is anyone getting sick of the shit shonen anime? it's the same very season. attack on titan, one punch, now that hero academy crap, etc
how do people keep enjoying this shit?
>>28166881
Normalfags like those shows.
>>28166881
I switched over to CGDCT anime back in January.
Finally anime is great again.
>>28167211
any this season?
I got sick of shounen like 10 years ago.
>>28166881
>Attack on Titan, One Punch Man, Boku no Hero Academia
only one of these shows is an actual shonen though, even if you stretch the definition
>>28166881
Their plots are getting way too similar
Every other anime these days has this plot
>magic high school where teenagers fight
>MC is a beta guy
>meets a pink haired foreign princess with fire powers
>participates in magical fighting tournament
>wins by the Power of Friendship
This is getting old, real fucking old
>>28167466
you know what i mean, the same shitty battle manga/anime
>>28167419
Flying witch is as comfy as non non biyori.
Joker game looks good for now.
Luluco and kiznaiver are from trigger.
Haifuri may be good, but it's early to say something.
I don't watch anime because I'm not normie trash.
>>28166881
Watch shoujo brother, embrace shoujojust kidding, shoujo is like the ultimate torture
>>28167482
One Punch Man is more of a comedy IMO, and SnK doesn't use most of the conventional shonen tropes. Boku no Hero however is as cliche as it gets and fucking horrible, the MC's superpower is boring and everything is incredibly childish
>>28167495
>when you want to fit in
>>28167545
fuck that show
>>28167545
that stuff is literally made for girls to self insert and fantasize about chad
>tfw gintama isn't coming back
>ever
>>28167495
>Anime
>Normie
Since when?
>>28166901
no they dont
anyway watch legend of the galactic heroes, it's game of thrones in space
>>28167564
>bandwagons anime
>accuses others of trying to fit in
ok norman
>>28167617
I dropped both One Punch Man and SnK, what the fuck are you even talking about?
>>28167642
get some reading comprehension, reddit
>>28167642
>>28167617
Popular =/= normie tier
Why is it so hard to understand that if a lot of people like a single anime, the anime might actually be good, and you shouldn't dismiss it for being "normie"
>>28167545
Last shoujo manga I read, I was left devastated and NTR'd. So I'm posting some non-traumatizing one.
>>28167663
So why is liking anime for normies then? Because
some show are popular among them? The same goes for every medium that exists.
>>28167678
I never said that popular anime are bad by default
>>28167678
seriously reddit...
anime is entirely normie.
you can't watch some anime and not others and not be a normie.
it's like saying you aren't a normie because you only smoke one kind of obscure hipster weed strain
>>28167687
Every shoujo manga is NTR to some extent
The last (and maybe the only decent) shoujo anime I watched was maid sama
>>28167616
I was going to watch that show soon. I'd recommend Dougram for you though.
Anime died in 2012. Move on to cars or Indy wrestling
all anime is shit
try and stop me, robato
>>28167967
why 2012 specifically? Just wondering
>>28166881
>2016
>not being a ouiaboo
Shounen has always been shit, you just grew up is all. It's called shounen for a reason. Shoujo has limited appeal past the age of 18 as long as you stay away from ones that are very romance-focused.
There's some titles here and there that end up being good, it's just a matter of if it's worth it to you to weed through. I still give most of the new shows 2-3 episodes before it's dismissed as shounenshit.
Stick to Seinen/Josei and you won't be disappointed, even if the amount of content is severely reduced. They handle drama in a much more realistic way, which is a main component in any show with a plot.
Of course once you learn to enjoy CGDCT, all of this becomes meaningless because you've found the best form of entertainment known to man and it will never get old.
Stray Dogs is quite interesting this season
what's wrong with one punch man?
>>28166901
>normalfags
>watching anime
i wish i was young and naive again
>>28168417
ignorance is bliss. i was much happier when i was young and stupid.
>>28168364
I'm getting a Kekkai Sensen vibe from it. Very character-focused show with lots going on in the background. Plenty of room for expansion too since they apparently have a war of sorts going on and black market trade.
My only concern is that Bones is making this one as well. I lost faith in them after they had to wait an entire season just to air Kekkai Sensen's finale. Extended time or not, that's inexcusable. Why can't Bones ever make a decent ending?
>>28166881
>Not being sick of it 10 years ago
Fucking newfags
It's probably because anime is for kids and kids go to school.
>>28166881
no they watch the same thing because thats what they love and they want more of it why would you watch something you barely enjoy
>being such a god damn autist that you can't enjoy good anime
What a faggot. I'm going to go watch that hero academy now because you mentioned it with those other god tier anime.
tfw all anime is now either generic shounen hero stuff or generic moe cutesy anime.
