>i love hispanics!
What did he mean by this?
>>28361644
>election day is getting close and I'm not gonna win if I don't get the brown people's vote
>>28361644
Hispanic here, wtf is he eating?
>>28361883
>thats not real hispanic food may may
>>28361644
He means he loves hispanics.
>>28361644
hey faggot. This is /r9k/
You want /pol/
get the fuck out of here. Nobody here gives a shit about this. And if they do give a shit, they're most likely already cruising /pol/...
fucking paid shills don't even know how to use 4chan.
So I guess the twist is that Trump actually loves Mexicans?
/pol/cucks btfo yet again.
>>28361950
wew lad
originala;ourga;jebga;ie
>>28361644
>"omg trump is full of hate"
>" I love (insert group of people). t. Trump"
>"fucking trump is hitler, we must kill him and all whites"
>>28361950
>Trump
>paid shills
Lel. The man is a master of having the internet do his work for him. 4chan ARE his shills.
>>28361950
>Nobody here gives a shit about this
just how much of a newfag are you?
Welp, election's over everyone, he's going to get the hispanic vote now, wrap it up Libcucks.
>>28361644
>office looks like utter shit
I figured he'd be a more organized person. Welp, looks like I'm voting for Hillary.
>>28361950
>telling /pol/ to get out
tippity top kek
>>28361644
who /hispanic4trump/ here?
He loves Hispanics... what do you think he is eating?
...he is eating the ground flesh of illegals
>>28362725
here
illegal immigrants give us a bad name
I worked hard for this visa, fuck them
Trump's gonna pull a Reagan and legalize all the illegals.
>>28362765
>I memorized a couple of civics questions and the pledge of allegiance dat mean i'm better than spic x)
Yeah, boss I bet that test took like... minutes. Lmao get over yourself.
>>28362725
Man, Trump's really flooding the pepe market. Invest in memes.
>>28362725
>>28362765
Lol, you'd literally have to be a self-cuck to support Trump after he insulted you and the other browns.
Even if you're legal you're still a cuck for supporting him. He groups all you browns in together.
>>28362890
That's naturalization. A visa is wayyyy harder to get
>supporting trump
>not realizing trump is a JIDF puppet
>>28362948
Hillary is a bigger jidf puppet
Also he isn't funded by kike money, if you haven't somehow heard that yet
>>28362890
I'm still a spic, buddy
the difference is I didn't break any laws like a moron
>>28362924
he insulted illegal immigrants form mexico specifically, not "all browns"
now when you show me where he said something bad about ALL mexicans/hispanics we can talk
>>28362765
>>28362725
You think that's going to help you guys when the Trump Youth come knocking?
>B-but I'm not illegal!
YOU HAVE TO GO BACK
>>28363018
please
I have plenty of nationalist white friends
the liberal media you listen to without question will never show you this, but trust me when I say not all nationalists are neo nazis
>>28362725
Only mexicana and centralamerican peasants could dislike trump
>>28362924
>Listen up, PoC, and let me tell you how you're oppressed
>>28361644
it means he only likes the food, which is what every libcuck says verbatim when they like x race/country's people.
i hope this saying regarding food births into another SJW faggot micro-aggression so they can constantly trigger into hating themselves.
>>28361644
His expression in that pic says:
>I love you dirty fucking bean-colored spixicans and your greasy disgusting food. Hurry up and take the photo, Pedro! What the hell am I paying you $5 for? PUSHO EL ROJO BUTTON ESSE, COMPRENDE?
>>28361950
low fucking energy
>>28363147
I'm a proud, intelligent fascist and I dislike trump.
>>28363263
who do you think is a better candidate
>>28363277
Whoever leads the next military coup.
>>28361661
He has a lot of backpedaling to do with hispanics if he wants to win the election. Women, too.
>>28361644
Maybe he actually does love hispanics? He just wants to deport illegals. Are you saying that all hispanics are illegal?
>>28362985
>>28363082
That's because basically you are a self-hating cuck who wishes he was white.
It doesn't take a lot to infer that he thinks that brown people in general are a potential problem, because they are either illegals (all spics) or terrorists (all muslims).
>>28363018
This exactly. In the eyes of people there is no difference between a legal and an illegal, because you are both brown and you look exactly the same. Grow some balls for once and don't tolerate any of this shit.
Hillary/Bern are shit as well, but I think that goes without saying. But there is nothing sadder than a Hispanic voting Trump.
>>28361928
>that image
That's actually kind of sad desu. Do you think he had that there because he was going through some feels?
>>28363314
I do wonder what trump has said about women to be called a misogynist
or in what way what he really said was misrepresented by the media, I mean
>>28363340
His ex wife in that picture is actually still in love with him. She said so in an interview a few months back. It is why she doesn't date.
>>28363339
yeah, and if trump wins, all black people will be sent back to africa!
get out of here, liberal media puppet
>>28362019
Everyone knows hitler rose to power by telling people that the jews loved him.
>>28363353
probably some of the stuff he's said on his reality shows. it was brought up during his first debate, i think.
>>28363339
>He's a racist, you can tell from this inference I made
Are you actually memeing or what?
This logic is just plain wrong.
>>28363353
He's talked some shit about his ex wives on twitter and shit. Never made any political statements about women, but to liberals his personal opinions might as well be his political goals and are valid reasons to hate him.
I'm Hispanic voting for Trump. He has never said anything bad about us, nobody can ever find the supposed racist comments he's made.
>>28363398
>an internet "alternative" media puppet calling a liberal media puppet a puppet.
LOL
>>28363496
>I'm Hispanic voting for Trump
I'm black and voting for trump. Ignore my white skin.
>>28363018
>>28363339
>Democrats actually think like that people will be deported by civilians going door to door spouting memes
>They will use this as an actual reason for trump being a racist
>They will use """"inferences""""" as actual """proof""" that someone is a racist
Maybe we do need trump
>>28363542
t. berncuck
originalasubgapi
>>28363496
You're that white poster from above aren't you ?
>>28363496
Also Hispanic. 3rd generation American. Voting for Trump. Mostly because illegals stole both my parents social security numbers and ruined their lives.
>>28363563
t. A FUCKING WHITE MALE
>>28363537
>"alternative media"
I watch trump rallies from the comfort of my house and then read about politics
such "alternative" media
>>28363596
3rd generation white american. Voting for hillary.
