There is no reason to have sex
from the pros-cons perspective, the only good thing sex has is a momentary pleasure that, while being very intense, it doesn't have any lasting benefits and thus it isn't much different from masturbation, while it has a fucking lot of cons, such as having to find a partner, having to put an effort into pleasuring the partner, regrets, etc. Specially turning into a slave of such thing and turning your life into a constant pursue of sex, not being able to live without it anymore
Of course, its purpose is to make babies, but why the fuck would I want to do that? It's even another point against having sex
Very true OP. An intelligent post indeed. Quite the thing to ponder.
>>28441694
Sure, tell yourself that's the reason you're not getting laid or have a partner in your life
What about as an intimate bonding experience with a person you love?
true
Every person who isn't a virgin says sex is great, then proceeds to tell me how addicted they are to sex
Sex intrinsically has no value, but the normies turn they life around trying to have it all the time
>image of OP
>>28441765
I've had a girlfriend
it wasn't fun, I had to sacrifice too many things for the sake of a relationship that didn't give me nothing. Doing lewd stuff with her wasn't satisfying in the least, I knew how to pleasure myself better than she knew pleasuring me and on top of that I also had to worry about pleasuring her, so fuck that
>>28441767
I call that making love, because it is an addition to a romantic relationship meant to deepen the bonds between people rather than a mean in itself. Regardless, the act itself isn't as much of a pleasurable experience as normies and porn sell it
>>28441798
Sounds like your previous (only?) relationship just sucked; what you're saying is like saying that because you had one bad steak you're swearing off meat forever.
>>28441793
I'm not implying that I'm a retarded asexual, I'm know that I'm just as much of a retarded ape as the next wanker
I'm just making the statement that sex has more things going against it than in favor, and that for what it is worth it really is just a more intense masturbation with a lot of risks
Normies and wagecucks need sex in order to work. They are carrot on a stick chasers. They will receive one moment of pleasure (that can be achieved by masturbatory means) provided that they give away their lives as slaves to Shekelstein. Quite a masochistic and primitive system which preys on the wagies animal instincts.
Thankfully, ubermensch such as myself and other NEETs have evolved beyond pettiness to achieve greatness among the ranks of Goethe and Newton. I pity the wagie who thinks he's found 'meaning' in work, but alas, no rational thought can be used against the indoctrinated masses.
>>28441824
because the effort involved into being in a shitty relationship was fucking tremendous and thus I don't even want to think about the effort needed for a good relationship when I would do so just to have sex
I'm not going to lie, I'm not that kind of person that claims to be a nice guy, I don't care for any girl and I don't have any future plans of marriage or emotional support, so the only reason I would be in a relationship is for the sex, and that feels both like tricking the girl and a waste of time and effort
>>28441865
>I don't care for any girl
Found the answer: you're gay, so hooking up with a guy will have way less emotional shit and they'll know how to operate your junk better than most girls, problem solved.
>>28441897
how mature
In case you were actually serious, I find the mere idea disgusting
>>28441916
I'm curious how old you are now
>>28441916
>I find the mere idea disgusting
that's what they all say
>>28441936
turned 21 this year
>>28441954
if you want to look at it other way, I don't care for any person, be it a guy or girl, enough to be in a relationship
also, why the fuck is your solution "turn to guys if you want to have sex" when I just said it's fucking pointless
Had sex twice, got deepthroated, didn't even nearly feel as good as masturbation, nah, I'm good..
Can you hear it OP?
Here cometh the butthurt normies to say sex is great and call you a sore virgin
>>28441979
I suggested the gay thing and I'm not >>28441954
Pretty sure i would have said almost the exact same stuff at your age or younger anon, not gonna add anymore shit other than: don't completely cut people out, some people deserve to be told to fuck off (learned that the hard way), but if you don't keep your head up you'll always miss out on really good shit.
>>28442029
Heard from people who have been deepthroated that it's way worse than a normal blowjob, which makes sense since there's fuck all stimulus going on when you think about it, unless the girl can stroke your head with her tonsils or something.
Sex isn't all that. But a good relationship is. The reason to get into a relationship is not sex. But sex is a nice bonus.
vigin here
what do i go for now, since sex is apparently garbage?
>>28442064
>don't completely cut people out
oh no, I absolutely like making friends and I do a lot of normie shit, have friends, parties and social stuff
But romantic relationships is something I can't care about anymore
>>28442171
can't you tell it's obvious?
>>28442064
Exactly what I thought about deepthroating
>>28442174
i still want to have sex tho
>>28442226
well, I'm telling you it's not worth it, but of course I can't stop you from pursuing it
>>28441765
>>28441793
>>28441824
>>28441897
I'm not exactly hearing a rebuttal to OP's argument here.
>>28442233
well thats just your opinion, i want to find out for myself.
>>28442258
why the fuck are you even posting
>>28442273
what do y0u mean?
>>28442291
>what do I go for now
>try following your dreams
>I still want sex
>okay then, don't recommend it
>I don't care
I already said for you whatever the fuck you want, what kind of discussion is left?
Nobody cares about you
>>28441694
Then what's the point of jerking off? It's more useless than sex, with sex you get to have social interaction with someone else, and that feeling of love if you really like each other. Masturbating is just to mimic the feeling of sex.
