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>tfw no secular. pro-science conservative party to vote for in America
>>28437183
>tfw no free market socially liberal to vote for
>>28437205
Social liberalism has gone too far. We have gay marriage, that's all we need socially. Any more and we are getting into SJW progressive territory.
>>28437183
>Implying Trump is not turning the Republican into that.
Trump is reviving Paleoconvservatism aka "The Old Right" that Neocons killed. That is why everyone in the #NeverTrump group is hardcore neocons.
>>28437237
gay marriage is a non issue and a waste of time. we need to rid of drug prohibtion. legalize ALL the drugs including the krokodile one that rots your skin
>>28437273
You mean decriminalize
>>28437290
>decriminalize
yes
>>28437183
This desu sempai. Fucking hate religious nuts.
>>28437255
This, Trump is bringing back everything the conservatives need. This change had to happen eventually in order for Republicans to ever regain the White House.
>>28437255
>raise taxes on the rich
>bring back mercantilism and destroy free trade
>not strong on 2nd amendment or 1st amendment
>authoritarian who doesn't understand limits on president
>thinks supreme court judges prosecute people
>doesn't want to cut entitlements
>literally talks about dismantling the establishment
so conservative. Trump is basically the other side of the coin from Bernie. Ignorant populism spouting catch phrases that dumb people form cults around.
>>28437183
Fucking this.
I just want the government and religious moralfags to stay the fuck out of my life. Why is that so much to ask for?
>tfw no anti sjw but militant leftist party like the Russian communist party
>>28437372
You know what's worse than living in a politically correct world ruled by an SJW party? Starving to death in a Communist dystopia.
>>28437312
>Trump is bringing back everything the conservatives need.
He's not paleoconservative at all. Plaeoconservatives are NOT supporters of globalization, offshoring, or hiring illegal immigrants. He just said that to get the nomination
>>28437304
>>28437304
I kind of wish we'd get a secular conservative movement because it's hard to take religious conservatives seriously. If you really believe in creationism or that porn should be illegal you can't be in politics
>>28437316
>>raise taxes on the rich
Yes Trump wants this and much lower corporate taxes.
>>bring back mercantilism and destroy free trade
If free trade means shipping all the manufacturing jobs overseas and having companies replace all the college educated workers by abusing h1b visas then I will take mercantilism anyday.
>>not strong on 2nd amendment or 1st amendment
He has literally never held a rally where he has not talked about his support for the second amendment. He also constantly speaks about his hatred of political correctness and how its incompatible with the first amendment.
>>authoritarian who doesn't understand limits on president
Nothing wrong with authoritarianism.
>>thinks supreme court judges prosecute people
Where are you getting this?
>>doesn't want to cut entitlements
You are right he doesn't want to because he wants to give people jobs instead of welfare.
>>literally talks about dismantling the establishment
Good because the neocons got rid of the paleos so it only justice to bring back the paleos into power. Neocons are just a bunch of globalist treasonous assholes.
>>28437412
>He's not paleoconservative at all. Plaeoconservatives are NOT supporters of globalization, offshoring, or hiring illegal immigrants. He just said that to get the nomination
Did you not watch the first speech he did right after everyone dropped out?(Cruz and Kasich) He flat out called out globalists by name and declared war on them..Even openly proclaimed himself a nationalist in the same speech. He never once used the term globalist until he got the nomination. Now he is using it in every speech.
>>28437500
>Nothing wrong with authoritarianism.
r/cuck is the other way
>>28437205
>>28437183
>>28437316
>>28437362
>>28437412
>>28437273
Gary Johnson's gotchu senpai. He just needs to get on the debate stage and people will realize he is what America needs
>>28437500
>He has literally never held a rally where he has not talked about his support for the second amendment. He also constantly speaks about his hatred of political correctness and how its incompatible with the first amendment
He's going to change that in a few months. He'll start saying pro Hispanic things quickly to get the support he needs. Notice how he now says "african american" and not black
>Nothing wrong with authoritarianism.
Authoritarianism always results in hypocrisy and thoughtcrime laws.
