I killed my landlord last night
>Live alone
>Extreme fear of burglars
>Always keep loaded gun next to me at night
>Wake up at 3:40am
>Hear some noise
>OH FUCK OH FUCK OH FUCK
>Full scale panic attack
>grab gun, march into bathroom
>Landlord is stood there
>Pump him full of bullets
>Call cops and EMS
>He is dead at the scene
The toilet was unflushed and full of piss, I know he had a key, but what the fuck was he doing in my apartment at 3:40am in my fucking toilet, without knocking or anything.
I'm just praying that self-defence is found at court. Do you think I will be fine?
>>28392964
Pics with timestamp or it didn't happen
>>28392982
The EMS took him away, he's not still there on the bathroom floor.
>>28393003
You went full Oscar Pistorious, have fun getting your asshole filled in prison anon
>>28392964
Who owns your place now? If it's family, I don't think they'd let you stay. You should start looking for a new place.
>>28393003
Timestamped pic of floor and casings or it didn't happen.
>>28393003
yeah but the bloodstain would be
>>28392964
he deserved it
I fantasise about beating shit out of people for not flushing toilet, you are a real human bean
>>28392964
What state are you in OP?
probablynotoriginalblox
>>28393048
Don't worry. The police will sort him out with a new place to live and he won't even have to pay rent.
>>28393186
OP gonna be living the NEET life, with cooked food daily
>>28392964
Well, hopefully they find it to be an accident and you don't have to go to prison, OP. Like >>28393050 says. Please, post proof. If this is true then I am surprised they didn't take you for questioning and are allowing you to use the computer.
>>28393218
and more free sex than you could EVER want.
Bump. OP, do you have any proof? Have you been v&?
Not very likely that this happened, though if it did then it would be a clear cut case of self-defense unless you live in some pants-on-head retarded place where the authorities think it's everyone's civic duty to get murdered by criminals.
>>28393952
>kill a guy pissing in a toilet
>self defense
>>28393952
Yah its actually not self defense. There's no way a court will find that op had reason to believe his life was in danger from his landlord peeing in a toilet.
>>28394054
It's a home invasion.
>>28394099
You can't know that the intruder in your home is actually your landlord, and even if you did he has no business entering your home announced at 3:40 AM.
>>28394105
>>28394128
Sorry, you can spout your right-wing rhetoric all you want, but killing a guy peeing in your toilet is by no sane or legal means self-defense.
>>28394168
Again: home invasion.
>>28394168
>Sorry, you can spout your right-wing rhetoric all you want, but killing a guy peeing in your toilet is by no sane or legal means self-defense.
You must live in New York, Europe, or California, cause everywhere else stand-your-ground and castle doctrine dictate that if a person is invading your personal property you reserve the right. especially if they're unidentified and it's around 4 in the morning.
>>28394200
Its not personal property, he's renting it from his landlord, the guy he just killed.
>>28394168
>right-wing rhetoric
>>28394195
>>28394200
Again, you gun nut, killing someone peeing in your bathroom is not self defense. You are not defending yourself from anything. That person is not threatening you in any way.
>>28394168
Bleeding heart libcuck detected.
I'm a staunch socialist and social liberal and even I believe that if someone enters your home without your permission unannounced at 4am that you can shoot him. It doesn't matter if it's Jamal stealing a TV or the landlord pissing in your toilet.
Unless you live is shitifornia then he's well within his rights to stand his ground.
Go suck off Tyrone.
>>28394233
>Its not personal property
That's completely irrelevant.
>>28394244
Again: home invasion. Repeatedly pointing out he is peeing in the bathroom is a red herring, it has nothing to do with this.
You sure are one edgy kid.
>>28392964
This means you own the house now
>>28394244
>someone breaking into your house at 4am
Why do leftist love criminals and minoroties so much but hate hard working and successful people?
>>28394168
You can spout your cuckworthy faggotry all you want. If you're in my home uninvited at 4 am, I'm killing you.
>>28394266
Unfortunately someone merely being on your property does not give you a license to kill. Saying you killed someone merely because they broke into your home wont hold up in court depending on which state you're in.
>Crime and punishment: murricah version
>>28394266
Just repeating the words "home invasion" over and over again doesn't make it self defense. You are not defending yourself from ANYTHING if he is literally peeing in your toilet.
>>28394294
We weren't talking about someone merely being on your property, we were talking about someone entering your home in the middle of the night without permission.
Any sane court would rule it self-defense.
>>28394304
You don't know who is in your house and what their intentions are. You just know that someone has broken in.
>>28394306
What are you defending yourself from, anon? Are you being attacked? Is he flinging his pee at you and you're deathly allergic to pee? Please enlighten me.
>>28394244
I hope you're trolling cause I'm getting brain cancer from how retarded you sound.
>>28394324
So what? WHAT ATTACK ARE YOU DEFENDING YOURSELF FROM?
>>28392964
I fucking hate shitheads like you who make bullshit threads with no proof.
You're on the same level as those "funny" texting screencaps.
