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will you join the army and be prepared to potentially die in the defense of your nation?

honest answer
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>>28137852
Not unless I get drafted.
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Obviously not you fucking retard. Nationalism died 50 years ago.
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>>28137852

Our army consist of maybe 40-50 T-54 and 6 helicopters from USA which were so old and shitty that us buying them was basivly getting rid of them
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I would not.
First of all, since I am a soon to be teacher i would be be needed to teach our younglings.
Secondly, of what use is a won war when I am dead.

On the other hand i'd really love to rek some muslims.
Maybe I'd be a sniper.
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>>28137852
Nope, because I wouldn't join infantry.
Combat MOS's are for dummies who want bad knees.
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not unless we're being invaded
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I'm pretty sure I'm too old to join
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>>28137852
see
>>28137863
>>28137866


The military is only useful as a way to get some core skills; not actually use them to defend a long piece of dirt controlled by bankers and oligarchs.

Also

>implying America will engage in a serious war that requires me to be drafted any time soon

By the time that's even potentially possible, I'd be too old to be drafted anyway.
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>>28137887
where are u from??
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>>28137852
i dont have a choice in my country. I've also done my 2 years of compulsary military training. To be honest I'll probably be not entirely willing but I'll be ready when it comes. It'll be over fast, either way
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>>28137852
I'm not becoming a gimp for some jew overlord
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>>28137852
I rather be glorified vanished in war than comteplating suicide
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>>28137852
No. Nationalism is for insects.
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>>28137852
>>28137904
Don't mean to samefag, but why the fuck does everyone automatically assume that joining the military=being on the front lines of combat?
Like 90% are support jobs that aren't in nearly as much danger as infantry or cavalry
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if its serious, you wont have a choice either way. I'm sure most countries have a drafting law.
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>>28137923
4-6 years.
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>>28137852
What, to defend all the left wing faggot views, and all the other people and women that don't give a fuck about me?

Fuck no.
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>>28137852
am I allowed to join the r9k army and die defending it from tripfags?
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>>28137852
I'm a citizen of the planet and have no interest in the minor squabbles for land and profit, so nah.

If I got drafted, I'd ditch somewhere nice like hawaii.
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Fuck no. Even when the ayyy lmaos come and everyone needs to band together to survive XD i'll be sitting in my room. If worse comes to worse I'll cut off my toes.
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>>28137977

Pfthahahahaha.

Kay brah. Wish I knew you in real life so I could bet actual money on this estimate and giggle at you when four years passed, only to laugh in your fucking face when we hit six. The US will not have a serious war anytime soon. I bet you thought the world was going to end in 2012, too.
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>>28137852
>will you join the army and be prepared to potentially die in the defense of your nation?
I am ready and eager to die at any time for any reason, as any true robot should be. If an ongoing war and the associated nationalism would let me fool myself into doing what my blasted animal self-preservation keeps me from, I will gladly accept.

>>28137863
>>28137866
>>28137895
>>28137904
>>28137908
>>28137923
>>28137942
>>28137955
>>28137980
>>28137981
>>28138005
normies, all of you
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Hopefully I would get murdered right away or get the opportunity for some cool war crimes
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I'm a schizo I can't go to war
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>>28138024
0/10 poor attempt, see me after class
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I'm 50/50. Part of me would want to fight but part of me agrees with >>28137980
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>>28138012
Funny, it could happen. The banking system could collapse.
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>>28138024
bait detected.
try harder
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>>28138051

Yeah, just like it could've collapsed back in 2008, amirite?

Who would America even war with? Russia? Not even a real threat, and only jokers will pretend otherwise. China? They have everything to lose by entering a war with their best customer. Poop Korea? Huehuehuehue.

I would seriously bet everything I own against everything you own that there will no banking collapse or serious conflict for the US. Of course, you'd worm your way out of it and claim something like stationing troops at the Russian border counts as a major conflict that threatened the US homeland, I'm sure.

I would love to be wrong, as it would be extremely exciting and I have little to lose, but there's only much suspension of disbelief I can foster in my daily life.
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Would you fly drones in a comfy room for your country?
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Depends against who, if it's against muslims then yes, if not I'm outa there, I hate my country.
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>>28138012
The world didn't end for you in 2012?
Mine changed so much that it was the end of an era. Just seems like a different world since then. Old world ended.
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>>28137852
I'd carry nothing but my country's flag into battle if it needed me to.
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>>28138133

Everything changed for me in 2012, actually, but it was the result of a family member leaving (to join the military actually).

