> just lift bro
when will this meme fucking die?
if you have good genetics you will naturally have low fat and large bones and good muscle tone, so you have no reason to lift
if you have bad genetics and lift you will look like this guy
I love how lazy fags keep posting this thread
This is an actual legitimate way to escape neetdom but its just a le meme, right? xD
>im an amerifat
literally you
>>28333225
He just has to cut more brah
>>28333225
>not lifting to get toned
more like if you're an attractive sperg girls still won't like you
>it's crab bucket episode number 362 where anon tries to discourage anon from improving himself, keeping everyone on the same level of misery
>>28333225
>if you have good genetics you will naturally have low fat and large bones and good muscle tone
Just shut the fuck up, you imbecile.
>>28333225
So you're telling me that lifting gives you a photoshop physique?
>>28333266
M8 the only people who lift besides Australians are Americans
if lifting solves your problems why are there so many people whining on /fit/?
if reading and getting a hobby solves your problems why is there so much whining on /lit/ and other boards?
if dressing well solves your problems why are there so many people whining on /fa/?
none of that shit works it's just lies people tell each other to hope for anything better
it's important to be in shape, but lifting more than a certain amount is useless unless you have great genetics or want to roid and become a bodybuilder
>>28333260
>lifting is a way to escape NEETdom
Actually, getting a job or going to school is how you escape NEETdom, you stupid piece of shit. Do you even know what the term means? Hint: It doesn't just mean "loser that sits in his room a lot".
>>28333266
Honestly, it's more pathetic to see someone with a garbage body and garbage genetics try to "fix" things by working out. It just doesn't do anything; you might feel a bit better, but you still look bad, and your place in society is primarily determined by HOW YOU LOOK.
There is VERY little way around this. You can be born into wealth or a literal genius, but for the average loser? If you're ugly it's over, and it was never your fault. You were just born a victim of bad parents.
>>28333225
Are you implying that man does not have low fat, large bones (whatever that means) and good muscle tone?
I'll keep it as short as possible because I want to go to bed:
1. Lifting will make you look better 100% of the time
2. Lifting might give you some confidence but won't solve your depression or social retardness.
>>28333381
Because /fa/ggots dosen't dress good, people on /fit/ dosen't actually lift and /lit/ is full of plebs, the same way that this board is made for special snowflakes but is the most normalfag filled
>>28333225
Are you retarded? Genes are a factor, but lifting and doing cardio will not only make you look better (that means less shitty in the worst cases), but it confers health and cognitive benefits too.
Stop being a bitch.
>>28333678
This is incredibly accurate, all boards are full of shit
>>28333225
Yeah better to find a niche: Be funny, creative, wealthy, a bartender, etc. were you can pick the low hanging fruit that is women who cannot handle being single for any length of time
>>28333929
im in ur boards
givin u cancer
>>28333863
>make you look better
literally no.
if you dont have the underlying face features/bone structure, lifting is 100% a meme.
>>28334063
Yeah, there are no face lifts, moron.
All of those fuckers look better when compared to skinnyfat versions of themselves.
Also if your bone structure is so fucked up, then go just for otter mode with overdeveloped shoulders to hide the massive faggy waist.
You have to be smart when it comes to these things, NOT JUST LIFT SHIT AND EAT BIG.
>>28333678
>>28333929
Compare 4chan board populations to the general population though. People on 4chan are at least 10 times more cultured and aware of the world we live in compared to the general population. I mean christ, only 13% of the population even reads a single book after high school.
>It's a 'I've never tried to improve myself and use other people's bad experiences to not so' episode
Also, that fag has ridiculously low body fat which looks disgusting no matter what and most people don't have a body shape like that.
>>28333225
he looks fine except his shorts are way too low.
i dont think that this development is caused by genetics but i could be wrong
So the only reason you'd ever lift or workout is to look good for other people, namely women?
Fucking cuckold faggot.
>>28334108
I just pity them.
They really don't look that much better. I just feel pity and disgust; they actually believe they've done something that will garner them attention and respect from their peers, but all they've done is develop some vain hypertrophy that'll turn into nothing a year after they decide to stop pumping.
>>28333225
Wait what's his problem?
>>28334063
The ugliest guy there is a chad IRL
>>28333225
>>28334199
>>28334063
The problem for all of them is either narrow shoulders or baby face. Neither are really fixable. Best to an hero.
>>28334186
Muscle goes away much slower than that. Performance goes to hell rather quickly though.
If they are on roids (some probably are), then at least they have a lifetime long advantage for building muscles due to increased androgen receptors and increased muscle nuclei.
