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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg3V6T7MJIg
>>28362841
That's not all that you need you fuckboi mouth breather/thumb sucker.
Your mandible is most likely short because you had and still have an untreated malocclusion that's stunted/stunting your lower jaws growth.
Long story short, if you do have a class 2 skeletal profile, you need implants on top of mandible legthening if you ever want to look like the normans.
>>28363046
>malocclusion
that's the reason I have to get it. I'm getting braces first. I have an open bite.
Does mouth breathing as a kid really cause this? I cucked myself before I even had a chance
>>28363102
>Does mouth breathing as a kid really cause this?
Yeah man. Mouth breathing is terrible for facial development.
>>28363167
Where do you need to get implants by the way
>>28363196
Not really sure desu. Ask the orthodontists and plastic surgeons on realself.com. Make sure to tell them about your skeletal class.
>>28362841
>left looks exactly like a fish
Holy shit
>have obvious malocclusion
>parents just shrugged at it as being facial feature because the dentist never said shit about it
>didn't know myself until I finally saw a side profile of me at age 25
Fucking hell wish I had something done about it while I was young.
>>28363317
Imagine her sucking your cock though.
That deformed jaw comes with super dick sucking powers low-key.
>>28362841
This is what you get for being a stupid looking mouth breather. If you had just shut your mouth when it was not needed, you wouldn't have grown so fugly.
pic: twins, one who nose breathed, one who mouth breathed
>>28363557
They are not twins it's the same girl I know that pic its orthotropics
>>28363658
It's from the Buteyko page itself.
It's two sisters.
Here is an image of one person.
>jaw is like pic related
>it could have been prevented
>it wasn't
wtf mom and dad?
>>28363740
>>28363557
THAT FUCKING FEEL WHEN
WHY DIDNT ANYONE FUCKING TELL ME
>>28363740
This one always makes me sad. Look at the happy looking face he had in the first pic.
He would've been Chad if his parents weren't such fucks. Seriously, what kid wants a fucking gerbil as a pet.
i had double jaw surgery end of January to correct an anterior open bite, also had 4 wisdom teeth and 2 teeth removed ill answer any questions about the whole process if anybody has
>>28364221
You probably also have a tounge thrust, don't you?
Damn.
If you weren't taught proper tounge posture (tounge on the roof of your mouth, teeth shut.)
you probably also have a retruded maxilla.
>>28363512
please fucking leave normie... jesus christ
>>28364268
So, you fell for the extraction meme?
Your maxilla is probably all kinds of retruded now.
Im getting a consultation for this on the 17th.
if approved, the military will pay for the surgery. I already have the braces
>>28364271
I have an open bite, I did go to the dentist a few times as a kid to have teeth taken out, when I was a kid they said I had an open bite and will wait until I was older to correct it.
My jaw looks fine from the front, not fully square chad jaw but not complete shit. When I rest my teeth normally it looks like I have a receeded chin. DOES MOUTH BREATHING GIVE YOU A BIG NOSE TOO
>>28364295
nope. my surgeon said that he literally couldn't operate without extraction because my problem was quite unique. couldn't be happier with the result. let me guess, you read about one bad extraction result and now think it's a meme?
>>28364343
It didnt give you a big nose, it gives you a small jaw so in comprarisson your nose looks small.
>>28362841
>cutting the top part
oh god that is terrifying, looks like it could give you nasal problems too
>>28364268
>>28364362
Do you look more chad-like now
>>28364343
Yeah, it gives you a big ol' hook snoz. Mostly because your maxilla retruded and you don't practice good tounge posture.
I bet you're a filthy lazy tounge, aren't you nigga?
>>28364392
1% risk of permanent nerve damage, or 99% chance of perma-virginity. Your pick.
i dont look like a fish and my chin and all that are properly shaped but my upper lips sticks out more than my bottom and my lips make a / line instead of a | when lined up, is that bad?
>>28363046
>tfw I used to mouth breath and suck my thumb all the fucking time but I've still got a normal face
Jesus, I lucked out on that one
>>28364396
well i now have straight white teeth that close together and a nicer jaw line but i am still depressed. so short answer yes
>>28364485
Breathe*. I guess instead of having a fucked up face I just can't spell.
my lower jaw sticks out beyond my upper
an under bite i guess you call it
its really mild though
and im not down with having my fucking face broken and reassembled
>>28364362
Extraction literally retrudes your maxilla.
I'm sorry you let a 60 yr old orthodontist that suffers from dementia near ypur face. I'm glad you're happy with your mangled facies
Does your profile look similar to pic related family?
