ITT: We post our real names and rate other names.
I'mKyle.
>>28246110
fuck you kyle
dB^)
My name is Ben
I'm Caesar.
Edgar
>>28246110
>>28246136
>>28246137
Hi boys how are you doing tonight :)
I amRajesh
Giancarlo
Kaede.
Clark.
jens wagner aagaard
>>28246110
My name isTyler
every other person I've met with my name is a fuccboi
>>28246285
i like this one
>>28246163
what were your parents thinking (kinda like it tho)
generic white tier
>>28246137
>>28246110
>>28246190
>>28246340
>>28246340
One of my best friends is named Tyler and he's a robot.
You're good homey.
>>28246168
Never met an Edgar in my life but it always makes me think of the butler in Aristocats.
My name's Dominic.
>>28246110
6/10
>>28246137
7/10
>>28246163
9/10
>>28246168
6/10
>>28246170
2/10
>>28246190
4/10
>>28246246
6/10
>>28246252
5/10
>>28246285
1/10 not a name
>>28246305
5/10
>>28246340
4/10
And I'mClara, named after a dead grandparent.
David D Davidson reporting in
>>28246110
Don't associate my name with a shit tier show.
>>28246359
>generic white being bad
You need to go back
My name is Sophie.
>>28246110
Jose Francisco Juan Manuel Cordova Rodriguez Sandoval
My name is Nelson. I think it's ok.
>>28246285
This sounds like a tumblr FTM name
>>28246110
durrr my name isTrevor
>>28246137
Ben10/10
>>28246163
Its okay
>>28246168
Kinda victorian.
>>28246170
JUST
>>28246190
Thats my nephews name. I like it.
>>28246190
Unique
>>28246285
Jap?
>>28246305
Hi supes
>>28246340
Fuccboi
>>28246425
Cool. Dominica are chill. Afaik.
>>28246470
Cute.
I'm Curon. Pronounced Cuhr(or Curr)-rahn.
Ryan here.
>>28246110
Bad. 2/10
>>28246137
Boring. 4/10
>>28246163
6/10.
>>28246168
8/10
>>28246170
1/10
>>28246190
3/10. Dylan was the name of the kid we all bullied growing up.
>>28246246
2/10
>>28246252
6/10
>>28246285
10/10, shame you're lying.
>>28246305
3/10
>>28246340
1/10. Fucking hated Tyler growing up.
>>28246425
9/10
>>28246503
2/10
>>28246507
1/10
>>28246516
5/10
>>28246523
It's a Japanese girl's name.
One of the better idols in IM@S has the same name.
>>28246557
3/10
>>28246110anna
so generic and white.
>>28246503
>Sophie.
Tranny, calling it now.
All Sophies are trannies.
I'm Elias
>>28246597
Nope. I can't be trans.I'm on my fucking period right now.
>>28246593
You're my girlfriend now.
>>28246593
Hey my namesAnnatoo.
>>28246593
You sound cute and innocent.
>>28246110
>tfw my name is Alex but the full name is so different from any other person named Alex that someone could easily find me on the internet
What do you guys think of Charissa?
That's my oneitis' name.
>>28246622But I'm on my period right now, Sophie.
>>28246597
Nah, thats the name Alice. Have never met a real bleeding woman named Alice. Theyre always fucking trannies
ManuelAdolfo
>>28246646
Is it something like Alexandru? That's my middle nameyeah I'm a slav
Elina.
Not the best.
>tfw Cade
Retarded millennial name.
>>28246605
Tip top name. Thats what my furture son will be named... probably. That or Beck Everette
>>28246698
That's a pretty name, Elina.
>>28246699
It's not that bad. It could be cool depending on what your last name is bro.
>>28246110
I'm Mark. Nice to meet you all.
Jude
I think I did this before so wesjfhweurfghsrfjs
My name is Melissa
>>28246682
Maybe I'm exaggerating
It's Alexandro
>tfw my name isShelby
Just fuck my shit up sempai
![zji3ab[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/FamUjfd.jpg "zji3ab[1].jpg")
>>28246698
I love Kumiko.
>>28246623
fine by me
>>28246632
sorry for calling your name generic and white.
>>28246641
how?
Tom's here. The plainest name imaginable.