>>28394327
>>28394350
Your pee obsession is a red herring. It has nothing to do with this. It's irrelevant. What's relevant is that an intruder has broken into your place and presents an immediate threat.
>>28394350
The one you're almost 100% likely to get from a guy who invaded your house at 4 FUCKING AM you incorrigible retard.
>>28394306
You clearly do not understand law. In most states, having the intent to kill means that you fear for your own life. You are not allowed to kill people merely for breaking into your home at night.
OP might be able to make a case saying he was scared, but shit nigga, when you hearing a nigga pissing in your toilet, gonna be hard to tell a jury you thought he was gonna kill you.
>>28394327
Enlighten yourself by having your ass fucked by your nigger overlords you ubercuck. Reddit is over there.
>>28394327
You are assuming that OP knew everything and that people act perfectly rationally and calmly taking all factors into careful, deliberate consideration before taking any action.
OP got woken up, has adrenaline rushing through him and given the time proper lighting can be a problem on it's own to properly identify someone.
Just because we know the facts after everything played out does not mean OP had any idea of what was actually going on and could make the best possible informed choice when he is afraid of his life.
>>28394363
>>28394369
>immediate threat
There is no more threat from a man peeing in your bathroom than there is from a man standing next to you in the street. Killing someone for an imagined threat that DOES NOT EXIST is not self-defense, it is murder.
>>28392964
Hey OP first chance you get just leave to where nobody can find you. You made a mistake. Chances of things turning out in your favor are slim. If you get the chance to leave never look back. No good will come of it.
If you can't get away don't say a single word to anybody other than your lawyer. The only word you know now is "lawyer". No "I don't know", no "I don't remember", only "lawyer".
Good luck anon. It's not over until it's over.
>>28394168
Shut the fuck up Yurocuck. If you enter a house in America at 4am uninvited then you're fucking dead kiddo.
>>28394350
ok so just put it this way.
>It's the middle of the night.
>You live alone
>Suddenly you hear foot steps in your house
>Oh shit.jpg
>You think it might be a robber or some shit.
>Get gun
>Go to where you hear the sound.
Now what do you do?
>Yell out to him and reveal yourself? giving him a chance to fight back or hide.
>Or take that SOAB out
Americucks and their guns are so fucking retarded. Glad I don't live anywhere near you dumbasses.
>>28394382
>Someones in your house at 4am
>Not being scared he is there to kill you
Stop talking
Someone has mentioned Pistorius in this thread, he only got jagged because he was a gun nut who pulled heaps of crazy shit with guns and probably murdered his girlfriend
>>28394244
I'll break into your house and take a dump in your toilet at 4 a.m. and see how you like it
>>28394244
>Again, you gun nut, killing someone peeing in your bathroom is not self defense.
But it is protecting yourself from home invasion, like the other guy said. If the Landlord needed to take a piss he should of pissed outside on a tree instead of invading someone's private residency without the knowledge of the tenant.
>>28394233
Still invading without a search warrant or knowledge of the tenant.
>>28394382
Again, any sane court is going to rule it self-defense. Home invasion is an extremely serious matter.
>>28394399
Again, your pee obsession is a red herring and has nothing to do with this.
>>28394420
Maybe you shouldn't break into people's homes in the middle of the night.
>>28394399
I hope your stupidity isn't contagious.
I hope when someone invades your home in the middle of the night you're just gonna hug them and give them your wife for sexual pleasure like the cuck you are so when they hold you at gunpoint and steal the rest of whatever is left of your property you'll finally realize how fucking stupid you are.
>>28394399
>man finishes pissing
>rushes you with a knife in his pocket and you can't react fast enough to shoot him or stop him
There is no way to know someone who broke into your home at 4am won't do this, even if you know who the person is. It is an immediate, unknown threat.
>>28394399
Hope someone breaks into your house at 3AM to take a piss.
>>28394420
Your shitskin muslim neighbors are glad too. Now go offer your asshole to allah cuckmeister.
>>28394396
>>28394394
>>28394407
>>28394413
>>28394439
>>28394441
>>28394442
>>28394448
>>28394453
>>28394459
Just because OP is a trigger-happy retard does not mean that he has not murdered someone. Just because OP's imagination told him that his peeing landlord had a knife or a gun or was going to rape him doesn't mean that that happened. Keep arguing, gun nuts.
>>28394420
>Americucks and their guns are so fucking retarded. Glad I don't live anywhere near you dumbasses.
Eat a dick you mad jealous EuroKEK. Get destroyed by the Muslim Refugee Invasion.
>>28394448
That happened to Fran Drescher and her husband had to watch the break in guy rape her. They divorced later.
>>28394482
Well I'm done replying to you. Cuck etc.
>>28394382
>What is castle doctrine
>what is stand your ground
you are wrong, and your feelings and personal opinions will not change that.
>>28394469
>Implying I live in Europe
Americucks cannot think non linearly
>>28394482
Can you at least look up the definition of murder if you want to play it like you have a triple digit IQ?
