>yfw you realized free will was a fucking illusion
The most fundamental interactions in the universe are not deterministic.
It isn't. Only autistic edgelords think otherwise.
>>28442413
>the brain is quantum!!
>>28442423
well, science kinda can't explain consciousness or qualia, especially the reason why we aren't philosophical zombies
Free will being an illusion or real doesn't have any impact on life for in either cases you don't know what will happen next.
If there was no free will then you would act under the illusion that you do have it. Pointless to think about, in my opinion.
>>28442423
He's right though. Nigga.
>>28442423
>The fundamental interactions occuring within the brain aren't quantum
>>28442439
don't call people niggers
>>28442389
Ayy, from now on you can enjoy deterministic thoughts fucking up everything deep you think about. Welcome to the matrix.
>>28442640
so, determinism tells that nothing is truly unpredictable?
>>28442468
Funny to hear that on a board as racist as this one. I'm just tired of people blaming everything on fate or some force of nature instead of taking responsibility for their own actions, or their faults.
>>28442674
ok then, keep stating opinions like they're facts
We have free will but we use it on dumb shit and use excuses to not exercise it on smarter things
>>28442674
no free will
responsibility is a social construct
>>28442756
in that case, kill yourself right now
>>28442756
OK edgy nihilist. How about admitting that you might be at least partly to blame for your own circumstances? But you won't do that because it's too hard. Nope, it's so much easier to assume it was always going to be a certain way than to analyze your mistakes and learn from them.
>>28442855
I'm not to blame for anything
Blame would mean I'm responsible
Responsibility is just a made up concept
>>28442389
>it's a "babbies first existential crisis"-thread
Depends on your personal definition you sperg
>>28442946
>a scientific fact depends on your personal definition
uh...
Reminder that all of these concepts you are describing are not well-defined or rigidly structured. The problem isn't that "free will" exists or doesn't exist-it's that it's a very poor linguistic construction. Most people in this thread probably have entirely different conceptions of what "free will" is supposed to even to imply at all. It invites so many subconcepts and internal ideas that discussion is always messy.
>>28443034
it means you could have done otherwise
which is never true
Watch this video if you believe in free will.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAnlBW5INYg
>>28442855
Lets say you went back to the past to when this day started but without remembering it.
Wouldn't you end up repeating the same things you did until now? The situations you face are out of your control and the way you react to them is decided by how your brain is made.
>>28443135
That isn't lack of free will, nigger. Stay retarded.
>>28443173
So what is it? Everything since you start living is decided by external circumstances and the way your brain is programmed to react to them.
Even if you were to revive your life a thousand times over you'd never and up being a musician, an actor, an astronaut or whatever, you'll always end up being a faggot who posts on r9k.
>2deep4u
Kill yourself my man
>>28442436
>Science
Science is about measuring and attempting to determine causality of physical reality. It isn't designed or equipped for anything else.
Saying
>science can't explain consciousness
is like saying
>red isn't blue
Of course!
>>28443295
It's you making choices. Don't get mad just because you're an inferior retard that can't do anything right.
>>28443739
The choice you make are determined by external factors out of your control but accepting that you aren't responsible for your success would hurt your pride so just keep your eyes closed.
>>28442413
Even if that is the case it doesn't give us free will.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joanVUoXY0s
>>28443739
The idea of a durable "you" continuing to exist as the same thing moment to moment is false.
"You" are not the same person "you"'ll be in 10 years, or the same person "you" were 10 years ago.
You're not made up of the same matter, and the matter that makes you up isn't arranged the same. Your thoughts are different than they were 10 years ago...hell, 10 minutes ago. There is no real "you".