>>28167492
Joker Game is too NIPPON BANZAI
Flying Witch is comfy indeed, mandrake best girl
Kiznaiver is mediocre, Luluco is 10/10 entertainment
Re:Zero is a pleasant surprise
Boku no Hero Academia is pretty good, but inferior to manga
Kabaneri has a lot of potential
>>28167564
>OPM more of a comedy
its become a blatant parody of itself, it's hailed as ''trope-breaking'' and ''genre-defining'' but it does the same dogshit ''le one puuuunch!!!'' joke.
people actually hype when they see the fights that go on. its done by a great artist and the anime is done by better animators. Comedy? Sure, if you think their jokes are funny.
>tfw my saitama suit is on its way
>>28168663
Oh true, I forgot RE:zero, indeed is pretty good
>why do humans love stories about larger than life heroes having adventures?
Topkek
artists really need to get on drawing Hai-furi porn imho
>>28166881
Harem is for true men. God bless Japan and those who make these gems of the universe.
>>28169282
those heroes aren't larger than life they are fucking beta and get handholded
>>28169040
OPM was originally webcomic with shitty illustration by ONE.
It was the jokes/comedy aspect that made it become famous, enough that Murata illustrated it.
If you want a different type of anime thats also new you should check out Mayoiga, it's made by the same people who made Another. The first 4 episode have been pretty good. Its a mystery thriller. The female lead is a qt autist.
It's been that way for decades now.
Youre just starting to see it because you probably arent that old.
Any anime remotely related to anything about school life is automatically shit tier.
>>28169538
I sincerely hope you're just baiting.
>>28168604
Not all anime is for kids, anon.. Try to broad your horizons.
Go watch Cowboy Bebop and tell me that show appeals to kids.
>>28169695
>Cowboy Bebop
Reddit-tier advice. Watch Texhnolyze or Ghost in the Shell for fuck's sake.
>>28169538
i like mysteries so i'll watch it
rokka no yuusha was awesome because i thought it would be your standard battle shit but it was a whodunit in disguise
>>28169878
Those are good too. I want to see a kid go through the GitS Stand Alone Complex series. I guarantee you they wont make it.
Theres nothing wrong with CB though.
>>28169421
Saitama is a superman AT, though I am not sure if it is serious or comedy or parody.
Also you can see super human on real life already, just head up to your Afro/nigger community.
>>28169989
Didn't say there's anything wrong with CB, it's just that there are many better "entry-level" series to recommend.
And yeah, I agree. GitS wouldn't be enjoyed bynormalchildren. It's not on the level of Berserk, but still.
>>28169972
Don't listen to him, anon. It's more of a cheesy, cringeworthy comedy than a mystery show.
>it's an "anons who just discovered Cowboy Bebop and other entry-level old anime dubs try to trash talk modern anime" episode
>>28169695
he's not saying that you fucking idiot
shonen is literally designed to be consumed by 8-14 year old japanese kids
they can't tell that their shows all have the same tropes over and over and by the time they would notice, they've outgrown them
>>28170170
I agree with you, but
>meIRL.jpg
please be bait
>>28170205
*png, wew lad
>>28170205
>>28170247
you are incredibly stupid please don't talk ever again
>>28170279
so you unironically identify with hachiman? Are you serious m8?
>>28169878
this desu
originale el bot
>>28170311
Why are you here if you don't identify with a loner character?
>>28170489
>Hachiman
>loner
No. The series tries to present him as a robot, but the girls still want his dick in the end. Fucking bullshit if you ask me. At least Misaki had a reason to put up with Satou, SNAFU is just fanservice for people who identify themselves as loners.
>>28166881
Wasn't there that animator guy who said otakaus are ruining anime or something? If that's true I think it's because of the weeaboo standards, and because of their "we want ____ and will only buy stuff referring to ____" mentality. They are stuck doing the same thing for people desperate and picky for their escapism. Anime is following the money, not branching out and exploring the potential of the medium. Things like OPM and stuff sell, and they need the money for all the effort the put in, it's like following a game meta. At least that's my take on it, feelsbadman
>>28170580
It's a quote from Miazaki, which is funny because he also only produces the same shit
>>28170613
Kek Is that so? Man what a loop anime is in right now, hope it gets better
>>28166881
I'm sick of the "MC has visible change to him meaning he's overpowered and serious and he never loses."
Recently started watching Ruroni Kenshin and that shit is irksome.
>>28166881
The target audience is meant to enjoy it for a few years in their teens and then grow out of it.
>>28170580
it's false, anime has never been more diverse with the different "artsy" shows, the children's daytime shows, the fujoshi shows, the late-night ecchi
he's just mad about japanese otakus, he still loves american fans who aren't that different, just because he is self-hating and hates japanese people
and the section about animators having to make shows with cute girls is false as well, the studio wants to make cheap anime that sells, the only market for that is to pander
if you have money and don't care about the immediate result, they can do whatever they want, but the nip studios want their cake and to eat it too
>>28169521
OPM is not funny.
>>28166881
There's really good battle shounen dude. Hunter X Hunter, Shaman King, JoJo's, Fullmetal Alchemist, Hokuto no Ken, and a lot more. There's also a ton of great sports shounen. People who bitch about shounen have not read very much of it.