>>28437500
>If free trade means...
That's because you're economically illiterate and not a conservative.
"jobs" are not an end in themselves. If you just want a ton of American jobs, I can hire 100 people to dig holes and 100 people to fill them. Free trade makes people move into more profitable and high tech areas and makes our country richer. That helps the poor by making essential goods like clothes cheaper. What you're asking for is unfair subsidizes for companies that can't afford to compete in a global market. I don't want my tax dollars going to some bumfuck working in a dying industry.
http://www.igmchicago.org/igm-economic-experts-panel/poll-results?SurveyID=SV_0dfr9yjnDcLh17m
>He has literally never held a rally where he has not talked about his support for the second amendment. He also constantly speaks about his hatred of political correctness and how its incompatible with the first amendment.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/432037/donald-trump-libel-first-amendment
I don't think 2nd amendment is a huge problem this election because he will pivot to meet Clinton's insane 2nd amendment opinions but who knows what he will do once president. more important is that he flops on this issue. http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2016/apr/12/donald-trump/donald-trump-fully-flip-flops-lately-opposes-ban-a/
>Nothing wrong with authoritarianism.
Uh, how about that it's totally Anti-American? America is about Constitutionalism, Republicanism, and limited Powers. It is not about electing a king to dictate everything.
>Where are you getting this?
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/274662-trump-i-would-probably-appoint-people-that-would-look
>Good because the neocons got rid of the paleos...
Please stop using words you don't know the meaning of. Also, you cannot simultaneously be a conservative and a revolutionary who wants to totally blow up the system.
>>28437598
Yeah America really needs to let ISIS grow and to open our borders. Oh wait that's fucking stupid.
>>28437539
Trump has tons of foreign investments, hires illegals, and profits from globalization. Offshoring will only go away when automation is strong enough to replace humans. Then you AND Pajeet are shit out of luck
>>28437624
>He'll start saying pro Hispanic things quickly to get the support he needs.
You need to watch his rallies. He has been saying pro-hispanic things in all his rallies. He even has hispanics come up on stage with him and gives them hugs. He is anti-illegal immigrate not hispanic he has brought up the chinese that fly here and give birth and head back to china so they can have american citizenships for their kids.
>Authoritarianism always results in hypocrisy and thoughtcrime laws.
Libertarianism leads to stuff like sjw running rampant and illegal immigration bringing down nations.
>>28437598
>glancing over his views
>actually agree with almost all of it
The fuck? Why aren't libertarians more popular? Are my opinions just contrarian?
>>28437655
> America is about Constitutionalism, Republicanism, and limited Powers.
fucking lel
a king would be an improvement from the fact that america is about bending it's ass over to the will of the financial elite
a single man dictating everything at this point cannot actually be worse than several people dictating things for their own benefit. At the very least, this single man is an easy target. All those people who currently run america to their liking are untouchable
>>28437655
>http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/274662-trump-i-would-probably-appoint-people-that-would-look
>Trump was responding to Clinton, the Democratic presidential front-runner who called on voters earlier this week to ask themselves what kind of justice or attorney general Trump would appoint, citing his belief that Muslims should be banned from entering this country.
>attorney general
Not even the same guy but really anon the article says hes talking about attorney generals.
>>28437703
>He has been saying pro-hispanic things in all his rallies
Then he isn't paleoconservative. Paleocons are white nationalists
>Libertarianism leads to stuff like sjw running rampant and illegal immigration bringing down nations.
SJWs can get pretty grotesque I'll admit. There are now laws being put in place that will prevent bartenders from refusing service to pregnant women. I'll give you that.
>>28437655
Leave it to the Ayn Rand/Milton Freedman globalist faggot to go full autism. You would have been gassed during Hitler's reign
>>28437743
>a king would be an improvement from the fact that america is about bending it's ass over to the will of the financial elite
>>28437703
>illegal immigration bringing down nations.
libertarianism only applies to the CITIZENS of the nation faggot
>>28437776
not an argument
>>28437765
This clearer?
http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/03/trump-supreme-court-clinton-email-221377
>>28437743
>These rich people have too much power! Let's put all the power into one extremely unqualified rich person with no policy acumen whatsoever!