>>28363353
His recent statements on Hillary "playing the woman card" for one.
>>28363496
>>28363596
You couldn't be a more obvious shill if you tried.
>>28363682
I am a transblack man voting for trump.
#TransblackVotesMatter
>>28363675
well yeah, care to explain how that's factually wrong or sexist?
she IS playing the woman card
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jillian-gutowitz/im-voting-for-hillary-clinton-because-shes-a-woman_b_8684910.html
>>28361644
He didn't eat that. More than likely threw it out the window.
>>28363353
Feminists are very sensitive. If you so much as look at a women wrong they will call you sexist. They don't do this to random fucks on the street they just think it to themselves but for famous people they will say it to them.
>>28363682
Sure jackass. I hope an illegal steals your SSN that would be karma. Hopefully it fucks up your finances so badly it drives you to suicide.
>>28363706
So you agree with his statements? That she would have never gotten as far as she did if she were a man?
>"Frankly, if Hillary Clinton were a man, I don't think she'd get 5 percent of the vote. The only thing she's got going is the women's card,"
Those are his exact words.
>>28363772
>So you agree with his statements? That she would have never gotten as far as she did if she were a man?
yes
in fact, if she was a man she would be in prison
but let's ignore all that and focus on trump being "sexist"
>>28363772
what is sexist about that?
>>28363573
Nope.
>>28363682
The only shills here are the people perpetuating the bullshit about Trump. If he actually said anything that was anti-Hispanic, I would be the first off the Trump train. He hasn't though, ever.
The fact of the matter is if you're Hispanic and you and your parents are here legally then you have absolutely no reason to be offended by anything Trump has said. Fuck illegals.
>>28363772
>>28363797
What this guy said. If she was male she would be in prison right now for the email scandal. A couple years ago a guy from the CIA was put in prison for that exact same crime she committed but only had a couple emails instead of tens of thousands.
>>28363772
That's an accurate statement. Same shit applies to Obama. Being black is literally the only reason he was elected.
>>28363828
>Fuck illegals
Yeah fuck people who just want to have better lives for their families, what assholes xD!!
>>28363797
>yes
>in fact, if she was a man she would be in prison
LOL. Well okay, let's agree to disagree that those events would happen in a parallel universe or something. But let's take a look at reality for a second.
Take a look at the senate, congress or anything else. Notice something? Yes, they are almost ALL males. The comparison is not even close. You're free to look up the statistics if you feel that there are that many women elected if you'd like, Google exists.
There is no woman card. Fact. Women are elected at a much lower rate than men. It's not a plus for Hillary, if anything it's a hardship.
Trump is full of shit and pandering to angry voters with no educational resources.
>>28363839
His name is Jeffrey Sterling if anyone was wondering. He is mentioned in quite a few articles on Hillary's email crimes. He committed the same exact crime and was aggressively charged by the obama administration.
>>28363916
Hillary's marriage to Bill plus their last name is a major reason why she is in the position she is in. If she were a man, she wouldn't be married to a former president.
>>28363916
>There is no woman card. Fact.
Except there is. Fact.
>Women are elected at a much lower rate than men
Less women get into politics than men.
It's an advantage for Hillary and she knows it because she uses that card every chance she gets. There is never a missed opportunity for Hillary to remind you she's a woman.
Spic here voting for Hillary, we all go down :^)
>>28363977
You can't even vote Pedro.
>>28361644
Maybe he loves hispanics?
>>28363916
>nuh uh, you're wrong
>also did you hear about the patriarchy????
it's not relevant to the discussion at all but I'm going to bring it up anyway!
>boo hoo trump is bad
>>28363916
>there is no woman card in the era liberals who hate males just for being male
Yeah okay.
Trump Tower Grill doesn't even serve taco bowls
>>28364000
>calls their culture filthy
>calls them lazy
>calls them criminals and rapists
What a nice fellow.
>>28363993
>He thinks the election won't be rigged, he thinks you can change things with votes, he thinks the Jews haven't already planned everything out
Lol
>>28364008
The world is not the internet or a college campus. SJWs are a tiny minority. Just like Trump voters.
>>28364025
>can't differentiate between illegals and legal citizens, unlike Trump
>>28364025
source? he only calls illegals those things. Illegals can get to fuck
>>28364030
Illegals cannot vote in federal elections.
>>28363716
Dude, its a taco salad. Everyone loves texmex.
>>28363959
>>Women are elected at a much lower rate than men
>Less women get into politics than men.
Because it's a male dominated profession where women are less likely to succeed. The exact opposite of having some sort of inherent advantage? Because it hasn't been demonstrated to be factual in any way, shape or form throughout history.
>>28364025
>implying Mexicans aren't all those things
There is a reason every other Hispanic group dislikes Mexicans.
>>28364057
>>28364060
You know damn well that illegals are the majority of Mexicans in the US. He's basically calling all Mexicans illegals.
And most illegals are innocent people who should stay.
>>28364094
>>Because it's a male dominated profession where women are less likely to succeed
Based on what? Just because there's less women in something doesn't mean they have any inherent disadvantage, it just means less women are interested in that thing.
Men and women aren't the same. They have different interests and priorities. Being a woman is a huge advantage in 2016 especially with the rise of socially liberal ideals in the west, that's just a fact.
>>28363916
>muh patriarchy
ever thought women get elected at lower rates because they apply at lower rates?
>Trump is full of shit and pandering to angry voters with no educational resources.
>no educational resources
I recommend you read this short article
"The smug style in American liberalism"
http://www.vox.com/2016/4/21/11451378/smug-american-liberalism
keep making fun of uneducated people and pretending you care about the poor, libshit
>>28364080
The liberals would like to change that, if it means they can buy more votes.
>MAKE ALL ILLEGALS CITIZENS
>no pressure, but you basically owe us and should vote democrat for life now
>Trump posts a picture of a taco salad
>500k likes on facebook
>Media frenzy
Fucking based. Trump can't lose.
>>28364052
The US is by and large socially liberal so yeah, being a woman is a huge advantage. There are more women than men in the US and there are more female voters than male voters. Women lean far more towards liberalism than men, that is a fact. Liberals suck that man-hating affirmative action cock hence Hillary has a huge advantage over Trump. Especially since Trump is not only a White male, he's a rich White male and people hate rich people.
>>28364114
>He's basically calling all Mexicans illegals.
No, he isn't.