>>28246678
Hispanic Hitler
>>28246652
Not heard that one before, it's like a mix between Chad and Clarissa?
>>28246698
Idk how to say that. Like Eh lee na or Eh lay na or Eh lie na or what.
>>28246739
Quality name, gives you +30 vs pterodactyls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFbK7ZZE9EY
>>28246743
>>28246678
You and Adolf are made for each other
>>28246698
Are you japanese, senpai?
Max
not great but not bad
>>28246767
well you aren't john
Hello /b/ I'm Maddy(I'm male)
>>28246777
>trips of the lord
How is Elina a Jap name, faggot?
>>28246763
>fine by me
Alright Anna, where do you live?
Callum
>>28246733
Thanks.
>>28246769
It's pronounced Eh Lee Nah.
>>28246777
I'm White kouhai-san.
>>28246758
Nice cars though
>>28246749
Only Melissa's I've known have all been emo/goth chicks. Nice but melodramatic.
>>28246767
You should make a new name to go by Tom. Make a cool rearrangement of the letters, like into Lord something.
>>28246803
Your parents are still looking for you.
>>28246769
>Not heard that one before, it's like a mix between Chad and Clarissa?
It's Greek I think.
>>28246749
Blease be my gf
[Spoiler]original comment[/spoiler]
>>28246641
>>28246763
>>28246763
Well I'm from burgerland (specifically the midwest) and it sounds like a sweet little church girls name straight out of some comfy novel.
>>28246827
That's unfortunate, lad.
>>28246840
Really? That's funny. Every other Melissa I've ever met has been a Stacey
Ivan.
And no, I'm not slavic.
>>28246840
Im named after the cars and the juice bitch from the movie Steel Magnolias
Marc
>tfw not Mark
FUCK YOU GRANDMA YOU LOVE MARC CHAGALL SO MUCH YOU HAD TO GIVE ME AN AUTISMO NAME
I'm Jave
I was named Liam. It was the only name my parents could agree on. I forget what other names they had planned out, but my mom wanted a bunch of traditional Irish ones which sounded too black for my dad.
Never met another Jew named Liam tho
>>28246882
>grandma
uwot
>>28246886
Irish ones sound black where you are? There's a ton of Irish names here in Scotland, pain in the ass because they're all spelled weirdly. Siobhan was the best in primary school, no one could spell it but her, poor kid.
>>28246110
I knew a Kyle in highschool he was a big dicked jock bully, later when I met him in college he was a gigantic nerd 6/10
>>28246137
7.5/10 I've always liked the name Ben
>>28246163
-20 to backstab resist
>>28246168
I've never met an Edgar such an offbeat name, 4/10
>>28246170
I am doing fine tech support, thanks for asking
>>28246190
6/10
>>28246305
I dig it, I fucking love Supes 9/10
>>28246516
5/10
>>28246585
Curon? How interesting I'd say 7/10
>>28246678
9/11
>>28246810
It seems japanese to me man
Keegan
>>28246869
Every Mellisa I met was a mentally unstable Stacey or a fat greasy chick with long hair
>>28246817
come visit me in Chicago sometime (:
>>28246860
why does everyone call my name sweet and innocent??
>>28246699
Fuck off nigger, Cade Skywalker was based as shit
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Cade_Skywalker
>>28246110
Deshawn
>>28246587
A U T I S M
U
T
I
S
M
blox
>>28246946
Please never return to this place, you're bringing down the quality of not only this thread but this entire board. Thanks.
>>28246925
>uwot
Named after my uncle, named after MARC FUCKING CHAGALL
>>28246967
Yeah, you should probably just go by Sean/Shawn
>>28246967
Dindu nuffin/10
>>28246840
My parents are still looking for me? Could you be any less cryptic?
>>28246990
why tho
123123555
kirito
>>28247030
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Madeleine_McCann
Harry
this comment is original now
>>28246925
Traditional Gaelic girls names do.
>tfw they thought you were a girl for most of the pregnancy
Any other Philips in the house? It's a good name, not outlandish, but not common.
>>28246965
>jedi
>and a bounty hunter
>and a pirate
>>28246110
very jewish name
guess
>not schlomo
>>28246110
Im Luigi
>>28247050
fuck off weeb trash
1695
>>28246388
In all likelihood I'm probably the Tyler you're talking about, I have friends who post here too
Savannah, I quite like it.