>>28364388
>>28364452
I think you meant big.
this is what my side profile looks like senpai
>>28362841
Left is dutch right is german lol
>>28364503
How did your jaw line change anon
I wish to know more
>>28364547
OP here, the I just had an initial consultation, they said I was a fringe case but if I really wanted to correct it they would do an open bite surgery with a counter clockwise rotation or something of the lower jaw.
Is that similar to the video I posted? My chin isn't THAT receeded ;_; see >>28364559
>>28364480
It's called lip incompetence.
My cousin has it really bad because he sucked his thumb like a bitch up until the third or fourth grade.
It's pretty funny desu. Makes him look like there are tumors growing in his lips.
>>28364547
it does not look any different than it did before, you really don't know what you're talking about. im going to trust the opinions of the collaboration between one of the best surgeons and one of the best orthodontists in my city over some retard on 4chan
>>28364586
lower jaw is a bit wider so face looks more symmetrical. you need to understand that depending on your issue the aesthetic result will be different. my surgeon emphasised to me that it's a functional procedure and any aesthetic changes are a bonus. what are your jaw problems anon?
I considered it, that wont take out the excess of skin, also the jaw has already growth in an horrible way, no way to make that growth again..
I hate shitty parenting.
>>28364687
how fix lip incompetence?
>>28364725
My surgeon said the exact same thing
But he also said my chin wouldn't be as receeded and my midface would be slightly shorter. An open bite (teeth don't allign when closed)
>>28362841
You're socially retarded, so it won't matter,
>>28364519
Class 3 malocclusion, even if mild, is the worst skeletal profile to have.
Stunted maxilla, stunted mandible, stunted everything.
Get that shit fixed mane.
>>28364758
First you have to fix your class 2, then you have to strengthen the muscles in your lips.
I too swim in rivers
>>28364772
then you can expected changes that you will be very happy with. work with your surgeon and tell him exactly what you want, I didn't have any of the typical mouth breather signs except a long face (which is still long, but definitely wider and with facial hair it looks normal). good luck anon
>>28363395
Don't be too sure. My parents bought the scam of braces when I didn't need them. The orthodontist did all kinds of stuff to fuck up my jaw development. Rubber bands, a "spacer" that fucked up my palet formation. All that cosmetic shit for my teeth being "straight" but they ruined my jaw and my bite is on my front teeth only.
Orthodontia, "wisdom" teeth extraction, genital mutilation - it was all cosmetic bullshit that's ruined my social life and left me bullied and in pain.
If you didn't have braces, be glad. They can really fuck you up trying to get their money.
>>28364878
shit, do i have class 2 just because of lip incompetence? my jaw isn't that bad, my lips just pucker out. how the fuck do i fix my class 2? expensive surgery? who do i go and what do i tell them
>strengthen your lips muscles
how the hell do i do that
>>28364728
>no way
Yeah there is. It's called an osteotomy. They break the bone, realign it and then eventually new bone grows. As for the shape and thickness, just get implants.
I agree about the parenting though. Your mouth decides 99% of your facial structure.
>>28364963
Lip incompetence is caused by excessive thumb-sucking or mouth breathing usually. Idk if you have a class 2, but if you have lip incompetence there's a good chance you do.
>>28364907
Legit. Orthodontics is pseudoscience and all orthodontists who give out braces or perform extractions should be hung and scalped.
>>28365055
Is there such a thing as a class two that's not horrible
Too much of a pussy to post a pic but I definitely don't have a severe a fucked up face as any of the people in the pic, I just have dick sucking lips
>>28365156
Yeah. It could just be really mild, or you could just be a chronic thumb-sucker.
Did you suck your thumb alot as a kid?
>>28365235
no, but i mouth breathed a lot because i had sinus problems and my parents told me it was ok to
>>28364963
start making out with girls
>>28362841
>all these LE MOUTHBREATHER replies
You fags need to stop taking that one youtube video so seriously.
>>28365304
>my parents told me it was ok to
>my parents told me it was okay to permanently disfigure my face
>mfw
You probably just have a mild class 2 then.
Tell your parent they're awful people for doing that to you.
Mouth breathing fucks up a whole lot more than just your face.
>>28365358
Like?
Originally
I think it's really sad that most people don't reach their full potential cause of shit like in this thread
I bet most people could be attractive if they did everything right as they were growing(got enough exercise, had good body and mouth posture, ate the right foods etc)
>>28365352
Shut your manlet, small dick, high cortisol producing, low testosterone producing, low growth hormone producing, weak chronically fatigued mouth breathing ass up boi.
