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How can anyone who has had sex also have anxiety or depression?
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How can anyone who has had sex also have anxiety or depression?

What can they have to be upset about when they've been paid the highest compliment and simultaneously achieved their purpose on earth?
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because we're still human.

it's no different from asking why anyone who has access to food can feel sad. you're just being weird.
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How can anyone who doesn't have a mutilated penis also have anxiety or depression?

What can they have to be upset about when they are actually complete men?
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>>28161133
because they aren't 10 years old.

Sex isn't even that big of a deal.

You get the exact same result when jacking off only you don't have to stick around afterwards
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>>28161150
This is true. I doubt the vast, vast majority of them have it as bad as even the best-off khv bots, but you shouldn't bee too quick to judge. More importantly, it's easy to see this as the end-all-be-all from where we're standing. For many, obviously, it isn't.
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>>28161133
Because having anxiety and depression is a cool thing and very hip these days.
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>>28161133
There's real depression and there's meme depression.

Nobody but robots can experience true depression.
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>>28161133
>if I could just get laid, it would fix me

It doesn't. The issue isn't your virginity. The issue is who you are, not what you do.
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>>28161133

In my longest relationship I was on antidepressants the whole time.

Not being able to ejaculate was great for her but hell for me.
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I have had sex many times. I am also diagnosed with clinical depression, panic disorder, and autism spectrum disorder.

Anxiety is an illogical thing. It has nothing to do with sex for me. Things that give me panic attacks typically don't have anything to do with other people.

Depression is not something that happens to me because of my situation in life. I have an awesome, amazing life full of loving people. But my brain is fucked up and many days I am miserable anyway. Depression is not a reaction to outside factors, it is something that happens because of inside factors.

I think you're also putting sex on a pedestal. It's not that great.
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>>28161251
*and women.

because if you're going to use the word, you have to acknowledge what it comes from and what professionals say.
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How is having sex "the highest compliment" and "achieving your purpose on earth"? You have a very narrow view of "purpose" in this life.

Being hired as a principal artist at the Bolshoi theater in Moscow would be a way higher compliment that having some random chick suck my cock. I mean if you're a virgin I could understand putting sex on a pedestal, but once you've had it, sex just by itself is somewhat unremarkable. And I say this as someone who hasn't had sex in four years.
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Sex gets boring after like the 50th time.

I'm also only having sex for like 1% of the time that I'm awake, the other 99% can be shitty.
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>>28161345
Nah I'm >>28161215 but I see most people who are dismissing sex's importance have already had it. The thing about perspective goes both ways, brother.
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I miss him every day. It gets easier as time goes on but the pain is real. Its not a competition, unrequited and ended love is sad and hurts just as much as anything else, if not more.
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>>28161345
What if they hired you and then sucked your dick
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leaving something behind that allows future scientists to catalogue your genes is not fulfilling a purpose you fucking IDIOT
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>>28161133
Because anon, depression lies deep in the roots of feeling truly unfulfilled... As a human being. Sex is kind of a material thing. It's cool but once you've been there and done that over and over it just becomes like anything else and you're bored again. Depression is when you're sitting in a room full of all these material things you've ever wanted and feel more miserable than ever when you finally realize they were never gonna help change anything in the end. Find what makes you happy and complete, but fuck knows what that is...
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>>28161389
That would be great, but being able to sing opera at one of the world's most renowned and storied houses would be the more important part of the deal for me personally.
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>>28161452
>Find what makes you happy and complete, but fuck knows what that is...
Sex would make me happy and complete.

Checkmate, asshole.
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>>28161133
if that's all it'd take to cure your depression then i hope someone comes along and has sex with you. i don't see a solution for mine
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>>28161553

Why don't you rape someone like a Muslim?
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>>28161553

How would you know until you have it ?
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>>28161420
What is the purpose then?
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>>28161133
I have sex with the girl I lost my virginity to around three times a week now. This has been going on for about three weeks.

I still want to die. I still cannot handle myself in social situations due to crippling anxiety. I still think about suicide at least 10 times a day, seriously considering it at least half of those.

You idiots don't realize that sex is just a meme? You think everything gets magically fixed just because you put your cock into some girl? Here's the sad reality:

NOTHING CHANGES AT ALL.
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>>28161726
How did you manage to have sex if you have "crippling anxiety"?
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>>28161745
Because I fell for the meme like most people on here. I honestly believed that somehow it would solve my problems. Plus, I've been in a relationship with this girl for like four months now, so it wasn't that scary to try it with her.
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>>28161205
SHUT THE SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU FUCKING NORMIE ASSHOLE
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You know how you anticipate a really good video game and its the best thing in the world until you play it out, then you're just waiting for the next big thing to be released while the old game collects dust, that's what finally getting laid is like.

