a day minimum. no more and no less. repeat daily, and you'll start to get into the habit of reading
>>28740531
I wouldn't say I meet the criteria to be a weeb. I'm interested in the culture but I still love my European heritage, and they've got plenty of social problems over in Japan.
I'm literally doing it because I'm driven by the urge to become fluent in another language. My entire life revolves around mastering this skill and that's the prime consideration in everything I do. Even if I get completely discouraged and give up, eventually I can't resist the call to start trying to learn it again. It's the language and only the language that keeps me going. I have nothing else in my life worth living, no talents, no friends, no prospects for a relationship, so the best I can do is master something. And that something will be Japanese, no matter what I will fucking master that language.
>>28740647
Medita...oh. Nevermind.>mfw I actually do.
>>28740676
Well good luck then. I hope you master it some day so you can watch anime without subs.
As far as physical practices go, I do non-rotational knife throwing and cutting with swords. The best advice I can give to anybody struggling with boredom is to take a break, but make yourself go back eventually.
Personally, making videos about my hobbies helps me keep going, and this has also worked for a programmer friend of mine. You do have to deal with autistic commenters who apparently know everything though, so have some thick skin. I woke up today to see "You have zero skill" from a guy with no videos and video games all over his channel.
>>28741353
Are you a literal fat neckbeard? That might explain the comments.
Anyway, it's a pretty cool hobby. I'd like to get into swordfighting someday (after I get my life on track).I'm black though, so I hope the police doesn't see me holding a sword in my back yard and shoot me.
I applied to university at the time age of 24 starting this September. Its a foundation course in scientific study that allows progression onto a wide range of STEM degrees, but I have not been in education for some time and I know absolutely nothing about physics, my maths skills are okay.
I've been working through physics textbooks in my spare time and trying to improve my grip on calculus and statistics, I'm having way more fun than I ever did in school.
>>28741353
Are you literally this guy?
>>28742426
Could you elaborate on what you find fun about it? A lot of people say like like the theoretical STEM stuff, and I'm trying to find out what they like exactly so I can focus on it. Maybe I'll come to like the books I'm reading as well.
>>28742599
He only intends to wound, never to kill. He spared the bottle for it might have children who rely on it.
stop watching porn faggot and your issue will disappear
Is there some 10 step program to motivating yourself? There's a bunch of stuff I know I can do I just have this intense fear of failure that stops me before I even start.
>>28740302
When I'm not high or drunk and do nothing, the bad toughts come again. There was a moment in my life, I nearly died.
It was winter and I fell into a canal because I didn't care. Down there, I slowly felt the cold creep in my body. It came to me as normal and regular as any other perception. I realized, if I didn't move now, I will soon be dead. Dead as everything else in my life already was. I don't know why I got up and fought for my life. In the end I succeeded and survived.
If I don't do anything, the thoughts come back an remind me of the fact that I still don't actually know why I got up. And that everything is but a mere shadow of what is already lost and that I am empty and blank. And that there is no way back to what I left behind. People died, I moved away and look at you now, you are evicted, banned, exiled, forever till your death in depravity and loneliness.
here are my current things, they change all the time
>play piano and some other instruments
>have five jobs
>going through my third bachelor degree at uni
>go to grandma's and friend's house to cook for them
>build simple furniture from wood
>don't care for holidays or sundays
>>28742892
I have an appreciation for understanding how things work I suppose. I like that I can study a principle or property of some topic in physics and understand the how it works, but then going into the maths of the idea, I then lean about the underpinning mathematics and through that I understand fully why something behaves the way it does.
Its not just the maths behind things which makes them beautiful, sometimes science can "elegantly" explain a phenomena or provide insight into how brilliantly designed the physical world is, and I find that very amazing in of itself.
I practice being a lazy fuck every day
It's actually kind of a skill
>>28743042
>practice not being an asshole and pretending to care
>it's gotten to the point where occasionally I have to stop and realize people are actually being honest and think I care
>I've actually won an argument with a woman, my sister-in-law of all people when my brother was right there, one of my proudest moments as it took me years of learning argument and learning about framing others mindsets (stuff like transactional analysis)
>wonder if I'm just partly a psychopath
>>28743199
>practice not being an asshole and pretending to care
>it's gotten to the point where occasionally I have to stop and realize people are actually being honest and think I care
I don't get it. Are you an asshole who pretends not to be an asshole, but forgets that people have actual feelings and are being honest contrary to yourself?