>>28361644
Hispanics are fine, but like this taco salad, illegals need a wall to keep the shit out and the good taco inside.
>>28361644
they are building the fundations for the new america
>>28364114
>He's basically calling all Mexicans illegals.
Witness here, the dysfunction of the liberal brain.
>>28364114
>illegals are good boys they dindu nuffin
Fuck illegals. They place a huge strain on our education and healthcare systems, they drive down wages, they commit crimes at a disproportionately high rate and they drive up car insurance costs for everyone else. Also, Trump did not imply or say that. You're putting those words in his mouth.
>>28364104
Yes, and guess what. When there's a change here in my nation. If it's in my lifetime I personally will do all I can so my country can have vengeance upon every disgusting sudaca inferior, every filthy gachupin degenerate, and every imbecilic gringo who has ridiculed and humiliated my nation and my people. It's highly probable that you won't pay for this but your ancestors will. We will not be miserable forever and when the tables turn and when my Mexico has a fully stocked nuclear arsenal, state-of-the-art fighter jets, tanks and a fully modernized military, you will all ask for forgiveness and I will make sure to indoctrinate my people to never forget the constant humiliations.
We would have a fortification Berlin wall style between Sudacaland and my nation if we had a real nationalist man in power. Consider yourself lucky that my country is the way it is right now.
Trump is going to win the election.
>Clinton is a known criminal
>Clinton has taken millions from Wall Street while screaming "I'm out there fighting Wall Street!"
>"All liberals are SJWs", this one is probably the most brilliant tactic of the past decade. Liberals went from being "sorta cool" when Obama was elected to being the shame of society in 2016 because if you're a liberal then you're a gender fluid SJW who hates all white males.
>>28364114
>He's basically calling all Mexicans illegals
Yeah no that's not how it works Carlos.
Illegal immigrants are a problem, where they come from is irrelevant. I don't care if some of them are nice dudes who sell you weed, they came here illegally, fuck your feelings and fuck off.
>>28364159
>muh patriarchy
>ever thought women get elected at lower rates because they apply at lower rates?
If you had any grasp of history, you'd know there was a time that women couldn't even vote, and politics was considered a male exclusive profession.
It's stuff like this, history, uphill battles, fucking context that makes your remarks and views of current events to be so short-sighted.
It's always been an uphill battle for women, and it still is. They're less than 20% of representatives for half the population.
Women do not have an inherent advantage. The woman "card" does not exist.
>>28363546
>2016
>being this much of a bigot
just stop
>>28363339
I can feel your anxiety from here, you're so afraid of Trump.
Good hispanics will vote for him, you know why ? Because fuck liberalism and fuck you. Go pick up your wife's son.
>>28364253
>blaming illegal aliens for shitty schools, shitty hospitals, corporate judaism, and car insurance judaism
u wot m8?
>>28363314
What has he ever said that is inherently offensive to all Hispanics?
What has he ever said that is inherently offensive to all women?
What has he ever said that is actually offensive and not just the media pushing an agenda?
>>28364253
>>28364274
>droning on and on about Trump rhetoric again
Lmao you people didn't even give a fuck 4 years ago, which makes me think you're not even old enough to vote :^)
>>28364281
>The woman "card" does not exist.
Really, then what is Hillary Clinton using? Literally the only reason she's ahead of Sanders is because she has a vagina. Clinton is as corrupt as they come.
>>28364316
Not an argument. try again
>>28364267
>but your ancestors will
wew lad, learn your shit my friend.
My parents are first generation immigrants from Argentina and Portugal. Guess what, being from either doesn't give you a free pass to go into the USA and shit it up like your people do, they had to come here legally.
When there is a change in your nation, that will be great! that means you can stay over there.
Your country is humiliated for being shit, just like Argentina is now, and Spain is starting to be now, or how Chile used to be. If you wanted a hugbox of everyone telling you everthing is okay, your nation would never get better.
So yes, its shit now, so fix it and stop waiting for someone else to do it. Mexico isn't a nigger nation. If you guys can work so hard in the USA, work hard in Mexico instead.
>>28364313
this
>>28364281
>If you had any grasp of history, you'd know there was a time that women couldn't even vote, and politics was considered a male exclusive profession.
yeah and they always had the option of being housewives (aka easiest job in the world)
>It's always been an uphill battle for women
>Women do not have an inherent advantage.
wow poor wymyn they have to fight so hard to do men's jobs even though they dont need to
>>28363366
she's proly just in love with his money.
>>28364316
>>28364310
It's not rhetoric you retards. I spent most of my life living in a Californian city with tons of illegals. I have experienced all of this shit firsthand.
Teacher/student ratios in public schools would be lower if Pablo and Juanita's 10 children weren't clogging up the school systems. Wait times at emergency rooms would be lower if the waiting room didn't have a dozen illegals waiting for treatment at all times. You have to pay more for car insurance if you live in an area with lots of illegals because they don't use car insurance. Illegals commit crime at a rate that rivals niggers.
>>28364316
Hello, increasingly nervous man.
>which makes me think you're not even old enough to vote
If that were the case Trump would've have stomped the shit out the competition so hard in the primaries. The people want Trump, the people love Trump, this is a democracy and you're going to have to deal with the fact that you're going to lose.
>>28364372
wouldn't have* stomped the competition
>>28363916
>Isn't it about time we had a female president
>roaring applause
>there is a woman card
Much fewer women get into politics than men and since that is the case there are less competent women in politics than men. Women are elected more than they should be because they are female, they are often less competent than their competitors simply because there are less of them in politics.
Also
>8 years of first black president
>next pres will be the first female president
totally not winning based on race or sex though right?
hilary is just a great candidate right?
Am I replying to obvious bait, I feel that I might be.
>>28363314
top tier cringe post here
why is /r9k/ full of retards that get their politics from facebook now
>>28364313
Doesn't need to be "inherently offensive to all" members of a certain race or ethnicity to be a racially charged comment or attack.
His comments on Mexican immigrants being thieves and rapists, you don't see how a lot of immigrants to the United States may be taken aback by such comments? Not even just former mexicans.
>>28364052
>trump voters are a tiny minority
that's why the other republicans dropped out lmao
>>28364281
>>28364355
really, stop pushing the lie that women were ever "oppressed"
they had easy lives and little freedom, unlike men who had hard lvies and more freedom
nowadays feminism is turning women into men, that's all
>>28364094
Or maybe thousands of years of women and men playing drastically different roles and the differences between estrogen and testosterone play a part?