The 2009-2011 arc is literally the only period in my entire life that I would say I was legitimately happy. Everything seemed to be going well right around that time. it's a subset of the College Saga, which was very disappointing, because I'm still unemployed and I didn't even get any pussy.

Then, after 2012 short saga (I like to consider it the Anticipation and Alcohol saga), the 2013 saga began, which has yet to conclude, and has been nothing but one horrible arc after another. Currently on the worst arc, but hoping it'll end soon so I can start a new hopeful saga.
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seems like an easy way to die so why the fuck not i guess
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>>28138179
thats not easy you retard, the training is intense.
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>>28138248
Brother is in the army, said Army basic was cake, and they let fatties in.
Also bent testing qualifications to get people through
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>>28138248
It's hard not to smirk when people say they want to go 18x or whatever but they totally fucking hate PT.
I almost sort of like PT to the point I do it a lot but have trouble doing it from physical wear to meet the regular standard let alone the high speed stuff. Like it's do-able, but I don't know how some of those guys do it. Just baka when people think it's easy.
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>>28137852
No, depending on who we fight I'd rather join the enemy or just kill myself. Fuck this genocidal anti-white regime. I will never defend it.
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>>28137852
No, I oppose violence and all governments.
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>>28139435
only based swede ive ever met, what happened to you guys seriously I used to want to visit your country when I was little lol
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>>28139539
It feels like 99% of our people are braindamaged zombies that can't think on their own. It's fucking hopeless and even a very liberal and center party like Sverigedemokraterna with Jimmie Akesson are losing votes in the latest polls just because they are a little bit anti immigration. There is no point visiting Sweden. If you want to visit a Scandinavian country then go for Norway, but do it soon because they are going down the same path as us and will soon be just as shitty.
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>>28139581
What about Finland/Denmark? I know that Denmark started to BTFO the refugees and were pissing off all pro-refugee Germans, can I still get my authentic Scandinavian holiday experience from them or are they cucked too?
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>>28139606
>What about Finland/Denmark?
They are still better but I don't think there is any country in western Europe that will remain white in the long run, and it seems like the white population is fine with being replaced so there is no real resistance against it.

>can I still get my authentic Scandinavian holiday experience from them
Yes, but don't wait too long. They are much better than Sweden but there is no telling how long they are gonna stay that way.
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Too late, I already joined the Navy.
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>>28137852
My country is a shithole, full of people that only want to fuck you up, take your money and exploit you in some way.

I would rather join whoever attacks my country and enjoy mowing down those fucks.
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totally.
I've toyed with the idea of joining up as it is. Looks like a pretty comfy existence to me.
Having a good reason to jump in would really motivate me.
Another 9/11 style attack and reaction would be enough.
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There's conscription in my country so I'd go anyway.
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>>28138024
Pentagon shill pls go
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>>28137852
What is going through this man's head
He's in some 3rd world hell hole, sitting on a cheap plastic chair
Both of his legs are gone, adrenaline pumping through his veins
His face covered in dirt and blood; his and that of his friends
And for what?
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>>28140073
>And for what?
Israel
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>>28140073
I bet he got a good dose of morphine at least. Dude is high af, no way you could sit like that and not scream in anguish
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>>28139787
>military
>comfy

it's retards like you who willingly die for rich kikes and their political puppets

>>28140073
pretty sure it's fake
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>>28137852
I would take the next plane home and enlist straight away.
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Yes, the notion that some armed filth could reach my parent's house makes me rage. However if my country declared war and were to invade I'd dodge the draft or flee to another country. I won't take what belongs to someone else, but I sure as hell won't let someone take what's mine.
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>>28140073
HE GOT HIS SHINS BLOWN OFF IN VIETNAM
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No morphine needed friend
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>>28137852
I just saw saving private Ryan first time 2 hours ago
No.
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>implying I would ever lift a finger for my shithole of a country

Normalfags can go die if they want, but the second I get drafted they'll have to lock me up and feed me because I'll just refuse to serve
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>>28137852
Depends on the enemy. Muh risk vs. benefits.