They just need to tone it down, lift strategically to hide their flaws and facial surgery (some of them, since they could also use the andorgenic effects of stuff like long term use of trenbolone).
>>28333225
He has a very wide waist, I bet you most certainly do not you weakling excuse making faggot.
You wouldn't be able to do what that guy did either even if he does have a fucked waist.
>literally dont eat
>be chad
>tfw it will never be this easy for you
this nigger had chad hidden under all that lard
>>28334177
>le I do it for me not other people meme
>>28333225
What the fuck are you betas on about.
All this guy needs is to grow a beard and get some more lats and he'll be a pussy magnet
Also, for those who have never shurgged in your life, its the most unflattering lift out there, also hides what little traps this guy has,
>>28334281
Narrow shoulder is fixable by working them particulary hard when compared to the rest of their bodies, but they would have to settle for otter mode so the difference actually hides the defect.
Baby face can be fixed with androgenic hormones and/or facial surgery.
>>28334297
I'm ugly but in great shape, nothing annoys me more than seeing guys who have great facial features underneath a mount of fat, these faggots have it made and are wasting it
>>28334311
>All this guy needs is to grow a beard
Normies are literal sociopaths
>>28334063
guy in the top right will probably look okay in 10 or 20 years when his face ages and gets some wear
should probably also grow facial hair
>>28334308
weakling. Nothing more.
>>28333225
>those short shoulders
>those womanly hips
L O W
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>>28334386
He's low test but at least he is trying, can't blame him for that
>>28334370
Humans are supposed to have empathy, do some research so you can at least pretend you have it
>>28334290
>(some probably are)
Only one of them isnt. Way to show your ignorance on the subject.
>>28334345
ye it's like theyre sitting on a winning lotto ticket and not cashing it in
>>28333315
how are muscles improving yourself? they're completely useless outside of the gym. the only reason to get them is if you have a fetish for them and you like to jerk off to your reflection in the mirror
that time could be much better spent learning an instrument or language. or even just reading a book. this isn't 8000 BC anymore, muscles are in no way helping you
>>28334485
what? is he dead or something?
>>28334496
Some can mean most, but did not want to be a huge faggot ratting people on their usage.
Also I have seen some ridiculous natty fuckers, but they also have great genes that would not lead to those...things.
>>28334485
Not even that guy, but what the fuck are you talking about?
Well they make you more attractive, they project a more imposing presence also meaning people will fear and respect you more. Also being strong is always more beneficial than being a weakfag.
>>28333225
The waist is wide, but it seems he skipped on working out his delts which is the only problem
>>28334579
>>28334540
If he could grow facial hair he fucking would've by now
>>28334530
the best is waiting until its too late to do this kind of transformation.
results in a decently good looking complete sperg with no ability to interact with women.
>>28334660
jesus christ are you really that insecure?? you're projecting can be seen from the fucking moon
>>28334726
Why the fuck wouldn't I be
Being properly muscular and toned is the female equivalent of having wonderful shapely big breasts and curves. As long as you are not disgustingly muscular, women do look at that stuff even though they will never admit it, it's a primal thing. Even though muscles this day and age isn't that useful, it still helps you feel powerful. I don't take roids or even supplements, I am only starting, but I've notice already that working out gives me a great appetite, better sleep, more presence, some vanity, more healthy, better orgasms, and more assertiveness.
>>28334345
Literally me.
I exercise and lift though so I'm aiming for it.
>tfw alcohol slows my progress
I hate depression desu
>>28333282
>toned
Just end your fucking life you piece of shit
>>28333225
if large bones you just gonna have large muscles, but even with small bones you gonna have nice muscle that look in good perspective with you body.
>>28333225
>no reason to lift
t. fedora fatass virgin
>>28334063
they still look better than if they were fatasses
>>28333503
You know this is correct because it didn't get any replies.
>>28333260
>This is an actual legitimate way to escape neetdom
No it isn't you goddamn retard. You can lift while you're unemployed.
Getting a fucking job or going to school is how you escape neetdom.
>>28333282
If you lift for any reason besides your job (ex: military) or to impress women, you are an autist. End of story.
>>28336783
but what if you just like it? i genuinely enjoy lifting, i enjoy going to the gym
>>28333225
lifting is officially a normie meme now. Any nerd chink or pooloo whos desperate for a gf will go to the gym and fall for this meme. maybe 10 years ago when going to the gym wasn't so common you could impress some girl with how strong you are. lifting is a maymay now.
its all about FACIAL AESTHETICS. don't fall for the gym meme, just get down to low enough bodyfat to have abs and chill there, your body will look good, and your face will be lean.
