I don't mean to go full feminist here but why are all you guys on here so mysoginistic? Do you really think we owe you pussy for just existing?
>>28547479
>r9k is one person
This needs to stop. The cute anime girl posting should continue though.
>>28547479
neh,we just pissed that women want the 10 percent(they are either chad or a rich guy)
>>28547479
You don't owe robots your pussy by just existing. You owe Alpha/Omega men your pussy by just existing. Robots are bitter that they aren't Alpha or Omega and channel the hate onto women because hating Chad would be utterly meaningless.
>>28547479
half the shit here is satire and the other half is a sort of half-truth in observation of women having much more freedom and a broader, more forgiving social dynamic than compared to men
there's a lot of truth in men having bigger emotional tolls in life than women. men are more likely to not have dated into their 20's, men are more likely to drop out of school, go into any survey thread all the women have had more sex.
>>28547546
looking at what he said, if you wanna say "all you guys on here" before you call people mysoginists you're really jumping the gun. you don't owe pussy to anyone, but there's an entire shame/emasculation culture afflicting men that's very real and overlooked in lieu of a new media that favors exposure on women's social justice. we actually all want a world with less faggots.
>>28547479
No maaan it's just the ebin may mays t b q h w y f m.
I realize I'm not similar to most robots in this respect, but I don't hate women because they won't have sex with me. I couldn't care less about having sex with real women. I'm bisexual, I have essentially as little a chance to have sex with men (I'm really undesirable) as with women.
However, women are notorious liars, enjoy or are tolerant of relationship abuse, play the victim every time, can ruin any man's life at the drop of a hat, claim they're oppressed in the first world when they have it better than males there (while ignoring countries that -are- in need of feminism, e.g. the Middle Eastern ones), this is all off of the top of my head. It has nothing to do with "owing sex just for existing". Men do not do this nearly as often, at least on the basis of gender.
I've fucked 30+ women and I despise them. Success with your kind has nothing to do with being misogynistic, you dumb slut.
>>28547479
Women are cunts, yes we deserve pussy. There would be less school shootings of females just accepted their biological role in society and let us rail them.
Fucking slut.
Listen here cunt.
Just ignore me like you usually do. I don't even mean that in the snarky way, I fully accept that I can't just expect my desires to be met, but that doesn't mean I stop having them. I really, REALLY wish I could stop pining for puss. I wish it had an off switch, but it doesn't, so I'm gonna whine to the intellectual void that is /r9k/. Why you come here of all places for stimulating discussion is beyond me, but if you don't like it, you don't have to stay here.
Jesus fuck, woman.
>>28547479
considering that women are literally subhuman and inferior to men in every way yes, you owe us pussy for just existing because besides having children or being a fucktoy your existence has literally zero purpose
no one owes me anything
but most women are whores who will cheat and backstab men for sex and this undeniable
Not everyone on /r9k/ is like that. The people who usually hate women, are into red pill/alpha male garbage, or love calling everyone a cuck are usually compensating for their low self-esteem, self-consciousness, or low self-confidence, and it just so happens that most people on this board suffer from that.
>feminist thinks male robots hate women.
>feminist never read or instantly forget all the reasons or facts about women to justify it.
>>28547872
Women are horrible to us in real life. Good work pretending it isn't the case. It's natural to hate someone who hated you first.
men don't owe you anything either. remember that when you're broke and alone at 40
>>28547850
There is an off switch
They're called androgen blockers
>b-but muh masculinity
>>28547479
It's more like I hate myself because I lost the genetic lotto but it's my fault I just don't have the hustle to overcome my genetic inferiority
>>28547908
This is exactly what I mean. People on this board are unsuccessful with women so they blame them and turn themselves into the victim. It's fucking retarded.
>>28547479
do you really think we owe you money, time and resources for access to said pussy?
yes?
then theres a give and take, a DEAL if you were
you have been asking/demanding more, and more, AND MORE whilst providing less and less
>>28547946
It goes beyond them not just having sex with us. Women treat unattractive men like garbage.
>>28547992
Supply and demand
>>28547926
Honestly. I don't know why some of these guys don't just remove their nuts like that one anon last month.
>>28547908
It's all in your head. Not talking to you =/= hatred
>>28547891
All your facts are just "red pill" pseudoscience
>>28547479
You say "we" as if you're female, proove it, proof it even. Explain.