Not saying you shouldn't pursue it, but the struggle to get laid will probably be more beneficial to your well being than the sex itself.
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>>28161133
We discover that our virginity wasn't the real reason, and we're lost in doubt and self-hatred afterwards.
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>>28161837
So sex is like Final Fantasy XIII. I may aswell off myself now.
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>>28161133
You've pushed overrating sex to the very limit, faggot.
Only issue which can be solved by having sex for the first time is your feeling of "social acceptance deficit"
This "purpose on earth" neodarwinist bullshit is crippling you a lot more than being a virgin. Just do what makes you happy and stop chasing for things you are told to chase.
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>>28161755
What I mean is how did you even talk to a girl, let alone get in a relationship with her, if your anxiety is really that bad? I don't think mine is severe, but I still wouldn't dream of talking to a girl I don't know unless she is like a cashier or whatever.
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>>28161928
not that anon but everyone has different kinds of anxiety and anxiety is a very illogical thing.

I get panic attacks (I have panic disorder) so severe that I need to be hospitalized because of them, but other people are never the cause of them. I've gotten panic attacks over stupid things like research papers or seeing a leaf on a tree and thinking it's the wrong color.

It is so important to remember that anxiety is an illogical beast that lies to us all because it knows that it can only exist as long as we are afraid.
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>>28161205
>>28161205
>Sex isn't even that big of a deal.
It's not a big deal when you've already done it - you know that at least one person wants you that way.

When you haven't done it, it's a big deal - you don't know if you're ever going to do it; for someone to want to do it with you. This feeling of self-doubt increases exponentially with age.
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Sex won't make your life problems go away like
>death of a family member
>money issues
>future worries

Also sex won't make it easier for you to talk to strangers etc. especially when you have exclusively have sex with trusted person, like your gf or wife.
You just don't have that level of trust to random people.
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>>28161251
>real depression is what I say it is

A normie, as you put it, can absolutely become more depressed than a robot, and be closer to the clinical sense than a robot would. Someone who's inexplicably sad despite having a good life, a completely out of the normal range emotional reaction for the stimuli present in their live.

A robot being sad because he has nothing to be happy about in his life isn't depression. If you feel shit, and have a shit life, you're experiencing a normal reaction to your circumstances, and are undeniably not suffering from major depressive disorder. It's just an excuse for you to refuse to improve it "Oh, it's not my fault, it's normies/mental illness/the jews/my mum etc".
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>>28161133
It's called midlife crisis.
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>>28161205
breathing isn't a big deal I do it all the time it doesn't even really feel good
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>>28161205
go fuck yourself if its so great. Getting laid changed my entire attitude towards people and situations. I just dont give a fuck anymore. When I see people get angry, I just think , "wtf is wrong with you? go get laid, you'll feel better"
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How can anyone who has had sex also have anxiety or depression?

What can they have to be upset about when they've been paid the highest compliment and simultaneously achieved their purpose on earth?

Because we aren't built that way, If we were then regardless of the compliment received we would slowly but surely become satisfied happy beings instead of the unfulfilled lustful greedy species that we are.

Sex can be great, it can also be a hollow empty experience, and it certainly does not solve any problems. If you want it start focusing on what you can bring to the table, and if you feel that isn't enough then start working towards feeling like you do.

Don't get caught up in the porn/tabloid industries fake as shit standards for how you should look/act or be either. It is just as much bullshit as whatever womans tabloid you wanna pick and how it projects that women are .
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>>28162894
Not breathing will actually fucking kill you though, not having sex won't cause any physical harm.

>>28162996
Or maybe you just grew up anon. I've had a few partners, and getting laid doesn't really change my attitude for more than a few hours. You feel great until the next morning pretty much, at absolute most, and then you're back to normal. It's not magic.
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>>28161553
Either you don't have depression or are missing the point of what he's saying entirely.
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>>28161928
Long, long story, but short version is that basically she was my oneitis, and I got to the point of depression where I told myself that if I didn't talk to her, I was going to just off myself.
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>>28162739
I hate you people who think over something once so you have something to say, but not twice, and certainly not three times, so you don't have anything nearly complete to say.

One can be both incapable of feeling good and be in a situation that wouldn't prompt feeling good anyways.
And it's a logical process for someone incapable of feeling good for a long time to then be caused to get into a bad situation. If it's all the same to them, no escape from being their sad selves at the end of the day no matter what they do, of course they don't have the perspective and priorities that contribute to building a life that would be good for someone that could appreciate it.
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>sex isn't great
>nothing changes after sex

Well I am 26 and still a virgin so I think that having sex would be a major victory for me. All of you sex-havers just take it for granted, whereas I see it as a necessary step to become a fully functioning adult.
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>>28163073
I don't need to ever have reproduction prospects, celibacy would work. I just have really strong instincts making me want to.
I don't need to survive today, dying now would work. I just have really strong instincts making me want to.
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>>28163230
Do you honestly think that once you stick your dick into someone, your life will change for the better?

