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>tfw fell for the trans meme
>tfw didn't help with getting gfs, never figured out how to do makeup right, and didn't make any money camwhoring
>tfw tried to undo the damage and go back to being a man but my penis won't work anymore

Who else /ruined their lives/ here?
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>following advice from the internet
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>>28130266

I just wanted a gf to be desu.
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>become girl to get a gf
>don't get a gf
>try to become a boy again

I wish this were true, but I know it can't be
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>>28130250
Sounds like you're pretty retarded
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Why would becoming a girl help you get a girl? Have you kids gone completely retarded? I am only 29, you kids are all gay and shit, gays were beaten up when I was kid, girls spit on them.

I think you kids forgot girls like guys and guys like girls. Like you forgot nature. That is why you are so confused, calling any dude who acts like a dude a chad.
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>>28130311

http://www.sexchangeregret.com/

It's real, the weird thing is all the people who DON'T regret it afterwards.
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>>28130357
>gays were beaten up when I was kid, girls spit on them.

But that's not very politically correct anon. If Xe is a dolphin-kin you better not discriminate
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>>28130250
Anon. You should have known better.
>>28130357
Thats fucking funny. I'd honestly like to see someone try to hurt me for being a fag. I'd let the girls spit on me..
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>>28130695

>I'd honestly like to see someone try to hurt me for being a fag.

Is it because you get sexually aroused when people hit you?
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>the kikes are literally brainwashing white men into sterilizing themselves (through transsexuality) while encouraging non-whites to be as masculine as possible (through hip-hop)
Can not wait until we hang all the motherfucking scum trying to kill off our race
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>>28130357
I'm 28. The scary thing to me is that I know, if 18 year old me was living in 2016, I might've got the same idea.
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>>28131042

Don't forget they're also importing MILLIONS of savage muslim "refugees" who are mostly young adult males with a penchant for raping white women.

>tfw this is it, this is how it ends
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>>28131064
That is the scariest thing. I know it may have happened too.
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>>28131176
I'm a bit optimistic so I think we (Europeans) will fight back eventually. The sentiment is rising, just yesterday 7/8 Austrian provinces voted for the anti-immigrant presidential candidate.
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>>28131413

I hope so, m8.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDLyKSYRqXM

>Are you willing to be plundered, yes or no?
>tfw a significant portion of millenials today would unironically answer "yes"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaD69sfK0qc
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>>28130250
ADHD is pretty common nowadays so don't loose hope that the rest of the community will forget about it
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>>28130695
No, I do not agree with that. But I also do not agree with how confused kids are, like at first I was like.. okay suddenly over 50% of teens are gay, I guess they are just experimenting or looking for an identity, then they start changing their gender while still liking girls, I was shocked a couple years ago when I found out teens were doing this. Worst thing in the world.

Nothing wrong if you want to be gay but please do not forget nature. Girls are born to like guys, guys are born to like girls.
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>>28131042
>Waiting for the real holocaust to happen

>Crashing that plane, with no survivors

I too know this feel kamerad
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>tfw although i'm pretty pathetic and a failure I never was given female hormones by a doctor who gave into my mental instability and delusions and dressed like a girl

Feels pretty damn good
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>>28131658
Especially kids falling for the trans meme like those that lie about their age to come onto this board.
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>tfw hon who started blockers at 17
kill me.
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>>28130366
>the sex change regret meme
>its full of fetishistits and not real trannies
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>>28131909
It takes time to heal.
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>>28131964

>regret is the meme
>not transsexuality

Anon, I...
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>>28130366
>'It is exhausting putting on make-up and wearing heels all the time.

