Why is it that a lot of men want to eat stinky, dirty, hairy pussy, lick armpits, suck toes, clean dirty feet with their tongues, eat ass, rim a girl clean, do anal, eat a pussy out during a period, get peed on, and so on, but girls just want a clean man who will have normal sex with them, preferably a little rough?
Great question, honestly. I can't wait to hear the theories presented.
Femanons are encouraged to contribute.
There does seem to be something of a dichotomy on this. I don't quite understand it myself. Someone care to explain?
>>28477557
>>28477548
I'm glad others have noticed this strange trend. I have no ideas personally. Maybe since I've never become very acquainted with a female I am mistaken in assuming they are more tame than males, but it sure seems like it.
>>28477519
>Women caring about sex in the first place.
Their main priority in life is getting money for resources, sex is far more important for men and of course that results in all these kind of fetishes.
There are plenty of women out there with depraved fantasies. But basically I think it's because men are pornography addicts. Pornography leads to weird fetishes because you're always chasing something more extreme as you become accustomed to the old thing. I think the more interesting question is why men are pornography addicts. To some extent I think men have stronger sex drives and in particular a stronger attraction to strange women (as opposed to women they know), and also are more able to be attracted purely based on appearance, without knowing anything about the person. All of these things together make pornography addiction more of a thing for men.
>>28477601
That's true, but I have watched porn for a long time. I stopped a year ago, but I never noticed any increasingly weird fetishes. I never gained any fetishes from porn, although I do have some. It's odd.
Any other theories floating around about this? It can't just be porn.
>>28477636
Having watched porn for all of my sexual life, I can tell you that my fetishes were almost certainly caused by it. In most cases I can specifically come to that conclusion because there is no other way that I would have been introduced to that fetish. But my fetishes do not define my sexuality, and I happily have vanilla sex with my GF.
>>28477704
women are degenerates too, men are just more outspoken about their fetishes.
>>28477747
Fair enough, but I honestly think the number of people who's fetishes aren't really affected by porn is higher. If you aren't a hardcore addict who's watching hours a day, it's hard to get a fetish. You can discover or be introduced to them in porn, but it takes a lot to learn them. It's likely there's a lot of preexisting subconscious interest in a fetish before people "get" it from porn.
>>28477757
Maybe but I've never heard of a woman wanting to drink piss, eat shit, or even suck dick for her own fetish/pleasure.
>>28477757
I don't know. Men seem to have fetishes ranging way off into the bizarre and even dangerous. Women think even normie-tier foot fetish is weird. Some of them have rape fantasies or they like to be spanked/choked during sex but that's about it.
>>28477804
If you haven't heard of a woman who wants to suck dick then you don't know women. One of my exes specifically had a semen fetish and was really into giving blow jobs.
>>28477838
Exactly what I was trying to say in OP. Over 50% of women have rape fantasies and upwards of 70% admit to liking rough sex. Men, on the other hand, have a much larger range of odd acts. Also, more than 60% of women watch porn, so we can't chalk it all up to men watching more porn, even with a predisposition to addiction due to high sex drive.
>>28477839
You're right, I don't know women. That seems like a lie girls tell though. I've never met a woman who I got somewhat acquainted with (enough to ask personal questions) who didn't say they "loved sucking dick". But once I pried a bit, they admitted it's something they say to attract guys. I'm sure there are some girls who like it- not nearly as many as the ones that proclaim it though.
Basically because men are capable of love and women aren't.
>>28477869
I know that this ex of mine wasn't lying. She was legitimately super turned on by it. She was a very honest person and she talked at length about her fetishes.
Also, just because 60% of women watch porn (which, by the way, is not very much) does not mean that those women watch porn in the same volume that men do.
>>28477894
Go back to wizardchan, retard. People are trying to have a halfway-intelligent discussion.
>>28477933
Ok, keep believing that a creature who only understands power dynamics and wants you to be her master and slap her around or she'll lose all respect for you and treat you like subhuman dirt has the emotional, spiritual and intellectual capability to love, sounds like you're the smartest person in the world, have you tried contacting Nasa for the Noble Price?