>>28334177
Direct your attention to >>28336783
>>28336801
Then you're an autist. Doing repetitive things over and over is a sign of autism. Its a simple task that you can do absentmindedly ad infinitum. Also anti-social.
>>28336853
>just get down to low enough bodyfat to have abs and chill there, your body will look good
lmao at your life
People often misinterpret the way lifting will fix your problem with women.
Your brain will actually make you care less about finding a partner when you lift since it increases your chances of survival. Both of those are part of our genetical programming and will satisfy it's needs.
>>28334295
>I bet you most certainly do not you weakling excuse making faggot
But I do
>>28334890
this is me
i consume too much alcohol every other day
>>28334063
Top right is actually really fucking cute.
t. homo
http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/depression/in-depth/depression-and-exercise/art-20046495
What's the worst that can happen?
>>28334530
He doesn't look that good to be honest
His body is overdeveloped and it makes his already small head look smaller.
If you have a small head you shouldn't make the rest of your body so huge, if you're looking to be aesthetic.
You should go ottermode.
Also, a well-groomed beard can go a long way to making your head look more proportional.
>>28338433
this
big guy mode is better for guys who have big heads and thick necks. they look weird untrained, but when they develop, their bodies sort of "grow into" their heads and they look well proportioned and impressive
>>28334536
You've never had an issue moving something heavy before? Lifting is more pragmatic than eating.
>>28336903
If he gets some abs he's good to go
>>28338495
he's already at like 10-12% bodyfat lmao
most skinny weak guys with abs look like shit and you know it
>>28334536
>HOW IS BEING AT A HEALTHY WEIGHT IMPROVING YOURSELF REEE
>he lifts to impress girls
>he lifts to impress friends
>he lifts to inflate his ego
>he doesn't lift simply to become stronger and be the best he can be
I'm sure that guy still looks 100X better than he would if he didn't lift. Besides the main reason to lift is that it makes you feel good.
Try this. Lie face down on the carpet, think about all the shit you've failed to do with your life, think about all the missed opportunities you've fucked up, all the misery you've brought upon yourself, then start doing pushups. Do as many as you can. Repeat.
Lifting aint going to solve all your problems. Nothing will do that (except heroin and killings yourself) but it relieves stress, improves your posture and makes it easier to move heavy stuff. There is literally no reason not to do it.
>>28333225
troll or severely misinformed.
Your first argument is simply not true.
Your 2nd argument is true for less than 1% of the population. And even if you happened to be in that tiny minority, it would very hard work to get to that amount of muscle and such low bf%...so it wouldn't even affect you anyway.
>>28338533
Pretty much this.
The reason people lift is to feel good about themselves, bottom line. You see yourself improve, lift more each time, run a bit harder each time, it feels fucking good man. Fuck everyone else.
Not to mention, people respect the fuck out of you for lifting/running and sticking with it, no matter how you look. They see a strong willed man with a strong, determined work ethic, and they want to be around you.
No one said you have to look like Schwarzenegger. It's all psychological.
Plus, it's a great way to meet new people who are positive and shit.
>>28334536
Less fat = higher testosterone production and less estrogen production, health for a man
a higher volume of muscle mass has more potential for strength gains
more muscle can also = less fat gains as you need more calories to put yourself into a caloric surplus
>so many fags have fallen for the "muh genetics" meme
Keep telling yourselves that faggots. That way you don't improve yourselves and this gives me the opportunity to lift and become Chad while not having you as competition. More pussy for me
>if you have bad genetics and lift you will look like this guy
but i would fuck that guy. i would fuck him all night long.
>tfw no meh faced, nice-looking body bf
>>28338595
>>28334536
it makes you fitter and healthier in a variety of different ways, helping cognitive function and overall hapiness
helps confidence and self esteem and also builds character as you actually have to get up off your fucking fat ass and do something which hurts, consistently for a long period of time
>>28338603
genetics play a huge fucking role when itcomes to body aesthetics
however, as long as you don't have deformities, wide hips or narrow shoulders lifting will definitely improve your life
>>28333225
Does butterface apply to men as well?
>>28338675
Genetics only dictate your upper strength limit. They only affect how heavy you can lift and how big you can get. Eveything else is dictated by what exercise you do. Don't believe the meme, you''l get pussy if you lift
>>28333225
Unfortunately my genetics also stop me from building any significant muscle mass.
At best I can be skinny fat that looks defined in the right lighting
>>28338675
>>28338733
You fags know that you can broaden your shoulders (marginally, but still), etc and put your body in proportion by lifting, right?