Mouth breathing fucks up people's lives! It can turn you from a genetically predisposed 10/10 Chad into a 1/10 Micheal Cera.
>>28365358
great, what horrific damage have i done to myself?
>>28365395
>less secration of ghf-1 by the pituatory gland
>fucked hormonal profile
>can effect the onset and duration of your puberty
>can give you brain damage if done since childhood
>can stunt the maturation of your gentilia, so possibly infertility and small pee-pee
>bad posture
>premature closure of the epiphyseal plates, or if you're lucky the reverse (at the expense of having hyperthyroidism and small cock)
>higher secretion of the stress hormone cortisol
>euchanoid body type
>chronic fatigue
>insomina
>hypertension
>deathif you do that shit at night brahs
All bad stuff.
>>28365352
Mouth breathing is terrible even if it doesn't have any bad affects(which I think it does)
Jaw surgery is a cope. If you can afford it, you probably arent incel to begin with. If you cant afford it then obsessing over it wont help and thinking youll get all these procedures done one day and get a gf is a huge cope.
>>28365627
It's free in parts of Europe
>>28365576
>have ALL of that
..............................................................
well. ok. how the fuck do i fix all this??????
>>28365576
Oh yeah, I forgot anxiety and possible estrogen deficeny which leads to an eggman-esque, tall, womanly, tits and pot-belly hermphodite body type.
It's weird because you'd think the opposite (estrogen bad, testosterone good), but Estrogen is actually really good for your bones or some shit.
You'll be 6'2 because your growth plates never seal, but you'll also look like a eunuch.
>>28365576
>possible infertility and small peepee
>tfw parents said it was ok to breathe through mouth
>cut AND small dick
FUCK
>>28363557
>tfw was mouth breather as a kid
>One day notice I look stupid when I leave my mouth hanging open
>Work on keeping it shut and breathe with my nose
>mfw it probably saved my jaw
>>28365723
Depends. If your growth plates haven't sealed up and you haven't finished puberty yet, you can fix it simply by nose breathing and keeping good mouth posture >>28364452
Your hormones will eventually catch up with your peers. You can try meditation, listening to music and not drinking coffee to get your cortisol level back to normal.
Bad posture can be fixed by going to see a chiropractor.
Brain damage is forever though.
>>28365741
-MY SHIT UP MOM AND DAD!
>>28365676
Where exactly? What countries? For citizens only?
>>28365723
See a doctor too. As soon as possible no Rocky.
>>28365731
That happened to me but I don't mouth breath
Guess I was just unlucky
>>28365823
im 19
>brain damage
ok how do i tell if i have this
is that why im a lazy fuckup?
>>28365850
Atleast you aren't a manlet.
>>28365839
UK, possibly other countries
Yes
Also I was waiting a while though. Also they say they don't do it for cosmetics but they usually do anyway
>>28365872
>is this why im a lazy fuckup
Dunno. It's why I'm a lazy fuckup though.
Go see a doctor and voice your concerns. They can give you an MRI scan probably.
>>28365845
>>28365922
>tfw no insurance
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
>>28365819
>mouth breather as a kid
The mental damage is already done by then Anon.
>>28365845
>no Rocky
What?
>>28365974
>The mental damage is already done by then
Might be why I'm autistic
>>28365969
Buy some breath right strips.
>>28365989
Like the rapper.
>>28366009
Yes. Taking shallow, rapid breaths through your mouth floods your brain and body COTizzle whilst stimultaneously depriving your brain of Otizzle. Ya' fizzle? Childhood is when your brain is developing the most. It's a critical time.
>>28365576
Brain damage? I doubt it. As long as you breath, you're fine, right?
what do if clench jaw super tight on accident a lot
>>28366154
>>28366153
Your nose filters out a lot of the CO2 that you breath in with your air, Anon. It's there for a reason.
Besides, look at my previous post. That's just 1 minutes worth of mouth-breathing simulation. Imagine doing that day after day after day as a kid.
Will the brain damage be serious? Probably not. Abysmal? Maybe. But air is just air? No brain damage from chronic mouth breathing from childhood to adulthood? Unlikely.
>>28366272
Bruxism? Maybe? You're good dude. It's not going to fuck you up like mouth breathing.
>>28366323
oh fuck me i have shit teeth like that too. htf do i fix all this neet bullshit
>>28366443
Stop grinding your teeth, Chad.
leave this fucking board while ypu're at it.
The only side effect of bruxism is fucked teeth and a Brad Pitt jawline.
>>28366526
this
i wish my only issue was bruxism lol i grind my teeth too though and honestly square teeth dont look too bad but gum disease is no joke