Trump voters
>>28437806
Not sure about Johnson specifically but libertarians typically have less Hawkish foreign policy views and lighter immigration laws.
Holy fucking shit, I am so tired of political discussion.
/pol/ threads outside of /pol/ should be bannable offenses.
>>28437703
>>28437743
>>28437776
>These delusional fags who think that SJW's and social marxism are worse than authoritarian bullshit
ALL OF US would have been gassed under Good Ol' Uncle Hitler. Or at the very least forced to bend over backwards to the Supreme Aryan Chad.
Or we would be arrested and shot just because some loyal party member doesn't like us. Such is life in an authoritarian regime, it's harsh and unfair.
>>28437871
There's only like two on the whole board and this one is relatively civil
>conservatives unironically believe that illegal immigration is a bigger problem than climate change
Trump thinking that climate change is a chinese conspiracy means hes an absolute retard.
>>28437655
Shhh, don't use logic to argue with protectionists. People against free trade only agree with it for emotional, not logical reasons.
>>28437741
Most Americans do fall in the "Economically Conservative/Social Liberal" meme category, so your opinions are fairly in line with the rest of America.
They're literally not popular purely because of two things. Lack of money/outreach, and the "Libertardian" meme the left pushes.
>>28437883
Authoritarianism is good if you have a leader who has the peoples best interest at heart and Hitler clearly did. Democratic governments blow ass because people will fall astray without a firm guiding hand.
>>28437883
Dont mind the idiot stormfags. Theyre hard on for fascism is blind and immune to sound arguments.
>>28437655
>you cannot simultaneously be a conservative and a revolutionary who wants to totally blow up the system.
stop with this cancerous shit
you want to use the meaningless right-left political orientations in the US? then don't use the no true scotsman shit
wanting to change the system doesn't automatically make you a leftist
there's nothing in conservative beliefs that says that you must support corporations being able to fund campaigns
conservatism is meaningless outside of a left-right spectrum and the problem with a left-right spectrum is that you can't disqualify someone from your half of the spectrum for something like wanting to change the system when the rest of the beliefs are independent of that view
>>28437939
If you think Hitler was good, I don't think we are going to reconcile our political differences here.
Also, America isn't a democracy. It's a Constitutional Republic.
>>28437918
>he fell for the global warming meme
>>28437952
I didn't mention left/right...?
>Conservatism (or conservativism) is any political philosophy that favours tradition (in the sense of various religious, cultural, or nationally-defined beliefs and customs) in the face of external forces for change, and is critical of proposals for radical social change.
>>28437961
Why are conservatives literally creationist tier regarding science?
>>28437741
In Gary's words "Most people in america are libertarians, they just don't know it yet." Watch his interview with Penn Gillette, it's great.
https://youtu.be/NUETegSwWc8
>>28437939
Authoritarianism is good if you're a bootlicking cuck. Objectively.
If you willingly give up on what makes a man a man for your masters than you are big fucking cuck,
>>28437958
I know the us isn't a democracy but we do have some democratic processes. We don't have to use Hitler, we could use Lee kuan yew if you like. The point is strong leaders are the only way a nation can truly realize it's potential.
>>28437958
A constitutional republic is a form of democracy, dingus. So sick of this snarky, dumbass response to "America is a democracy".
>>28437972
fair enough
a fine example of how liberal and conservative have lost their meaning in the US thanks to it's substitution for left/right
>"Trump is like Hitler"
Jesus Christ when will this retarded meme end?
>>28437939
Authoritarianism is good if you have a leader who has the peoples best interest at heart and Lenin/Stalin/Mao/[insert_communist_leader_name_here] clearly did.
Democratic governments are detrimental because the proletariat will fall astray without a firm guiding hand of a Vanguard Party.Equally as delusional, yet /pol/fags will vehemently disagree with one, while championing the other.
Sounds like someone is biased
>>28437996
Except as a Republic, America is already the greatest nation that has ever and will ever exist.