>>28333260
The "just lift" advice works for most people, it's best to just assume that the ones who are calling it a meme are the ones that lifting wont help.
>>28338763
That's what I said you illiterate cumfaggot
>>28333315
stop giving it away.
>>28338750
Your genetics defy the law of physics?
You're just not eating enough, regardless of what you "believe".
>>28338804
Fair enough. But that other faggot is making excuses for not lifting.
And no one likes a whiny bitch making untrue excuses
>>28338831
Let them whine and bitch. Meanwhile, we lift and get pussy like Zyzz told us to.
>>28338733
genetics play a part in the structure of your bones, the way the muscle holds onto the bones (insertions), and also the length of the muscle belly
these three things are the most important part about body aesthetics
if you have short muscle bellies, good insertions and broad shoulders you will look aesthetic
if you have long muscle bellies, bad insertions and narrow shoulders you will look like shit, even if you do make significant muscle gains
look at OP's picture, look how fucking narrow his shoulders are. look at how weird his pecs look. he has a significant amount of muscle mass and looks like shit
>>28338822
I sure have one powerful imagination!
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19557868
>>28338763
i have normal shoulders im speaking for other people like OPs pic
literally look at OPs pic, i imagine hes done everything in his power to widen his shoulders
thats genetics
>>28338875
If anything else I think OP's pic is photoshopped. Look at the skin tone of his neck and face compared to the rest of his body. Someone pasted the head of a skinny guy in the body of a strong guy and dragged his sides apart to make it look like he has wide hips.
>>28338875
Are you some sort of fucking idiot? Why are you making excuses?
I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that the guy in OPs pic gets shit tons of pussy and lives a great life.
But someone on /r9k/ said he looks funny, so he must be an outcast.
Yeah, naw, no one wants to hear your excuses, you sound insecure and jealous as fuck.
You see the man in OP's picture, and instead of acting like a proper man and taking from him, setting a goal to learn to be like him, look like him, etc - you try to bring him down to your level to justify your shittiness, which is what 12 year old girls do.
Fucking christ.
lifting will help in general, it's that simple
everyone of us starts with a certain potential and using it to the max, even though it might only result in mediocre outcomes compared to individuals with a much higher basal potential, will not hurt
it seems to me that this is a typical case of truth in the middle, genetics are important and set some limits but you can more or less move between those limits depending on your personal choices and attitude
>>28338979
im not making excuses for myself, i have normal width shoulders and normal width hips for my height, im not complaining or insecure in anyway
i am helping you comprehend a harsh reality for some people which you cannot grasp
most normal young men will do well at the gym though
also there isnt any proof this guy gets "shit tons of pussy" whats being argued is that these guys trained hard, and looked like shit because of their genetics and this can also be true for other people on r9k im sure
>>28339000
yes senpai. Genetics dictate how strong you can get and how big. However, if you're lifting for aesthetics you're pretty much guaranteed a bod that can impress the ladies if you lift. The guy in OP's pic is either photoshopped or else has a hormonal imbalance that can be fixed with drugs.
Funny. When I typed senpai, it came out as senpai
Did someone summon the /fit/ legend?
>>28339048
just ignore him dude
99% of all iron-pilled bros just parrot the same shit inane advice over and over
>>28339114
Nigga I summoned Zyzz, not you faggot
>>28339141
nah i can help this guy actually learn something if he just opens his mind for a fraction of a second
>>28333333
Ice deposits daily.
>>28339149
Zyzz wasn't smart enough to realize combining steroids, cocaine, and a history of heart problems together may be a bad idea
>>28333225
>tfw same body shape as him
I'm beginning to think I was put on this Earth as a test to see how long I can last without killing myself
>>28333225
That's not how genetics work anon, you can't come out of the womb ripped af if you spend all day eating chicken tendies you WILL get fat, just look at Stephen seagull.
>>28339370
I know he wasn't the best role model and made some bad decisions but he was an inspiration. It was thanx to him that I got interested in lifting and I'm gonna start right after I finish finals
>>28339615
ANYBODY SEEN RICHIE?!?
>>28334063
The point is that it always makes you look better than before. Better be a 4/10 then a 2/10, which is a worst case scenario anyways as the average person will at least be a bit above average after lifting.
>>28339615
He might be fat but he can still kick your ass
>>28339370
>Shit talking Zyzz
Oh boy here we go.
>>28339713
Only if he can catch me, I'm a pretty fast runnr ma-
*Teleports behind you*
tey boy.
>>28339370
AFAIK he wasnt aware of his heart problems, it was a birth defect which had somehow been dormant for the vast majority of his life.