>Russia
Yep.
>China
Hell yes.
>North Korea
You're Goddamn right.
>Iran
Sure why not...
>Israel
If only.
>Iraq/Afghanistan
No, fucking nuke them already.

Oh wait, you said army...

>Russia
Probably not. If they're invading, then of course.
>China
Maybe. If they're invading, yeah.
>North Korea
Sure.
>Iran
Nah.
>Israel
Nope.
>Iraq/Afghanistan
Fuck that, glass those shitholes.
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>>28140073
It's fake just obtw.
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>>28140307
Err. Well, fake-ish. The guy really is a double amputee. But the damage isn't fresh, it's part of a training exercise.
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>>28137852

Fortunately you can't join the army if you're a sperg in this country. To be honest I wouldn't give my country the steam from my piss.
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>>28137852
If I found the cause compelling and got the opportunity to put bullets into other people you bet your ass. I would love to swept up into something I can actually believe it, to find some meaning in this shallow life. My nation wouldn't even have to be attacked, a simple widespread revolution - whether fascist or communist - would be enough for me to raise a gun, a machete or a grenade.

But that'll never happen. So I'm just going to keep dragging as much pleasure from the life I've got - I earn six-figures, I've got a gf and I've traveled the world. That'll do.
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>>28137852
If there's a massive surge in deployments for some reason like right after 9/11, maybe.

But if there was an active invasion on American soil (lmao) then without a question yes.
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>>28137852
When I see trumps faggot sons there then I'll be there too
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>>28137852
My country barely have any weapons and R&D is a joke. What the fuck would I do in a war in the 21st century? Get killed by the enemy's drone? Fuck that. When shit hits the fan you'll find me NEETing out in my uncle's farm deep in the countryside.
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>>28137852
Why is he smoking doesn't he know it's unhealthy?
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>>28141132
He has no fucking legs, you think he cares one iota about his lungs?
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Yes I would love to defend the SJW's and feminists and niggers.
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>>28137852
>will you join the army and be prepared to potentially die in the defense of your nation?

no

being selfish as fuck is the best way to live, soldiers are retarded cucks.

hope that guy in your pic is happy with himself, contributed nothing and lost his legs when he could be at home playing video games lmfao
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>>28137852
They won't take me because of my mental issues
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Yeah I'd try to get into the airborne or some shit, kill me some dune coons or Russians or something
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>>28137852
I don't support my country, so no. I'll move to Canada if there's a draft probably
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>>28138043
>>28138085
>>28140002
he's right though you stupid faggots, if you're a robot, why would you not want a way that ensures you die without as much of the mental preparation required for suicide?
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I'll claim bipolar, schizophrenia, and clinical depression.

Easy out, and then I get to watch chads who get drafted get BTFO on Fox News while I shovel down my honey nut cheerios
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I tried joining the army but they said i'm not eligible because i wear glasses, so no, even if we are invaded i won't join it now

Fuck em
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>will you join the army and be prepared to potentially die in the defense of your nation?
>defense
Why must we always be on defense? Lets take over the whole world. I would join the army if we were invading counties to kick ass and properly control things.
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I'm in the naval reserves, actually. It's pretty sweet. I'm canadian, though
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Only if the mainland were invaded. Our sphere of influence is Beat of Revelations-tier, at this point. So because Russia wants a small peninsula full of Russian-speaking ethnic Russians, or that the president of Syria would win in a free election against sectarian militia groups we funded, or that Persians now have nuclear energy, after giving us literally everything we asked for and having no capability of constructing a warhead...is a really naive and childish way to look at the world. I won't fight for any of that. I'd only fight to maintain the sovereignty of the U.S. mainland, not some corrupt empire of vampiric monetary systems and client kingdoms.
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>>28142076
>*Beast
>So, whining because Russia wants
typos.
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>>28141818
Because it helps normies
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>>28138158
You can be like a banner barer in Warhammmer. Metal as fuck morale booster.
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>>28142076
Fun fact, Obama was basically the only person who stopped us from going full blown World Police during these past few years. Though you seem smart, you probably already new that.