No, you just lose that concept of being a virgin. After you feel good for a little, you begin to realize how meaningless it all is, and eventually you feel worse, because you realize that you spent your entire life trying to get something this fucking worthless.
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>>28161133
If you had sex once, it doesn't necessarily mean it could happen again, and that could be more depressing.
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>>28163151
You're right, you can have a reaction outside the norm for a situation you're in, even if it's a bad one. But feeling like unfulfilled shit when you do little but sit at home and self flagellate on an online forum all day isn't depression.

>And it's a logical process for someone incapable of feeling good for a long time to then be caused to get into a bad situation.

It is, yes, but lets be honest, that's not what's going on here with most people. They don't have shit lives because they developed mental illness and ruined their previously well functioning lives, they feel depressed because they had shit lives.

>no escape from being their sad selves at the end of the day no matter what they do, of course they don't have the perspective and priorities that contribute to building a life that would be good for someone that could appreciate it

Factually incorrect. They're not making consistent attempts to improve themselves, they're complaining about how it's impossible to fix on 4chan, and how them going out once proves this. Schizophrenics regularly recover and live decent lives, robots aren't so unwell that they're incapable of doing that, they're not catatonic, they're lacking in insight, but not so much that they're delusional, more so that they misattribute what's causing their issues.

They're obsessed with being a failure, that's their identity, so they'll make up almost anything to fit that. See the xenophobia against anyone that doesn't fit that (normies), the blind rage whenever there's a thread where people suggest ways they could improve their lives, the constant moving of blame onto something apart from themselves.

These aren't things typical of major depressive disorder, which tends to have people feeling less than everyone else (so not calling normies stupid and dumb and vain), and assuming blame for things that may not even be their fault (so not shifting blame onto external factors).
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I want to make something absolutely clear because I'm sick of the ignorance going on.

DEPRESSION. AS AN "ILLNESS". DOESN'T. FUCKING. EXIST.

Depression can be caused by a lot of things. But it isn't caused by some magical, mystical "chemical imbalance" that scientists can't explain or measure.

Normies get depressed because they stay up late, eat high calorie foods, or otherwise fuck up their physiology. It's easily fixed. Robots get depressed because they have been socially isolated for long periods of time. That's harder to fix. But you can't refer to depression as if it's some abstract thing that's "always there".

People just don't suddenly "get" depression. There is always a factor. It's just that it isn't always visible.
The chemical imbalance bullshit is bunk. The monoamine theory came about in the 70's and was originally just a hypothosis. But drug companies pushed it as absolute truth, because it means that the only treatment for depression is their products.

Normies latched onto the idea because it means that they can be wealthy, have lots of friends, have a great career, great sex life, and yet still can get people to feel sorry for them over something.
And I don't even doubt that they are really depressed. The more depressed you are, the more you convince yourself you are depressed and it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

But they need to grow up and stop being bitches about it. There are people with genuine problems.
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>>28163239
You fucking know there's a difference between these things. You can live perfectly healthily without sex. It won't directly physically harm you. Stopping breathing will.

Yes, both are biological impulses, but they're completely different in their severity and ability to be controlled.

Reproduction is something that we are driven to do, but we don't get frenzied and have our minds take over if we don't get laid. If we stop eating or breathing or drinking, we will, we'll have little choice in whether we do it or not eventually, we get frenzied or just pass out and breathe anyway.
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Maybe they're attractive enough to get sex but their penis is so small that sex isn't enjoyable because it's impossible for a pussy to feel tight and they have constant feelings of shame and inadequacy
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>>28163251
Yes I do because I've lived for so many years in this sex obsessed society as basically a leper.
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>>28161133
>How can anyone who is white also have anxiety or depression?
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>>28161133

my purpose on earth is not sex. it is to propagate my genes, which requires not only sex but also impregnating a woman
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>>28163073
Not having sex will destroy the specie, retard. Well, sure, just one person not having sex will not threaten the whole specie. But just one perso suffocating and dying of it won't either.
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>>28163310
Shut up, you mongoloid.
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>>28163310
You are caught up in the concept of needs existing and survival being the paragon of needs, which society loves to claim.