>>28438006
Not really. Republics are not Democracies. This is not a snarky response. It's important because I agree Democracies are weak, but we don't really have one except in a weak sense. The ignorance and fickleness of the masses is checked by the Constitution and being represented.
>>28438015
Half the reason that meme has spread is the army of white supremacist dickriders he has. Stormfags suck his dick 24/7
>>28437973
Because our current model of free market globalism is unsustainable in a world of limited resources, and thus they must disregard many forms of academic consensus to convince themselves and others that the way things are now is the best and only true way to organize economies.
>>28437939
>>28437996
The whole point of a republic is that it isn't directly ruled by the people. It is "ruled" by elected officials the problem with America nowadays is that the elected officials don't really represent what most Americans want. Hitler is the fucking opposite of what America needs to be great. All authoritarian governments are cancer and why there are people who don't realize this baffles me. Did you not take history?
>>28438071
These are people who think history is a jew lie. Of course they know jackshit about it.
>>28438042
>60% white
>great
kekd. A strong white nationalist leader wouldn't have allowed this.
>>28438071
What benefit is there to libertarianism when all it does is encourage mass illegal immigration and destruction of cultures?
>>28438105
Your retarded ideology got destroyed by the forces of good in WWII. White supremacists so strong right? Since you're so big on racial purity why don't you exercise some eugenics and erase yourself from the gene pool so don't pass on your idiocy onto another generation?
>>28438071
>Hitler is the fucking opposite of what America needs to be great. All authoritarian governments are shit
Masterfully memed my friend. Keep telling yourself that and remember it in 10-20 years when America is literally filled to the fucking brim with spics and mulattos.
>>28438109
>all it does is encourage mass illegal immigration and destruction of cultures
Not at all, it wants to make legal immigration easier. Of course the legal immigrants would need a job to live here especially under a libertarian world where there aren't welfare programs. What do you even mean by destruction of cultures? American culture has been built on freedom of expression.
>>28438165
Not a meme at all. Most spics I know are pretty nice but I don't live in the city so crime is low here.
>>28438165
Enjoy your faggy circlejerk with all your white friends America will continue to dominate the world with good and bad people of all races.
>>28438109
>when all it does is encourage mass illegal immigration
libertarianism only applies to citizens and protecting borders stems from the idea of property rights and basic self defense(you have a door at your house, right?)
> destruction of cultures
our culture has been stated a long time ago and that is Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. Which you fucking faggots are trying to destroy
>>28438137
>allies
>forces of good
Muh good guy bad guy everything is black and white durhuuurrhuuuurr. Guess what jackass i don't have to erase myself from the gene pool I'm gay anyways. And while your daughters and up fucking nigs my adopted Aryans will be popping out 10 blue eyed babies a pop so fuck off
>>28438216
WWII is about as close to clear-cut good and evil as you can get. What about an aggressive dictatorship trying to conquer Europe and committing genocide is not evil?
P.S. It's a very leftist SJW thing to do to deny good and evil. If you commit genocide, you are evil. You can justify it because you have some batshit idiotic ideology you learned from the internet but that doesn't make it any less evil.
>>28438165
race is a non-issue and a complete waste of government power. Start a large collective group and breed with white women (consensually) if you want to save your racial tribe.
>>28438265
Purging undesirables from the nation state isn't evil. They should have been there in the first place. But as they say the victor writes history and big bad Germany is the fashionable meme these days...
>>28438278
>race is a non-issue and a complete waste of government power
Top cuck
>>28438327
*shouldn't have
>>28437316
Stop watching CNN and reading NYT desu
>>28438327
>Top cuck
not an argument
All tribalists have subhuman traits. Those who can not comprehend the individual are inferior to those who value individualism.
>>28438265
Kekekekekek kill yourself leftie
>>28438327
Yeah, thinking genocide is evil is just a fashionable thing to say. Truly, being anti-genocide is a meme.
Do me a huge favor and take ten minutes to think through your edgy positions and take them seriously before parroting retarded horseshit you hear on the internet. It's embarrassing.