>>28364318
She's also winning because she's establishment and she appeals to the core of the party though.
>>28364422
It's facebook meme shit sure but there's a grain of truth to it.
He can't win after the democrats have successfully brainwashed people into thinking he's racist and sexist. It's a commonly accepted lie that he' said anything negative about all mexicans and all muslims sure but that wont stop people from not voting for him.
>>28364363
just saying you could blame 15 other things for your car insurance and having to wait at the hospital before illegal aliens who only make up 3% of the entire population and only 6% of the population of california.
>>28363339
>brown people in general are a potential problem, because they are either illegals (all spics) or terrorists (all muslims).
this is what you believe
trump talked about sending the illegals back, and you take it to mean that he wants to deport hispanics
>But there is nothing sadder than a Hispanic voting Trump.
why? do you think all hispanics want a flood of illegals, and to let the cartels run the border? a large portion of hispanics in the USA aren't even mexican
who's the racist now? you, but I'm probably more racist.
>>28364424
Dipshit, do you even know what he actually said? He said "some" of them are thieves, which is true, and "some" of them are rapists, which is true, and "some" of them are good people, which is true. If you Mexicans take offense at people calling out the shit you toss across our southern border and expect us to just pretend it doesn't exist, you've got a problem.
>>28364565
>He said "some" of them are thieves, which is true, and "some" of them are rapists
no you fucking liar, he said "they are rapists" and then said "some" of them are good people.
>>28364348
I meant descendants. Typo while writing my magnificent passionate rant.
I love my country no matter how shit and if I don't see it become great in this lifetime, I will die with the comfort of knowing that it will be one day. I am doing my part. My nation has a world power potential that is limited by democracy and a population of lazy, obese imbeciles. But the great thing about living in a failing state is the volatility. One day, could be this year or even 80 years from now, the bomb will explode and we'll have the change that we need. If I can't fight, I will indoctrinate, and if I am dead, I will leave my rightist legacy to my future children.
My Mexico will be great while your nation will rot in stupidity and stagnation. The tables will turn, we'll have the pan by the handle and my nation will become relevant in the world stage. also nukes
>>28364540
When that illegal crashes into your car, cuz he was jamming to the mariachi music a little too much, is his insurance gonna pay for it? No, cuz he doesn't have any.
>>28364565
>>28364611
The real question is, "Why did he say it at all?"
It's obvious he's trying to race-bait angry white working class males who have been fucked by the economic interests of the upper class but can't quite put their finger on who's squeezing their wallets.
If he wins, Trump fans are going to be unpleasantly surprised to see he isn't the miracle worker he claims to be. He's still bound by the legislative rules of Washington - none of which he seems to have any sort of experience with.
>I'm not a racist buuut I hate all those filthy, ugly, thieving, raping, SSN-stealing, job-taking, fat, loud-music-playing, no-English-speaking, taco-eating, border-hoppin', cartel-member-bein' spics mmmmhmmmm
Why are you guys so afraid of embracing your racism?
>>28364780
t. sheltered upper-middle class liberal who has never had to live around illegals
>>28364699
But I have insurance.
>>28364699
when that 0.01% of an illegal crashing into my car happens he'll be more fucked than me anyway considering i have good insurance that pays for my shit whether im hit by an uninsured driver or not
>>28362924
You know he's literally married to an immigrant right?
>>28364780
The irony is that, as someone who absolutely hates racists, I would have much more respect for someone to just "come out" about being a bigot instead of having to deny it from all angles constantly.
You're not alone. There's a lot of people like you and they're easy to spot. Just fucking say it and stop with the denial.
>>28364810
remember, he wants to keep illegals around so he can keep his money and not pay you for the things you would do at a legal wage.
>>28364866
And then follow it up by insulting all low-skilled/unskilled Americans by saying "lol you deserve to be unemployed if your job is taken by an illegal" while tweeting about how all jobs should pay a living wage.
I live in south texas and illegals are a problem. They rape other legal hispanics, sell drugs to middle schoolers and high schoolers, recruit high schoolers into gangs, they commit a lot of violent crimes, they don't pay taxes, our taxes are used to give them handouts.
They cost this country a whole lot of fucking money a year and they're not even citizens. They honestly should be shot dead or put into slave labor.
You guys sound like those ghetto niggs when Obama was elected.
>i's gon get me summa dat obama money n shieeeet we president now niuuuuukuuuuuh
>Golly gee, I am getting some of those Trump jobs and all. It's good to have a white man as president
Trump voters are literally niggers.
>>28364114
>most illegals are innocent
If you are illegal, you have already broken multiple laws, and are by no means ''innocent''.
>>28364936
You break multiple laws just by existing.
>>28364924
>They honestly should be shot dead or put into slave labor
Woah there buddyboy watch those edges
>>28364950
>fuck laws and borders n shit
fucking open border globalists.
>>28364780
Trump has never said that before. Just because someone is opposed to illegal immigrants doesn't mean they believe all of those things. I agree that if you do believe those things then you should be able to admit that but you don't know that Trump or his supporters believe that. Even if some of his supporters do, that doesn't mean they all do.
>>28364528
>brainwashed
Naaaaahhh I'm pretty sure he's a genuinely shitty guy, /pol/tard.
>>28364988
>smokes weed
>watched porn before the age of 18
>drives over the speed limit
>keep a chair within 3 feet of a door
FUCKING CRIMINAL YOU NEED TO BE FUCKING SHOT ON SIGHT RREEEEE
>>28364965
>le edjy meimei of ebinicness
>>28364997
give one example of why Trump is a ''shitty guy'' that isnt your brainwashed MSNBC/buzzfeed tier belief that he called all mexicans rapists and that muslims are a race and not a religion.
>>28364924
>I live in south texas
Don't you mean north mexico, puto?
>>28364995
>just because someone opposes the Jews and pushes them out of their country doesn't mean they are against them
>tfw a Robot who hates the Jews the same way Trump hates the Mexicans can even realize this anon's logic is fucky
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tu1otiBLPko
>>28365027
>implying any of those things
smoking will kill you and is degenerate, porn is degenerate, I dont want to pay traffic fines so wont speed, and why would I block my door with a chair? What kind of retard does that?