Women do this every fucking day, you don't see them complaining. Men are lazy as fuck
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>>28131978
? i'm just proof that the start befor 18 meme doesn't mean tit if you lose the genetic lottery.
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>>28131989
Anon I'm a tranny
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>>28132108

I know, Anon. You fell for the tranny meme.
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>>28132016
>you don't see them complaining
You see feminists complain about it pretty regularly dude
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>>28131964
>"real" trannies
>trannies
>implying not all trannies are deluded fetishists
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>>28132036
Well exactly, it's looking like a very successful campaign by the alpha males to kick the weak minded out of the gene pool
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>>28132227
>"real" trannies
That's an oxymoron, like jumbo shrimp or baby grand
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>>28132598
no i have chad features. my jaw is the thing of legend. i'm 5'4" tho. i'm masc af desu.
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>>28130250
How the fuck did they reverse pic related?
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>>28130250
What's wrong with your benis anon?
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>>28132652
post pics pls, jjbj b
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>>28133034
>>>/lgbt/6083619
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>>28133054
Now post ass
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>>28133088
i don't see why you'd want that, i'm fucking disgusting.
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>>28130250
What's wrong with your benis anon?

uyrujyrfyuj
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>>28131042
>>28131176
>>28131413
>>28131554

never change /pol/
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>>28133139
I-I think you're cute, just go full boymode if you think you're not girly enough
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>>28131413
>I think we (Europeans) will fight back eventually.
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>>28133252
that's what that fucking video is. i only have man mode. you got poor taste if you think i'm not grodie af.
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>>28133290
Woah lady, stow the attitude sheesh. Just post some body pics, because your face passes well, maybe your body is holding you back.
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>>28133343
>face passes well
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>>28133362
You're a catty little bitch, aren't you?
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>>28133415
i'm just sick of people telling me i pass when i look like a man.
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>>28132698
He probably took hormones that fucked up his sexual organs
Fucking disgusting that corrupt doctors poison their patients with that shit
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>tfw fell for the dropping out of high school at 15 and not having a job for six years meme
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>>28133491
Yeah but then again my word>yours so I win. Who's a pretty girl?~
I honestly wish I was as pretty as you
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Hate to kill this thread or get any more beta orbiters than I already have, but I`m da bes trap :^)
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>>28133569
i'm not.why would you wanna be this uggo?
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>>28133998
You're on HRT I can tell.
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>>28134172
yeah i am why? i know it doesn't look like it.
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>>28134200
because you look so pretty /)^3^(\
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>>28134233
Go back to tumblr and encourage the mentally-ill there
You are a fucking disgustingly selfish fetishist who gets off to other people destroying their bodies
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>>28134301
>tfw tranny too
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>>28134365
That changes nothing
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>>28134233
i don't tho.
>>28134301
>tumblr
grodie brodie
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>>28134404
more face pics pls
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>>28133521
iktf senpai same age
i should transition desu
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>>28134429
why? idgi. plst stop boxing.
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>>28131042
>LE KIKES
>>>/pol/

no one is brainwashed; ppl legitimately want to be the opposite gender.
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>>28131964
that's a real bastard you got there.
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the more effeminate society becomes the better

I live around a bunch of thugs and gangsters so it's not good being born as a nice guy
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>>28134576

You live around a bunch of niggers, what did you expect?
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>>28130250
good, this is what you deserve you disgusting autistic tranny. now kill yourself
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Tbh, you look cute
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ahhahahahaahha
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>>28134510
First, many "trans" kids today are just effeminate men who've just been brainwashed into thinking they should become girls.
Second, the legitimately trans people have been brainwashed into believing they can turn into the opposite gender.
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Welp time to finish the job, OP. You know how they all end up.
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this post wouldn't normally have text
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This is why we should encourage lucid dreaming for those who only have a fetish of being the girl but dont have the looks and or are sane enouh not to ruin their lives over a fetish.

Sadly years of porn addiction to trap/sissy hypno/feminization and forced bi porn can really screw with your head and make you deluded enough to think you actually can pass as a woman and it will be like all the porn you watch! While at the same time people who've had porn addiction for that long will usually not have the discipline and restraint required to git gud at lucid dreaming to live out their fantasies and fetishes safely and privately because thats too much work and its much simpler to just keep browsing porn and fapping.
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>>28131042
There is always space.