Fucking Hillary will be president next year, and she's one of the people who wanted us to, so we're probably fucked.
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>>28137852
>dying for a country that shits all over you
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>>28142539
Everyone says that shit on the left and right nowadays. Meanwhile the soldier does his duty regardless, he has a higher sense of things, he sees past the noise and recognizes his inner sense of duty.
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>>28142539
Lies! Corporate profits are our profits. Greatest country ever! Killing Muslims definitely doesn't flood white countries with millions more than the ones we killed. I'm so tough and you're not. USAUSAUSA!!!
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Jokes on you, I'll be hanging out at base as a medical officer (pharmacist).

0% chance of frontline action!
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>>28142461
>Fucking Hillary will be president next year, and she's one of the people who wanted us to, so we're probably fucked.

No. There is another.
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>>28137852
Of course. I'd rather die doing a noble cause than crying and blowing my head off in my room.
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>>28137852

What is there to fight for? Lets say someone came and invaded this country, so fucking what? Die for a piece of land that I dont even own?
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>>28142562
>Meanwhile the soldier does his duty regardless, he has a higher sense of things, he sees past the noise and recognizes his inner sense of duty.

Fighting and dying for a ruling class who actively despise you and are working to destroy you is stupid not noble.

Both left and right hate the working class white men who make up the majority of the armed services. They are actively seeking population replacement and the destruction of white working class families.

Every soldier is a traitor to his own people.
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>>28137852
They can do it themselves. There's no way I 'm going to defend a culture that I hate.
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Well, I'm a man, so I guess I have to.
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>>28137852
I'm in a country with what's basically an involuntary militia. If I don't join and die, they'll sentence me to death in court martial anyway.

But if it was up to me, no fucking way in hell. Any wars around here wouldn't be started by me or the people. It would be a war by the people in charge, paid in blood by the people who had nothing to do with it. While the people in charge would just stay nice and comfy in their office seats. I want no part of that. If it was up to me, I'd grab my friends and family and just move the fuck out. I could easily make my life elsewhere.

Patriotism in general is a disease no different from zealous religions, cults, nationalism or other such powerful mind control devices. They are tools to subjugate people and lure them into giving their lives for matters that don't even concern them directly.
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>>28142624
>a democratically elected government isn't trading oil on U.S. dollars
>let's kill 1/10 of the population and send the remaining half to white European countries
>all for only 2 trillion dollars of the public's money

I mean, if you really want to be a contrarian, you could argue for the wasting of normie tax dollars but the "lol dead Muslims" tough guy is doing more to ruin our countries than some "refugees welcome" idiot ever thought about doing, only the former is too stupid to realize it.
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>>28137955
>Nationalism is for insects.

here, for you.
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I'd rather die with honor than without but my country deemed me not fit to serve because knee injurys/schizophrenia
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So I get to die while chad pumps and dumps stacies and whores?
No thanks. War is their problem not mine.
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>>28137852
>when the American foreign policy kicks in
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>tfw on so much medication the United States military sees me joining the military as too much of a Section 8 liability to even talk to me
>tfw recruiters don't even call me and know me in my city to avoid me

I just wanted to be a pacifist helicopter pilot. I even have my license.
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>>28142732
Then they impugned your honor. Kill them and die fighting. There would be more honor in that than an any service you could have done to further their corruption and influence.
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>>28137852
Already been in the Marine Corps for 3 years. I was almost hoping to die when I joined, but now I don't know.
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>>28142562
If a soldier did his duty regardless and did see past the noise, he would recognize he's just a lowly pawn -- readily sacrificed to the highest bidder. Do you honestly believe that any war of aggression in history has been fought for anything other than profiting a king, a pope, or a president?
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>>28142429
Unfortunately most of us would be gaurdsmen instead of marines.

We would be dead in 30mins
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>>28137852
Funny story. My ID and in double zero and according to my country's law that means those dubs Ave me from being drafted. I personally hope for a war so I can pick the job and wife I want
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>>28142845
>no major wars
>no famines
>no plagues
>Oh no, there's a Labor Shortage
>looks like we need to import then million young men to increase crime, competition for jobs and wives
Fuck the governments. The only system actually beholden to the people is in Switzerland. Beyond that, they're inherently against you, and for themselves, as a separate class and entity.
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>>28142897
That's good for me.
Keep importing terrorists, eventually everyone will go to war with Isis.
Go isos go, kill all the normies. Kill my neighborg so I can fuck his hot wife
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>>28142795
here's your (you)
originaal
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>dedicating my life to protecting normies and Chad

If you are a militaryfag you are literally a cuck
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>>28137852
not like I care about shithole I live in
also rape statistics
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>>28137852
>die for americas political ideals
haha, pass.
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>fighting for a country that allows gay marriage

nty desu senpai
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Nationalism was invented so that idiots would fight for the rulers for free.
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>>28137852
Not a chance in hell.
Worst.comes and we have to join, ill be a navy faggot.
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>>28142562

>he has a higher sense of things, he sees past the noise and recognizes his inner sense of duty.

