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no sex fantasy, still objectify women?
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In recent days, a change I have noticed is that I seem to have just lost the ability to fantasize about having sex with women. I do believe this is because my body is forgetting what it is like to masturbate. I would often fantasize about living in an alternate reality where I could fuck and 10, 20, 30 or 100 women I seen in real life or porn, imagining their naked bodies splayed out under me and how good it would feel with my dick inside their pussy. [I just got a 10% boner writing this]. But because that sensation in my dick is more lost to me, it seems that the whole idea of sex is fading away even as a fantasy. Seeing sexy women in real life or pictures does not change that, and still even if I watched a porn video, which I won't.

So my commitment to non-onanism and abstinence seems even more rock solid now. In the bigger picture, the loss of sexual fantasy is part of just accepting reality. Unlike in my fantasies, there is no suck thing as consequence free bareback sex that feels totally good afterward, and wishing there could be such things is just literal mental masturbation.

Nevertheless, I find myself deeply attracted to women even if all I can do is look at them. When describing my thoughts about women, people in real life, online, and my therapist have suggested that I see women only as sexual objects. One thing that stuck with me was once here on /r9k/ I was talking about how it would be nice if I could just have a chubby woman to cuddle with, with no expectation of sex, and none of the commitment/responsibility of being her bf- just lying there intimately embracing. People in the thread told me that its very creepy, as if all I care about is a warm body next to me. Similarly to how I described how yesterday I told a woman at yoga I think she's very beautiful and wore a sexy outfit, that I objectified her as if I care about nothing more than her legs and ass.
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So my current challenge is trying to wrap my head around what the concept of objectification actually is? Is it real or myth? What is or is not objectification, and how to become a person that does not objectify women?
I'd love to hear you thoughts on this, so I can develop a better understanding and make the most of my therapy session next week knowing exactly what I want to work on.
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>>28574450
I don't really think it's a myth. It just means you're sociopathic about this one thing (women). It won't even be real sociopathy, you're just suppressing your feeling out of fear of some kind, This is my theory anyways, since I've heard the same thing.
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I think you're missing the reproductive aspect of sex.

we're not meant to imagine this much sex without raising children along with it. This is really what you're missing.
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also the commitment involved in being a "bf" is very different and imo unnatural compared to that of being a husband and father.
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>>28575085
What feeling am I suppressing?

Would solipsism be a better way to describe the phenomenon than sociopathy? Solipsism is a habit that many autistic people have, its not like we aren't capable of empathy, but its something we have to be reminded of, otherwise we tend to go about life as if everyone else is a non-playing character and are completely oblivious to how self centered our behavior is.
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>>28575103
Never wanting to have kids is one of many reasons I don't think I could ever bring myself to risk having sex no matter how much I adore the female form
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>>28575206
why not join a monastery then? No need to slave away in the modern wage life or sit alone, carrer/money/etc are only necessary evils if you have a family. if you're that committed to celibacy, you can actually do something great
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>>28575206
You basically have commitment issues, but aren't hot enough to get laid on the reg. I'm in the same position and it fucking sucks.
As about direct feeling maybe you've interacted with women in a negative way as a child. You're afraid being commited will make you vulnerable (which again makes sense to me but maybe not to the general population).
For me it was my overprotective mother and a shebeast of a grandma. They are both borderliners too. They aren't really bad people too, just fucked me up in this specific way.
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>>28574447
>cucked by your own sex drive.

Pathetic beta.
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>>28575264
The thing is that I am still extremely heterosexual despite not wanting to have intercourse. I was innately attracted to females long before I even knew what sex was, and this is the state I have now returned to. I don't think there is anything on this earth more pleasurable to the eyes and to the skin than beautiful female bodies. There is nothing I can do to change this, so just have to accept that. I love to look at women and hug them when given the opportunity, and how I long to cuddle with one. I'm sure its possibe to have a gf without having sex, sincr most women can get orgasm that way anyhow, and if she wants I can finger her g spot while kissing her and do tantric breathing meditations together that feel so much better than genital stimulation and leave you energized rather than depleted afterwards.
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>>28575323
They way I see it even if I was Chad, and wanted one gf to be exclusively loyal with, how could I possiblypossibly choose one? I don't believe in the soulmate fallacy, and have had the feeling of being in love enough times that I'm fully aware of how it can just come and go without warning, and no matter how attractive and adorable one women's looks and personality is, there will always be others who I will meet and feel more sense of connection to. Since I never had one before its difficult to even imagine what its like being tied down witha gf and not being open to new women opportunities and trusting she won't cuck me with chad and tyrone. At least never having a gf I will never be a cuck.
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>>28575546
you're right that soulmates and "true love" are bullshit

but that's why every civilization until the west for the past 150 years or so had arranged marriages. It was understood as a mutual contract of commitment including hardship and not about happiness all the time
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>>28575678
this was explained to me very well in MGTOW videos

But I never seen any MTOW content yet about men who want to be childfree and enjoy lots of cuddles
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