>>28743042
True. The amount of effort I'll put into not doing any productive, could break world records.
>>28744022
Hypocricy and Narcissm instrumentalized to validate to yourself while actually just a parasite.
Coursera's LEARN HOW TO LEARN online course starts in less than 24 hours.
It covers stuff like procrastination and memory.
>>28745524
And you think it's gonna help chronic procrastinators?
>>28744761
And of course your suggestion is to just get up and do shit, even if you barely have the desire to live.
>>28745759
No. I don't know how to help chronic procrastinators.
Here's what worked for me with mild to moderate procrastination:
1. Being at the library. I was somehow able to do a little bit of learning there.
2. Doing stuff ironically. I pretended I didn't actually have to learn, but that I would look at what the other poor suckers have to know. This worked only once, though.
3. This one was most usefull.
I set 6pm to be a deadline. After it I didnt allow myself to do any work whatsoever. I could ignore thoughts of "I am awake, I have time, be productive" much easier by saying it's past 6, only free time now! And it didnt matter if I actually had done any work before the deadline, or if I wasn't finished with something.
Combined with being at the library this helped me gain productivity.
Would something like that or coursera help chronic procrastinators? I don't know, I haven't been one.
I go to martial arts twice week. I have to force myself to do it. I get scared but when I'm there I can well. I just focus on surviving.
>>28740302
I want to be a magician, today I tried to summon my dead cat and I felt some energy in my hands.
Tomorrow I'm gonna try to make it rain.
>>28746494
Hmm maybe I'll try #3. It might help force me into doing shit before the deadline.
>>28747329
related: the 2-minute rule.
If something takes less than 2 minutes to do, do it immediately.
That helps me keep my desk somewhat clean.
>>28740302
Oh. It's simple anon. Put yourself in a situation that gives you no other choice but to do what you want to do.
When I was 21 I just simply quit uni, moved out and landed junior programming position. If I failed I would need to work for mcdonalds.
It worked.
>>28740302
The only thing I can actually stick to is shooting. I'm getting more into the self defense aspect now that I'm in the process of getting to conceal carry.
I literally cannot follow through with anything else but practicing on shooting, it's the only thing I can find joy and feel engaged doing.
>>28747685
Doesn't that cost a lot of money for the bullets? Anyway, that's pretty cool. I live in Europe and I wish I could have a gun, but you really have to drag your balls through glass to be able to own one here.
>>28747634
Man I'm in college programming student and I absolutely hate it. Living with my parents and about to fail college again. Yet I can program better than my peers. My reason for failure is exclusively laziness. Your post gives me a little hope, although I don't know if my balls are big enough to do what you did.
martial arts(FMA), lifting(if that even counts) and I draw(animation major)
I don't know really I've somehow convinced myself that doing these things consistently are important I guess it's just become habit already it does get boring but I regret not doing them than doing them.
just force yourself even if you don't enjoy do a little on your bad days just to get the habit in and so you don't get lazy eventually it'll just click and you'll be doing it everyday
>>28748521
Thanks for the advice man. I feel like even if I read 1 page of my programming book I feel more inclined to read another the next day. Hell, I feel more inclined to keep reading. I guess I have to force myself to do a little every day, until I start doing more and more automatically.
Out of curiosity though, do you take classes for martial arts or do you just practice moves independently?
I play the guitar and the piano and compose and produce music.
I do it (almost) everyday because it's fun. Almost like a kind of meditation, where I forget about everything but the music. Here's my routine:
- first I improvise on my instrument of choice. Usually it's the piano, sometimes the guitar, but since my piano is linked to my virtual instruments it can be almost anything. Depends what sound I want to hear and if I want to play a keyboard / bass / percussion / whatever
- if I'm feeling inspired I press the record button and play until I've got something which could be used in a song. Sometimes it's just simple chords that anybody could write down, but whether something simple still feels appropriate a combination of the sound and my mood - if it feels right for me, I assume it will feel right for someone else.