>>28246955
>fat greasy chick with long hair
Well fuck. That's me.
>>28246110
im Jimmy!
David
Anyone in australia want to fuck btw, boy or girl?
>>28247234
>Anyone in Australia
S'big fuckin country mate. Y'gonna fly out just to root some skank?
>>28246503
are you from arizona sophie
>>28247085
Some friends call me LuigiMy name's Luis, btw
Jack
> tfw you know 20 other people with the same name
I'mKaitlin
mikaim not a girl!
My name is Axl
>>28247330
Are you a sociopath with a gundam?
I'm Chayce.
>Brandon
Shit name desu senpai
>>28247210
I was trying to sound handsome and i failed
>>28246803
>Maddy(I'm male)
why the fuck did your parents name you a girl name?
>>28247275
well assuming you're on the eastern coast which anyone is statistically likely to be, they're only a day and a cheap train ticket away. worth it for some tail mate
>>28247361
your album sucks bro
Casey.
I'm a guy.
>>28247428
I didn't even try to be honest, people just buy anything
>>28247210
>>28247397
poor jimmy, at least you tried.
>>28247318
Is your last name Sharma
>>28246110
Uzi.
Not even joking.
Avery.
I'm a guy btw.
>>28247468
take me away from here
>>28246110
Ash
desu desu
Name's Adrian
>>28247632
that's a really cool name actually
are you gonna be a pokemon trainer
you should be a bird handler in a zoo, when kids see your name they'll be like "woooaaaah"
i think bird handlers might even make ok money but i have no clue
>>28247655
I think I've seen this exact same post before
maybe I am just having deja vu or something, either that or you've posted in other name threads before with that image
>>28247667
I handled your mom's bird last night
>>28247566
aree you black
>>28247667
Nah I never got into Pokemon or card games
I can hold my own in racing games, though.
Scott. A great, simple name. And when people call me Scotty, it makes me feel cute.
>>28247688
That's impossible, the robot would prevent it.
Maybe there's another suave Adrian around here.
>>28247717
No
Original comment desu senpai
>>28247717
what is your name anon
>>28247771
Kirari is so fuckin cute
I want to just die not having Kirari gf
>>28247771
I wish my name was Adrian. My birth name fucking sucks my parents were idiots, no one names their kid Grant anymore it's like you want your kid to be fat and stupid.
Adrian is a graceful, hard consonant name. Grant was that kid who wore turtlenecks and shorts to school, I fucking hate my name.
Sebastian desu
>>28247810
Matt orgjogakjdpogij
hello! my name is gaya (pronounced ga-ya)
>>28247903
Sounds like an insult my Cajun grandparents would use.
My name's Cree, yes it's a girls name.
>>28247940
>girls
LO|\|DON
O
N
D
O
N
>>28247837
Personally I find girls with false confidence cuter, such as Koshimizu Sachiko. Love it when they struggle to keep the act up.
>>28246593
>>28246632
Anna is the name of both my first major crush and my longest gf. She turned into a horrible fucking cunt and a feminist before leaving me in a fit of misplaced jealous anger. Too bad such a nice name is ruined for me.That feel when I can't say what country I'm from or else anyone who could recognize me would due to my rare English/American name
>>28247863
Adrian here.
Grant's a good name, to me it has a really good ring to it of someone loyal and not just a dime-a-dozen kind of guy. It's like a best friend's name.
What you described was exactly how my school life went up until high school. I suppose our name's just get better with age, but start off pretty badly with turtleneck's and pot bellies.
>>28248001
Sachiko is definitely a top qt and her smug confidece should not be underestimated, but Kirari's pure appeal shouldn't be doubted either senpai
>>28246110
the name is joseph
Soren
>>28246170
>>28246163
>>28246503
>>28246585
>>28246605
>>28246678
>>28246803
>>28247305
>>28247330
>>28247447
>>28247566
>>28247903
Eyy dank rare names are based
>>28246136
>>28246137
>>28246190
>>28246305
>>28246340
>>28246425
>>28246557
>>28246593
>>28246646
>>28246698
>>28246767
>>28246799
>>28247070
pretty normy tier
Im Wyatt. I have only met one other Wyatt irl and he was 7 years old.