And most of all- are you actually comparing borders and immigration (a national security and numbers issue) to watching internet porn or speeding? Thats not even straw at that point.
>>28365059
honestly the kids/teenagers/young adults are pretty american, being raised by the internet and shit
almost everyone has smart phones, ipads, and laptops
chinga tu madre, culero
>>28365063
>all Mexicans are illegal
No anon, I think you are the racist here.
>>28365054
>IMPLYING I WATCH MSNBC
>IMPLYING MY BIGGEST DESIRE IN LIFE IS NOT TO ERADICATE THE WORLD OF THE JEWS AND LIVE IN THE IDEAL FASCIST SOCIETY
TOP MOTHER FUCKING KEK, ANON. NICE GENERALIZATION!
Anyway
See my post here
>>28365063
If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, and has a corkscrew penis, well, it must be a duck.
You must be the cutting edge everyone is talking about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge_AmmZALjs
>>28365100
Nah Texas queers are edgy little betas who fantasize about shooting spics but their assholes pucker and they sweat profusely from fear when they hear old mexican guys speaking in Spanish near them.
>>28365122
Lol are you fucking autistic?
I hate the Jews like Trump hates the Mexicans.
>with heavy stereotyping and general solution
>pure unadulterated hatred
Do you even fucking read, nigger fucker?
Plus, I never claimed to not be a racist lol
>>28365130
yeah, how does you memeing about jews make Trump a shitty person? He has never said anything about Americans (of hispanic or latino decent).
btw using all caps doesnt get your point across further, it just makes you seem further incapable of forming a thought. So again- please link one example of what makes Trump a ''shitty guy''.
>>28365168
What makes you think Trump hates the Mexican people? He mostly has talked about the country, its leaders, and the illegals who come over (who are traitors to Mexico and not citizens of either country).
>>28365168
Well okay, my point still stands though how does Trump hate Mexicans? He has never, ever said anything that makes him seem like he actually hates them. Sure he doesn't give a fuck if he offends them but that's called being a real human being.
>>28365204
>you're a traitor if you don't stay in that shithole to starve to death
>>28365180
>being this dull
The literary term for this is called a "metaphor", m80.
>ITT: /pol/ proving their lack of education
Trump has spoken about building a wall to separate our two great countries. You can be a cock sucker and imply that
>"He doesn't hate Mexicans! He's not shitty! It's just to protect immigration!"
But come on, man. He wants to waste our tax dollars
Our NINETEEN TRILLION IN DEBT tax dollars
...
For a fucking wall.
THAT HALF OF US DON'T EVEN AGREE WITH.
Because you do not like Mexicans (which don't even effect you, NEET fuck).
>>28365217
>he's never explicitly said "I hate mexicans" there fore he doesn't hate them XDDD
Autism or straight up mental retardation?
>>28365167
the illegals aren't so tough
there's a reason they left mexico
This isn't about winning back the spic vote, it's about making white people (women) more comfortable with voting for him, partially because they already want to. /pol/ likes it because its goofy, and a shitpost. Women will register it as "oh well at least he said he liked Hispanics with a taco bowl" because that's literally how they think. I'm not kidding.
My sister is a Bernfag who dropped out of college and would say she hated his guts yesterday. After this post her opinion already has begun to shift from "le ebil racyst" to "goofball" and as everyone who has spent 5 minutes here knows, that's the first step towards genuine affection. Just look at Baneposting. At first it was a shit scene made in a hack movie. Then it was a nonsensical, goofy scene. Now /tv/ genuinely loves the scene. Trump is a master of persuasion.
>>28365180
Not him, but personally, I feel Trump's biggest shortcoming is he never apologizes or admits any sort of wrongdoing. Aside from that being a trait of sociopaths and celebrities with god complexes, it's not a healthy or desirable trait in other people.
Furthermore, he can't seem to take any sort of criticism and shrug it off. He gets into arguments - no matter how meaninglessness or petty on Twitter or elsewhere and is easily manipulated through his own kneejerk responses.
He's just a shitty person with no political experience.
>>28365217
>you can be a real human being and not be outwardly shitty
>I am ding very well for myself while still hating the Jew dogs because I shut the fuck up about it
>you haven't learned this, it is why you are probably still on /r9k/ shilling strangers who do not agree with your views
See
>>28365245
>>28365232
>your country is a shithole
>leave it and infect another country to make it a shithole as well
3rd worlders are a plague, m8
>>28365288
It's just your autism and sociopathy that prevents you from having any sort of empathy. I can't expect anything less from a group of people who cheer when 'roasties' are raped and who idolize school shooters.
>>28365232
>everyone in Mexico is starving to death
>not staying to help your country men
>leaving and letting it go further into the gutter
>being a shitty coward
>>28365245
>/pol/ this /pol/ that
what the fuck are you even on about? not everyone who disagrees with you is '/pol/' you fucking newfaggot nigger.
The wall wont cost the tax payers shit, considering it will come out of the trade deficit money we lose to mexico, and all the money we spend on illegals each year. Beyond that, its a simple numbers game, see below.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE
Its not about ''hating'' anyone, its about accessing the reality of the situation. The reality is the country can not take as many people as it currently is, and it is already a huge strain on our system. Just look at CA, where almost half the prison population consists of illegals- that American tax money pays to feed and house.
You should stop projecting so much.
>>28365250
>he never stated anything it, but it must be true because I said so!
k.
>>28365250
>>28365286
You two are fucking retards. Trump has only ever talked about how illegal immigrants economically affect the U.S. he is a business man that is his whole shtick. Also that one statement about rapists was still focused on crime and not on race at all. But of course you have fallen for the bullshit from the media so you believe whatever they tell you.
>>28361644
>Hey, you. Yeah, you. Media establishment who's trying to convince everyone that social justice issues are the only issues that plague America right now.
>Yeah, you, I'm talking to you.
>You, the ones who make up these retarded fake issues to keep everyone arguing over their faggy identities, while international banking monopolies continue to fill congress with plants and waste billions of dollars on programs designed to ostensibly transform the planet into a single world government, on American taxpayer dime
>You've controlled the media since 1995. You've used your somewhat above average abstract thought skills to form a reality where you define the rules of civility in order to create a code of behavior for citizens to follow, to keep them under your thumb. You've made them afraid of themselves and of others, by manipulating their altruistic instincts and have turned them into automatons programmed to police the language/thought of themselves and others
>And it was working... for a while. Until the voters realized that despite all of the support they're giving to your social justice causes, and your vague sentiment of "social progress," their jobs are still being exported to other countries
>They don't trust you anymore. The record voter turnout for me, in the primaries alone indicate that they don't trust you anymore. The fact that I've become the presumptive nominee by eliminating 17 other candidates and still surpassed Romney's popular vote, just in primary seasons, speaks for itself.