Man, let those fucking monkeys have this shit planet.

after all this polluting and shilling the earth of its resources, they are just getting our planetary status sloppy seconds anyway.

http://www.mars-one.com/
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>>28136966
i've had dreams of being a qt anime girl, they were awesome
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>>28130250
>tfw fell for the trans meme
>have qt FtM bf, who is currently not on testosterone
>he shitposts here too
>has /d/egenerate fetishes like me
>not an sjw like most trannies
>basically have qt tomboy who's going to become a qt boy that has a vagoo as a partner
>we go to lgbt groups to laugh at degenerate tumblrites and unpassable hons with man voices
>watch animu and play vidya together
this is the life anon, I don't know what you did wrong.
Just date other trannies, that's easymode, although I've fugged real girls and I'm 5'1" with a 4.7in shrunken benis from hrt, no reason why you can't do it, just have to last long and have a good rhythm.

I believe in you anon, all of you.
For one, don't let your endocrinologist cuck you, take the following:
200mg spironolactone or 50mg cyproterone
alternatively get your balls removed
8mg estradiol (either type of pills, avoid premarin)
injections or implants are better of course
0.5mg dutasteride, or really any doseage of finasteride 1mg or higher.
some kind of progesterone, preferably bio-identical, I take shitty 0.5mg medoxyprogesterone, but without taking that you'll get cone tits.
Take all of this and you're much likely to be a qt, of course if you started past 20 you're really stretching it and it'd down to luck.

Also, train your voice, it's not hard, after 7 months of hard work I sounded like a girl, and not a faggot pretending to be a girl, although I probably sound a bit autistic, my voice has always been fairly monotone.
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>>28138204
Can I rotate pls
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>>28138295
rotate?
you mean swap?
I gave you advice anon, try okcupid.
When dating trannies, get to know them well before making it serious, most are very mentally ill, that's fine, but only if the mental illness is a type that you personally can tolerate.

For example, I can't tolerate anger issues, anger freaks me out.
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>>28138204
>I sounded like a girl
>my voice has always been monotone
then you don't sound like a girl you retard
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>>28139047
sounding like a girl is about not having resonance, if you feel vibrations in your chest to any degree when talking, you have a faggot voice, not a girl voice.
I don't mean literally monotone, I mean apathetic sounding I guess.
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1QXd7uT2p43
It's an annoying, nasally girl voice, but to normies it seems to pass, your call anon.
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>>28130250
What about a bf OP? :3
I mean you might as well at this point
You could fulfill some poor anon's dreams
You'd be like their best friend
Except you wear dresses
and make them give you cummies
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

HAHAHAHAHAHAH, OH SHIT MY NIGGA! HAHAHAHAHA!

IT'S OVER BOYOS.
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>>28138204
>tfw you're not her ftm bf
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>>28139284
are you in Australia FtManon?
you might have a change with me anyway, I'm polyamorous (I can love more than one person), and clingy
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>>28130250
>>tfw didn't help with getting gfs
why would being an imitation girl help you get a gf?
girls either want men or they want actual women, not something in between.

Lesbians don't want anything to do with penis
Straight girls want a man who an provide for them, fuck them hard and give them babies. (guarantee all these tumblrinas will come around to this in their early to mid 20s, women can't help themselves)

You can't fit into this anywhere, you should only become a trans if all you want is to be filled with cocks.
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>>28139390
>polyamorous
absolutely fucking disgusting
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>>28139416
I'm not a slut, I just share my love with a select few people anon.
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What a surprise, mutilating your body did nothing to help you deal with your psychological issues
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>>28139390
LONDON
O
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O
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kidding, but yeah, britfag
i'm also poly to some extent, theres just so many qt people out there ;_;

it's hard finding people that aren't assholes about me being trans though (though i don't blame them)

tfw you want to love on all of the sad anons here but they would just see you as a mentally ill girl WHICH IS ARGUABLY TRUE RIP

sorry for the blogpost
are you a tranny too?
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>>28139462
Stfu you mentally ill brainwashed faggot.

The only person that thinks you're a girl is yourself and the other fucked up faggots raised on excessive amounts of the Kike box.
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>>28139511
>he didnt read my posts
>he just pandered to my mental illness by calling me a boy
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>>28139462
I'm
>>28138204
So yeah, I'm a transgirl, if you post skype or email, I'll add/message you, friends are kewl
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>>28139548
Good for you. If you're stupid enough to mutilate yourself, you'll get to see what it feels to be the epitome of beta.

A hell worse than what OP has. An ugly, effeminate, short, probably balding from all of the hormones beta male.