>>28248100
I've unfortunately grown tired of innocent pure girls and like them morebullied or traumatized
That's why I like Sachiko and feel that maybe I can relate to her. Putting on a tough act while pretending to be the cutest and trying hard to be confident. I've done it a lot despite being really anxious and shy and I haven't met anyone who is nice who does it too.
I've read many comics where, for example, Sachiko's fame begins to drop off as she does more silly shows and such and does her best to stay in the business despite failing, and eventually the producer leaves her.She wakes up in the lap of the producer as it was only a nightmare and cries a bit as the producer is hopelessly confused
>>28248275
wow
you're really fuckin cute then
i'm a liz
literally never met another liz that isn't an obese tumblr feminist
>>28248311
Fuck, didn't realize I made a mistake there.
I try to be funny and charming, and it pretty much always works. I'm not cute.People tell me I'm cute when I have really high pitched hiccups frequently due to my messed up stomach and I hate it and like it at the same time.
>>28248369
Please don't kys
b gf instead
Wojciech
Now try to pronounce this.
>>28248409
>I'm not cute.
>I have really high pitched hiccups frequently due to my messed up stomach and I hate it and like it at the same time.
Pick one, you cutie
>>28248127
Josephu Joestar!
My family named meafter pic related, specifically him
Not joking.
>>28248478
Stahpor the waifu gets it
>>28248409
ffs would make you cute.
Where are you from?
>>28248600
I can't say, I'm paranoid about people recognizing me.Within Europe is all I can give you
>>28248583
>implying it's not you pinned against the wall
You're such a qt
>>28248645
Oyasumi Punpun is god tier shit btw
>nicolaj
tfw russian robot
>>28248657I warned you, original ravioli
>Leo
It's short forLeopoldo
I'm Kajan. Whoever can doxx me with that gets a cookie.
>>28248758That's what you want for yourself, isn't it?You hiccuping cutie
>>28248250
>someone complimented my name
>first time this has ever happened to me in my entire life
I didn't even think it was possible.
>>28248445
Oh-yee-shay?
I dont even
Manuel
Really beaner and there's nothing Hispanic about me besides phenotype
I'm not one of those shitty self loathing Latinos though, i hate those guys almost as much as cholos
>>28248800
Yes. I want that.I want a qt to bear my children since I am a man. You knew that, right anon? Why do you insist on calling me cute
Isabel is here.
The only Isabel.
Ryan.
Is this an alpha or beta name?
>>28248881
Becauseyou're adorably cute, and you know it
>>28248863
Fucked that name up. Im learning swedish and its screwing up umy pronunciation.
>>28248715
I was wondering where it was from.
Can you tell me where this is from?
>>28248899
DAMNIT ANON STOP BULLYING
NO BULLY
>>28248923
Looks like Inoi Asano's work
Durandal
it's french, as far as i know.
>>28248971
I want to bully you with my dick.cutie
>>28246110
My name is Lei
>>28248994
But why anon? Do you like men?
>>28248863
>>28248899
It's more like this:
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1smkoUXS12l
Ps. I know my voice is bad + Runny nose makes it even worse
>>28246388super smash blox
>>28249040
More importantly, do you like me?I only like cuteboys like you
>>28249044
I like the accent, to be honest.
Ian
Oregano commentano
>>28249097
But anon, I am not cute. I only sometimes make cute sounds when I hiccup or when someone tries to touch me and I yelp audibly. I'm muscular, hairy and have similar facial features as Snake from MGS. I'm not cute.
Sorry.
You're persistent, but I feel like I'm leading you on nowhere. You seem alright.
>>28249239
>I only sometimes make cute sounds when I hiccup or when someone tries to touch me and I yelp audibly
You're still cute tbo senpai
>>28249272
NOOOOOOO
I DENY
DENYwhat does tbo mean
>>28249306
It's just a lazy way of bypassing the wordfilter <3your denial is making me hardcutie
>>28248409
pls be my qt european boy bf
you are socute
>>28248988
>Durandal
you from the US though?
May
originale comment
>>28249461
>>28249379
Why
Why would either of you want a hairy muscular guy who hiccups while you bully and buttfuck him? Especially when he's not cute at all?
I'm off to bed now, don't go getting STD's anons. I hear men who fuck men get them more often and I want you to stay safe.
>>28249531
May?