>The people don't care about social justice anymore. They don't care about these stupid fucking issues, and it scares you. And I enjoy watching you squirm and suffer.
>So I'm going to lay this this b8, and you're going to bite it and give me free publicity like you always do.
>Does this look like the face of fucking mercy?
>>28365262
>
Those are Guatemalans btw
>>28365338
You'd do the same. Faster. If your country was a shithole.
>/r9k/ users calling anyone weak
You're not even strong enough to talk to a woman.
this thread is political outsider approved
>>28365232
>>28365288
>implying Mexico is a shithole
>implying it isn't a bastion of free market principles
It produced one of the richest men on earth.
>>28365338
>>/pol/ this /pol/ that
Nice cumback faggot
Agreeing with Trump is inherently /pol/ new friend. Haven't been around long?
Just because you watched a right-wing, pro-Trump YouTube video doesn't mean shit you fucking autistic. You literally reak of fucking /pol/
>"I'm nawt listenin', I'm nawt listenin'!"
>>28365351
LMAOOO you literally have ready NOTHING in this entire fucking thread, have you? You saw buzzwords, made your post, and scrolled to the bottom of the thread to await responses?
>ITT: EVERYONE posts, nobody reads
>>28365328
>empathy to outsiders
>relevant to running a good government
>>28361644
the fuck is he eating?
that's no mexican food, for sure
>>28365279
thank you for the well thought out reply. I can agree that he is a narcissist- in many ways, that makes me trust him more. He wishes to have a legacy beyond 'rich playboy with a perfect family' and wants that legacy to be 'the best businessman and job creator in presidential history'. I also know he is smarter than many young people give him credit for, because of his books, which are excellent.
As for the twitter and other things- that is how he has gotten the republican nomination with less money than anyone else who ran on either side. He knows how to play the game, and has stated how to do this in his books. Anyone who has read even one should have seen his plays from the beginning, and not gotten caught. Instead, they went right with it, and gave him more free press than anyone else ever. Its actually genius, and I recommend skimming the author of Dilbert's blog as he is a non-partial who has some excellent write ups on it:
http://blog.dilbert.com/
(he also goes into the 'never apologizing bit)
>no political experience
you might want to duckduckgo that, he has been involved with politics for a long, long time.
>>28363353
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d32577Hom08
To a feminist, if you insult a woman, you've insulted all women.
>>28365351
>>28365338
Here, I'll do what you guys do.
I'll read Liberty News every day for a week, base my entire political stance on that, and start shitposting in EVERY /r9k/ thread I possibly can. I'll even feign autism so I can be tax exempt (since you obviously have no idea what it is like to be fiscally responsible and see where your money goes) and all I will do is shitpost from my computer.
>>28365388
you're satirical right? they're rich because they steal and horde money and have it in with cartels
they corrupt to the bone
The Republicans lost when Kasich didn't get the support he needed. He actually projects better than Hillary in the polls.
Trump may fair well with white supremecists, teenagers from /pol/, and other extremists, but more people in this country are not Republicans or Democrats. You can't be this big loud retard like Trump and get the Independent voters. Kasich could have gotten those for the Republicans.
I can't wait for the meltdown on here from all the alt right conservatards when Hillary inevitably defeats Trump in the general election.
She is favored to win in a landslide victory.
Maybe there was truth to what people said about Trump being a plant to ruin the Republicans chances.
>>28365441
Ad hominem is all you can come up with? Guess this discussion is over then.
>>28365428
>that makes me trust him more
Sociopathic sick fucks trust other sociopathic sick fucks, nothing new here.
>>28365368
no, Id do what I already do in America. Be /k/ and /out/.
>>28365396
>right with pro-trump youtube vid
did you even watch or click on it? Its about immigration and why its not viable for a country to let just anyone in- by the numbers. Its a math problem, you cant ''save'' everyone without a net loss to your own original inhabitants. The video is simply showing 2+2=4 for those too stupid to understand basics of the world.
>Trump is inherently /pol/
yes, I am sure all the people in America who have been voting for him all visit a anime cave painting website.
>all those CAPITAL LETTERS
are you 12? just stop.
>>28365415
TexMex, Hispanic American food not Mexican food.
>>28365388
>bastion of free market principles
Yep, definitely a mud filled shithole
>>28365478
I'M NOT LISTENING I'M NOT LISTENING
How come you /pol/ tards best comeback in any situation is to use Junior level HS English education?
I learned Fallacies in high school nigger. That is some weak ass shit lmao
>>28365472
>getting the milquetoast, ineffectual old white guy who polls better before the general starts to run against the "FIRST ____ PRESIDENT"
Literally Romney
>>28365388
based carlos.
only one able to debunk gates as the richest man alive in the last 2 decades. full disclosure, i work for one of his companies.
>>28362725
I dislike him, but he's still better than Shillary, anything is.
>>28364746
The funny thing is trump was a meme candidate who was hovering around the same percentage as the other republicans when he said the rapist thing about mexican immigrants, after that he shot up to like 30% of the vote and was far in the lead the rest of the time.
calling mexican immigrants rapists was the best political move he ever made, republican primary voters are like 50% edgy racists and thats all he needed in a fractured field.
now he can just walk up the stupid shit and say "hey i shoot from the hip its politics and im trump I say crazy shit" and he'll probably be fine because he has the charisma and the record for people to give him the benefit of the doubt.
>>28365478
Seriously do you walk around the college campus and interrupt conversation just spitting out random types of fallacies in group's stories?
Is that the only unit you passed? The "fallacy" unit?
>>28365446
Carlos Slim is a CEO on the Forbes list of billionaires.
He's the chair of Telmex, which is a telecommunications company.
So not only are you stereotyping Mexicans, you're also an uninformed racist who thinks that drug cartels are the only way Mexican citizens make money.
>>28365388
He became rich thanks to his friend, an ex-president selling him the entire telecommunications industry of Mexico when he privatized it. It's probably the largest monopoly in the world right now.