And where do these qualities come from?
They have to be grown and cultivated somehow. People like that can only emerge in a society run by a government that gives a shit. The government has to actively work to make sure people grow up with that attitude.

Loyalty and sense of duty has to be fostered and ingrained for generations for a specific purpose; it's not something you can just whip up in yourself out of thin air because someone said it's the "right" thing to do.

Otherwise it's just empty words and propaganda.
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>>28137852
My life is of no value anyway and I'm already enlisted

So yeah
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>>28137852
It depends who the war's against and what's at stake.

I'm not going to die in some dick waving contest between my country and Russia, and while I wouldn't have any qualms killing isis, I'm not going to do it if the only thing at stake is the liberty of some uneducated mudslimes who have a favorable opinion of the islamic state anyways
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>>28137852
if I get drafted, I won't draft dodge. there's no way I'd volunteer for military service though. I'd rather become a police officer.
>>28137866
nationalism is still a major factor unless you are in favor of some kind of forced globalization bullshit
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>Work in physics
>get to be a part of Manhattan project 2.0
Could be cool and or morally confounding
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>>28137852


I love my nation more than anything but I would not go to war for it. Well I would bunt not really. Allow me to explain.

I would say that 80% of all wars do not benefit me and/or the people. Most wars are caused by faggy rulers and upper class faggots who use the good people as personal cannon fodder. Most wars in the past have not benifited me or my country.


I will only fight in a war if there is a true threat to my people. I refuse to fight because some fucking Jew wants more land or oil, we don't need to kill our people just to fuel some ritch faggots obsession with material possessions.
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>>28137852
nope I'm not helping this shit country.
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never mate, i'd rather go to prison than go to war.
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>>28137852
of course not.
this country should have been eradicated in 1920
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manlet+short sight so i'm no useful in war. but if given the chance id probably join up just to escape this nihil I call life.
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>>28137852
No, we're run by kikes and solely serve cucks and shitskins. I'd let the regime change come to spite the occupation, then sort the situation out later through insurgency.
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>>28137852
That picture is fake silly boy
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>>28137852
>defense of your nation

That's what you sheeple believe, to this day, that any of the wars we have been in, including Vietnam had anything to do with our nation being threatened.
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I'll be joining the British Army/Royal Air Force depending on the result of the EU referendum.

I'd gladly lay down my life for Great Britain, encourage nationalism among the ranks, kill some ragheads. I just don't want to be a part of an "EU Army" which seems to be slowly becoming a reality...
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>>28137852
No. If I'd get drafted I'd flee (Germany).
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war fought on german soil (defensive): yes
otherwise: no
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>>28137852
I'll be joining the military because I'm not good enough to excel in the private sector as I am now, I'm not proud of that but it's about survival for me at this point.
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>>28144123
Spoken like a true self hating german cuck
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>>28144168
who the fuck would fight to defend a country that literally has abandoned you and left you out to die?
If a draft was comming in germany you know that its gonna be used to utilize enough forces to subdue the german people rising up against merkels disgusting policies and stop people from running those disgusting "refugees" out of the country...
no thanks
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>>28137852
Nah they deserve it whatever the fuck it happens, il just move in the middle of the siberian tundra and live a few months if im lucky
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>>28139759
Which country do you live in my robobro
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>>28144328
shitty balkan country
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>>28137852
I'm already here
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>>28137852
>implying I'm physically fit for combat

get out normie
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>>28144375
Oh I though people in Balkans were very nationalist
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>>28144456
it's mostly true since the countries here are filled with mostly sub 80 iq white niggers that have nationalism hammered into them by their parents and institutions, however if you have half a brain you quickly realize that being nationalistic here is ridiculous because people here are cut throat and don't give a single shit about each other
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>>28137852
>MY ARBITRARY AREA OF LAND AND CULTURE IS WORTH DYING FOR, EVEN IF THERE'S NOT A CREDIBLE THREAT AGAINST IT