>>28333225
Idk about you guys but that is a handsome man and if he was rich enough I'd offer my boipucci
I lift because it helps myself mentally. The physical act of exhausting myself and pushing physical limits sets aside depression and makes me feel like I've accomplished something.
I don't care how other people see me, I even do most of my workout stuff at home too.
>>28339790
Still I read about his life, and found out he lead an extremely unhealthy lifestyle, he smoked a pack of cigs a day, took a bunch of steroids and some of his behavior came off as really really douchebaggy. I think that last part was part of his persona but I still think he took it too far sometimes.
>>28339790
He would have known his family's history
>>28339952
True. You cant really blame him though, he lived the ultimate robot lifestyle for the majority of his life and once he got a taste of the Chad lifestyle he was consumed by it. Just like how when really poor people get really rich they tend to get consumed by the money and see nothing but hedonism and making more money.
>>28339990
He was the only one is his family with it as far as im aware.
>>28333225
>if you have bad genetics and lift you will look like this guy
When will you learn
if you've been following the "gymcels" shit
there's a pic of multiple guys like in OP's pic
>>28334063
the it has to keep getting re-edited because we find out that more and more of these "ugly" guys are actually raking in the pussy
I'd kill to look like pic related, he gets laid
>if you dont have the underlying face features/bone structure, lifting is 100% a meme.
except we keep on finding out that these guys are getting laid repeatedly.
>>28340059
Still, he gave hope to robots like us that one day, with hard work, we can become Chads"We're all gonna make it, brahs."
I don't go to the gym because I'm terrified of people, also I don't have money
also getting really sick of "just lift bro XD you'll feel bad xdddd"
seriously fuck off, anyone under 6ft lifting is just overcompensating and anyone over 6ft is going to take 2 years to see any gains, literally the biggest waste of fucking time ever
>>28333225
>muscle tone
you clearly don't know what you're talking about
>>28340377
>improving your physical and mental health is a waste of time
This board.
>>28340377
>literally the biggest waste of fucking time ever
>posted on r9k
well it appears you don't have any issue with wasting time so...
>>28340418
you stay healthy by eating healthy and getting exercise, not lifting heavy objects and overeating like some caveman, just admit that you want to look big
>>28340478
Like it or not, looking big rakes in the pussy
>>28333225
ITT: Lazy neets making bullshit excuses not to lift
>>28340207
This. Even in that pic the guy with the stupid haircut and terrible glasses with the tattoo is getting laid, there's pics floating around of him with his girlfriend.
And what defines good genetics? Do people really think low bodyfat is genetics? Because it's not, it's diet, your genetics have fuckall to do with it. Large bones don't necessarily look good, it's all about proportions.
Stop pretending that those good looking dudes were just born that way, they work far harder than you ever have to maintain that. No-one's born with big muscles, no-ones born with a guarantee they'll be a healthy wait, or will take care of their skin, hair, teeth, all sorts of shit.
>>28340377
>if it takes too long it's a waste of time!
Also, the only people that ever get mocked for being huge are guys that are like 5'3 and are obviously compensating, they're overly aggressive and defensive alongside the massive muscles, and they'd be mocked for compensating even if they were skinny as fuck. 6' is in like the top 15% of the population, do you really think that for 85% of people, lifting wouldn't make them look better?
>>28336861
Don't go full retard anon. Lifting for self improvement=/=autism
>>28340478
Lifting is great exercise, we both know you don't do any exercise so cut that shit out right now
>>28340523
Robots think that good genetics make Chads grow muscles automatically. That's straight out of a fairy tale. You have to work to get big muscles
>>28334063
>hurr lifting doesn't make me a 10/10 therefore I shouldn't even bother
>>28340600
Robots seem to think that Chad's are literally just born well formed attractive adults, and not that they become that way through working pretty damn hard. But that being said, nearly every photo of Chad posted is literally a model in the middle of a photoshoot, with the argument that they don't even have to try, so it's probably not even worth mentioning that their beliefs that way are irrational.
>>28340600
Then again, robots have a loose grasp on reality so it kind of explains why they would believe the "muh genetics" meme
They don't want to help you. They are just avoiding having to admit you are an ugly.
>>28340684
Most robots' problems stem from shit social skills and/or defective personalities (low self-worth, narcissism, etc.) So really getting buff wouldn't help them much anyway.
>>28333225
when people tell you to "just lift", they're not telling you that lifting will solve your problem. They're telling you to "just lift". Stop with whatever bullshit you're having a 'tism about and just lift. It's a distraction, one that soon enough will help you to focus on the now, instead of what was or what could have been
forget about women for a bit, just lift
forget about "normies", just lift
forget about being pretty, women can worry about that. just lift
>>28333331
>aussies and americans are the #1 lifters
>aussies and americans lose all the major weightlifting competitions every year
hmmmm
>>28340711
Legit narcissism would be a good thing for robots though.