>>28547479
Robots dislike women due to female hypocrisy and entitlement. Robots also dislike women because women hate robots for the sins of existing and being unattractive.
>>28548070
Forgot my attention whoring pic hehe
>>28547479
That's fucking it. I'm sick of this shit. I just don't understand what you fucking dumb roasties don't understand. "Why are you so mysoginistic xDDD" If you stopped trying to ignore the many facts and justifications robot's have posted maybe your fucking subhuman brains might understand why robot's hate woman. I swear you roastie's only defense is "we don't own men pussy" then you go and complain about not getting chad's dick. I just don't understand how you woman are so blind to the facts it's like someone giving numerous real reason why they don't like you and you responding with "k cool but I don't understand why you don't like me"
We guys basically have "pussies" built-in that we can use. Our foreskins.
But loads of us have had them cut off.
It's a built-in vagina, our vagina, which was stolen from us, anon.
Stolen.
>>28548070
>Not talking to you =/= hatred
That's pretty much exactly what it means tho.. it means they find you unpleasant.
>>28547479
no
pls be my gf
>>28548070
>All your facts are just "red pill" pseudoscience
>facts are just pseudoscience
Full feminism has taken effect, this one is beyond saving, just like every one here.
>>28547479
>mother left before entering first grade
>bullied in school
>female classmate tries to "help" and becomes my only...
>ditches and then goes after Chad
>pitches in with the bullies
I just want your kind to die, women were a mistake.
>why don't you just cut off your balls?
>>28548318
Had entirely the opposite experience - without delving into specifics, men rejected me, women were always kind to me. Why don't you get out of your own asshole for a minute and realise that subjective experiences aren't a valid basis for blanket-hating 3.5 billion people?
>>28548373
Why does your subjective experience trump his subjective experience?
>>28548373
>Why don't you get out of your own asshole for a minute and realise that subjective experiences aren't a valid basis for
Who cares about objective truth when it doesn't play out in actuality. You can speak nicities all you want, but when the person you're speaking to hasn't experienced them themselves, why should they care? Why shouldn't their opinion be based on their own experience?
>>28548401
I don't use my subjective experience fuel a hatred of men. Despite my experiences, indeed, I don't hate men. Wasn't that point pretty obvious? Are you being intentionally dense?
>>28547479
>Do you really think we owe you pussy for just existing?
That's basically what it revolves around. It's the same deal with lower class workers who believe in socialism and redistribution of wealth. They somehow think they're entitled to having the same amount of money as someone who works his ass off throughout life, and whose entire life is their career.
Disgusting individuals. Day of the rope can't come too fast for these subhumans.
>>28548432
>Who cares about objective truth when it doesn't play out in actuality.
Stopped reading there. If it's 'objective truth', then of course it happens it reality for fuck's sake.
excuse me, but the anime picture in the op led me to believe there would be further anime pictures posted; i've unfortunately found that not to be the case. please rectify this injustice
>>28548493
And if that reality isn't that person's individual experience?
>>28547479
>why are all you guys on here so mysoginistic
>all
>100%
anon if you make a statement absolute it only takes one counterfactual to disprove you baka
>>28548373
>aren't valid
My mother fucking abandoned me before I went into first grade, my only female friend backstabbed me and played with my emotions.
Not to mention other times, when females just simply wanted to undermine me and pull me down. Women are fucking sadistic creatures with no empathy.
>>28548143
I hate my parents, im not even jewish. Just fucking why.
>>28548471
>They somehow think they're entitled to having the same amount of money as someone who works his ass off throughout life, and whose entire life is their career.
A lot of very poor people work their asses off and are still poor, and a lot of rich people were born rich, or got rich by hurting other people.
If you don't admit this, you're a liar.
>>28548580
>A lot of very poor people work their asses off and are still poor
Get education, get a better job, learn how to properly manage your finances.
Those who luck out through inheritance are just that; lucky. You are unlucky. Life's not fair, deal with it you fucking crybaby. I've lived my entire youth in poverty wearing garbage clothing but you don't seem me complaining about it because I'm not a pussy like you, and through hard work am working my way into the middle class. Get off your ass.
>>28548568
http://i.4cdn.org/gif/1462687056026.webm
Just the thought of what theoretically could have been kills me every day.