One day I'd like to come across a freak Stacy liks you so I can bash your skull in without white knights rushing over and the cops being called.
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>>28139579
desu i realized how i'm already not talking to any of the friends i have due to various things

i'll pass for now anon ;_; don't want to ignore more people

have a good time with your bf tho

>>28139697
lel, even i don't know where i'm going
i see being trans as a legit mental illness and i wish there was a cure that made me a cis female

i don't really want to transition and be the beta of betas, but it's either that or death because i can't stand being in "the wrong body" (nice meme phrasing, i know)

i'll probably just not transition and kms before you find me
MISCHIEF
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>>28139762
Kill yourself now you disgrace.

That's a fine cure.
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>>28130250
>I can't get a gf, so I'll become a girl. Then I'll sure get a gf

u wot m8?
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>>28130250
This is like saying the patriarchy causes men to objectify womens. You chose to look at gay porn because you are and have always been a faggot.
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>>28139911
calm down buddy
i'm just waiting to see what happens with me. i've had these feelings for over 4 years now. i'm honestly just hoping it's a phase

if it's not a phase and i don't blossom into a beautiful stacy after a while, and/or these feelings get worse, i'll off myself

don't get mad about us mentally ill people brother, we're just doing our own thing and it's pretty embarrassing tbqh but that's all we got. you're objectively better than us and i accept that ;_; have a good life
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>>28139965
Have a shit life you fuck.
You deserve no sympathy you genetic trash.
What a waste, hopefully you grow up and stop being some buzzfeed watching attention whore zombie.
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boipucci posters ruin yet another life
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>>28140092
You're gotta be pretty weak to fall for the boipuccy meme tbqh
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>>28140047
>hopefully you grow up and stop being some buzzfeed watching attention whore zombie

i hope i become that. i fucking hate buzzfeed shit
it would be better than not recognizing anything about yourself when you look in the mirror
and wanting to be bros with men but the "DON'T LET WOMEN KNOW OUR SECRETS XDDD NEVER BE FRIENDS WITH A WOMAN BROS BEFORE HOES" meme keeps you down, because everyone sees you as a girl

>inb4 roastie
khv because of my social issues/hikki status, born out of tranny shit. havent had any friends irl. i've had a few online friends. i try to only make friends with other trannies because cis people either don't enable me or they think im a qt cute and want to fuck me

>tfw you don't want a chad or an orbiter or any romantic interest from anyone, you just want to be a guy with normal guy friends and top banter
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>>28130250
Why on Earth would it have helped with getting gfs? Chris-Chan? I've literally never seen anyone say such a stupid thing anon.
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As a person born with legitimate physical disabilities that I didn't choose, I just don't understand the trans mindset. Why would you choose to take your perfectly healthy normal non-disabled body for granted and mutilate yourself like that?

It's exactly the same as that Jewel Shuping cunt who blinded herself with drain cleaner because she identified as a blind person. Why would she do this?

The answer to both questions are EXACTLY the same: Because you're too fucking coward to accept the real world. You can't live in reality. You don't want to take responsibility for yourself and put forth the effort to earn your own living. So you transition into a category that will allow you to be coddled and have your every whim catered by a loving support social safety net.

You want to be a woman because you can't handle the challenges of being a man. Just like Jewel blinded herself because she wants to be more helpless and have other people cater to her every whim and need. Do men expect the world to hand them everything on a silver platter? Fuck no, we're strong and tough and capable of facing our challenges.

Even though I'm 4'10", even though my vision is shit and my hearing loss is severe to the point where my hearing aids turned up full blast still registers as quiet distortion to my eardrums, I'm still the Bruce Banner to your Bruce Jenner.