>sneak in to OPs in wee hours of the morning.
>POOPOOPEEPEE
>Smugpepe.jpg
>get blown away.
Wojak got his revenge.
>>28394482
Go prep Ahmed you faggot. Just tell him that if he enters an AMERICAN house he will fucking die.
>>28394482
"Murder is the killing of another human being without justification or valid excuse, and it is especially the unlawful killing of another human being with malice aforethought."
He killed someone, sure, but it isn't so easy to call it murder.
>>28394482
You don't know who the invader is. You don't know what his intentions are. You don't know if he's armed or not. The fact that he has broken into your home in the middle of the night suggests he is at the very least there to rob you. These are the facts in that situation.
>>28392964
That's a shame OP but I have very little sympathy for you. You should always ID your targets. Never let fear pull the trigger.
>>28394492
Plot twist: her husband was gay all along
I don't think you did anything wrong and hope you get off scot-free, but I do know someone's blood on your hands will be something you'll have to deal with for the rest of your life. That's enough of a burden.
>all these edgelord kids thinking its completely reasonable to shoot someone pissing in your toilet
This is why Trump will win the election.
Was he firing his piss at you?
>>28394555
>le epic piss!
This is still a red herring and will not stop being a red herring no matter how much you repeat it.
>armchair lawyers: the thread
>>28394555
I'm not saying OP acted perfectly, I don't think he properly identified the target before pulling the trigger, but I'll be perfectly honest and say that if I was put in his situation I might fuck up too.
I'd rather fuck up and guarantee I stay alive even if it means prison than risk death.
>>28394555
>all these edgelord kids thinking it's completely reasonable to shoot some guys taking control of an airplane after the pilot can't fly anymore
>>28394555
>This is why Trump will win the election.
Good. Hope he boots your unAmerican ass the fuck out of our union.
>OP confesses to murder on laotian cartography board
>everyone immediately gets in a political discussion about what constitutes self-defense
You guys are the fucking worst.
>>28394600
OP did ask:
>I'm just praying that self-defence is found at court. Do you think I will be fine?
I think what constitutes self-defence is very relevant.
>>28394600
>OP confesses to murder
He didn't, even assuming that his story is true.
>>28394600
Op is a faggot, but this was a good story. These other faggots are missing the point.
Yeah, great job you fucking faggot, you got your (you)s, niw get the fuck out of my board and get back to b fucktard
>>28394469
>>28394491
>>28394514
I love these gun nuts outing themselves as cuckold fetishists. Why is it always the right-wingers who have this one-track mind? It's always "prep" this and "cuck" that. Keep your weird fucking obsessions to yourselves.
>>28394683
This coming from a guy who has barely made a single post in this thread where he doesn't talk about pissing.
We stand our ground against home invaders in America. Whether they've got a gun or just a dick in their hands is irrelevant. Weirdo trespassers should have known better. You enter someone's abode uninvited at 4 AM here and this is what happens.
>>28394683
have you even fired, let alone held a gun before?
>>28394695
I just find it comical that people think a dude pissing in your bathroom constitutes a threat to your life. To me, the pissing is significant because it is one of the least threatening things you can do. It's amusing to think of OP walking in on his fucking landlord peeing and deciding that he constituted a threat to his life. And it's more amusing to see all of the retards in this thread agreeing with him. Honestly, I could see how you could think I have a pee obsession based on that, but that is really dwarfed by the cuckposting on this board and this thread, which is on a whole other level.
>>28394168
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>>28394259
>>28394289
>>28394407
Samefag.
Original senpai
>>28394789
Sure I have. Why do you ask?
>>28394796
You are doing it again. You are again bringing up the pissing even though it has nothing to do with this. Is this whole thing about your piss fetish after all?
>>28394816
I just explained how it is significant, but alright buddy, keep being you.
>>28394816
Try to have a debate on /r9k/ now and you always come up with piss.
>>28394826
It's been explained to you many times how it is not significant, and you have no response.
>>28394826
It's insignificant what action the person who broke into your home at 4am is doing. He could be sitting on the couch on his cellphone jerking off. It makes no difference. Breaking into a home at 4am is always grounds for shooting.
Someone who wasn't going to do something that would hurt you or steal your things wouldn't break into your home at 4am, period.
>>28394796
Pissing is a sign of marking your territory. It is no "innocent" act.
>>28394865
>Someone who wasn't going to do something that would hurt you or steal your things wouldn't break into your home at 4am, period.
Yet that is exactly what happened in the OP. Keep having a single-digit IQ, friend.
>>28394886
Humans are not dogs.
>>28394812
Just curious. Too many people who think they know what they're talking about have never even shot a gun before, and that's a big metric I use to actually judge if they know anything.
Personally I think "OP's situation" is ridiculous, and that other people who think based off of what you think of it that you want to "come for our guns" are silly. I'm also in belief that killing an intruder is not what I'd want to do, so I'd prefer a small handgun or something like that, so that it's unlikely the intruder actually dies.