There are actually people in this thread who believe this. If we're ever going to move forward as a species, we really should do away with infighting.
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>>28143445
Actually, you're worth about $400,000 if you die.
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>>28142718
>democratically elected
Y-you're not talking about Saddam, are you?
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>>28137852
Hell yeah nigger

remove kebab
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My country is currently fighting two wars (one against the Taliban, the other against the BLA) but I will not join the army because a) I am lazy as fuck and b)I do not agree with the policies that started the wars.
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>>28137852
no way, I'm not doing for any power hungry rulers and I'm not overly nationalistic so yeah, fuck that shit
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I wouldn't end up in a combat role. Either I'd still be in school for computer science, or I'd be out and likely have work or research experience. I could probably apply for a job in naval intelligence or something.

Even if I was forced to enlist somehow, my ASVAB score would be too high for them to want to make me cannon fodder.
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I don't support most of the wars we've been in and I think it's dumb
That being said I feel people like me were born to die doing this sort of thing, but we're in peace now. I'd join because I don't particularly value my life

Better to live one year as a lion, etc. Seems a helluva lot more interesting than being a wagecuck for 40 years
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>>28137852
My country has consription for all males older than 18 yo. When I was drafted, I was considered unfit for military service because of pour health. So, I guess, the answer is no.
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>>28137852
I would fight to remove kebab. Maybe remove Saudi Arabia, or remove degenerates. Thats about it. Maybe even to help spread the American Empire under emperor Trump.
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Nope. I like having my arms and legs.

I certainly aint dumb enough to run off to sand land and get shot up fighting some cave monkeys that would literally be no threat to anyone had they have not been allowed in in the first place.

The governments make these messes and want the working class to clean it up for them.

Enough is enough.
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>>28145652
> conscription
Fixed.
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The good use for war is genocide. We wouldnt be dealing with terrorist if America wasnt such a puss by being dome sort of international police force. I would rather wipe out the entire poluations of Afghanistan and Iraq and be done with it. Innocents are not exempt.
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>>28137959
This. For every one infantry marine there are seven marines in support roles that make it possible for them to go into combat. Source: my Chad dad was a marine for 20 years.
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>>28145666
Jew off
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>>28137852
lolno
I'll bail out to Canada
If Canada is closed? Mexico, I'll take my chances.
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>>28145724
Chasing kebabs all over the place and checking every hole in Afghan mountains is not an easy task. The Soviet tried it, and failed dramatically. The USA also had the same results in Vietnam when their forced were stopped in the same way ewoks wrecked Galactic Empire's forces on Endor. It is just too costly to do such a thing.
Plus the society would not support it openly. They need a good mask, they want to think of themselves as bringers of justice, democracy and other similar stuff.
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>>28145767
Funny thing is that I am actually Jewish. I do hate muslims and leftist with a passion though.
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Only under the right circumstances. My country being Mexico, the only war possible is a revolution. Under the right leadership I most definitely would fight for it, but I'd never fight for the current government.

Currently living in the US tho. If there was a war and they took in non-green card holders I'd sooner fight for USA than Mexico. Tbh war-time US military is one of my dreams
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>>28145792
Who cares what society thinks. Whats going to happen? Are they going to cry the leader out of office? Besides, there is a thing called nukes that we have a larfe surplus of that can be used to turn some middle eastern shitholes into designated nuclear waste lands. Why bother with the bitch known as democracy when you can have monarchy , pride and power. Survival of the fitist.
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>>28141217
artism
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>>28145833
You're alright. If we ever deciede to conquer mexico, help us fight to gain some territory and I will personally give you US citizenship for free.
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>>28145882
Bruh if the US ever goes to war against Mexico I will fully support the complete surrender of Mexico and the US taking all land.