>>28340705
The fuck?! That's an average dick at worst
Genetics is a meme. Shoulders, hips, and height are set, insertions can be worked around to some extent, and face can be easily changed to whatever you want. Tone refers to tonicity, something that is OK in everyone except severe neuro disorders such as tetraplegia. The fact is everyone looks better with muscle and low fat. Genetics don't mean shit hormonally. Blast and cruise is your 20s,then high trt for life to maintain after. The is no excuse not too. Any hearth risks are offset by the health bonus in roiding.
>>28340828
>At worst
>7~ inch dick
Cocksize baiters are the lowest form of posters
>>28340846
Roids will fuck you over in the long run. See Zyzz and that guy with bitchtits in Fight Club
>>28334063
>if you can't look like a male model, then you might as well become 300 pounds and wear a mumu
>having a good body is pointless
you are the worst kind of person
for the record I think the dry, heavily cut, shaven and oiled look is terrible. A bit of leanness looks good from time to time, but it's unhealthy to get too dry. shaving is stupid, men are supposed to have body hair. oiling yourself is weird.
>>28340805
I mean, it didn't work well for Elliot, and he was a textbook narcissist.
Robots have a weird combination between narcissism and inferiority though, there's a huge swing between the "I deserve better, life is unfair to me, I'm so much better than those goddamn normies" and the "Damn that Chad who's so perfect and better than me and I can't ever hope to compare so why bother?". It's the same mentality as a narcissist, but reversed. They still place too much importance on themselves, but instead of it being about how others can serve them, and be useful and worthwhile because they're obviously so much lesser than them, it's about how they can hope to compare and live up to the overarching society that they feel both victimised by, and obliged to be a part of.
They see themselves as objects that need to reach a certain level of quality to be accepted and used rather than fully formed human beings, and they view others the same way, except as higher quality objects. Women in particular are simplified to being exclusively in search of a large penis and a good jawline, the same as men are simplified to just being those few things.
Lifting won't help them until they realise the fault in this way of thinking, and actively try to fix it with the help of a professional (even a GP can help).
>>28336853
the pooloos go to the gym but they don't actually lift properly. there's one that has been going to my gym for 5 years and he's still rail thin doing a 125lb bench. tons of people go to the gym for a while and make no progress
being weak as a man is useless. if everyone else actually is going to gym like you say then you should become stronger than them
>>28340903
You're fucking retarded if you believe that. Zyzz died from coke, sauna, and forgetting the cruise part. Get regular blood work and follow basic common sense and you will be better off than if you didn't roid. I don't know what happened to bitch tits guy but if you're referring to gyno then just don't get gyno. If you can pin yourself you should be able to draw blood q 6 weeks and take a pill q 3 or 4 days. Steroids don't cause gyno. Estrogen and progesterone do. Don't take girl hormones and don't let your man hormones convert to girl hormones.
>>28336861
Why does everything have to be so black and white with you people when it comes to getting laid, if this guy didn't lift at all he would have sex with 3 or 4 out of 10 women but now he can probably fuck 6 or maybe 7/10 women. Plus his narrow shoulders aren't really a death sentence, if he trained his side delts as much as it looks like he trained his chest he would look less weird
>>28340903
you only get bitch tits like that if you don't do post cycle drugs after you get off roids, and zyzz died because his heart exploded from going in a sauna while on DNP
Steroids will give you health problems later on in life but everyone looks like shit when they get old and everyone has health problems eventually
>>28340956
It's called a superiority-inferiority complex
>>28340920
There's thin cool thing called opinions. I like the lean, hairless, and oiled look. It shows off the muscles. You don't have to oil up every day. That's only for photo ops and competitions. If you prefer the bear or power lifter look you aren't alone. Physical culture is very broad and has a little bit of something for everyone. The key points are roid and lift. The rest is up to you.
>>28333282
nice meme brother!
>>28341046
>>28341002
>>28340990
Guyz, roids are bad for you in the long run. There's literally no reason not to gain muscle mass without them. It's also /fraud/. Period.
It helped me lose about 50 pounds and gain some confidence and self discipline so thats why I subscribed to that meme
that guy still looks way fucking better than he would if he were fat and out of shape. Thats the point of lifting, it makes you look better. Yes people with better genetics will always win out.