The police don't clean up crime scenes on private property. They take what evidence they need and it's left to other people to clean it up. Therefore if what you said actually happened you could easily go take a picture of the mess left over.
>>28394889
Do you know that he wasn't going to do something nasty after he finished peeing?
No, you don't. He could be having a psychotic episode and could have attacked OP after he finished. There is no way of knowing and it is much more likely that someone who breaks into your home at 4am is going to do something bad to you than the opposite. It is completely logical to eliminate the threat.
>>28394889
You have a single digit IQ if you can't understand the concept of hindsight.
>>28394889
It was a tragic misunderstanding, probably. But we have castle law so that people like OP who aren't hardened criminals don't go to prison for killing some dumbass who entered a residence uninvited in the middle of the night. It's so home owners can feel safe, and door-kickers can get dead. Unfortunately, it means sometimes things like this happen. It's still better than your faggot duty to retreat laws, yuropoor.
>>28394914
I am literally laughing so hard right now are you redpilled gamegoober.
The guy was just peeing, taking a nice beautiful yellow stream. Imagine if he just peed on my face and all over my body, letting the drops of urine trickle down on every single inch of my skin, and you shoot a guy for that? You guys are fucking insane I hope OP gets 80 years in prison for first degree murder.
Who cares if it's legal or not? The fact of the matter is that some guy got spooked so hard in his home one night and killed an intruder. Guns or no, these things will always happen if the homeowner has access to a knife or something
I think the legitimacy of the self defense thing comes from the time the break in occurred. If someone breaks in at 1PM on a Tuesday, they are probably doing that because there is an expectation of the victim being at work or school, which implies intent to steal but not harm. Breaking into someone's house at 4AM on a Saturday morning strongly implies an intent to harm to me because there is a very reasonable expectation that you would be home and in bed (helpless). OP if this is true I would definitely encourage you to lawyer up immediately.
>>28394784
>We stand our ground against home invaders in America
I think in every country there's cultural cues or laws that you have to look out for and respect.
For example, in some European countries nudist culture is big, so when you go to the beach there will be topless women, and some Americans might be disturbed by that but that's just how it is.
In South East Asia, drug use and smuggling is a crime punishable by death, so if you go there and get caught smoking weed, you shouldn't really complain if you get murdered. It's something you should have known and not tried to be an edgy stoner.
In America, if you enter someone's house at night uninvited, i.e. if you break in, you're fucking dead. Everyone knows this, it's common knowledge. The landlord was a retard and had it coming.
>>28394195
A londlord is the property owner.
OP is a paranoid violet fuck if this really happened.
>>28394990
Time of day has absolutely nothing to do with it.
>>28394955
Holy shit you really do have a piss fetish don't you? You probably jerk off to the thought of a stranger breaking in to your house and pissing in it.
>>28395007
Landlords cannot enter your unit whenever they want unannounced unless specifically stated in the lease. 99% of the time they must give prior notice.
>>28395007
Doesn't mean the landlord can enter the premises uninvited, and if someone enters your home in the middle of the night how are you supposed to know it's the landlord? Even if it is the landlord, how do you know he means no harm?
>>28395007
That's why paranoid violent fucks should have their own place instead of renting. OP could be on the hook for this, but only because it was the landlord. To be fair, the guy did do something pretty stupid though. Would it have been impossible to stop by during business hours, or pick up the phone, or knock even?
>>28394683
>I know you are but what am I?
Grow up.
>>28395047
Landlord has no right to enter the premises uninvited, let alone in the middle of the night.
>>28395007
It really doesn't matter who's name was on the deeds
It might not be OP's property, but it was his home. In many cases a burglar does not intend to harm, but certainly is willing to if they get caught. So OP's home was essentailly broken into in the middle of the night, and OP was right to be extremely frightened, and was right to take that self defence measure.
>>28392964
Guuuud jaaaab op
>>28394491
FUCKING HELL THAT LOOKS SO TASTY.
>>28395075
It really makes me wonder if he was drunk or something, using some tenant's bathroom to piss in the middle of the night. OP hasn't said much about it, but it should come out in his favor.
>>28394413
This is why I have a bat not a gun.
>>28395007
>Paranoid violent fuck
Because having someone else in your place in the middle of the night unannounced without your knowing is a common and ordinary occurrence.
>>28395155
He said VOILET fuck, not violent.
Your pic still fits, though.
>>28394826
you mansplained it. quit that shit, shitfaced shitlord
>>28395047
Landlord was probably drunk. Make sure you get that toxicology screen OP
>you see your honour I had a sperg attack and killed him
>go to jail and do not pass go
>>28395292
This, spergs here need to chill out.
If my landlord visited I would sit down with him and shoot the shit, have my girlfriend make us some coffee, not fucking have an autistic outburst and murder the guy.
>>28395333
Breaking into a house in the middle of the night is not "visiting."
>>28395125
OP hasn't said much about it because it's obviously a fake post.
>>28395333
>If my landlord visited I would sit down with him
>and shoot the shit
You really hate that mother fucker.