>>28548533
Then 'get your head out of your asshole', because your subjective experiences are not indicative of the way everybody with a vagina behaves. It's a sweeping generalisations, it's quite obviously an invalid basis for drawing any conclusion about all women, everywhere.
>>28548557
>muh subjective experiences, the rest of those 3.5 billion people who I've never met must all be exactly the same. Nothing changes whatsoever as a result of their subjective experiences, race, religion, culture, etc., only my subjective experiences and the ones I can find smattered around an anonymous imageboard are indicative of truth.
It's truly impossible to sympathise if you lash out at everybody who has a vagina because a few people who had a vagina were nasty to you.
>>28548471
>he thinks his wealthy lords and masters actually work for their money
>>28548694
Typical socialist retard response. I really do hope you'll get hit by a bus and become one less blight on society to worry about.
>>28548627
>justgotocollegebro.webm
College is really only possible for people who have parents who planned when they were having children. If your parents were just degenerates who didn't use condoms you won't be going to college. You will only be able to flip burgers forever. Also when your parents get too old to take care of themselves you'll be expected to take care of them because poor people are still dumb enough to take religion seriously
>>28548627
>Life's not fair
Oh, really?
Then why do rich people think they're entitled to their money? After all, life isn't fair.
>>28548672
So basically, your own experiences shouldn't shape your own opinions. Okay.
>>28548708
They love people like you. They don't even have to take your money. You happily give it to them for the privilege of serving such noble and hardworking people.
>>28548720
Went to trade school, not college.
>>28548722
>Why do rich people think they;re entitled to their money?
Because they're rich. Being lucky about it isn't fair either, but it's in their favor rather than against. And if that isn't why they're rich, it's because they worked hard to earn it.
Fuck off, commie scum.
>>28548748
And you too. Fuck off to Venezuela.
I deserve a cute gf for suffering so much for so little. If Chad gets pumo and dump daily for nothing I should have an opportunity for romantic love I want to feel her I want to cuddle her I want a cute girl to wake up next to me amd say "I love you." But you don't care about that because you're a normie cunt so fuck you fuck you fuck off you God damn animal
>>28548738
Your experiences do NOT reflect the world's reality. The underlying assumption is 'all women are therefore like that', and it's simply a sweeping generalisation to conclude that from merely your own experience. How 'all women are' is itself a ridiculous concept to attempt to quantify and to anybody besides your peers here you appear ridiculous.
>>28548801
Experinces are created by interaction with reality dumb fuck
>>28547479
Because people keep coming to my boards and shaming me for being shamed, even though I never tried to tell anybody else how to live their lives.
>>28548801
but all women are like that, or at least most of them. why bother trying to find the one who isn't like that and is incapable of love when i can lift, gain status, learn game and become a complete asshole to get most women?
the red pill is undeniable truth
>>28548773
>Because they're rich.
Wait.
You're saying, "they think they deserve to be rich BECAUSE they are rich"?
Or did you mean something else?
>Fuck off, commie scum.
You kind of suck at having a conversation. Not too bright, are you?
I'm a dude and I can't even deal with this board. I'm 6'4", have a career and attractive, but socially awkward as fuck. The funniest thing about being bi is that I can get dick at a moments notice, pussy not so much. Just fire up Grindr and suddenly there's 20+ dudes blowing up my phone, not so with the ladies, it's more work.
You're dealing with spergy antisocial males who can't into social situations. These goons have locked themselves into this echo chamber of redpill and reepositing. It's a feedback loop, a self depreciating feedback loop.
The truth is, these goons don't deserve pussy. They deserve their loneliness and to die in cold NEET government funded bachelor suites. Because they couldn't be assed to see others as people, not just holes for dicks.
I'm sick of this place. It's cold, self pitying and devoid of any emotion. Just anger and trying to justify their own inability on Chad/Stacey abstractions. Grow a pair, love someone and let them hurt you. Be naive, you autistic fucks know everything that's why it's working for you.
I'm bitter, goddamn where are my brushes
>>28548865
he's doj, he's a white knight undertale avatar fagging pedophile tripfag
don't engage
>>28548865
I'm saying that, because they're already rich, they're entitled to their money. That's how the world works. You are entitled to what you already own, nothing else.
Work for the things you want, fuckwad.
>>28548878
Then why the fuck are you on here?
