Who here /stuck in a genuinely shitty country/?
>living in a small village in spain
>20% unemployment rate in my region, even if you managed to get a job it would probably pay you minimum wage which is about 5 bucks an hour
>region keeps losing development over the time
>other regions in the same country may reach 30-40% unemployment
>a country where about half of all people younger than 23 never had a single job in their entire lives
>never had a paying job myself, only a 10 month internship
>can't go to college/vocational school because of a combination of shitty grades and lack of vacancies
>a shitton of other young people can't get in either (especially in the big cities), government does practically nothing to deal with this immense demand
>a country where only about 20% of people younger than 30 manage to successfully move out of their parents house, even if they manage to it's usually in their late 20s
>a country where a shitton of people don't enroll in high school, many don't even finish middle school at all and 35% of young people don't have a HS degree or equivalent
>probably around 25% of the young population is a NEET
>nothing gets done in this fucking country, social programs have been getting cut off
>new elections next month where nothing will get done like last december
>stuck with slow and expensive internet too
>little hope to successfully emigrate even if I wanted to
Southern Europe is pure hell. Many third world countries are unironically better off than us right now, with far more hope for the future than we'll ever have here.
Spain is so depressing you can literally see HS classes (or their equivalent) being filled up with people in their mid 20s, with only a few teenagers.
You can see people in their late 20s, 30s, even 40s that either never left their parents house to start with or had to return due to crushing poverty.
Doesn't that just sound ridiculous? Well it actually happens in this pathetic excuse of a "developed" country.
Not country, but State. Alabama is awful.
That said, Spain sounds way fucking worse
>>28656130
At least you've got good food and cool architecture
Portugalfag here.
We've got it worse.
>>28656193
How's life in Portugal right now? Guess it's pretty shit since Southern Europe and all, but how shit does it really get?
>>28656216
I can't find a job, not even at McDonalds. College fees are ridiculous. Minimum wage is like 450 euros a month. Government is corrupt and garbage.
So yea, pretty much shit like our spanish brothers.
>>28656130
Venezuela reporting senpai
>no food
>30 bucks a month minimum wage
>highest inflation in the continent
>can't go outside without fearing for my safety
>computer died and can't afford repairs
>phone died and I have to use one my mom lent me
>can't afford my VW beetle's repairs
>daily 4 hour long scheduled blackouts
>computer died a month after I quit my 2 jobs to draw commissions and now I'm unemployed
My highlight this month was eating corn flakes. My mom is going to visit my aunt for a month in the states and she'll get a job to bring some money home.
I can't afford the visa and travel expenses to go and work for a bit too.
>>28656404
Such is life in Bernie's socialist paradise
spain sucks ass right now tbqh. Should have stayed in the uk
>>28656130
what region do you live in fampai?
>>28656452
Governments should focus less on ideology and more in administration of the country.
If a country gives opportunities to those who are willing to take them then there is no excuse for extremeh poverty. Think of all the people who started with nothing and now own their own food chains thanks hard work and good planning.
The people who got support this charade are the poor who aren't willing to work and want everything for free.
>>28656534
Castile and Leon, this rural shithole somehow still manages to be better than many other southern regions in the same country.
>>28656596
aragon is not much better tbqh. Plus culturaly everybody is ten years behind compared to the rest of the country
whew, this thread is making me feel a bit grateful
Sweden here. Every day I wish for someone to just wipe the country off the map. There is nothing of value here.
Why don't you just become a Youtuber? Isn't that Spain's largest export?
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>>28656242
Ridiculous?
Literally 1k per year on a public university that you can pay in 6 installements spread trough the year
poland reporting in
>have to work at least two hours to afford pack of cigarettes, and have to smoke half of it to stand 2 hours of a shitty job
>people are shit
>scenery is shit
>educational system is shit
>polish chads are the worst shit of all
>literally everything here is in some way connected with shit
>>28656161
Fuck you scum what city?
If I lived in Spain or Portugal I'd either sell drugs or move to Germany or something
>>28656242
>>28656130
>450 euro minimum wage
Actually you guys are not the only ones. Im from Slovakia so I can relate to your pain. We are really only SLIGHTLY better than Spain from what OP said
OP-
I lived in Oviedo for a bit in 2004. Even then I remember thinking, "Europe seems based. Architecture, food, everything is awesome."
And then I began getting to know Spaniards, including the wonderful Senora with whom I lived. Her stories of unemployment and economic woes, coupled with absurd taxes for no services astonished me.