>>28477967
Seriously, take your verbal diarrhea to wizardchan. No one cares about your delusional ravings.
In all the threads I have been to on this subject, I have yet to see someone come up with a really good explanation for it. It could be there is just some fundamental difference between men and women on this playing field linked to hormones, aggression, or possibly how we are raised in society. It's an odd thing to be sure.
>>28478034
What do you find lacking in this explanation? >>28477601
women are boring.
men's sexual fantasies can include everything that exists.
women usually don't have sexual fantasies. when they do, it's either "i like being tied up" or "i like pretend rape".
>>28478031
Ok, what's your explanation then?
>>28478102
This is my explanation: >>28477601
>>28478143
Oh you're the anti-porn troll, nevermind, carry on. Haven't seen you in a while.
In my own experience, I've noticed that when I was younger I had a mental tendency to project the idea that the girls that I liked would somehow naturally taste or smell good, even though this went against all common sense. I think a part of this is that the average male today is entirely bewitched by women using various hair and hygiene products that are all perfumed. Even my experiences of my own mother are associated with perfume and smelling nice, even though I also know that when she wasn't wearing any of that stuff, she naturally had human odours.
When it comes to porn, there is absolutely no odour involves and I think this is a big aspect of why I've wanted to do otherwise obviously disgusting things like eating a girl's ass - it's because in porn you see a perfectly clean asshole so the idea of pleasuring her by licking it seems nice. Same with urination and so on - in porn I'm not forced to actually smell how repulsive it is, so the psychological aspect of humiliation and submission ramp the pleasure up, even though in reality I would NOT enjoy being a real human toilet.
There's a counterveiling force at work too, though. Actual bodily odours, even ones that aren't really 'nice' have a huge impact on sexuality. I'm sure if I'd ever had a real girlfriend, I would have become 'bonded' to her particular odours and tastes, even the somewhat bad ones. I know that women feel the same way, many love the smell of a man's groin - not the smell of a poor hygiene, unwashed fatty with a bad diet - but the musky odour of a health guy. I also know that some girls LOVE the taste and texture of cum, while others don't.
>>28477519
Probably because they have one of those problems (dirty feet, stinky pits etc).
>>28477912
Watch porn regularly, whereas men is only 80% or so. Something like 98% of both sexes has seen porn at least once though.
>>28477894
I'm not going to dismiss your argument like the other anon, I made this thread for actual discussion so you have a right to say what you want, and you make some compelling arguments. Honestly in my experience women just haven't been capable of the same depth as men, so I buy into what you're saying a bit.
>>28478081
True. I notice that extends to their hobbies as well- without depth, always very surface.
It's worth noting the majority of women hover very closely to 100 IQ, where as for men there is a much more broad spectrum. Women just tend to be much more samey when it comes to hobbies, intelligence, interests, and what they find attractive..
Girls have gross fetishes, too, they just don't post about them on 4chan. They're on FanFiction/Ao3/Amazon writing stories about mpreg/knotting/cum inflation/alpha rape and all sorts of other depraved shit. Part of it is that women tend to get off more on the written word than on visual images like men. I have female friends who seem totally normal but the contents of their Kindle disgusts the fuck out of me.
Of course I'm not into that sick shit. All I enjoy is some good wholesome sissy pegging.
>>28477601
>I think the more interesting question is why men are pornography addicts
Men are physically wired to be more visual and respond much stronger to visual sexual stimulai then women.
Women on the other hand in general have about 40% stronger sense of smell then men do.
>>28478243
This is actually my first time posting about porn on this board. I don't actually have strong opinions about porn - I watch it regularly myself - but I certainly think it creates fetishes.
>>28478283
They shouldn't be embarrassed, both of those things are wonderful.
>>28478263
This is a very good observation- while porn might not be the reason when it comes to addiction and "gaining fetishes", it would make sense that any preexisting interest in a fetish is stoked on further by the separation of any negative elements through a screen.