>>28395356
Yeah, I'll bet his girlfriend would be hiding under the bed telling him to do something about the scary intruder making noise in their apartment.
>I'm on it, honey!
>*BOOM*
>oops it was just the landlord
This is exactly the reason why guns should be illegal for private ownership.
>>28395333
>guy breaks into your house at 4am
>you act like a bitch and try to serve him coffee
Fucking pathetic. You're a sad cunt, mate.
BAN ASSUALT LANDLORDS
>>28395432
Guns should be illegal because people use them to defend themselves from home invaders? Why is that?
>>28395456
>defend themselves
Is that right-wing for "paranoid losers killing innocent people, including their landlords on a fucking hair trigger"?
Don't fucking sugarcoat what was a straight up fucking murder.
>>28395432
Well, that's a whole other debate, but there are some who say you shouldn't waste your time with anything less than a firearm. Anybody can use one, and even an old lady with a shotgun can put down a cranked up psycho. Your success is far less guaranteed with something like a knife or a bat.
itt: cucks arguing with piss fetishists about a fake post that never happened
so i guess it's /r9k/ business as usual, amirite
>>28395495
Except the cranked up psycho is more commonly the gun owner than someone sensible.
>>28395488
Killing a home invader is completely justified and does not constitute murder.
You are out of your fucking mind if you think it's "paranoia" to shoot someone who has broken into your home in the middle of the night.
>>28392964
Your fine OP but that depends on your state and "Stand your ground law" where I'm from if someone forcefully enters your dwelling you can kill them, thing is he used a key but without proper notification its illegal for your land lord to be in ya apartment let alone at that time all in all you will be fine, come on its 3am someone is in tour dwelling game over and yes rental dwellings are private, now I believe this isntrolling bec no one would be dumb enough to post this on the net after it happened and you would still be at the police HQ or talking to laywer peace faggots
>>28395501
Stop being a party pooper. It is more fun to take everything at face value than to dismiss everything.
It's not like you will make any interesting content.
Why wouldn't you just shoot him once instead of unloading 20 billion bullets into him?
That way you incapacitate him but he has less chance of dying
>>28395508
You can't really prove something like that. But I could flatly deny that the old lady is going to overpower an attacker like this with her pepper spray.
>>28395541
Let's see you think straight and be all methodical when you're pumped full of fear and adrenaline.
>>28395541
It's safer to shoot several times in case you miss or in case one bullet isn't enough to incapacitate the attacker.
>>28395541
You dont know how this works do you, yes 20 would be extreme and fuck him, if you shoot once to stop him and let him live you are fucked, they will see it as "he wasnt that big of a threat so why shoot?" You have to shoot to kill senpai
>>28395564
>the attacker
Look at you, playing pretend again.
>>28395695
Look at you, shitposting again
>>28395695
Guuuud jaaaab hejab
>>28395695
A home invader is always an attacker.
>>28395565
>you'd better end a human being's life because it might be easier for you legally!
I love it when you can immediately tell a sociopath on this board.
>>28395744
Looks like someone didn't read the OP.
>>28395744
>always
Get it through your heads guys. Home invaders die. WOO MURRICA. We have guns!
Why are u cunts replying to this made up fairy tale?
>>28395759
OP's supposed case is no different. You are looking at this in hindsight, but when you're in that situation you don't know anything except that someone has broken into your home.
>>28395772
Why are you opposed to self-defense?
>>28395787
I'm not. It's complicated. Read the thread.
>>28395801
I have read the thread.
So why are you opposed to self-defense?
>>28395787
What the fuck are you going on about? You said that a home invader is ALWAYS an attacker. This is clearly not the case in the OP. Are you literally retarded?
>>28395825
As I just said:
>OP's supposed case is no different. You are looking at this in hindsight, but when you're in that situation you don't know anything except that someone has broken into your home.
>>28395785
It's fun to pretend
>>28395806
Give me a fucking chance to cook some breakfast here and make my coffee. If people are still posting later, I may speak up for this side of the argument.
>>28395841
You said that a home invader is always an attacker. Clearly, you're wrong. Why are you saying unrelated things instead of admitting this?
Self defense
it was 3:40 am
Just pay a lawyer to show some statistics in court about crime and that your fear was funded
Ask neighbours to testify and say you never had any trouble with the landlord
>>28395865
As I just said:
>OP's supposed case is no different. You are looking at this in hindsight, but when you're in that situation you don't know anything except that someone has broken into your home.
What part of "hindsight" do you not understand? Furthermore, just because he's the landlord doesn't mean he isn't there to kill you or rape you or steal your shit. Being a landlord doesn't make anyone a saint.
ITT:
>Armchair lawyers
>The NRA
>A piss fetishist
>Europoors with a fear of guns
>Someone who's favourite phrase is 'guuuud jaaaab'
>Landlord Internet Defence Force
I think this gets thread of the year award.
>>28395983
I am European and we have a lot of guns and most men serve in the military.