>>28171129
There's a reason that this
http://galaxyheavyblow.web.fc2.com/
Became what it is today.
But hey, you're entitled to your opinion.
>>28171536
OPM is popular primarily because it introduces a lot of characters and makes you wonder what their abilities and characteristics are. A lot of successful early shounen tend to do this.
The fight scenes are, honestly, bad. Good shounen usually involves an underdog overcoming, through wits or determination, an overwhelming opponent. OPM is almost immediately robbed of that dimension by virtue of its premise, as Saitama can easily kill almost everybody. I can't prove to you that it isn't funny, and you're definitely entitled to your opinion there. The characters were also, to the point I stopped reading, fairly unremarkable, and it continually reiterated a hamfisted misanthropy where citizens were portrayed ungrateful and not worth saving.
It's bad in my opinion. Early Naruto, through the Chuunin exam, was far better.
>>28171634
>popular primarily because it introduces a lot of characters and makes you wonder what their abilities and characteristics are. A lot of successful early shounen tend to do this.
It's their personalities and their interactions that are the draw.
The abilities/powers themselves are largely just sugar that got beefed up through the Murata redraw and the anime.
>The fight scenes are, honestly, bad. Good shounen usually involves an underdog overcoming, through wits or determination, an overwhelming opponent.
>OPM is almost immediately robbed of that dimension by virtue of its premise, as Saitama can easily kill almost everybody.
You're looking at this through the formula of a typical shounen battle, while this a webcomic that explicitly defies this convention.
Everyone knows the shounen protagonist will effectively win. Regardless of whether there's some flimsy reason why he might lose, he wins.
That's what Saitama pokes fun at. Instead of inventing some ridiculous pretense that manages to suspend disbelief, they just flat-out say that Saitama can kill anything with one punch.
Also a lot of the battle time doesn't even involve Saitama.
>The characters were also, to the point I stopped reading, fairly unremarkable
I'm not sure where you're getting this from.
>and it continually reiterated a hamfisted misanthropy where citizens were portrayed ungrateful and not worth saving
It's more that they're afraid of things that could kill them, and often cheered on heroes from the sidelines. That already is a sign of being grateful, the cheering. It's not like they're capable of helping, after all.
For most heroes except Saitama, the citizens cheered on the heroes. The heroes get fan mail and fan clubs, hell the Hero Association gets its funding from public donations.
There was the occasional bad egg, e.g. the otaku in Genos/Mumen Rider vs Sea King, but those were the exceptions. They were also balanced by good citizens who actively took risks to help.
>>28170203
>they can't tell that their shows all have the same tropes over and over and by the time they would notice, they've outgrown them
I guess thats the nice thing about children's entertainment.. You can rehash the same shit over and over again because the audience only has about ~10 or so years before they move on, then new kids come in. Rinse and repeat.
The japanese know this, which is why much of their children's entertainment is so same-y.
Pokemon has had the same formula for 25 years, for example. I think its only in the west where grown people still play then. In japan its always children.
>>28172232
Let me put this another way.
If the central point of this webcomic was the action/winning/losing, then it would have never gone viral and reached 8 million hits by 2012.
The art after all
http://galaxyheavyblow.web.fc2.com/
is mediocre. The action is portrayed poorly.
But that's not what the fights are about. It's about the people of the fights themselves.
For example, with Boros vs Saitama, it was about Saitama seeing himself in Boros, a person who scoured the galaxy looking for a good fight. That's why he humored him with a fight, and why he didn't just immediately obliterate him.
Even the small mini-fights, e.g. when the giant guy and his mad-scientist brother go around destroying cities. The giant realizes there's no point in being strong and ruling the world if he doesn't have his brother.
>>28172232
>Everyone knows the shounen protagonist will effectively win. Regardless of whether there's some flimsy reason why he might lose, he wins.
This is actually a pretty good apology for it. I think the formula can be, and has been inverted in certain ways, with protagonists outright losing or being forced to use reason instead of power. I also think it's just very satisfying when people use the environment or do something surprising or creative to overcome their opponent.
I'll also be honest and say I stopped reading it over a year ago.
But you're good at arguing and I'll grant a lot of your points. At the very least I don't remember the characters well enough to recall why I didn't find them compelling, and you did a good job of recalling specific instances of people being shitty when I thought it was the writer being generally hamfisted.
Sorry I can't give you a satisfying reply chain here, continue enjoying what you enjoy.
>>28170741
Can you imagine following something like One Piece or Naruto but then not knowing how it ends because it wont happen until like 15 years later?
How do you just grow out of something without even knowing how it ends? I dont know, I think it would bother me. I cant just drop something in the middle of it when I've invested so much time to it.
>>28172519
>a reply that recognizes good points made by the other person and it doesn't just call them a faggot
W-where am I?
>>28166881
None of those are shonens you fucking retard.
I doubt you watch that much anime you poser
>>28172669
Hero Academia was literally published in Shonen Jump
You're arguably right about the others.