That's the only way this god forsaken country will ever be great.
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>>28145932
USNA when?
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>>28143198
This

Ori gi nal commenterino
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>>28138086
China is a real threat actually. Their economy is about to collapse, and one of the best ways to preserve national unity and improve the economy during recession is a war. Plus there won't be nearly as much to lose economically once exports collapse. In addition, we're currently fighting a proxy war against Russia in syria and they are acting extremely aggressive towards turkey, with whom we have a mutual defense agreement. We are in the most dangerous geo political situation since probably the early 60s
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>>28137852
Naw fuck it lad. In my country every man that's over 18 y.o. has to join the army, and this fucking sucks.
It's not worth it, if I was about to die I'd better kill myself than let some faggot take my life.
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>>28145943
Soon, hopefully. Provided Trump wins.

As a Mexican I'd 100% vote for Trump. Not because of edgy anti-mexico but because he's the only one who would do anything about the shitfest that is Mexico and either fix it himself or cause/incite/promote a revolution which would only bring good things, seeing how Mexico is currently at its lowest point (and still plunging head-first further down)
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>>28145835
> Why bother with the bitch known as democracy when you can have monarchy , pride and power.
Every monarchy was either overthrown*(like in Russia or France) or became nothing but a symbol(England, Japan, yet in the later case it fails miserably even with this simple task). The only excemption from this rule are... kebabs. What a surprice. Why aren't you praising Allah? Middle East have everything you want: proud monarchy, surviving of the fittest, etc. They do not have tendies, though, and shitposting on 4chan is not a simple task when someone tries to shoot you with a rusty Kalashnikov. But that's not a serious obstacle for an Ubermensch like you, am I right?

* by the same society that would "cry the leader out of office"!

> Besides, there is a thing called nukes that we have a larfe surplus of that can be used to turn some middle eastern shitholes into designated nuclear waste lands
When the Chernobyl disaster happend, the wind and water dragged nuclear waste from northern Ukraine across all of the Europe. Carpet bombing an entire region with nukes would fuck up the whole planet. Basically, it would be equivalent to eating radioactive food every day.
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It'd depend on the nature of the war.
>We're in someone else's country and the enemy isn't some terrifying, global threat like the Axis powers.
Nope.
>They're literally on our door step.
I'm a scrawny fuck, dunno how fast I'd be able to get in shape at that point, but in the army or out of it, a foreign army is not going to occupy my town in my life time. I will either die or shoot until whoever is trying has been dissuaded.
Maybe I should start working out, or doing some running at least.
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>>28146036
> surprise
Fixed.
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>>28146036
I can't comprehend what's written in your post. Can you make a frog meme with it?
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>>28137852
Surely, but not as a private/infantryman. I am phsyically weak and mentally unstable so that would be no benefit for the nation to throw me on the battlefield. I'd be way more useful in an office or a factory.
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>>28137852
easy to declare one or another option now
the answer is:
>it won't be easy and safe to avoid draft and it won't be easy and safe to be a refugee and it won't depend on me
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>>28137852
If it's for companies/big gov/or other profiteering garbage, then No, if it's for the our right to exist as a nation, war against tyrannical/genocidal forces and freedom, then Yes, I'd die for my fellow countrymen.
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>>28137852
no. If you answered yes to this question then it shows that government brainwashing has worked on you. Don't let big brother turn you into hamburger over petty arguments.
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>>28146488
Big Brother is ew. I would rather obey the Resident World Controller.
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>>28137852
>implying I'd die
I'm a motherfuckin dog of war. ARF ARF ARF
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>>28144524
most don't believe it, they just want a legal outlet to kill and rob like this guy >>28140759
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>>28143948
So you're either a nationalist or a globalist? No wiggle room there?
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>>28144515
sounds like the u.s.
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>>28145666
Saudi Arabia sells the U.S. all their oil and lets the U.S. build as many bases in the country as they want.

And they help the U.S. start wars against Islamic countries that don't do those things.
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>>28146776
it's worth it fighting for the US, you can make a great career and the country is objectively the most significant one globally and gives great opportunities for the people born there to live decent lives, unlike our shitholes which exploit you from your birth to your death
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>>28145835
Calm down, tiger.

Terrorists don't even present that much of a statistical threat to you. And most of the people that they do kill are other Muslims in Islamic countries.

The U.S. benefits from protracted conflict, so it wouldn't completely annihilate another country for that reason, among many others.
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>>28145985
China isn't stupid enough to attack the U.S.
Even North Korea and Iran aren't.
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>>28146900
True, but most Americans, including the military, would start killing each other if there was ever a revolution.
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I'm not fighting for American imperialism
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>>28137852

If my country goes war i will go somewhere where is peace on because im not going to die for a bloodmoney and for the ''honor'' of capitalism.