I do enjoy all of my own disgusting scents as well, and I think men generally do like their own stenches, which may also contribute to them projecting that love for stench onto a woman.
>>28478303
>All I enjoy is some good wholesome sissy pegging.
Wise words, anon.
>>28478303
yep I had a black gf that was filthy, she was into facesitting and humiliation, she was dominant and she would hit me whenever I came because she'd get angry I had to take time to recover.
I miss her fat disgusting ass dearly
>>28478263
I can tell you that I like the smell of my GF's (hygenic) pussy. I think it's natural to be attracted to the opposite sex's sexual odors.
>>28478303
They're not nearly as widespread. There is a wikifeet that is commonly used by men, whereas the majority of women get their fancies tickled by 50 Shades of Grey.
Let me put it this way: I think that you'd be hardpressed to find a guy who doesn't have one or two embarrassing fetishes whereas, with a woman, maybe 50% have one at most.
This is all just guessing from my own experience and research prior to making this thread, so I'm not saying you're wrong at all.
>>28478324
There's a troll that does this weird SJW anti-porn schtick that always begins like this, it accuses people of being misogynists and it basically ends up in equating guys masturbating to porn with women fucking random people. Sorry if I jumped the gun!
>>28478060
I don't believe this divergence comes singly from male addiction to pornography though. I had fetishes since before access to the Web was even commonplace, and though Internet pornography hardly made me less depraved, I feel like men and women have different kinds of paraphilial psychopathology. Men's just tend to be perceived as more "extreme" I think. As I said before, it appears to be one aspect in which men and women (of the vast majority) are fundamentally separate from each other.
>>28478327
Not in middle-highschool. I used to be bullied because I didn't know how to use deodorant properly so it left a yellow stain on my white cloth. But I realized my mistake and bought a new cloth. It only lasted for 3 days though (the bullying)
IMO this is just a classic 4chan lack of perspective and failing to realize how narrow of a view the community has. From what I've heard, being fuckbuddies with a girl for more than a month will result in them exposing some of their weird fetishes. They're just much more reserved about them from what I hear.
>>28478367
>Let me put it this way: I think that you'd be hardpressed to find a guy who doesn't have one or two embarrassing fetishes whereas, with a woman, maybe 50% have one at most.
Then again, thinking that wanting to be punched in the tits, choked directly with a cock or "just" having a guy's hands wrapped around your throat as you call him "daddy" ISN'T embarrassing says quite a lot about how male and female sexuality is treated doesn't it.
>>28478404
I think this is a good point. I would add to it that the posters on this board are also not a representative sample of men at large. I think that most normal men, who have GFs and regular sex, are not as sexually depraved as 4chan posters.
>>28478402
Glad you fixed it.
>>28478406
Good point, but I say the male fetishes are odd in comparison because it's completely understandable why a girl wants rough sex- in the past rape was an incredibly prevalent reproductive strategy, and therefore women became conditioned to respond well to similar situations through evolution, and also it shows the strength and physical power of the man, conducive to the offspring's survival.
Smelling a girl's stinky feet isn't as understandable from an evolutionary perspective.
>>28478404
But even if you look at surveys and statistics, the majority of women have really only one or two fetishes, usually rape fantasies and rough sex. The fuckbuddies with crazy fetishes example is completely anecdotal, and of course the people who are willing to be FWB and sleep around are going to have more depraved and plentiful kinks/fetishes.
>>28477519
Because men are degenerates and women are not.
>>28478478
>evopysch bullshit
>>28478538
I hate to meme you but that's not an argument in any way. Put some thought into your posts.
>>28478568
I'm sleepy, just google evopsych and pick any argument against it/that debunks it. It's like a spherecuck demanding thought put into opposing arguments.
>>28478635
All I see are numerous pages discussing all the different aspects of its relation to modern behaviors with hundreds of sources. If you want to debunk an argument/statement I've made, you're welcome to do it but don't be the tumblr girl who says "it's not my job to educate you" after making a claim against generally accepted concepts.