Don't you belong in R/S?
I'm matt and I'm a stupid dumb idiot
>>28248988
Durandal (or Durendal) is a sword of Roland
Its from Chanson de Geste originated legends.
>>28249567
Hey Matt, I am a stupid dumb idiot too
How was your day
Draven is my name and suicide is my game.
I'm really bad at it btw.
I'm yclept as Richard
Disregard my archaism
Randii
Fuck my parents.
JesseBoy not girl
>>28246767
True name homies, we ride together we die together
>>28249553
>Why would either of you want a hairy muscular guy who hiccups while you bully and buttfuck him?
You know exactly why.
Name is Tristan. I've met 3 others irl, all in different states.
Hello my name is
>Erik
My name is Thomas but I've always gone by Tom because I like it better. I fucking hate being called Tommy unless it's by a select few people.
>>28249715
Three Toms so far ITT, we are legion
Sergio.
I'm white.
>>28247549
10/10 you son of a gun.
>>28249563
>tfw not into pokemon
my name's a waste anon, i'm sorry
>>28249705
Oh my stars, is that Erik J?
Based Erik J, I love that guy.
>>28247549
lil uzi vert new mixtape out now
>>28249693
Ayyy! My fellow Tristan!
>>28249789
I'm sure you're cute anyway, it's okay.
Gabriel
>inb4 mexican
I'm actually white, but I did grow up around many Mexicans and Cubans (south Florida)
>>28249715
go by thomas, it sounds a little more mature, a little less like a lumberjack name
Jesse
(Not OG)
>>28249831
Ayyy. I actually really hate it, use my middle name instead.
>Tfw 2 of the 3 Tristans i met are autistic and the other one is a half retarded wrestler
My name is Onyebuchi
>>28249845
8/10. I like angelic names.
>>28249845
Why Mexican? It's actually Old Testament's Angel name, so it's more like Jewish name.
>Americans are weird.
>>28249905
>Onyebuchi
Is it actually?
I really like that name, it's keeps your heritage while not sounding weird as fuck at the same time
it actually kinda rolls off the tongue desu
>>28246137
7/10 (that's my brothers name)
>>28246190
7/10
>>28246285
7/10
>>28246305
8/10
>>28246425
7/10
>>28246503
8/10
>>28246516
7/10
>>28246593
8/10
>>28246605
9/10
>>28246646
8/10
>>28246699
8/10
>>28246739
9/10
>>28246767
7/10
>>28246799
9/10
>>28246803
Weirdly cool lol 8/10
>>28246827
7/10
>>28246873
7/10
>>28246882
8/10
>>28246946
I have a friend names keegan. You don't live in NC do you?
>>28247070
10/10 I actually love this name
>>28247234
8/10
>>28247314
7/10
>>28247330
7/10
>>28247632
7/10
>>28247655
7/10
>>28247751
9/10
>>28247866
10/10
>>28248127
8/10
>>28248892
8/10
>>28248898
9/10
>>28249005
7/10
I'm Sarah
>>28249846
I really only go by Thomas for formal occasions, I've also gotten a bunch of nicknames so I don't really go by Tom much anymore unless I'm talking with friends back home
>>28246110
My name is Aryeh. My parents thought giving me a Hebrew name would make me a good Jew. No dice.
>>28247070
Yo, reporting in. The only other Philip I met was a growth stunted redneck retard, but I know it's supposedly a classy name.
Do you go by Phil at all? I almost always go by Philip, and I used to hate Phil, but now I kind of like having it as an option for people who prefer it. If country folk types want to call me Phil, it seems to fit better.
Noah. I hate it desu, but I hate names in general. I try to avoid using them as much as possible.
>>28246110
-Joel.
>>28250122
I know more than 10 Philips (actually typed as "Filip" in my country of origin), 9/10 in my opinion.
>>28250152
It's probably a lot more popular in your country than in the US. I'm assuming it's a Spanish speaking country?
>>28249496
yes, by several generations. living outside New Orleans all my life.
>>28249574
neat. my dad's name is Roland. other family members (cousin's, et c) have weird names too. maybe i should look some up.
>>28250194
I like the name Roland. Probably because I think I primarily hear it in video games.
>>28250193
nope, actually polish ,.
>>28250194
>New Orleans
Is this a pretty nice place to live?