It was then that I woke up and realized how impossible socialism was.
It's a great dream, but the reality for the United States is that Detroit, Buffalo, Baltimore-they all have forms of European welfare safety nets and they are disasters. Americans culturally do not do well unless they are challenged individually. In group/team support settings, we all slack off and nothing gets done.
I feel for you anon. Godspeed. I wish the US took more European immigrants in. Instead? Let's import more Somalians and Burmese. That will be great!
self-hating spaniards are the worst scum in Spain
This thread is making me feel a lot better about living in Paris
>Beautiful city
>comfy desk job in a rich and clean neighborhood
>even if I get fired there's plenty of jobs
>small but comfy af appartment
>awesome food everywhere
>Bars everywhere
>Parties everywhere
>Despite what everyone says niggers and arabs aren't too bad
>Beautiful qts to stalk everywhere
Spain rocks for holidays but sucks for everything else. Leave the country and join the masses in Germany or the UK leading better lives even with McJobs.
Northern Spain here, moved to France, it's fucking based.
>>28659609
You're wrong, most don't hate it, it's self deprecation and it's an important part of spanish and, especially, catalan culture
>>28659734
The only thing I have to complain about is the metro smelling like SHIT all the fucking time.
Its really bad when you're creeping on a beautiful girl and you're only smelling shit.
>>28659752
Anyone mildly intellectual rather. It's not even political anymore.
>>28659734
>Parties everywhere
>Despite what everyone says niggers and arabs aren't too bad
fuck off you fucking normie we dont want you here
>>28656452
Socialism isnt good but you are ignoring the fact that Venezuela's goverment is incredibly corruptBut trying to have a serious discussion with a trumpfag is a waste of time
>tfw no qt foreign gf to save from poverty in her shithole country
>tfw the US is also on its way to becoming a shithole
I'm from argentina.
All I'm going to say is that you fucking americucks don't have the right to complain about anything.
If you live in America you are not and will never be a robot
>>28659274
fellow 600 Euro a month guy ?
V cistom
>>28659847
Kek, fuck off third worlder. Your input means as much to me as some nigger from somolia.
>>28656130
>boo hoo a jock bullied me and popular girls laugh at me ;_;
you cucks live on easy mode, try living here in brasil, the country of sex and loud monkeys.
>>28659847
Hey, don't be like that. The human condition can't be cured by cheap burgers alone.
>live in Germany
>crime rates are extreme high; go out after 8pm in bigger cities and the chances you get mugged are about 30 percent
>over 55 percent of the people here are poor
>no jobs and the state keeps cutting welfare all the time (last cut/worsening is one week ago)
>infrastructure is also shit, even in bigger towns you are getting max. 5Mbits internet, but you have to pay 69,99E per month for it and it has a 250GB limit
>taxes are high as fuck, but there is no good welfare state for compensation
>health system sucks ass, you already have to pay about 40 percent of your treatment by yourself, even necessary medication, but you have to pay the full fee for the statutory health insurance
>for one visit at the normal doctor you have to wait about 3 to 6 month and pay around 50E for it
>i have to work at two jobs to keep myself alive and my rent is increasing again about 6 percent (last one was about 8 percent and was only two month ago), now i have to pay 580E cold rent for 25m2 (and i live in a village near a town)
Please kill me.
>>28659825
this guy is right
simply fuck you ameri/australia/westernyurop/cucks... understand that you fucking won the life lottery.
you get cars at your 16/18 birthdays, you can literally visit whole world for the salaries you earn or money you get from the goverments
UNDERSTAND FOR FUCKING SAKE THAT WE HAVE TO WORK OUR ASSES HARD TO EVEN DREAM ABOUT THINGS YOU GET ALONG WITH YOUR BIRTHS
portuguese uni student here
i come from a little village too, only people with connections can get jobs, and being a robot like i am of course i can't get one.
portuguese friends where are you? what district
>>28659944
you and your kindsmen like sucking unwashed turkish/syrian cocks, dont you?
you had possibility to become one of the most confiest country ever but it seems that without some dictator you can only fuck your shits up
no offence anon, you cant do a thing about pollicies in your country but still germany is example of chad who became fucked up autistic and daily raped neet
>>28659949
There is no doubt your quality of life is worse living in a third world country but there is nothing stopping you from giving 110% in order to immigrate to a better country if it's that bad. Hopefully in 20-30 years most countries have transitioned to first world with advancements in most infrastructures aside from isolated nations or extremely impoverished ones.