He does it for free media coverage because he knows the media can't resist reporting on it. You can even see his ex-wife's bikini shot under the newspapers.
>>28365486
It means he is clear in what he is presenting and wants. Its not a lie- even if you believe the means are wrong for some reason, his core wish it to go down in history as someone amazing. Ruining the country is the opposite of that, so of course Id trust him more than an old senile socialist or a husk of tortured evil that is Hillary.
>>28365441
>Liberty News
what? If your going to set up a straw man at least make it one that makes sense. You might as well just be posting 'racist' or 'bigot' for all the good it will do (you). Its not an argument, you just show you have no real response.
>>28365496
>mud filled shithole
You have to work with what you have once you get that pesky government off your back.
>>28365513
>>28365539
>getting upset that I called you out
By the way fallacies are a thing because they are BAD arguments. You shouldn't use a fallacy in an argument because it is ILLOGICAL. I can't believe I have to explain this to someone who "understands" what fallacies are.
>>28365488
>calling me 12
Yeah, man, I'm twelve, caught me. I call other kids "nigger" on Black Ops III.
>Did you even watch it?
I didn't have to, because you were going to give me a synopsis anyway lol and I wasn't going to agree with your bullshit views as it is. What were you trying to accomplish? Sway a stranger on /r9k/? Is that what you are doing on a Thursday night?
And yeah, so Trump isn't /pol/. Got me there. I'm sure he is a Socialist liberal, just like Bernie, faggot.
>>28365577
>love taxes?
>love government?
>love regulation?
>hate guns?
It's better in North Korea!
>>28365558
>>28365622
LOL BACK AT IT AGAIN WITH THE FALLACIES
>"St-Stacy you shouldn't be saying that, that is a str-"
>"Fuck off, anon."
>>28365328
>I'm a sociopath for putting America first and supporting border security
Nah, fuck off to Yurope if you think your bullshit works.
>>28365472
>She is favored to win in a landslide victory
Trump leads Clinton by 2 points among likely voters
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/trump_41_clinton_39
>>28365519
You can have the big loud sideshow who gets the edgy right wingers excited and lose the election. Or, you can have the level headed guy who can appeal to Independent voters, bring a swing state like Ohio, and win the election.
I guess Republicans are ok with losing, so long as they get their meme candidate to tell jokes on stage and parrot their racist opinions.
>>28365204
Illegal immigrants are still citizens of their home country, idiot.
People have citizenship in any country they were born in, in most countries this is irrevocable.
r9k help, my best friend is is Mexican and hates Trump, pic related.
>callase
If he knew I support the man I don't know how he would react. Heck most of my kikebook would probably unfriend me if I posted a single thing showing support for Trump.
Who here #inthecloset for the god emperor?
>>28365658
>Rasmussen
Needs to be taken with a grain of salt.
>>28365513
and your only response is
>lel /pol/
come on, at least try
>>28365537
>implying they arnt racists
look up who is in the border states prisons, then follow up by the Mexican govt sending the people they dont want to deal with over the border to our own prison. Like that tunnel digging drug lord they are sending to america- mexico, the country, is literally sending one of their biggest drug dealing rapist to us to take care of.
>>28365472
Kasich didnt even do well with the republicans, why people keep saying he ''polls better'' is beyond me.
As far as independents go, Republican registration is up by some 20%+ this primary season. More people registered for Republican from independent since forever. This includes myself. If you count the total number of voters in the primary, and compare it between parties, Republican voters are having record turn outs.
While it will still be difficult for Trump to win (since most blue states dont have or enforce voter ID laws and lots of illegals vote, otherwise places like CA would have gone red years ago) Hillary is not well liked. And if Trump can capitalize on Bernouts (already started with the lol tacos and min wage) he will crush her.
Either way the debates will be the best thing ever.
>>28365660
>Romney
>level headed
>Romney
>appeals to Independents
The fuck are you on, faggot?
>>28365686
Lol your only response was
>muh fallacy
It must be tough being the Pussy-Catcher 9000, huh anon?
>>28365674
They are literally better or as good as any other polling company.
>>28365645
I'd rather live in North Korea than any "free" mud country. Come to think of it, I'd probably rather live in North Korea than any genuinely libertarian country.
Libertarianism is an anglo kike ideology. As I NEET I choose better
>>28365168
Trump blames IMMIGRATION, not IMMIGRANTS for some, but not all, problems. And not even immigration itself, just illegal immigration.
>>28365544
And I thought neo liberalism run amok was bad in Colombia. Christ.
>>28365658
Rasmussen is very much biased towards Republican candidates. They always overestimate how they perform. They are the least accurate of the major pollsters.
>>28365720
Little late to the party man, haha.
>>28365623
Trumps more of a nationalistic librarian. I wouldnt call you 12 if you didnt try and get your POINT ACROSS BY THINKING ALL CAPS DOES ANYTHING LOLKEK.
>a synopsis anyway lol
>What were you trying to accomplish? Sway a stranger on /r9k/?
trying to have a discussion, which sometimes happens here, and a few earlier posters were capable of. thanks for helping me remember not to reply to shitposters like
>>28365651
(you)
>>28365660
Except Kasich only got as far as he did by being invisible. Kasich isn't level-headed, especially when it comes to foreign policy, but you wouldn't know that. Once he actually started to get interviews for his brief Cruz teamup, he was falling apart at the seams. I'm not saying it wouldn't be close, but he would ultimately lose, in part because turn out would be fucking abysmal for him.
>>28365719
Libertarianism or any kind of freedom ONLY works in white communities.
Animals have to be controlled because their natural compulsion is to destroy.
>>28365711
>Lol your only response was
>>muh fallacy
>ignores the other paragraphs
>>28365667
Ive converted all my LEGAL Hispanic friends who were bernouts to vote Trump. They all have MAGA hats now as well, feels good. If he isnt legal call ICE and get his ass deported.
>>28365666
nice try satan, but if you leave your home country with no intent to go back you're a fucking traitor.
>>28365645
Spotted the upset libertarian.
Sorry about Ron Paul being an unelectable lunatic and all.
>>28365749
>librarian
I assume you mean libertarian? If you do that makes no sense as libertarianisms core principles are wholly incompatible with nationalism of any flavour.
>>28362924
>when liberals tell you how to think
fuck off m8
>>28365749
I literally give no shit for what you have to say.