But there are no needs, only wants, and reproduction before inevitable death is naturally the paragon of instinctual wants for living things.
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>>28163310
The comparison with breathing seems retarded, but some experts on the topic would list sexual activity among physiological needs which breathing is part of.
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>>28161133
>letting sex rule your life
>while never having sex
wew, seek help. You're never gonna make it.
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>>28162739
But it literally is the Jews. The Rothschild Zionist Master Jews to be precise

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fAaejNGwkn0
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>>28163305
get an education or sth and stop spouting those tinfoil hat theories, it's fucking pathetic
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>>28161133
yo, you guys have to focus on yourselves more than others and their lives. I've had sex and relationships because I only care about myself. And people respect that.

But I must admit. I can be quite cold.
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>>28163355
Sure, but we're not a hivemind, we operate on individual imperatives, not the survival of our entire species. Do we feel the need to kill a weak child? It's survival would weaken the entire species if it managed to breed, yet we still feel a parental urge to protect it.

>>28163367
You're arguing that something that continues our survival is not a need though, which is ridiculous. Your argument is clearly based off the fact that we don't actually need to live, but it's essentially just taking nihilism to it's complete extreme, and as fact, when it's a heavily contested train of thought.


Reproduction takes a natural backseat to things that we directly must do to survive. If you take the propagation of our species to be the ultimate goal for humanity (debatable, and has been many times by people much more intelligent and educated than I), then you're overly simplifying it. We can ensure the survival of the species in other ways than simply fucking. If you take sharing genes to be the ultimate goal, then you may have a point, but seeing as people do live celibate lives, it suggests that it's not a need on the same scale as water food or oxygen, as no-one can live without those.
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>>28163374
That's based off one hierarcy of needs, maslows in particular. It's also considered obsolete, and has been repetitively criticised on several things (namely that there's no real reason for the rankings past physiological need, and it doesn't represent a hierarchy), and directly the listing of sex as a need. Sex is little more than a biological annoyance that you can completely ignore, or fix by masturbating.

See sources at bottom of linked page (psychology today isn't great, but it's based off a reputable paper).
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sex-murder-and-the-meaning-life/201005/rebuilding-maslow-s-pyramid-evolutionary-foundation
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Its the same as asking "how can richt people be sad/depressed?" things dont just magically become awesome with that, it just increases your lives complexity and thus the amount of things to fuck you up and what is expected of you
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>>28163537
>live = need
just back to it again and again, but no "why"

Societies bump your survival up to a "need" because they can mostly only exploit or mutually benefit from the living. They don't need you hogging the poon, though, quite the opposite, so that's just a "want".
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College is like highschol but with more drugs and you need money.
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>>28163602
The rich just get high stress from spending most of their time scheming up new and more elaborate ways to enslave their fellow humans through trickery and evil deeds

See >>28163412
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Happiness is caused by consistent good decision making and outcomes, there is no one thing you can do that will make you happy for life.
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>>28163348
It's not going to live up to the hype and it's not like people are going to recognize and respect your newfound non-virgin status. It might lift the psychological burden and provide you with a self-esteem boost but it certainly isn't going to stop people from treating you like a pariah or a leper. Being seen with your girlfriend might sway their opinion a little though.
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>>28163609
You're making the claim that survival isn't a need, it's on you to support the claim. I'm simply arguing the importance of reproduction compared to other biological needs, as it's easily able to be ignored or you can just jerk off and get over it. You're also not going to feel horny if you're starving to death, while you will still notice dehydration or suffocation, showing they're on the same level. Suffocation is slightly higher, as we die from that nearly immediately compared to any other, and won't notice being hungry while we're deprived of oxygen.

But as I said, instead of just appealing to the idea of nihilism and attributed meaning, give me some evidence to why this is the case. Why is survival not a need for an individual human?
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>>28163739
Because if we die now instead of later, that works.
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>>28163784
But why? You're not explaining the logic behind your thought, just restating it. Why is survival not a need, when it's the sum of our ability to perform literally any other action in the absence of the spiritual? If you're not able to explain it (which is fair enough, it's a complex topic), can you at least link me to a text that could? I'm legitimately interested in learning why you believe this.
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>>28161133
Do you fags literally think sex is the holy grail of human life and ones who have achieved it are the greatest among greats? What the fuck even.
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>>28164524
No I think those who have achieved sex are normal and healthy and I'm not
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>How can anyone who has had sex also have anxiety or depression?

Because I have chronic erectile dysfunction and premature ejaculation. The combination of these two things makes sex a humiliating nightmare, not like in your virgin fantasies where it's all rainbows and good vibes.

Sex is by no means enjoyable or psychologically beneficial by default.