>hurr durr dis board is sexhust auuund mean
Why be here then? Go away.
>>28548878
>it's another handsome autist post
>>28548773
prime example of some middle class white boi whos never faced adversity and seen one too many tai lopez videos about working hard for your success and knowledge
>>28548878
>I'm a dude and I can't even deal with this board. I'm 6'4", have a career and attractive, but socially awkward as fuck. The funniest thing about being bi is that I can get dick at a moments notice, pussy not so much. Just fire up Grindr and suddenly there's 20+ dudes blowing up my phone
>6'4", have a career and attractive
Gee I wonder why
>>28548318
Ako a cute!
>>28548878
>it's an "I'm on here as well but better than all of you" episode
>the next episode will be an "I'm just here to feel better about myself and laugh at you losers" epsiode
>>28547479
but I don't want your pussy you idiot I just want you to stop taking advantage of men.
>>28547479
Actually all women owe men and all men owe women, that is nature.
>>28548829
>Experinces are created by interaction with reality
Experiences are singular reflections on a infinitesimally small sample of reality through the flawed, biased, and blinkered lens of one person. Even if you had 100,000 of these from many people, which thankfully you do not, it's an insufficient sample size to draw conclusions about the nature of all women everywhere. It's a wonder how you can end up here while exaggerating your individual importance so greatly.
>>28548858
>but all women are like that, or at least most of them
>redpill
What a shame that you can't appreciate even basic logic. There's no sense or rationality in confirming a ridiculous stereotype from a few limited experiences, while ignoring all those that fly contrary to yours.
>>28547479
I'm a kissless virgin. I don't hate women so much as I'm unable to fathom them. I've accepted I'll never find one that likes me (honestly, I'd ok with just marrying one, the idea of casual sex is somewhat repulsive to me) so I just don't both interacting with them. I have no idea how I'd change my current situation, I can barely handle conversations with anyone.
I think a lot of people can lash out because women are unable or unwilling to do anything the current state of social relations, nobody cares or speaks for the lonely men in society, especially feminists, many of whom go out of their way to mock and belittle men, so the whole misogyny/misandry thing cuts both ways.
>>28548975
Women don't consider non-Chads men. If you are less than 8/10 you are subhuman.
>>28547479
Nobody owes anyone anything, but a conversation would be nice. Normies are still under the impression we're after "pussy", but all we want is a partner who would share a mutual feeling of attachment with us.
Yet you still claim here that you don't throw your pussy at us, but yet you do so whenever Chad thundercock is around. They deserve your meat curtains because he's genetically superior and gets your shallow primitive brain in the mood to be a one night stand. Funny that you call us misogynist but you love being used by these brutes who couldn't care less about you after they have fucked you, and realized you're not that great and giving head, and you let that slide, just like your disgusting black hole of a vagina that vacuums cocks as its natural state of existing. We hate women for a bunch of logical and well thought reasons, we don't hate women because they are females.
The reason we get shit for is because we're ugly. The media has portrait us as the bad guys so the idea is deeply embedded into your stupid little brain that we're the bad guys. We're "misogynist", but the reality is that none of that is true. You come here to anger us, to make us feel like shit when we're already secluded in this virtual space we spent our lives on. We're your punching bag to make yourself feel better. Now fuck off my board you fucking normal piece of degrading degenerate desensitize putrid STD no good bitch of a female and back to the kitchen were you like being humiliated with the semen of a million men.
>>28549009
>but all we want is a partner who would share a mutual feeling of attachment with us
This translates to wanting to pussy all the same.
>>28549017
Erica's mother still watches your posts.
>>28548995
except the red pill is heavily science based, it's huge on evolutionary theory
you're just denying it because you're a woman and you don't want to take accountability for your own gender's nature
>>28548995
Here let me spell it out for you
MOST WOMEN ARE THE SAME ESPECIALLY HERE IN THE US AND THEY ARE ALL SHIT
in this shit country I could move from my shit town to another it will be fhe same. And even if (which is likely) that I am a shit person then it solves nothing as either way my current situation doesn't change. What the fuck are you even doing here normie?
>>28547479
I hate women because my mom was an abusive bitch and thanks to that I realized what all women are really like, they don't care about anyone but themselves, so why should anyone care about them?
>>28549017
not him, but why are you here?