Americans are fucking retarded, op had a gun and had the drop on his landlord, there's literally no reason to shoot him when you can threaten him, without a gun you'd have another weapon like a bat or a knife and the mistake wouldn't have been made
>>28395995
Do you have assault landlords?
>>28396000
Yurocuck detected.
Duty to retreat is literally the most beta thing I've ever heard.
>>28396000
Too many things can go wrong that way, it's safer to kill the attacker on sight.
>>28392964
>Landlord wants me to give him the rent
>Give him a lethal dose of bullets instead
>>28394168
Dude yo usay this now but Imagine all the cray niggas who gunna grab their ak and blat out some foos while taking pisses now. NO ONE CAN PROSOCUTE THE PISSMEN!
>>28396037
OP should submit this idea to r/Frugal/.
>>28394600
He called the police already dumbass
>>28396037
That's actually... A really interesting thought.
Now that his landlord is dead, how many months of free rent is OP gonna get before the property gets transferred / somebody can legally serve him an eviction notice?
>>28395910
Hindsight has nothing to do with it. You're right, you don't know ANYTHING except someone has broken into your home. You don't know why. You don't know who they are. You CERTAINLY do not know that they're an attacker. Like they weren't, in this case. Given all that lack of information, killing that person is not justified. If that landlord was going to kill or rape OP, he probably would not be fucking taking a piss in his bathroom.
>>28396021
>attacker
I don't think you know what that word means. Please stop using it.
>>28394784
Its castle doctrine, stand your ground is for when you aren't on your property.
>>28396214
>Given all that lack of information, killing that person is not justified.
No, it's precisely the opposite: killing is justified. There is no reason to assume that someone who has broken into your home at night has any good intentions.
>>28396228
I know exactly what it means.
>>28396214
>He's pissing in my bathroom so it MUST be safe!
People aren't this retarded are they?
/nopicsnocare/
Original
>>28394903
Good idea. Instead of a dead drugged up nigger who intends you harm you now have a pissed off drugged up nigger who intends you harm and then will sue you, if you survive.
>>28396249
You clearly do not know what 'attacker' means because you keep calling this landlord an attacker despite the fact that he never performed any attack, nor had any weapon, nor did ANYTHING other than piss in OP's bathroom. Please learn English, you mongoloid.
>>28392964
>Do you think I will be fine?
Are you white?
Would the State's Attorney have any reason not to like you?
Are there any witnesses?
What did you say to the police?
Basically the criminal justice system is fairly arbitrary. Depending on the answers to the above questions you could be doing 25 to life.
>>28396318
A home invader is an attacker.
>>28396382
What are they attacking, genius? That landlord really performed a vicious attack on OP's toilet!
>>28396418
They are attacking the home. And as has been said many times now, the pissing has nothing to do with this and is a red herring.
You are effectively arguing that people have the right to enter other people's homes at any time without permission.
>>28396318
I'm a different poster. How do you want us to tell you you're wrong? It's silly that you're arguing based on semantics, and even the most libcuck reading of the law would have op unequivocally justified in use of force. What is your argument?
Culture plays a role here too. In America if you break and enter then you better hope no occupants catch you because it can only end in bullets or handcuffs. Everyone is packing in America. Even my sweet little old grandmother has a .38 in her purse, a shotgun in the closet, and a fucking Taurus judge in the China cabinet by door.
>>28396452
>attacking the home
Give me a fucking break.
>You are effectively arguing that people have the right to enter other people's homes at any time without permission.
What a shitty strawman. The only thing I am arguing is that people should not have the right to kill anyone who enters their home unbidden. That landlord should still be penalized, just not KILLED.
>>28396452
He's a piss fetishist, he can't grasp concepts such as tenancy agreements and such.
>>28396491
>Give me a fucking break.
It's a factual statement.
>The only thing I am arguing is that people should not have the right to kill anyone who enters their home unbidden.
They most definitely should have that right. When someone breaks into your home you don't know who they are, what their capabilities are, and how many of them there are, but you do know they have bad intentions (robbery, murder, rape).
If you personally want to get raped to death by niggers then that's your right, but you can fuck right off if you think your mental illness should define the law.
>>28396491
So people should be protected from the consequences of their antisocial behavior? Thank fuck I live in a society that only somewhat loves bad people. I couldn't live in a society where criminals are allowed to just come and go through my property using my belongings as they please. To put it in a way you might understand, your shits all fucked up and you talk like a fag.
Mfw this shit is still going on
>>28394482
I love that people like this exist. Can you imagine how boring the internet would be without crazies?
>>28396491
>The only thing I am arguing is that people should not have the right to kill anyone who enters their home unbidden
Why not? the fact that someone broke into his house at 4 am is a threat, If someone enters your house without your knowledge during the night, shooting them is justified.
>>28396490
That blanket statement does not apply to all of America. It's very dependent on state and town. I live outside of Boston and almost no one I know owns any guns.
>>28396559
Nobody broke in, it was the landlord, he had a key. Its not even op's house, its technically the land lord's house and op is just renting.