Does this answer your question, bitter 'incels'?
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>>28164841
>someone liked him enough to have sex with him
>thinks he has a right to complain
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>>28164868

yes because somebody 'liking' you at some point in time somehow makes your life painless and carefree until you die

Would be cool if r9k was stuff other than shit b8 nowadays
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>>28161133
>be me
>6yo
>babysitter is 13
>be at her house while dad out working
>hey anon have you ever humped?
>she pulls little dick out of my pants
>starts to suck on it
>feelsfunnyman.gov
>get hard
>she lays down naked in bed
>tells me put peepee in coocoo
>I put peepee in coocoo
>instantly piss inside
>feelsgoodman.jpg
>don't tell her about pee
>never tell anyone about this for years

I've deleloped a very strong sexual appetite since then I am also depressed and anxious and currently on lexapro. I didn't have sex again until I was 13 and haven't stopped since (I'm 23 now) so yes OP you can still have depression and anxiety when a non virgin. I'll also answer any other questions too
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>>28165079
You are literally Chad incarnate. Actually I don't even think the chadiest of chads can come close to your level of alpha.
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>>28161133
I've had sex many times. I'm still a fucking loser, though.
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>>28161133
sex is kind of lame
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>>28165203
Kek I guess so. The girl that did that is now a gay dyke tho she tried adding me on MySpace back in 08'
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>>28163352
>>28163355
Why would you want to have children?
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>>28161182
Some of them are small, so...
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>>28161133
Maybe if you had it like ONCE and with a 1/10 girl out of desperation.

This is me and how I lost my wizardry and it only made me more depressed and anxious than before.
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>>28161133
>you think sex solves anything

sex doesn't solve anything.
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>>28165351
You obviously don't know what it's like to be a virgin in your late 20s. I bet you were fucking when you were 15 you fucking normie.
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>>28161222
But i actually deal with it senpai.
All the normalfags, are pretending for attention
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>>28165640
If that's your main concern, why haven't you gone to a hooker?
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>>28161133
>How can anyone who has had sex also have anxiety or depression?
because the sex happened before i became disabled.
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>>28165640
I was a virgin until 24
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>>28165640

Yes anon, I saw the girl I have a crush on make out and go home with some guy this weekend while out, but it's all good because I had sex with this one girl 6 years ago.

That's how it works.
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>>28165733
He wants a relationship not random, and paid for sex fuck sakes
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>>28165804
And will have a much easier time getting into one once he has some experience about sex and women.
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>>28161553
that exactly when rape kicks in. when the time when you are so empty inside that you think you just need more sex to fill the deep cavity inside you except it does not.
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>>28163305
this desu, there's always a cause to this shit
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Istill have depression and anxiety but have sex with gf most days.

If I didn't have a gf I'd feel shitty about not having sex though, I went went two years without it when I returned from the Iraq war, that was miserable.
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>>28161133
>>28161133
I've had sex and I also have the others, sex is really overrated. Its over in a second and aside from the temporary emotional attachment doesn't feel any better then fapping. I still feel like a virgin on the inside.
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>>28161133
>highest compliment
Wow I'm not so repulsive girls don't mind using me to cum
>purpose on earth
If fucking is the end all of existence then anyone who has had sex should be depressed
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>>28161133
Because having sex doesn't solve any actual problem, and it might bring more.
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someone having sex with you is absolutely not the highest compliment and not your purpose on earth
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>>28162030
>death of a family member
grief is not depression
>money issues
if you dont have any money you dont get laid
>future worries
what does that even mean
>>28162030
>Also sex won't make it easier for you to talk to strangers etc. especially when you have exclusively have sex with trusted person, like your gf or wife.
since you have a gf/wife you dont need it to be better, really
>You just don't have that level of trust to random people.
apparently you did
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>>28166256
>Because having sex doesn't solve any actual problem
>what is validation
>what is sexual experience
>what is intimacy
>caring about human immunodeficiency virus when all you want is to die anyway
>implying sex means not using proper protection
>implying that even if it doesnt solve anything it wont get you halfway there anyway

7/10, made me reply
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>>28167788

>if you dont have any money you dont get laid

lmao

All poor people do is fuck because it's free
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>>28167910
>all niggers do
ftfy
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>>28167902
Hi virgin.
Having sex changes nothing. I'm no more or less of a suicidal NEET shutin for having a gf for a brief while in my senior year of HS.
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>>28167934

You didn't fix it. White college kids on budgets, white trailer trash, etc fuck non-stop
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>>28167958
>you dont agree with me so you must be a virgin
typical normie response
>I'm no more or less of a suicidal NEET shutin for having a gf for a brief while in my senior year of HS.
but back then it made you feel better, dont act all high and mighty because you still decided to fuck up your life.