- then I try to build up on that musical tibdit. Add instruments, try to find instruments which work well together, etc. Solo over chords. I work on the production as I go along, focusing on the role of each instrument and the general orientation the piece is going to have : is it poppy (in which case lots of compression and at least +3db on the limiter), will it have many instruments (if so take away all the frequencies under 150hz if they're not needed and be mindful of the panning), is the bass or the percussion more important (generally only one of them will keep the sub frequencies), etc.
- if I'm not feeling inspired I practice (mostly classical) pieces instead or try to figure out how x musician improvises or does his arrangements
- if I feel like I'm always playing the same thing I completely change the genre I'm writing in (I've written orchestral music, black metal, neofolk, post-chiptune, jazz piano etc)
Hope that helps. I think when you get into a creative hobby you understand all the individual parts it's composed of and so you can practice them individually.
>>28740302
>>want to learn a lot of shit
>>no motivation
>>lose concentration after reading a few pages
>>masturbate and shitpost rest of the day
Programming as a hobby there.
This is actually me, except I'm pretty good at it, so the only way for me to progress is to move onto very time consuming things and I can't find the motivation to do that.
>>28749590
OP here and that's the situation I'm in, except worse. I learned to program and have been doing it for several years now. Now that I've become decent, I feel like moving on to advanced shit (especially stuff requiring math) is incredibly time-consuming and will take me years before becoming decent in that as well. In addition to that I want to learn to draw, speak a foreign language, learn the guitar, and much more.
And all of it seems like a fucking chore. Now that I've been through all the shitty problems as a programmer, my mind automatically runs from having to put in that effort again and again and again, running into problems that make me want to kill myself. When I was programming I sometimes felt as if there was a wall that I couldn't get over, and that I would never progress beyond that. Eventually I solved every issue I came across, but it's so draining and debilitating to go through these migraine-causing issues.
I wish there was literally a gun to my head. It would improve my life drastically, knowing that I will die if I don't put in a required amount of effort. I wish my life wasn't an /r9k/-meme.
>>28740302
writing (screenwriting, novels, etc.). it's easiest to stay motivated when i have a project to work on. i tell myself i'll spend at least 20 minutes every day working on it until i'm finished. i don't have to do any more than 20 minutes- so it doesn't seem as daunting. but by the time i've done 20 minutes, i'm in the zone and enjoying it, so i end up doing more.
music producing on DAW
>spend hours mixing and mastering
>still sounds like utter shit
>listen to other talented producers
>sound is nowhere even close to clear as theirs
>want to just uninstall my DAW and throw my speakers away
>realize Ill never make a living off making music
JUST
>>28750311
If you get good enough you can always make a tutorial YouTube channel. Maybe it'll take off someday.
>>28750272
I always get demotivated doing this. I start but the writing is so long-winded and bothersome to look at. When I read my story I always notice things said in a stupid way, or sentences that sound completely wrong. It just demotivates me completely.
Any of you cats live near a beach? Surfing is literally the most rewarding pastime on the planet. Gets you fit too. The more you do the better you get.
>>28740647
It is a skill though.
I bet you couldnt sit with your eyes closed and focus on your breath for more than 15 minutes without getting too agitated that you had to get up and stop.
>>28740302
going into my 4th month of learning japanese.
i study for 4~ hours every single day but for the past few weeks i've become incredibly fucking lazy and im cutting corners everywhere.
>>28750206
start with a project that involves the advanced elements you want to learn.
i chose to learn my programming via arduino because everytime i came up with an idea someone already done it and that just kills me inside. at least this way my programming skills will help me build more than just software but an friendbot;_;
>>28740302
Just small things, for the most part. Reading is probably one of the most and easy thing to do daily. I use duolingo every day to pick up useful phrases in languages. I don't know how useful it actually is, but it's pretty fun for me. I also do martial arts, but that's only about 3 days a week, I try to lift 3 days a week as well.
>>28743027
Yeah, man. Fuck Sundays.