As a person with disabilities, I hereby yield my disabled toilet privileges to any transgender folk who needs all the more than plenty of personal space that they could have ever possibly asked for. At least I, as a defective manlet, have the strength and fortitude to live in the real world and accept my body, and own up to it.
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>>28140217
what do you think of me?

i'm a trans "man" as in i was born a girl but i feel like a guy. every single time i look in the mirror, i expect to see a straighter figure, no tits, a dick, etc. it's a disgusting shock every time those things are missing

it's like knowing that you're a white man, but every time you look in the mirror, or when anyone addresses you, you're a black man. it fucks with your sense of self and reality.

i fully accept that this is a mental illness and that i'm lucky to have a functioning body in the first place. for that reason, i don't think i'm actually going to transition. i can't stand the thought of shortening my life, only to become a freak rather than the full-on man i thought i was

so, tl;dr i'm a mentally ill girl who expects to see a guy when i look in the mirror. why am i trans? just retardedness, or do you think there's a theory behind this, too? genuinely curious.
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>>28139419
Never called you a slut, I just said you were fucking disgusting
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>>28140283
Are you aroused by your own tits and vag?
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>>28140373
idk, not on me. i am actually objectively attracted to my body. if i look at it and imagine it's not mine (which is pretty easy to do, i do that naturally) then it's a nice body. but it's a fucked up cycle, because if i get aroused then i become aware of my genitals and remember tfw no dick and then remember it IS my body

have fun masturbating to this one boys, i'm sure someone will
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>>28140352
Okay anon, nice to clear that up.
What makes me disgusting exactly?
Are you upset that a 5'1" manlet taking female hormones can have a qt gf that plans on taking male hormones, and you cannot?
Or is loving more than one person awful to you?
I understand not being able to do it yourself, I personally am not a jealous person, but it's a way of life that works well for mentally ill people, often with personality disorders.
Try OkCupid desu anon, good luck finding a qt gf.

Use the fact I can find someone as motivation I guess, and good luck to you.
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>>28140414
Post your tits and ass. Because it's not like you care about them.
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You should post this to one of those tranny places on Reddit
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>>28140283

I would say "When I look in the mirror I expect to clearly see a dude with two green eyes," but that's assuming that I live in a constant state of denial. That used to be the case when I was in grade school when a crush stopped talking to me mid-sentence and pointed out the fact that I had no pupil in my right eye. She kind of stopped hanging around me after that, and hung around lower-quality dudes who at least didn't induce secondhand embarrassment in everyone.

Look, I get your way of thinking, sort of. I read lots of DragonLance novels in middle school, idly fantasizing that I would one day wake up on Krynn as a kender with a hoopak ready to accompany knights and elves and dwarves on a quest to rid the world of dragons. This was 10 years before kids had the same fantasies about receiving an owl from Hogwarts. As much as I felt like I didn't belong on Earth, I'm stuck

Accepting my reality is a matter of weighing my options for the future. There ARE options for me to get an enucleation for my right eye and have it replaced with a real-looking glass eye, get LASIK on my good eye so I wouldn't need coke-bottle glasses, or to maybe get cochlear implants...but that would require asking for handouts to fund these things. But suppose I do this -- then I'd have to clean my glass eye, keep my socket from getting infected, go in for maintenance on my cochlear implants, do they require batteries, do they run out and need to be changed as often as regular hearing aid batteries, are the batteries more expensive, etc. you get the idea. I COULD transition to look non-disabled, but the ensuing continuous expenses would far outweigh the easygoing option that I've chosen now.

You can still act like a man. Hang with the same group long enough, social dynamics will eventually do its thing and you'll get treated like one.
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>>28140578
those are degenerate hugboxes full of unpassable man-faced, man-voiced hons that will validate and call you beautiful no matter how awful you look or sound.
I hate hons, they should be the first to be gassed, qt passable trannies, even mostly passable ones are fine, but hons ruin everything.
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>>28140636
i understand. i've fully felt like this and thought of it as "trans" for 4+ years. before that, i always felt weird and off. i didn't know what it was.

i've tried everything that i can think of. one of those things was trying not to live in denial. that failed because then i would 100% see myself as having this body, and then i would have very regular breakdowns. i tried following this through to see if i got used to it, but it didn't work. i eventually went back to denying, because that meant not crying all day.

i guess i'm just not strong enough, i don't know. but that's not an excuse. i'm planning to try acceptance again soon, but it's insanely hard for me. both in the way that it's hard to do it and cry so much, and in the way that i have a mental block. my brain often stops working when i try to think about all of this because i've repressed so hard.