>>28167986
>White college kids on budgets
i dont think r9k is getting laid that much but i can agree on the trailer trash.
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>tfw feel depressed as fuck a lot of the time
>tfw literally never brought it up IRL and still make the effort to smile at people and appear happy

Most people are just attention seeking pieces of shit who want the pity
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>>28163137
this is fucking bullshit. Its like when i read post on /adv/ "guys my life is a mess"
and then the next post is
"im currently in collage"

wtf i was so fucked up during highschool grades were the last thing i had the concentration to tackle so now i can never go through collage. Im a KV with no marketable skills a social anxiety and this fucker thinks his life is a mess?
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Most people (like myself) are virgins BECAUSE of other neuroses and brain problems. I can barely stand being around women when I am horny; I don't even want to imagine the hell of how I'd feel after I finished.

Even with porn, I close all my tabs right away and start up a game or something. Just thinking about being around a girl for HOURS after I've sated this urges makes my feet tingle and feel panicked.

I'd rather fall in love and have support before sexual intimacy. Hugging, kissing, and cuddling seem way nicer than sex. I can always edge for a half hour while on speed and sate my primal urges wrll, but there's no equivalent for reliecing the feeling of worthless and cold at my core
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>>28163355
extinction isn't a moral issue and none of us owe people you don't exist yet anything.
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>>28161133
Because the human brain is never satisfied for long (because that would be evolutionary retarded) and everyone eventually goes back to their base level mood regardless of the one billion dollars they won or that 10/10 girl they porked. Obviously lacking basic shit like intimacy and peer acceptance will make you feel unnaturally bad though (as in, worse than what you would feel living a normal life).
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>>28161205
Actually a study showed that an orgasm from sex was about 4 times stronger than one from masturbation.
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finding a mate and or having sex does not cure anxiety or depression. you dumbasses who get all bent out of shape because you don't have a gf will realize this once you're in a relationship.
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>>28167910
how do you get laid with no money, specifically neet?
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>>28166045
I've been deployed to Afghanistan three times and still haven't had a single gf.

Then they wonder why veterans kill themselves so much.
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>>28161133
Because sex isn't everything, even relationships aren't everything.

Sex and relationships don't make you happy, you have to learn how to make yourself happy by being you.
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>>28161133
because its not actually love.

You will never love yourself and no one will ever love you.
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>>28161133
Mark my words, about 80 percent of you asking that question are HHKVs and think that's why you're depressed are actually depressed and that's why you're HHKV. It's a negative feedback loop of course but trust me, you have an underlying problem, most likely chemical or developmental in nature.
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>>28161133

I've had sex, and today at the age of 24 I got my results that tell me I have been diagnosed with the autisms.
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>>28161133

because life is not exclusively about sex and sex itself is fun, but overrated
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jesus fuck you're stupid OP

sex doesn't just magically make your life better, in fact it can sometimes make it worse
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>>28161133
I suffer from anxiety, i fuck hookers but i have to get a bit drunk first.
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>>28161133
Sex is a big deal if you arent getting it
once you're fucking on a regular or even semi regular basis it seems like nothing

Moral of the story, lose those v plates
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>>28161133
Sex is overrated as hell. Quit deluding yourself. Put a wet sponge in a glove and rub it on your dick. Same damn thing.
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>>28163305
How do you explain that this behavior can be carried on genetically?

My Great Grandfather dealt with anxiety/depression, my Grandmother dealt with anxiety/depression, my Father dealt with anxiety/depression and I've been dealing with anxiety/depression since I was a kid.

Explain me that. Just because the monoamine theory hadn't been substantiated doesn't mean that there is not some measurable difference in people who have depression over those who do not. The brain is complex and we're still learning things about it operates. We may not know the true root cause of depression for quite a long time but that doesn't mean there aren't biological factors that predisposes one to depressive behavior or relapsing into depressive behaviors.
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>>28161205
fuck off, to people who haven't had it and most likely will never have it it is a big deal
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>>28162996
>dude lol just get laid bro!
Oh wow, thanks for that wonderful tip. You should be a psychiatrist.
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Because sometimes it's not what you wanted.
She's laying there next to you and you know she doesn't care about you, this is just another hookup for her. Yeah you might talk for a little while after that but there's no real connection there. And after a while of this same incident occurring over and over and over you start to fold in on yourself. Do women only seek to use me? Are women really all whores? Am I doing something wrong?
Sometimes it's good and things work out for a little while. But the lack of longevity bears down on you. And at a certain point you don't even want to try anymore.
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>have qtpi chubby gf
>huge weeb, loved singing
>really good at first, my first gf
>one night she tells me she wants to love me forever
>over the moon with joy
>Has sex with we often, but not enough for my tastes
>this becomes a huge issue for us
>she ends up breaking up with me, tells me I'm a selfish fuck
>stops talking to me cold turkey

I talked with her like a year later and apparently she ended up fucking this crackhead really roughly like a month after breaking up with me. I really don't understand what goes through girls' heads.
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You people do realize that sex is not the epitome of life, right?
It's not the one thing we're assigned to do in life. By that logic, we have to kill ourselves after sex.
You let all these stories and statistics get to you. If you just ignore sex and put it at the low end of your list of needs, you'll be a lot happier.