Can you feel that passionate love between you and your hand when you wank it alone in your room? No
>>28442315
>nobody cares about you?
hey no need to get nasty with me. who cares about your dumb opinion over a main biological activity that billions of people participate in?
dont force that nonsense on me. i want to get laid
>>28442334
>with sex you get to have social interaction with someone else
you are telling like that was undoubtedly a good thing
there are much better ways to socialize with someone than doing what any other animal without rational thinking can do. The feeling of love doesn't come from sex, it comes regardless of the act, since it is a mean of reaffirmation of love. When you like someone that much sex isn't going to change that
refer to >>28441798 for the making love thing
Sex doesn't give you love, it only gives you a pleasure similar to that of a wank
>>28442350
what the fuck man
>>28442334
You think like a child, what's the point of eating good food when I could just eat my own feces? Get out and experience a little of everything
>>28442421
>you are telling like that was undoubtedly a good thing
there are much better ways to socialize with someone than doing what any other animal without rational thinking can do. The feeling of love doesn't come from sex, it comes regardless of the act, since it is a mean of reaffirmation of love. When you like someone that much sex isn't going to change that
uhh i think your misenterpreting what he said.
he not saying you can only get social interaction from sex, he's saying that as a plus from being alone and jerking off. he's saying sex is hood as a plus with all the stuuf you said here >>28441798
>>28442446
children dont have sex
>Get out and experience a little of everything
can sex be one of them? do i have your permission?
>>28442501
it might be one of the pluses, but sex adds so many risks and cons to the equation that it isn't nearly enough to make it worth it, specially when it is in such a minimal way
>>28442524
fucking underage, get out
forgot to add STD's
>>28442541
true, unless you dont take precautions like condoms and hiv tests.
eventually im going to find a girl that likes me and would want to share an intimate moment with me, and im not going to turn her down with some asexual nonsense.
>>28441694
this is why i haven't bothered in years
what you're forgetting is that for normies it isn't that difficult to get sex. so this post really just applies to robots
but then you should consider that the feel of getting laid will be much more satisfying to a robot so in conclusion: hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
I have come to the same conclusions, however I think you are projecting too much of yourself onto others. They do not see themselves as slaves, but as revellers. Sex is not a chore or a burden, but a great blessing to them. Sex is not taking the place of something more important to them, sex IS that important something. One of them, anyway. Even if you could hand them a pill that would completely erase their libido, they would likely refuse you, because it would take away one of their greatest pleasures. If anything they would want the opposite, an additional something akin to sex, another itch to scratch for satisfaction.
And like >>28442589 says, the difficulty by which sex may be obtained varies, as do many other factors. Your bold claim that it is never worth having is too reaching, people will cut you under the arms now. You do have something here, you've just over-extended yourself. I ran into exactly the same problems myself when I first made these realizations.
>>28441694
what if you dad masturbated like a fag instead of having sex like any alpha male?
>>28442579
there are many things besides that, like the emotional dependency, the girl being a psychopath, reputation, yourself turning into a slave of the pussy, etc.
and eventually I'll find a girl that likes me as well and I won't turn her down, but what I mean is that I won't be desperately looking for sex and trying to hook up girls just for them to touch my dick, you absolute twat
>>28442589
nah
robot satisfaction of sex isn't the sex itself but the realization of being desired and the "feels" that come with it
>>28442631
>but what I mean is that I won't be desperately looking for sex and trying to hook up girls just for them to touch my dick, you absolute twat
different strokes for different folks
>>28442620
not in the least I doubt any of what you say, I perfectly know the non-virgin do not consider themselves slaves and that they would still argue with me and they consider sex something very important, but what the fuck, of course they are not aware of their condition
If you spent a lot of money on a product that everyone tells you that is great you would inevitably defending such product past any rational consideration of its real value and worth, they are not lying to anyone because they are convinced, lying to themselves to a point of no return
>>28442688
oh well
>>28442710
a product created by nature and is in our very psyche and responsible for our existence. and the reason you jerk off every night.
>>28442787
we evolved to a point in which having sex implicates so man things that reducing it to nature and psyche is naive at best
If I was a monkey, every time time I wanted a wank I would go look for a female in my tribe and fuck her, I don't even need to explain why nowadays that's retarded
>>28442839
could you just explain anyway?
>>28442710
We've had these discussions about normalfags here before. Some of them are very keenly aware of their condition, they simply don't feel the need to talk about it often and certainly not in front of strangers. They even make jokes about this very subject: "women, can't live with them, can't live without them" etc. They might hold the position because they were biologically programmed to, but believe me, they are not all unaware. If they are slaves, they are willing ones.
>>28442937
>women, can't live with them, can't live without them"
thats usually a joke married people would say
>>28442854
holy shit, really?
good thing I don't have anything to do but shitpost anyway
Getting sex isn't easy, you need another person for that, preferably someone you find attractive (you can say it depends on the person, but undoubtedly everyone has at least one thing they don't want in their sexual partner) and more importantly that is willing to do it with you. The effort required to turn the disposition of someone to like you enough for such act is tremendous, requiring precise social skills, movement through determined circles, time and luck. Mind you, we are doing this just for SEX, if we said we wanted to have a girlfriend to cuddle happily with and marry it would be more worth it.
Then the act itself is difficult, because you are required to please your partner and it isn't intuitive. Oh, you can read how to eat pussy properly or how to touch the right spots? Studying to have sex sound like a lot of fun right, much more when I just want to have a momentary pleasure. Regardless, in the act itself you can't just think about what you really want, which is the pleasure
Then afterwards you have to worry about many things. A lot of them can be dismished if you used a condom, of course, but I'm talking about the social implications, such as the risk of the girl developing an emotional bond with you (when, once again, you only wanted a wank), your reputation shifting, and among other things, the most important is developing a dependency or addiction to the act, so one would have to pass through the whole process again for such a minimal gain in pleasure compared to masturbation
Of course, you can say "fuck all that" and just rape another, but if you really make me explain why that's not a good idea then I'll wish the worst for you and your family
>>28442937
indeed
>not fapping to your waifu everyday while you pursue higher education
fucking normies I swear