I really wanna visit new orleans one day for mardi gras. compared to other cities in the US, it just seems to have so much more... culture
do you like it there? what race are you? is it dangerous?
>>28246110
My name is Lyle, fight me fucker
>>28250215
lol what game?
>>28250232
it is, i think. very lush and green, although if a storm is coming in it can get real muddy and wet right fast. if you're within a few miles of Pontchartrain it's muggy most of the summer.
Mardi Gras is a very large block party where tourists visit and clog the streets with crime and litter IMHO. outside of the quarters you mostly just get stragglers and drunks during Fat Tuesday and stuff.
Lots of things around here are very old, and it's obvious that the two colonies (French and Spanish) more or less grew into each other over time at the delta.
I would say it's less dangerous than Cincinnati, but in some poor areas late at night, gangs can be common. easy to avoid, but common.
>>28250335
>>28250232
i should mention that French is about as common as English around here (and even into other parishes nearby). so if you don't know at least some French there will be names and such that can be hard to pronounce. some stores or neighborhoods are majority Francophone.
>>28250231
Oh, neat. I didn't know it was popular over there.
>>28250335
I don't even really remember, I just know I've heard it in some. I wanted say one of The Elder Scrolls games, but maybe it was actually one of the Borderlands games. I like the whole related names things, like the whole Scandinavian -son suffix and stuff.
>>28250335
Mardi Gras sounds kind of like a shitfest honestly. I'd love to get fucked up in New Orleans, but I'd just want to get stoned and drunk in some little hole int he wall bar somewhere. I wish I was over 21.
>>28250375
>I'd just want to get stoned and drunk in some little hole int he wall bar somewhere
That's pretty easy to do then - especially off side streets and avoiding the main areas. most restaurants clubs and bars are open all the time and police are more cracking down on violence and theft than drunks or stoned people just chilling.
>>28249913
>>28249905
I say Mexican because most Gabriels I have ever known have been hispanic
Atashi no namae wa 'Mae' desu. Desu.
>>28250444
How hard is it to find bars which don't card?
>>28250505
most do because there's always another vendor to take your customers when you're shut down and imprisoned for selling to a minor.
>>28250554
Fair enough. When I get a job, I really need to find a fake ID.
Im Dakota
My name is Denis
>>28250660
why not just get someone legal to buy for you and drink at home? it's legal to do in LA (and some other states) without parental consent.
>>28250726
I don't have any friends, and getting hobos to do it is a pain in the ass. If I'm hitting up hobos for shit, I might as well go after hard drugs.
>>28250823
it's amazing to me that people can not have any friends or family willing to do stuff for them out of love or loyalty.
i'm on /r9k/ for my horrid luck with women, but why don't you have friends where you are? are you very isolated? abrasive? low effort low return for average male friends still too much effort?
JOE243thg
>>28246110
Constantine
ORIGINAL
>>28250879
I mean my mom used to be happy to buy me alcohol, but now she knows I'm a drug addict, so that makes her less willing.
I had one high school friend, and he went to college on the other side of the country. In his words, people say I seem like I could be nice, but I don't engage with them enough for them to find out. After high school I've been highly isolated. Went to college, dropped out without making any long term friends, Made some acquaintances in the psych ward, but most of the people I stayed in contact with have totally fallen apart (one relapsed, another had their boyfriend die and that fucked them up real bad, another just kind of went AWOL). One is still in contact with me, but he's kind of exhausting because he's really manic and delusional.
>tfw ur name isn't posted
I'm Ethan
>inb4 great moves keep it up
>inb4 IMETHANBRADBERRY
>>28246190
8/10
>>28246470
9/10 cute
>>28246503
9/10 also cute
>>28246585
8/10 unusual but I like it
>>28246593
8/10
>>28246739
7/10
>>28246767
6/10
>>28246827
7/10
>>28246873
9/10 nice nice
>>28247751
9/10 Scotty is adorable
>>28248369
8/10 cute
>>28249970
8/10
>>28250924
7/10
Lillian
My name is Albert... oo'
Lucas desu
>>28251111
nice quads Ethan.
>>28246110
my name isJoel
It's one of those names you actually forget that they're names.
>>28246110
Janos
>Parents gave me cool name, Lance
>Still turn out to be a failure