You're like the kid in class who raises his hand, makes his point, raises his hand, tries to disprove someone else's point, and repeats until the teacher says to give some other person a chance, and then you go your turn again and continue the class discussion until people are fed up with your shit but just want to see time go by.
I don't come to /r9k/ to have a discussion. You're (we're) all fucking autistic. People who come for discussion are too autistic to realize they are coming for arguments, not discussions. If I wanted a discussion, I'd go to my college class and meet some people who weren't complete polar fucking opposites of me, who would discuss rather than just wait for their turn to talk.
>>28365778
Load of shit, lol
>"Why would somebody do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies"?
>>28365799
Not to mention if Trump is a libertarian, he's a shitty and hypocritical one. He's used bankruptcy law four times to get off clean.
>>28365799
Different anon, but I've heard libertarians are pretty divided on both border control and abortion, with one camp hard one way, the other hard the opposite. Something about how to apply the non aggression principle to real world situations or some shit.
>>28365686
>Kasich didnt even do well with the republicans, why people keep saying he ''polls better'' is beyond me.
Republicans do not represent the rest of the country.
25% of the country is Republican
31% of the country is Democrat
44% of the country is Independent
Including Independents
41% of the country leans Republican
49% of the country leans Democrat
In head to head polls among general voters, Kasich beats Hillary. In head to head polls among general voters, either Hillary beats Trump by double digits.
These are very basic facts you can find within minutes of simple searching.
It's actually impressive how well Kasich would perform against Hillary when 8% of the country leans Democrat.
The Republican party is more extreme than ever before and that won't bode well in the general election when they have a clown on the stage that Independent voters won't take seriously.
>>28365790
Not a libertarian.
I just don't like such presumptuous arguments like what is presented in that comic.
>>28364915
libcucks BLOWN THE FUCK OUT!
this is true.
>>28365873
You can't rely on crossover votes to cover a supreme lack of enthusiasm within your base. Romney actually won Independents too. It didn't matter. And Bernfags would absolutely still vote for Shillary, and the Republicans would have no fresh faces to account for the sudden boon. You're looking at a 2D analysis of a 3D race.
>>28365799
sorry, autocorrect but yes. And I disagree, as libertarianism is about liberty and freedom from the government. Often includes lower taxes, states rights, etc when applied to American Politics. Even Ron Paul might work with Trump, according to his tweet. You take those principles, and apply them with an ''american peoples first'' mentality.
>>28365827
so you just came into this thread to angrily shitpost LOL NO U A RACIST BIGOT LOLOLOLOLOL good to know. Just realize you and your like are part of the reason /r9k/ turned to shit sometime in 2010 and has just continued to go downhill. /r9k/ was a slower ''old /b/'' where discussion was a-ok. They even made [s4s] for your sort of faggatory.
>>28365873
if you look at Kasich's policies, he's Hillary with a penis.
>>28365889
There's nothing presumptuous about it. I think you're just upset because you seem eager to make a false equivalency.
The absence of government pretense, regulatory or otherwise isn't equivalent to government oppression.
>>28365945
So he has two penises?
>>28365873
Just like Romney beat Obama right? These polls have proven, time and time again, to mean absolutely jack squat. Especially when you factor in mobilizing voters.
>>28365961
^should be presence, not pretense. Auto-correct.
>>28365937
>libertarianism is about liberty and freedom from the government
Libertarians are not about liberty or freedom. They don't like power being in the hands of the government. They want power to be in hands of the most wealthy people in the country.
Libertarians are among the most naive people in the world.
>>28365937
Lol see? You are STILL mad.
You are going to go to bed angry because a STRANGER ON AN ANIME BOARD DISAGREED with you!
And desu, it is not because it was a more discussionary board. It is because there were less people who would stand up and disagree to you fucking retards. There wass an overwhelmingly high amount of Far right Republicans and the people back then were just less ready to argue.
Oh, and don't fucking act like you've been frequenting /r9k/ you lying fuck. Nobody is here for that long a time.
>>28365858
restructuring=/=bankruptcy when will this shitty meme end.
son of a bitch 4chan is going to be flooded with this trump-clinton bullshit for the next 6 months
How many /pol/tards are going to kill themselves when Hillary wins?
>>28366016
>4chan is going to be loaded with shit
YOU DON'T FUCKING SAY MOTHERFUCKER. WOW. IT'S A DAY ENDING WITH Y.
>>28365937
>liberty and freedom from government
By delivering that power into the hands if those that have the most market power. Which in this case are corporations. That doesn't sound very free to me considering the top heavy non transparent nature of the world's corporate structure.
>>28365998
>Oh, and don't fucking act like you've been frequenting /r9k/ you lying fuck. Nobody is here for that long a time.
I wish this were true. Not mad, just bored desu sempai. Plus these kind of arguments help me later in the real world to have a very quick and good response to people who arnt just shitposting, but actually believe the shit on buzzfeed news or whatever it is now.
>>28365985
>Libertarianism (Latin: liber, "free") is a political philosophy that upholds liberty as its principal objective. Libertarians seek to maximize autonomy and freedom of choice, emphasizing political freedom, voluntary association, and the primacy of individual judgment.[1][2]
>Libertarians generally share a skepticism of authority; however, they diverge on the scope of their opposition to existing political and economic systems. Various schools of libertarian thought offer a range of views regarding the legitimate functions of state and private power, often calling to restrict or even to wholly dissolve coercive social institutions. Rather than embodying a singular, rigid systematic theory or ideology, libertarianism has been applied as an umbrella term to a wide range of sometimes discordant political ideas through modern history.
also see
>>28365861
its an umbrella term for 'fuck off govt''
>>28366042
I already have my popcorn ready when Hillary wins and the country doesn't actually improve after her first term.
>>28366051
not political bullshit, thats what /pol/ is for but now its going to leak their autistic election talk everywhere.
>>28366072
Lol don't act like my friend you fucking faggot. I bet Chad is railing your oneitis as you speak.
>>28366042
Not enough, if you ask me.
>>28366016
and if Trump wins, youll get 4 years of TRUMP MAGA all day forever, and if the wall gets built, 4chan will implode.
When Hillary wins, it will be 1 year of 'LOL' at the Trump posters and memes about them being low energy, losing to a woman, followed by 7 years of 'oh why god did we elect Hillary' followed by a few millions years of learning how to make fire from sticks after we go to war with Russia and she nukes the world on a PMS.