>>28549009
>but all we want is a partner who would share a mutual feeling of attachment with us.
>le get out roasties! xD
Here's a question, why is this board's culture geared towards turning all women away, then? You can't sure think that at least some of them, if not most of them, aren't here for similar reasons and may want such things with others. They too may be ugly, fat, or otherwise conventionally unattractive. If you're capable of overlooking the opposite side of that media brainwashing you suggest exists, then why is this board not more embracing of women?
>>28547479
>Do you really think we owe you pussy for just existing?
Yes. If I put in a decade to make the world objectively better for everybody I deserve a warm pussy.
>>28549009
Yikes I've never seen a more severe case of rump rustled in my life
>>28549017
No it doesn't m8 it means I want a cute gf to love me whole thing not being based off sex but true romantic love
>>28549093
Because you don't understand anything. Your post proves this
>>28549058
If she has issues with me, she can talk to me directly through Facebook.
>>28549085
Because this is the least shitty topicless board and I like using a topicless board.
>>28549119
That's not how relationships tend to work, though. That's just a Disney fairytale delusion.
>>28549093
>Here's a question, why is this board's culture geared towards turning all women away, then?
Because women don't really want us and all they do here is mock us, laugh at us, completely fail to empathize with us, and only make it about them. They don't care about us. We aren't Chads. They don't want us.
>They too may be ugly, fat, or otherwise conventionally unattractive
These girls also don't want us. We are rejected by bottom of the barrel women. Even Chad fucks them when he's having a dry spell or when he's dared by his Chad pals, and this inflates their sense of SMV. Even ugly, autistic girls don't want us.
>>28547479
It's a side effect of the long and arduous process of undoing all the mainstream media programming. Sorry for trying to see you as equals.
>>28549093
>They too may be ugly, fat, or otherwise conventionally unattractive
And they still expect and demand Chad while spitting on men equally as ugly, fat, or unattractive.
>>28549093
Because all the women herr are attention whores who come here with muh gender being the first thing they state and over half of them have a bf or are in some kind of relationahip. If they could actually relate to the general athmosphere then stay but don't go around expecting to be treated like a queen by thirsty weebs because you have a pussy. Pure cancer
>>28547825
they are playing their biological role
by fucking Chad and not you
I know it's hard to accept you are a failed evolutionary line
>>28549093
>why is this board not more embracing of women?
People have had different experiences. /r9k/ isn't one person. When will you understand this?
>>28549064
>except the red pill is heavily science based, it's huge on evolutionary theory
What I've read has been largely bastardisations of 'evolutionary theory', mangled and founded on countless faulty assumptions about human nature and present reality which aren't accurate. If you disagree, I'd love to hear differently.
>you're just denying it because you're a woman and you don't want to take accountability for your own gender's nature
I'm actually not a female. Sorry for being the exception to your lazy worldview categorisations.
>>28549080
Here let me spell it out for you
MOST WOMEN ARE THE SAME ESPECIALLY HERE IN THE US AND THEY ARE ALL SHIT
That's your experience. Mine is entirely the opposite. Again, sweeping generalisations are ridiculous, so don't make them. You can say 'all the women I met were shit', but you can't say 'all the women everywhere are shit', nor 'all the women I met were shit, and so all of them are probably like that'.
>>28549165
You know shit's fucked when the women who we aren't attracted to but we want someone to be with us and think we have a chance because they're ugly also doesn't want anything to do with us
>>Sorry for trying to see you as equals.
>common advice by roasties and normies is to treat women like people, equals
>women would rather be treated like children, dogs, property because they crave alpha men who dominate them and are superior to them
lel
>>28549124
Then I embrace death when I grow a pair or virtual reality
For now NORMIES FUCK OFF THIS BOARD JESUS FUCK WHY ARE THERR ALWAYS SO MANH NORMIES DIE DIE DIE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>28549113
So what, it doesn't have a right to be here?
>>28549172
And I am playing my evolutionary role by coming on /r9k/ until I gather up the courage to unload on these bitches offspring
>>28547479
No but women shouldn't be rewarded for being sluts. If a woman isn't going to give up sex them she better have not carelessly given away her virginity. Whether she accepts it or not, the moment she separates from the guy she lost it to, she becomes used goods.