>>28341017
It's not even as simple as that I don't think, most superiority or inferiority complexes share features of each other, they're both fueled by insecurity. It's much closer to an inverted form of narcissism, they're not fully narcissistic and feeling superior, but they drift back into feeling inferior pretty often, and still keep the same "people are purely defined by this list of features I consider to be positive or not".
>>28333225
The fat part is bullshit. Everyone starts to pack on weight after puberty calms down if you drive everywhere and if you live otherwise sedentary lifestyle where you sit at work/school and come home to sit in front of a computer or on a sofa for the rest of the day. Or just sit around the house for the whole fucking day as a neet.
Every skinny person I have known have had way more active life than I. They might not do sports or gym regularly but they keep moving for the whole day, walk to friends/stores on a daily basis after their work and school or commute on their legs or on a bike.
What you eat only matters if you gulp down shit like a ham planet, daily background activity keeps your metabolism going and keeps ppl skinny.
>>28333225
>just lift bro
>Not good advice
Breh..
>The completely normal 25 year old girl at work?
>The shy, cute asian girl in the library?
>The glasses wearing girl next door?
>The loud, fun loving latina chick?
>The bisexual tumblr girl with dyed hair who talks about privilege all the time?
>The fat hambeast who posts her pics on /soc/ for validation?
>The femanon who you have on skype and you really like but pretend not to so you don't seem desperate?
>The ginger haired musician?
>The slutty girl you knew in high school but was always kinda nice to you and seemed to have a sweeter side?
>The asian girl who's westernized but is also somewhat traditional?
>The jewish girl who is kinda quirky and clumsy?
>The pretty girl with the soft voice you have on steam and sometimes talk to?
>The redhead who was in your guild a few years back?
>The neighbour who sometimes smiles at you?
>The autistic chubby girl, who can barely speak and makes strange noises?
>The girl you once saw in town who had down's syndrome?
>The smart black girl with glasses?
>The dumb black girl who is pretty funny?
>The hot, plump blonde girl with glasses with that infectious smile?
>The really skinny, quiet girl who used to cut and has an eating disorder?
>The arab chick you spoke to on omegle one time for hours and she seemed to be really into you?
>That girl with really strict muslim parents who always wears a veil and you are sure she is a virgin?
>The girl from south africa with that great accent and attitude?
>The somewhat reserved, somewhat extroverted white girl who wears beanies and likes rap?
>The family friend you've nearly your whole life who you like but you don't see her in that way?
>The muslim girl who is married and is shy and you've never heard her speak?
>The homeless girl who drinks alcohol under the bridge and asks for some change?
>Your fat friend's older sister you used to crush on?
>Your ONEITIS?
>ALL OF THEM WANT CHAD!
Get rekt beta fuccbois. /fit/ or die.
>>28341111
Roids are more good than bad for you. Everything has a cost, consider the net gain though. There is no reason to be natty. I doubt any of us are olympic athletes so it's not fraudulent either. Women can take estrogen for birth control. Testosterone works as birth control for men yet it's illegal. That's bullshit. What happened to my body my choice? If you don't juice you're just wasting your time. Look for excuses all you want, but an least use legitimate ones. Health concerns are not a legitimate reason to avoid gear.
>>28341111
Holy fuck didn't even realize I got quads. CHECK EM FAGS!!!
>>28341183
Lies, metabolism keeps going until you die. Activity has minimal impact on it, as does diet. Iodine deficiency is the only exception I can think of.
t.hungry skeleton who sat on his ass all the time
>>28341254
Come back to me when you're bald, sterile, have shriveled balls, bitchtits and other nasty shit
>>28341242
see
>>28334063
Lifting does not make you a Chad unless you already had Chad-tier genetics to begin with.
>>28341326
Keep telling yourself that. Cuts down the competition for me quite nicely
>>28341164
This exactly
robot pls go
>>28341307
>activity and diet have no impact on your weight
Wow anon, you proved the entire medical community wrong with your one piece of anecdotal evidence! Those totally aren't the most significant factors, even in patients with diseases that effect how they process food.
You eat too little for your weight and activity level, you lose weight, or don't gain it. You eat too much for your weight and activity level, you gain weight.
>>28341324
I'd rather not have any of those. That's the beauty of drugs. There's something that will prevent every single one of those things. Enjoy being a cuck I guess. At least you be able to lay on your death bed and say you never tried. I can't say that's the best to have no regrets, but you can't fail if you never try, so you got me there.
Pic related. Sure husband bald, but that's genetics. Roids wont make you bald, only accelerate the process. He looks better than most guys 50(fifty) years younger than him.