>>28478713
>generally accepted concepts.
Yeah like mice being spontaneously generated from old rags and grains.
>>28478774
???
Again, make an argument and elaborate/explain yourself or you might as well be shitposting. Why take the time to post if you don't actually want to say anything?
>>28477519
Fem here, I love when guys want to do all those nasty things with me. I would never ask for it though (except anal) because it has to be something theyre wanting to do.
Current BF is a total dog, I love it. Most of my ex's havnt been, that's okay too.
As for my side, I've licked a bum before to see what it was like and it wasn't my thing. It's never been an issue though.
>>28478865
That was a perfectly legitimate scientific concept at one point in time, and the majority of the esteemed scholars believed in it.
Don't you think that positioning yourself as the ultimate arbiter at the end of history is a bit presumptuous?
>>28478920
So are you a total slut who is "liberated" in her sexuality or just a normal girl? How many guys have you slept with? This is important because it will help add some confirmation to an argument we were having earlier.
>>28478923
I never said I was the ultimate arbiter. Back then that may have been their most well evidenced position with their old belief system. They have updated it obviously and we have marched far forward. Just because mistakes were made in the past does not mean they are being made RIGHT NOW. Of course I would be open to new evidence and refutation, but when there are hundreds, maybe thousands of studies supporting it using the scientific method, and you won't even bother to make an actual argument or provide refutation other than "people have been wrong before so you are wrong now CHECKMATE".
You are just "arguing" off of fallacies and "gotcha" statements and when I ask for an argument or evidence you say you're too tired to provide it. You're still not saying anything of substance.
>>28478538
>>28478635
>God isn't real
>But creationism is totally true, but only for humans!
>The mind is a magical thing not formed by selection
>>28479488
>God isn't real
>thus morality isn't a thing
>The mind is shaped by magical evolution and we have no free will
>let's just act like animals science supports it we're just chemicals XD
>>28479028
Im about 30 and I've been with 4 guys (all for over a year). I'd say im on the more conservative side. Believe in bonded relationships.
Stinky female feet and asses are a huuuuugge turn on
>>28479582
You say your current bf is a total dog. What kinds of stuff do you do with him?
I'm a guy and only want vanilla sex so it's definitely not just women. I think you guys just watch too much porn.
I don't know why I like feet or why guys tend to have fetishes and women don't, but what I will say is that I wholeheartedly disagree with that guys opinion on Kristen Stewart and most of his ideas of what makes a foot appealing.
Her feet are so average and bland looking and that seems to be the case with most of the celebrity women that have the best foot fetish followings.
In my opinion, women should have big feet and long toes with large and well taken care of nailbeds. Toe rings are also really nice. I do agree with his stance on french pedicures though. I think they are stupid and extremely difficult to pull off. I've maybe seen two or three women it looks good on and that is combining those I've seen on the Internet and real life.
High heels are also trash. They damage the feet and don't look good in my opinion. The best footwear for a woman are some sandals or birkenstocks.
Celebs whose feet I fap to the most:
>Jessica Michibata
>Anri Sugihara (disproves his "Japanese girls stubby toes theory")
>Krysten Ritter
>Eva Mendes
>Shilpa Shetty
>Sarah Palin
>Lauren Silverman
i think what's more likely is that guys are just way more open about their fetishes and fantasies. even on the internet with anonymity girls don't like talking about their deepest darkest fantasies because they'll just be labeled a disgusting whore
just think about it, some guys have a fetish for pissing on girls, but girls also have fetishes for being pissed on. which seems worse to you and more degenerate? getting pissed on is obviously most degenerate. a lot of fetishes for girls involve submissive stuff like that
>>28480658
>Not liking K Stew's glorious peds.
le edgiest footfag. I have a fondness for Sarah Palin's feet too though.
>>28477595
>Their main priority in life is getting money for resources, sex is far more important for men and of course that results in all these kind of fetishes.
you are a true beta, thanks for trying.