>diseases
>risking pregnancy
>freak her out if you wanna get freaky
>gotta do a bunch of faggot foreplay beforehand
>she can accuse rape if you didn't satisfy her enough
>she could show up 9 months later with your kid
Why the fuck would you EVER have sex if you weren't immediately wanting to have a family? Buy a goddamn onahole if you're that desperate. Fifty bucks for a good toy is better than the hundreds of dollars you'll spend just trying to impress Stacy at the bar, and that's not even a guaranteed lay.
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>>28169881
It's not only sex bro, it's the intimacy and love that comes from having sex in a committed relationship.
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>>28169917
So you want "dat warm tingwy feewing in your widdle gut" when you shoot your load in her?
What a fucking faggot.
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>>28161133
Very, very hard to explain to someone who hasn't experienced it themselves.

>>28161205
>You get the exact same result when jacking off only you don't have to stick around afterwards

This, so much this.

As hard as this will be to carry over to you virgins here, I'll try.

Imagine you spend the first 30 years of your life a virgin. Most of you aren't there yet, so you can appreciate when I say it's fucking bad. Fucking horrendously bad. Nobody wants you, nobody ever will, you have zero self esteem and no desire to live. You know the drill, only worse, because this was in my 30's. Years ahead of what you've yet seen to date.

Then suddenly, out of the blue, you get laid. You do you very best, the girl just lies there and doesn't do jack shit. You can't get it up, she doesn't cum no matter what you do, and she's been openly disgusted at you since you started at it while you're still sweating like a motherfucker for literally putting 30 years of anxiety and stress and pain into a fucking legendary, monumental effort to be the best you can be FOR ONCE when you have the chance. And there she is, evaluating you, judging you, comparing you to her previous memories, and finding you utterly lacking.. while putting in zero effort of her own.

Now, in order to save text space, rinse repeat that same issue there in the following 2 years with 3 more women. While your performance gets better, it's still the same: You do all the work, they do nothing, and nothing you do is enough. You are shamed, pitied and looked down on unlike fucking anything you could have imagined in your virgin years when the only person you were responsible to was yourself.

Now many years after that, I can conclude that I needed that experience. I needed to see how the grass isn't one fucking bit greener on the other side of the fence. It's fucking brown and rotten as shit. I would MUCH rather jerk off, than ever go through that shit again.
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>>28168075
>collage
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>>28169997
>...cont
So the end result? You thought sex was going to change everything for the better. You thought that was the top of the hill and once you get there, it's all easy after it.

What you really see when you actually get to the top of that hill, is a fucking impassable mountain of nothing but shit and slave labor camp beyond it.

The sex as you imagine it involves love, respect, the idea that someone actually accepts you as you are. You have no idea yet, how mundane, how utterly meaningless sex is to people, and how fucking disgusted and repulsed they can be with you even if they do end up having sex with you. Any magic, any love or intimacy you imagined would be there, may not be there at all.

Instead this sex, this hope beyond hopes you had, the only thing any virgin would ever want... it ends up being spoiled, crushed, rotten and corrupted. And your eyes open up to understand that your very last hope of sex, of making actual love, was nothing but stinking pile of depressing, gut-wrenching, soul destroying shit of a lie... wrapped up in what seemed to be a nice package from a distance.

I'm sorry to have to tell you this. But this, is how it turned out for me.
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>>28169997
>Nobody wants you, nobody ever will, you have zero self esteem and no desire to live
>people honestly think this way because they haven't put their meat in someone else's meat
God, that's beyond pathetic.
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>>28169997
>>28170099

Maybe you're just really really bad at sex? Most people I know in their 20's are having a great time with it.
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>>28170198
Oh I don't doubt that. Evidence speaks for itself. Only how the fuck are you even supposed to be any good, when you get your first chance at 30, while the average person has had literally hundreds to thousands of times more practice by that point.

And that's my entire point. Sex, it turns out, is a very selfish act in self satisfaction. It's not loving, it's not caring, it's not about an emotional connection. Whether it's because of your height, your looks, or the number on your bank account, women aren't very understanding of men who are weak or lacking in any area of life, really.