>>28659944
Are you cute? Maybe you could suck muslim dick for money.
I have no sympathy left for Germans, just hatred and disgust
>>28659944
>even in bigger towns you are getting max. 5Mbits internet, but you have to pay 69,99E per month for it and it has a 250GB limit
For fucking real?
>>28656130
why dont you join the army and try and take gibralter off us if we vote out of europe?
>>28660236
The military is filled up to the rim too, about 2 years back there were only about 1500 vacancies and 40000 applicants. And guess who's going to get recruited? The normies and Chads.
Sure feels good to be a burger right now.
>>28659944
580 Euros for 25m2 HAHAHAAH WHAT THE FUCK?! IN A VILLAGE?! Dude you are completely being ripped off. I live in a town next to a trainstation that leads right to the next big city and all I pay is 370 for the same shitty small 25m2 room, and that's already a lot.
>>28656130
Get out of that shit man, used to live in Valencia were the unemployment rate for people younger than 23 was 80% and left as soon as I could.
Go to greener pastures man, you're in the Schengen zone, go to fucking Germany, the Netherlands, Britain or Scandinavia and find a job there and work your way up the ladders man.
It's not easy but beats rotting away in Spain, have lots of interesting anecdotes about stories living in a bumfuck village where kids would commit crimes out of pure boredom.
>>28660298
then move closer to where all the tourist stay the local economy will be much better around people who are on holiday
>>28660113
man trust me i tried...
im from poland so lets say its a 2nd world country but whatever... two days after reaching 18th birthday i packed up my backpack and hitchhiked to netherlands... (every fucking single person in poland has somebody abroad, so they have some kind of possibility to catch seasional job to earn really big money comparing it to salaries in poland) everyone beside me ofc. so i was on my own, ive sent some applications via internet, but did recive much responds, i simply dreamt about earning +8euros per hours doing the worst kind of job, but when i get there i found only one place willing to hire me, but the salary they could offer was about 3euros per hours (after insurance and taxes and throwed up bed in gettho area) so i simply couldnt even afford food there but i still hoped the things will get better...
months passed by i started to hate myself more and more, started doing drugs and drinking heavily, often ended up being beaten really badly by some other polish subhumans becouse i had gayish haircut and polish subhumans dont like gayish haircuts
i simply couldnt stand it anymore so i went back to poland but i know what ive seen you can literally have everything when you have job on normal therms
I want more stories so I can feel better about myself.
>>28661010
Only if you send a horny spanish qt.
Eh
I went to a job interview 2day, the pay is 23000rsd/month
That is about 180 euros, or 200 dollars.
Such is life in Serbia
>>28661065
Jesus fuck why
>>28658905
>smoker
Quit it now, Zbychu
>>28661065
How are you even alive? Is everything just really cheap?
>>28661367
The average salary is maybe 30000rsd, about 250euros.
They said that my pay would increase after 3 months.
Idk, i guess i will see. Its a cable assembly job, lear corporation.
We are slave labor now.
>>28656900
Romania here. Desperately trying to get to Sweden and be poor but happy.
I'd trade places any day with you senpai.
Germany
Its not as bad as spain, but its still depressing. The country gets overrun with disgusting sandniggers and if you speak up against it, you get stigmatized by everyone. I cant find a job despite having good grades. There is no culture here anymore.
It's a very sad county. Germans hate themselves. Everybody else hates us, too.
It feels like something is coming to an end. Your home dies
>>28661559
I still live with my parents.
Mom has a good job, double the average salary, + we own our appartment, no rent to pay so we manage.
She inherited the job from my granddad, her father, he was a communist. Hence the appartment and a good job.
>>28661641
Pls krona?
>>28656130
I live in Sicily so I can feel those feels senpai
>>28661829
var snall och slutar vara en faggot
Please excuse my basic Swedish. I don't make much from my eastern european programmer job but sure, you can have a krona.
>>28661843
E tutti sti immigrati che vengono in questo paese di merda,spesso richiando di morire,sperando di trovare l'america.
>>28656900
At least you ha TONS of coll metal bands.
Al menos no vives en un pueblo ANDALUZ
You still sound like a bitch tho, get better degrees or try to get a job, even if its a shitty one
>>28660446
CHARM THEM WITH AUTISM, BRO!
beee yourself!
>>28659944
Yeah you fucking retard, Austria here and I know this post is 100% wrong.