>>28341592
You misquoted, asshole. I said metabolism, not weight. Those are different things. What a shocker right? Two completely different things have different words meaning different things that are not the same.
>>28341780
Care to define metabolism then? Instead of just being overly aggressive because you look like a moron talking about minimal shit that obviously changed based on heaps of factors throughout your life?
>>28341902
>the sum of the physical and chemical processes by which living organized substance is built up and maintained...
Its hardly minimal, it's what's kept me alive my whole life, and it hasn't changed much at all. Energy goes in, shit does shit, energy goes out, life happens. You can break it down further but no need to go over your head. I have my bmr, I have my TDEE, net energy excess means anabolism, deficit means catabolism. Any more questions? You could probably just look on Wikipedia, WebMD, or a medical dictionary faster than I can reply, so I'm asking that question to be overly aggressive.
>>28342139
True, that's the definition of what our metabolism does, but it's not contextually appropriate to diet.
Yes, your metabolism keeps working throughout your whole life, no-ones denying that. But the effect it has on weight isn't huge, and is at most a couple hundred calories, which translates to maybe a snack meal a day.
You're being a condescending cunt and just completely avoiding the actual point of what I'm saying. Fuck, you've not even said anything in particular except for just going "im skinny and metabolism exists". Congratulations, it doesn't mean it's relevant.
Sure, the guy you replied to was retarded, but you being skinny is entirely because you don't eat enough, not because of your metabolism that apparently defies the laws of thermodynamics.
What's your point here anon? Please, help me understand what it is that I'm apparently misunderstanding? Are you angry that he misused the term metabolism to not literally mean the function of your metabolism? Are you just angry? What's going on here?
>>28333389
The tragedy here is that you probably believe what you posted. Just kill yourself, failson
I started working out to look good. I ended up just being more confident about my body.
I mean i'm not sure if I started dating more girls because of the confidence or because of my better looking body but i'm sure it's some mixture of both.
>>28342943
I think you're confused. I never implied my body defies the laws of thermodynamics. I said I eat at maintenance and keep a low weight. That means roughly energy in = energy out. My bmr is way more than a couple hundred calories. I don't really pay much attention but I figure I get around 1800kcal a day. That seems right for a 6'2 135lb male with low activity level. It's not that difficult really. Maybe I'm confused too. What is the point?
He said activity keeps your metabolism going. I'm of the opinion that food is what keeps it going, activity is something else.
>>28333389
>but for the average loser? If you're ugly it's over
All those ugly faced fit guys posted throughout this thread? They get laid, you along with this board laugh at them but nobody else is.
You have an obsession with shifting the blame to any other entity or variable, you're here because you're lazy, have a crazy entitlement complex and
> it's more pathetic to see someone with a garbage body and garbage genetics try to "fix" things
you shoot down anyone who tries to improve themselves in life.
>it was never your fault. You were just born a victim of bad parents.
holy shit you can rationalize your way out of any problem can't you?
No matter how much your fault it is, you manage to convince yourself that there is no way out and trying is "pathetic".
I always wondered how some people could shit in a bag, piss in a jar and think it's okay.
>>28343277
It just comes off as try hard. You can't fix a busted face and roiding up like pic related is just screaming insecurity and compensating. Why bother? It's one thing to feel empowered and take some control, but at some point you have to either face the fact you're actively engaging in delusion or escapism. It's a lot more fun to escape in brightly colored cartoons with cute girls doing cute things that escaping in my body where I just constantly notice flaws to fix to distract me from the actual flaws that cant be changed.
>>28343240
I didn't mean to say that your bmr was a couple hundred calories, I meant to say that the difference between a fast and slow one is max a couple hundred. You're eating a maintenance for an incredibly low weight for your height, by the way.
I thought the point was that you were claiming that metabolism is more important than activity or diet, but now I'm thinking we're both confused honestly. Like, yeah, your metabolism exists no matter what you do as long as you're alive, it can slow down for a lot of reasons, but I think in the context he said it he meant more metabolism meaning how much food you can afford to eat for your weight, which would be totally defined by your activity level.
>>28343518
I think the people of California would disagree with you about Arnie being insecure and compensating, seeing as he was popular enough to get elected, and came from essentially nothing, creating his fortune and becoming a highly wealthy respected individual.
>It's one thing to feel empowered and take some control, but at some point you have to either face the fact you're actively engaging in delusion or escapism.
Do all the people that succeed in life despite not being male models not suggest to you that maybe looks aren't the entirety of where you sit in society, and that the opinions of teenage girls aren't the be all end all of life and success?
You're projecting your own insecurities onto society as a whole at this point, and it's ridiculous.