>>28396580
You can't know in that moment that it's the landlord, and even then he has no right to come in and is no different from someone who breaks in.
>>28396580
so renting is what makes the difference here
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Use a tranquilizer rifle, like one you'd use for hunting. If someone breaks into your house, shoot him with it, if it's the landlord Oh well he'll be fine. If it's a burglar call the cops.
>>28396580
So you're saying that someone who enters someone else's house at 4am without permission to urinate is being perfectly reasonable?
What is wrong with you people?
>>28396562
People still own guns. You probably only hang out with other limp wrist cucks. At the very least I bet you have police with guns in Boston. America is big but guns are universal here.
>>28396580
The law treats renters the same as far as castle doctrine, self defense, breaking and entering, robbery, etc.. The fact it was the landlord changes nothing except that on top of the criminal charges for him breaking and entering he could also face civil court for violating renter's rights and breach of contract,thats if the criminal were still alive though. Fortunately the scumbag is now in a bodybag.
>>28396580
OP is renting. Which is a contract. Which grants him rights. Privacy. A safe space. Do you think that a hotel owner should be able to walk into an occupied room any time he wants just because he owns the building? Really?
>>28396636
If you weren't scared enough to kill then it wasnt a threat. If the intruder had an allergic reaction and died that would be murder, if not it's still assault. I'm not risking a murder/assault charge just so a criminal can have an easier time victimizing me.
>>28396636
>dart takes 20 seconds to kick in
>nigger turns around and stabs you in the face
>>28396859
>yo I wuz breaking into this guy's house at 3am and the nigga just shoots me with a dart! Can't a nigga steal some tvs anymore?
>>28394491
>"real" food
why would someone give this to their child
Are they that fucking lazy that they can't whip up these things from scratch (wouldn't even thke that long) and be assured that they're getting neutritious munch?
>>28396824
Whatever "limp wrist cucks" I hang out with, not everyone owns guns. They are not universal.
>>28394327
Boi. Let me lay this shit out really simple for you. OP didn't know that it was his landlord pissing in his toilet, if he did, he wouldn't have shot him. For all OP knew, it was a dangerous armed criminal breaking into his house, and there is no telling what he would do if he found OP. OP was in fear of his life, from an uninvited intruder, and acted on it.
OP. Don't sweat it, make sure you tell the jury that you were in immediate fear for your life, that is important
>>28396950
That's what you eat when you stay at a motel. Obviously noone is making it when they have a kitchen. I don't see how corn and baked chicken is any more or less nutritious if it is frozen at some point vs not frozen. Is it the cute packaging you dislike?
>>28396963
Mind telling me where that is then? I'm usually against crime but obviously your neighborhood is a bunch of un-American commies. If even the police don't have guns I'm going to have some fun. Unrelated question but do you have any daughters? How old are they?
>>28394796
HOLY SHIT he didn't know that it was his landlord or that he was pissing
>>28397118
>>grab gun, march into bathroom
>>Landlord is stood there
>>Pump him full of bullets
Hmm....
>>28397057
That's a purty rifle.
I say I'm a slavaboo but really I just have a hard-on for wood furniture. I need a kit like that. I only like black polymer because in triggers the crybullies, besides that it's boring as fuck.
>>28394903
>This anon buys a .22lr handgun
>tyrone breaks in
>anon shoots tyrone
>little bullet doesn't cause sufficient bleeding or have enough penetration to hit the spine
>tyrone remains a threat
>tyrone slaughters anon with a kitchen knife
>>28397106
I didn't say the police don't have guns. They almost certainly do.
>>28397136
This ain't your online vidya game. People's names don't hover above their head in green letters for friendlies.
>>28397171
You're saying OP didn't know what his own landlord looked like? How do you suppose he was renting from him?
>>28397153
Damn, well at least the people who come to clean up the crime scene are armed.
>>28393186
>>28393218
>>28393273
underrated
jailblox
>>28394168
absolutely degenerate
origiblox
>>28397136
>hear noise at 4am
>grab gun
>march into bathroom
>some figure that you don't recognize is in your house
>he could be a serial killer, gangbanger, rapist
>shoot him
>later find out it's his landlord
>>28397191
Early in the morning after being awoken by someone who broke and entered his place of residence? I'm sure landlord is the last thing on his mind. I'm similarly paranoid and I don't care if the guy is dressed up as Santa Claus or the Pope. I'm shooting first and asking questions later. Even when visiting family I've been startled when I encounter a family member unexpected. This is just getting up at 0600 to piss and they say good morning is the hall. A trained hand will shoot in under a second it takes much longer to recognize a person. Especially someone you've only talked to once or twice to sign a contract with.
>things that happened
>this
pick one
>>28397262
>a trained hand
That's some great training, where you just shoot someone instantly without assessing whether they pose any actual threat. America truly is a great country.
>>28397339
the fact that a stranger is in your house at 4 am is a threat.