>>28437958
>If you think Hitler was good
Nazi Germany was a fucking paradise before he declared war. Take away the conquest and Hitler was a great leader.
>>28438265
>believing in the holohoax
>>28438414
>being an edgy contrarian for the sake of it
I wish instead of opposing political enemies by just reacting and going the opposite way as far as possible, people just took the correct position and held it. There's no reason to be retarded just because the left is retarded.
>>28438429
If you're too naive to figure out that the victor writes history and observe the endless flaws in the theory of the holocaust then I really don't know what to tell you.
>>28438464
"The victor writing history" is literally a stupid catch phrase that teenagers say. It isn't actually a substantive claim of anything.
If you're too blinded by your stupid ideology to confront the mountains of evidence for the holocaust, much of which has been tailored for holocaust deniers, then I really don't know what to tell you. At a certain point you have to realize you are in the same camp as Creationists who think the Earth was created a few thousand years ago and that Evolution never happened.
>Haven't you seen the gaps in the fossil record? Where are the duck-alligators? After all, science is written by the anti-religious.
>>28438464
I heard hitler launched 11.5 million of the 12 million bodies into space and that's why nobody could ever find them
>>28438551
not him but
>put enemies of the state (Jews tried to overthrow the government following WWII) in detention camps (just like America with the Japs)
>get BTFO, Allies bomb supply lines
>???
>starvation
>>28438377
>Take away the conquest and Hitler was a great leader.
he wasn't a good leader at all....he did the equivalent of taking out 6 credit cards and maxing them out to make Germany appear to have money again, and then invade countries and seize their stockpiles of gold and repeat.
>>28438414
http://imgur.com/a/PSmeN
>>28438551
If holohoax fags could produce even one shread of evidence that proved their little meme I would renounce Nazism tomorrow. Until then fuck off.
>>28438551
I just want to hop in and say you're stupid as fuck if you think your school's history agenda wasn't biased. I also recommend you do some exploration and reading on your own for once. Maybe learn something about hitler and nazi germany besides
>muh holocaust
And
>muh fascism
>>28438597
Prepare to be bombarded with infographics filled with half-truths and outright lies anon.
You will never hear a naziboo try to explain it in their own words, nothing but infographics and youtube vids.
>>28438601
What else is their to know besides leading one of the most industrious nations in Europe into complete and utter ruin and destruction, having 10% of the population of Germany reduced, and starting a world war that killed 55 million people all in 12 years of power?
>>28438665
What about the treaty of versailles that lead to WWII?
Hitler didn't come into and maintain power through sheer force of will alone
They were fucked, both militarily and economically by the treaty
Besides, Hitler ended the depression that plagued the west
>>28437183
Might change in the relatively near future. As crazy as Trump is, I think his insurgence represents a desire among the American people to have an alternative to the Religious Right; I'd imagine especially among right-leaning atheists/apatheists who are probably numerous in the more secular millenial generation. What they'll want is more of a libertarian party that looks more like a liberal party on social issues and actually tries to reduce government size, rather than just slashing social services in favor of piling money into neocon military ventures and government-mandated morality.
>>28438665
Russia being more powerful and Hitler having to fight on two fronts was hardly his fault and you know it. He did everything he could to stop it.
>Implying the holocaust happened
>believing in some bullshit just some jews say it's true
You can't prove it happened, I wasn't there, I didn't see it myself so it didn't happen
>>28438737
>Hitler having to fight on two fronts was hardly his fault and you know it.
Please explain. Hitler invaded western europe in 1940, and then the Soviet Union in 1941.
How could it be anything other than his fault?
>>28438785
His hand was forced. Stalin was going to invade Germany anyways. Thus he had to do a preemptive strike. By doing so britain and France for involved. Hitler did everything he could for peace. He only wanted harmony. It no surprise westerners dont realize this after 75 years of the propaganda machine fucking them.
>>28438832
I like Hitler but why did he have to go to war anyway? Shit idea. Should've just built on the prosperity he had already made.
>>28437316
Things he never said