These people here fool themselves into thinking that when they finally get laid it's going to be something magical. I'm trying to warn them that there's a very real chance their chances came and went ages ago, and they don't yet even know it.

That chasing after sex they're only flirting with an even worse disaster.
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Kek, sex is literally no big deal, it's nowhere near the highest compliment or whatever, it's something most people have been doing since the very dawn of humanity. You only treat sex as something special because you don't have it, the people that do get to focus on worrying about other shit and that's where anxiety or depression could stem from.

Not that they aren't just modern world meme disorders.
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>>28161133
Most people who actually have sex don't hold it as high on a pedestal as someone like you, someone who has never gotten their dick wet, does.

Once you finally do it, you realize how hollow you feel that something you were certain would fix your life and the way you feel, didn't. And you'll be as dead inside as you were before.
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>>28161150
kill yourself you fucking bastard.
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>>28161133
It's quite easy to have anxiety and depression even while actively having sex with someone. Constantly worried about being cheated on. The constant feeling of insecurity that your girlfriend prefers a different body type over your own, or that your dick is too small, or that you're too ugly. The worry that she's faking orgasms, or doesn't enjoy it, or that she fantasizes about other people, especially people she sees commonly, especially people she's been with in the past. Being in a romantic and sexual relationship with someone actually throws open way more doors for anxiety, depression, and insecurity than being single.

I'm not saying being a wizard is the way to go, I'm very relieved that I've gotten all that behind me, and that I can say I've had a girlfriend, I've had sex, and I'm not totally inexperienced if I have to talk to someone about it. It's very relieving.

My advice to virgins is to have sex if you can, just to get it behind you. Then if you're incel from that point on you will at least have done it once.
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>>28170295

Losing it at 30 sucks, but its not like your dick is dying man. You still have years of fucking left in you.
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>>28170431

I have pretty much everything else I could want in life right now besides a gf or a decent looking girl I could fuck. I'm not saying it would magically make my life better, but it would zap a lot of my depression and low self esteem away.
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>>28170523
>Being in a romantic and sexual relationship with someone actually throws open way more doors for anxiety, depression, and insecurity than being single.

This can't be stressed enough. You think you have anxiety while single? Wait till you have anxiety about someone you actually care about, oh boy.
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>>28170566
No, you're delusional and it won't. It zaps your cum away, that's about it. Not to mention that you have no idea what you're doing. It's not going to be magical, or fun. It won't be exciting or pleasing. You'll spend the whole time with a hard on being so anxious that you'll either cum too soon, or never cum.

You ain't even begun to see shit yet m8. You have literally no idea what you're in for. If you can actually get laid, you'll understand what I mean.
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>Everyone who says sex isn't important has already had sex
>People who say money isn't important are all well off
Coincidence?
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>>28169997
See, the difference is that after you've had sex you can go back to fapping if you don't feel it's worth the effort.
You can't "just have sex" if you think masturbating isn't enough for you.
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>>28165346
What animu is this?
This is an original comment, I swear
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>>28169997
I lost my virginity at 24. Even the first time I fucked a girl she said it was great. You just pound hard and that's usually enough. Do you have a small dick anon?
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>>28169997
You sound lucky if you fucked 4 girls

I lost my virginity at 32, and that one time I had sex was out of pure desperation with a girl who smelled like shit and had rotting teeth

It was so disgusting and made me want to die, but I still got it up somehow though so idk. But I would kill to just have sex with a normal girl. Surely one of those 4 you fucked were normal people.
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>>28169997
Maybe git gud? Everyone's first time is awkward but it should take much longer than that to get it down.
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>>28170892
zettai bouei leviathan

bretty gud t b h
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>>28171013
Holy fuck non virgins GET OUT
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>>28171080
Thanks senpai

Yet another original comment by me, move along robot
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>>28161133
When I (rarely) have sex, it gives me great mood and good feels for like 2 maybe 3 weeks... Not for entire life. You are right to some point - it is an achievement I guess, but it is not like "now I can finally die in peace. I'v done it". In a fact you know exactly what are you missing in your life after and that makes you sad.
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>>28161133
People find things to complain about. If you haven't had sex, you complain about that. If you had, you complain about how it wasn't satisfying. If it was, you complain about how there wasn't as much of it as you'd like. And so on upwards in a never ending ladder of whinging.

It brings me comfort to know that I'd still be bitching just as much even if I were a happay and accomplished human being.
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>>28161133
if having sex cures your depression, you weren't really depressed to begin with
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>>28165312
so? at least it's a real penis and not some piece of jerky
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>>28161133
why is r9k so obsessed with sex? When you aren't whining about how unfair life is you or hating niggers this is like 90% of the board content
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