>>28397339
The assessing was done before he even grabbed the gun. Did you miss the part where he heard a strange noise? I'm not saying a trained hand and mind are necessarily good things. I get sick from just seeing a small pile of debris in the streets now. To an ordinary person it's just some trash. To a trained person that means your shit is about to get pushed in and you better be on your toes.
If you don't want to get shot then don't break in people's homes. I'm sure had the landlord stood on the porch and banged on the door he'd still be alive. Op would still have had the gun, and he'd definitely be pissed off for being woken up, but he wouldn't have been nearly so trigger happy and a proper ID could have been made.
>>28395895
Surprising how the most insightful and helpful post in the thread is completely ignored. Here's you (You) though fampai because I agree with your post here m8
>>28397473
Hey, no shit, you shouldn't break into people's homes if you value your safety. But you also shouldn't shoot an unarmed dude peeing in your toilet.
Everyone here getting so into this story. Anyone actually think this is real?
>>28397911
How would he know the guy is unarmed? Should he stand around and wait for the guy who broke in his house to stab him before he puts a bead on him? The peeing part is irrelevant. The fact that he is in OP's house is what matters. Anyone who would break and enter is a threat and deserves to be shot.
>>28394168
I'm liberal and this guy is fucking stupid. If it's three am and you are in my house uninvited, you are dead.
>>28398227
But his penis and making the delicious pee in the toilet. He is peeing! don't you understand? Delicious urine from his delicious cock is going in your toilet. You conservative nutjobs are completely missing the point here.
>>28398043
>Everyone here getting so into this story. Anyone actually think this is real?
if he is burgerlander this story is 100% real they are this stupid
>>28398043
Nobody here thinks this is real. But it's fun to debate about
You're still arguing whether or not the pee matters.
>>28392964
Unless you live in Texas, no.
>>28398505
Real or not it's a good story. I'm just waiting a couple more weeks so I can post a humiliating story about the time I was in NYC and hook armed a female to make her swoon but for some reason she got mad and pushed me and it's her fault.
This thread is going in the pasta archives, and once aged to perfection, will be reposted by me, perhaps with slight baiting modifications, and a little earlier, around 0500 so I can b8 the dumbass bongs and see what stupid shit they have to say. Maybe this time the landlord I see in the bathroom will be black. Nothing like a racist spin to increase my post:(you) ratio.
>I come to a cartoon imageboard to talk about the morality and legality of accidentally killing someone
Everyone in here is pants on head retarded desu
>>28398659
Shouldn't you be on reddit right now pal?
>>28398711
Ironic post desu, redditor
>>28398731
>I-I was just being ironic, I s-swear.
>>28398606
>implying it doesn't
Like it or not peeing is not a threat, and you're a damn hypocrite because not only do you pee, and do so habitually, you've probably done it as recently as today.
>>28399238
It's not the peeing, it's him being in the house (anywhere) uninvited, without permission, in the middle of the night.
Most people that meet that criteria are dangerous.
>>28399264
Do you ask Sam Walton's permission to take a leak everytime you go out to buy mountain dew and totinos pizza rolls? If not I hope you don't mind getting shot for brandishing a tiny peepee that is directing a menacing stream of threatening liquid into his poor innocent urinal.
>>28399349
I'm gonna give you an 8.5/10 for baiting so many people in this thread
We both know that Walmart expects it's customers to use the toilet, a tenant does not expect his landlord to enter the house without prior notice, in the middle of the night.
No one said the piss was the threat, it's the man himself.
>>28394491
this guy although being a bit rough has the right idea. God, i wish i my gun license gets aprooved soon enough by the police, sa mycket javla blattar. Jag bor i faking Kalvesta (aka border between quarantine zone) och jag ar radd for mitt liv varje faking dag
What do Americans do if their teenage children sneak out at night and come back home at let's say 3am?
Do they get shot because the father thinks it's a break in?
>>28399630
MOST Americans aren't as autistic as OP.
>>28399630
If you have children then you would be more likely to think maybe its a child but still investigate to make sure. OP doesn't have kids so the possibility didn't cross his mind.
I snuck up on my dad once and he drew his gun. So I guess it could happen. I learned net to sneak up on people that day at least.
>>28394491
>Kid Cuisine Nuggets
>Guns
>20 dollar bills and a few pennies
>>28395541
Oh, here we go.. it's the "why didn't you just shoot him in the legs or arm" people. If I'm to the point of pulling my gun out, I'm not going to risk my life to shoot once or aim for a certain body part. The guns purpose is to remove the threat
>>28394054
>wake up in the middle of the night to see someone in your apartment
>shoot them in a panic because you live alone
>not justified
Fuck off. The landlord had no right to enter the guy's apartment and use his toilet without his permission, scaring the shit out of OP . He deserved it, and I doubt a jury would think differently.
>>28396580
So the fact that he had a key makes it not breaking and entering? So if I were to steal your keys or make a copy of them, and go in to your house it wouldnt be breaking and entering?
>All these retards arguing over a clearly fake story
>>28394491
>53 dollars
now that's gangsta