Wages are in both countries pretty high, so is the employment rate. Criminality is going down despite what Neonazis claim and most cities are much cheaper than where I live, only Munich Frankfurt or better parts of Berlin cost more but a rural flat is nowhere near 500 euros for 25 sqm.
According to my countries poverty index I'm poor but have more than 600 euros per month at my disposal and I could probably save 150 more.
The rate of doctors in both countries are as high as nowhere else save Israel and some Nordic countries and you have to pay a flat fee for going to a doctor, but this is to prevent people from storming there for every headache like they used to.
>earn $300 USD a week working part time
>still can't afford anything because everything is overpriced here
>>28658905
feel you bro, Poland is getting worse by the minute
>>28659952
castelo branco. it sucks in here. And yeah...it's like you say. Cunhas, Cunhas, Cunhas.
In complete seriousness it's completely utterly retarded to have such enormous technological progress and have people fight for basic survival still. When we making the revolution, robots ??
I live in Brazil. I have a stable job, but still...
>>28658953
Leeds orgnl
>>28662395
We'd need almost free food somehow.
>>28656130
>not living in America
>>28662315
indeed, i couldn't get my car license without those "cunhas", most south european countrys have a lot of corruption since back in the day.
you are far from me anon, currently i am in coimbra studing, fuking chads and normalfaggotery always partying and screaming,
>A shitton of muslims and corrupt people
>No one knows or cares about anything that requires a brain
>Jobs mostly around minimum wage (around 300 euros/350 dollars)
>Living in the biggest city is suffering incarnate (Istanbul, around 25 million people)
>Get chased by a civil cop and his mudslime friends with knives for drinking at the beach at night
>Fight some retards for pushing me when I was trying to get out of the subway, they were trying to get in
Such is life in Turkey. I hope Russia nukes this place.
Reminder that westernfags can't and never will be robots, and that their "just immigrate bro" advice is literally "jus b urself"-tier
minimum wage in Bulgaria - 184euro, you still think you have it worse than other countries?
>>28662683
Nah thats bullshit, the U.S. alone produces magnitudes more GDP every year than it would take to feed the entire world, its the logistics of the operation that make it impossible.
>tfw your country is a vassal state of Israel
>tfw your country will be a nonwhite country within a generation
>tfw stuck
>>28663332
What is that equal to in an hourly rate?
Thing I hate the most recently about America is how expensive real estate in big cities are.
I lived in this rural area my whole life and want to experience living in a big city but finding a studio under $700 a month in the three biggest ones is near impossible
>tfw living in Canada
>Canada is based life
>get free money from government
>legalized cannabis next year
>living the good life
>>28657590
He's exaggerating Portugal is not that bad. The wages are shit though. Moving to Germany as soon as possible
Poland
Pros:
>no blacks
>no muslims
>low crime rate
>good education
>free university with tons of scholarships and opportunities
>internet is cheap and limitless
>not spoiled by western culture
>girls are okay, not too shallow or judging
>lots of places you can go and fish
>cheap alcohol
>cheap food
Cons:
>400 euro/month minimum wage with no benefits or overtime pay, even though you're going to be working overtime everyday
>can't look like a faggot unless you want to get your shit beat in by the local traditionalistic nationalists
>almost everyone is dishonest and would trick you for your money and not feel guilty about it
Besides the terrible financial prospects, it's pretty good
>>28663714
>tfw canada
>prime minister literally wants to bring in mexicans by the truckload
>refuses foreign aid while my province is burning
>now living with my parents in the states while the area around my house burns
FUCKING REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>28656404
>>daily 4 hour long scheduled blackout
I have those too. From alcohol abuse.
>tfw born in America
Literally the worst place to be born besides North Korea
>>28664053
Looking pretty good if this thread is any indicator.
>>28656130
>Southern Europe is pure hell. Many third world countries are unironically better off than us right now, with far more hope for the future than we'll ever have here.
You are insane entitled idiot. You have a EU citizenship, it is possible for you to travel and work all over EU, but you don't do it because you are lazy and don't know languages.
I'm stuck in this 3rd world slavic hellhole, I can't just move to EU, they won't give me work visa. If you think I voted for mr p utin, you are wrong, I don't have any choice but to see and suffer under his decisions.
Think about how much better you have it.