>>28549009
>They deserve your meat curtains because he's genetically superior and gets your shallow primitive brain in the mood to be a one night stand
BTFO
>>28549191
Can we not use past experinces that are consistent to predict future experiences? That's not ridiculous that's the same as being catious around fucking niggers and meth addicts
>>28549250
You just don't understand pleasure.
>owe me pussy
No, thank you.
It's difficult for you to understand, but there are other matters in the mix.
Your kind are unpleasant, unintelligent, unethical, etc. to a fault, and you turn everything you touch to shit.
I want you to all be summarily executed, except for a select few kept as broodmares.
>>28548070
>>28548106
Don't use pic from tumblr and don't involve Persona in this.
>>28549288
>Can we not use past experinces that are consistent to predict future experiences?
That depends on a few factors - I suppose namely, what can and cannot be reasonably assumed.
If you go to a pizza place five times and each time you get shitty pizzas, you can cancel out the unlikely prospect that the same inexperienced cook make all of them. Rather, you can reasonably assume it's something about the recipe, the way the establishment's workers are ordered to make pizzas, that you don't like. Hell, you can also clarify this with the establishment, thus making it verifiable and thereby credible.
Can you do that with women, with people? I think it's quite obvious you can't. People have such wildly different experiences and upbringings, it'd be hard to assume with accuracy about those things unless you had some way of narrowing down whether that same trend would be visible - for example, you might try to safely assume that women who have recently had multiple sexual partners tend to be quite promiscuous. It might be an incorrect assumption though - possibly, that woman is reeling from abuse, she has been prostituted, she simply became unlucky with the type of men who she got together with, such behaviours are promoted by her culture, etc. With humans, there are too many factors, too many variables, too many vactors and, frankly, it's too important, when you're talking about hating half of the world then I think it's pretty off to make such assumptions.
>>28548672
>subjective experiences
That and the countless tales from this site, Reddit, the internet in general and even feminist news outlets who admit that modern women are completely narcissistic
Women were created to serve men.
>>28549466
>Experiences are singular reflections on a infinitesimally small sample of reality through the flawed, biased, and blinkered lens of one person. Even if you had 100,000 of these from many people, which thankfully you do not, it's an insufficient sample size to draw conclusions about the nature of all women everywhere. It's a wonder how you can end up here while exaggerating your individual importance so greatly.
Will just post this again.
>>28548878
Ha ha, you're a faggot.
>>28549505
Oh and don't forget the statistics.
I'd post some but I have none saved. I'm sure other robots have em.
>>28549463
Yes you can do that with people. Sterotypes ezist for a reason and that's because a majority acts in such a way. And with today's world women are closer to hivemind here in the US than ever before.
>>28548878
>Because they couldn't be assed to see others as people, not just holes for dicks.
Whoa, what the fuck?
How do you go from THIS:
>You're dealing with spergy antisocial males who can't into social situations.
to
>>Because they couldn't be assed to see others as people, not just holes for dicks.
Being socially awkward, that is feeling uncomfortable and not easily connecting with people, has nothing to do with not viewing other people as people. If anything I see everyone else as normal and functional and myself as a lesser person. I think that's true for many robots.
I certainly see other people as people, but I can't relate to them well. I can't easily get on the save "wavelength" and anticipate them and their expectations/desires of me.
There is a disconnect. I feel like a piece is missing from me. It's not a lack of empathy though. I feel for people, I care about them, but how one gets passed personal barriers is beyond me. I can't even let other people who try get close to me. I just don't know how.
>>28549620
No he and I view women as people just as very terrible people that wouldn't help if we were just randomly injured life or death because they're souless cunts
>>28549199
1.laughter
2.anger
3.acceptance
>>28547946
>unsuccessful with women
dank strawman friendo, his comment had nothing to do with "success".
>>28548493
It's a good thing you stopped reading there, otherwise you might've understood what he was saying.
>>28547479
because women treat other men better than me for things that are out of my control like my face, my height, my voice, etc. The fact that you all are attracted to chad while we have a wide range of preferences (just look at all the threads here, you have shit ranging from pedos to guys with obese fetishes) makes me want to literally kill myself
fuck you and the chad you rode in on
>>28549463
>it'd be hard to assume with accuracy about those things
The same can be said of people in the throes of heavy meth addiction, too many variables to know for sure. That doesn't mean it's a good idea to talk to them or be around them in the first place.