But if i cant get out from my land i will go war and kill every single militant who is lovefull to a elite and shoot their headoff on the field.. mayby fuck their asses if i have time.
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>>28147093
>Duhhhurrrdurddrruudd.
Well, uhh, YEAH. That's kind of the definition of revolution: violence. That's literally the same as saying "but if you kill people then those people are dead".

Who's to say there's going to be any kind of revolution in the US?
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>>28145985
If China wanted a war it would be with Japan for South China Sea oil or one of its weakling neighbors, not the USA.
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>>28147502
This anon speaks truth. The US, among with Russia, is one of their primary markets. It is unwise to start a war with guys who your clients.
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>>28137852
Of course not. If there's a draft I'll just go to prison instead. There's no reason to die for someone else.
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>>28147552
> who are your clients
Fixed.
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>>28137852
Would probaly get drafted, unless my medical history somehow is bad enough to prevent that.
Would then proceed to die a totally meaningless death in a remote part of the battlezone to a armed civilian terrorist.
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>>28147214
Inevitably, there will be.

You can't have a country made up mostly of the people who were too stupid to make it in Europe (and now Mexico), and the descendents of Negro slaves and expect it to last for very long, especially when degenerate liberal ideas like capitalism and democracy are so deeply engrained into society.

Probably not in our lifetimes, but the U.S. wil collapse before the end of the next century if not sooner.
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>>28147502
Attacking Japan would amount to declaring war on the United States.

Japan doesn't even have a military.
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>>28147631
It started to make one, though. They even have a carrier now.
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>>28138248
>the training is intense.
If you can do 1 pullup and can run faster than fatass speed, the army will take you
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>>28147653
It's all with U.S. oversight though.
They don't have the right to declare war.
The U.S. took over their defense after World War II specifically to deter Russian or Chinese aggression in the region.
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>>28137852
>join
>frag officer cause he was a faggot
>die in glorious charge towards sandniggers

Where do I sign?
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>>28147631
>Japan doesn't even have a military.

nigger you are fucking stupid, japan has a big military and can even rival china's army
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>>28137852
yes, even as a volunteer,
not 4 my country, but 4 a terrorist group

come at me feds
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>>28147811
You should stop watching Gate, sempai.
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>>28147811
JSDF shill detected
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>>28137852
Yep. If there is full scale involvement, id do it.
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I would be the first one that leaves the country once the time has come. Fuck this country. It's just luck where your born and I certainly won't die for this shithole.
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>>28138248
Air Force here. No, its really not.
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I'd go and fight if I really thought that there was a major threat to our national security, and significant consequences to our way of life if we didn't win the war

Otherwise no. It would have to be a WW2-esque situation to compel me THAT much to go to war
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>>28140073
Its a double amputee in a photo set but realistically he would be high off his fucking balls on Morphine while he's waiting for MEDIVAC
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>>28137852
I would try, but my vision is fucked mang, wouldn't except me.
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Die in the desert for some lie?What else have I got to do?
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>>28147965
>implying we were under a major threat during WWII
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Nope, people with my mental conditions are not allowed to fight.
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i can'/t i'm crippled and have seizures i'll probably have a seizure while shooting. i will either die or captured
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I'm trying to join the army but i can barely do push ups, i hope they let me in ;_; I'm really weak
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>>28137852
i'd want to sign up but they probably wouldn't let me
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>>28147610


"no"

if you give me a "You", I will explain pretty easily.
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>>28137852
I literally cannot wait untiil the draft all the normalfags are going down with me
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>>28137852
I can join the army for the purpose of defense.
But I'm not getting anywhere further, fuck if I know what our retarded government gets us into, it might just as well tell us to shoot our own people some day.
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>>28147610
>degenerate liberal ideas like capitalism and democracy
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>>28149436
>>28149539
A liberal belief is founded on the idea that people are equal, and inherently good, which they clearly aren't.

It's just been appropriated to refer to Democrats and leftists.
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>>28149671
That doesn't answer the question. How are capitalism and democracy inherently liberal ideas?
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>>28137852
not to defend my nation but for the bloodlust and quick death.
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