>MFW we mexicans have surpassed our father yet again
And i thought i lived in a shithole, while i actually just live in a craphole
>>28663978
>bring in mexicans by the truckload
I hardly see any mexicans here and I live in van
>>28664053
>besides North Korea
and Cuba and Morocco and pretty much any african country and Mexico and Russia and any Islamic country and half the European countries
>>28664096
Yeah you have it pretty bad, you live in a mafia-ran country and your women are so terrible that you resort to ponies.
At least your internet isn't censored yet.
>>28659604
>Somalians and Burmese
Burmese I can deal with but those damned Somalis are fucking up the neighborhood and clogging road ways.
>>28656130
It's things like this that make me glad that my ancestors were enslaved by white people. In Nigeria like 90% of people have maggot infestations. It's like acne for them. Any nonwhite person who has a problem with white people needs to go live in a nonwhite country. You'll be begging to be enslaved by white men again
French countryside, in the most rural part of the country.
>only one city in a 50km radius, otherwise you only have small villages of 500 hundred people all separated by kilometers of woods
>everyone is unemployed
>only jobs are minimum wage jobs at the touristic places of the region or at small businesses if you're lucky
>shit weather, rainy and cold
>all shops are closed on sunday, monday and sometimes wednesday afternoon
>you have to drive for kilometers through the woods just to find a supermarket
>no /nightwalks/ because no lights in the streets past 10 and old people will call the cops on you
>howthefuckdoyoumeetgirls
>nothing to do
At least the nature is pretty
>>28662799
Portuguese here.
I'm from the north. and yes... this country is going down the sink but there are worse places to live.
Also, we can travel freely troughout europe wich means that we can escape anytime we want.
>>28664363
You might be the smartest nigger in America. 10/10
>>28664401
Meant "5 hundred", sorry im on my phone
I'm in Greece
Beat this, motherfuckers
>>28656130
just become a professional victim senpai
>>28659152
you wouldn't stay free for much time, police here is very eficient against small criminals
>>28659752
really, again? spanish are very envious with catalan
>>28656130
I have heard the memes about Spain, but I didn't think it was that bad. Sounds like you are a recession away from Greece. Is it just your region that is really far off? Also I don't get why people would be looking to move out if they don't even stability in their finances. That is what some Millenials here in the US do and then complain about not being able to afford a place.
>>28664401
It ain't that bad, you know. You just have to change place, I know that's r9k, but still - being alone is same like everywhere and, as you've already noticed, you're better to meet someone somewhere else. Especially in the France, shit, u don't have to travel to live fuckin normal life.
Poland stronk here
>yeah we don't want anyone else here wieden 1410 kurwa
>BUT we do want to fuckin go abroad to get shitty jobs
>everyone's complaining on everything
>no one's trying to fix anything
Still, I really enjoy living here. I mean, I design shit online, so I get payed in dollars and avarage polish salary is 450 dollars. I manage to live in one of biggest cities and u know, make it somehow comfortable. Still planing to go to Norway tho
I would marry an attractive guy in another country so that he can get US Citizenship with me. He needs to do these things though:
> genuinely love me and want to marry me
> not smoke or drink
> immediately start school upon arriving to the US with the end goal of getting a bachelor's degree in nursing or engineering so he can work and make good money
>>28664363
Funny enough the richest black person in the world is Nigerian. Is this your coping mechanism for being descended from slaves? There are African immigrants who are wealthy in Western nations and didn't come from slaves.
>>28656404
Come to Brazil. We still have few jobs, a little bit of liberty and women to comfort you.
>>28664784
tits or gtfo fembot attention whore
>>28664784
What if he feigns attraction and then enrolls in a cc for engineering to transfer to a bigger uni but drops out? Will you have this in writing?
>>28664884
I'd probably sue him idk.
>>28664096
Russia is actually a 2nd world country and you need to have good connections and stand up to yourself if you want a good life in it I know this because I'm studying in Russia there's lots of nigs and arabs in Russian universities but overall great country. Learn to appreciate what you have.
>>28656130
shut up dirty spaniard we dont care about your probelms. americ ais number 1 and europe is the worst contient on earth.
>graduated HS
>went to university
>took an extra 2 years but its ok because my parents make good money
>hired right after graduation
>live in downtown metropolitan area in a nice apartment
>own a car and motorcyclestill a virgin
>>28659952
Santarem here
>>28660113
>there is nothing stopping you from giving 110% in order to immigrate to a better country if it's that bad
>>28665285
>americas (ftfy)
>s
easy there spic/chink canadian
only the united states is good. the rest of the countries can fuck off
>>28658953
jemison