i feel like i could "pass" as a male with hormones, albeit a short and probably ugly one (which i would prefer so much over being seen as a girl, and yes i know it's a shitty existence)

i haven't even experienced easy mode, so i wouldn't be missing much. i've distanced myself from people and education, so i never had any chances to use my easy mode to get things. i don't know.

only future i can see for myself is either growing out of this or mutilating myself. i've been working hard on growing out of it for what feels like so long now, but i'll keep trying. thanks anon, good luck with everything on your side. i admire you for laying out your options.
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>>28130366
>look at this site
>dude writes that sex change doesn't make you real female and that it doesn't change your genes as if it wasn't obvious
Are male to female trannies really that retarded? I thought everyone who takes up this kind of change, and even gets a reassignment surgery, knows it's going to make them infertile and all. Hell in my country the surgery is illegal unless you change your gender in the documents because if a doctor does it to you while you're still assigned the gender you got assigned at birth, he can get jailed for mutilating you even if you wanted it.
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>>28140768
in all honesty anon, FtMs who aren't fatass tumblrites with dyke haircuts are usually pretty attractive dudes, just don't get cucked by your endocrinologist, if you can handle needles, you'll get enough test to be an attractive guy.

The hard part is finding someone who's cool with dating a dude who has a vag.
You could probably date a transgirl, or even another FtM, but normies don't seem to be into that very often, you might get to be someone's 'exception' if you're lucky other than that.

Also don't get the phalloplasty, it's literally an arm or leg skin sausage around your clit and looks horrifying, also has no real feeling.
That and leaves a horrifying scar.
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>>28140949
no, the trannies that don't research into what the hormones they're taking, and surgeries they plan on getting are the retarded ones.

I mean I'm a tranny myself but I still think the surgery is basically genital mutilation because of the mediocre results even with recent surgeries (barely any lubrication, have to dilate it for the rest of your life or you'll lose depth, neo-clitoris necrosis risk, among other shit)

Hormones and getting balls removed so I need to take two less pills a day is fine with me, my benis works fine still, and the FtM bf likes it.
Used to hate it, but I've grown to accept it, given that it, and the rest of my body has changed with hormones.
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>>28140768
You could probably pull a cuteboy look unless you cut your hair too short. Please, don't cut your hair too short.
t. ftm "dude" who just got his hair cut too short
It's not that I look like a dyke because of it (almost 2 years of taking testosterone does the trick), but I look uglier than with longer hair. Still sometimes I get called cute or pretty boy by strangers even though I'm not good looking at all and like 5'8 in shoes.
I don't know your situation, but I gotta say, for the fact nobody treats me as female anymore and I can function in society normally (as in have friends, go to parties), and for the fact I even get called cute or handsome sometimes, as a boy, and most of all for the fact I can literally forget that I'm not a normal guy sometimes - it was all worth it, even if it was hard sometimes.
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>>28130250
>being a tranny because you thought it would make your life easier
leave it to the pros, it only works if you actually want it
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>>28140954
NO YOU WON'T!

I'm surprised you think it's that easy too.
You just inject test and all of a sudden you just magically become Chad, huh?

Wow, you're retarded. Don't you think if it was that easy every man would be injecting test?

To be an attractive man is to be a product of perfect circumstances.

Your mother and father must have superb genes and luck out on genetic recombination; your mother must have enough test in the womb to flood you with enough to give you masculine, dimorphic facial ratios/proportions; during puberty, you must have a high test to Estrogen ratio in order to sculpt and define your face.

All that women have to do to look good is maintain a netenous face via estrogen (which is fucking everywhere today), stay fit and came makeup on.

Ultimately, a handsome man and an ugly woman are exceptions to the rule.

A couple needles filled with artifical test won't help you recreate 18 years worth of perfect timing and hormones.
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>>28140949
In America, our federalized healthcare system pays for gender reassignment.

Anything to get those white betas infertile.
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>>28141154
more attractive men tend to have androgynous bone structures, but with masculine fat distribution, and low body fat in general.
Most chads don't have large jaws, chins or brow bones.
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>>28140954
>>28141050
you guys ;_; stop enabling me. but okay, here's my individual replies.

>>28140954
think i would look good on T. i have a good facial structure for it. my bones are a little feminine for my liking, but hopefully the workouts i already do paired with testosterone would help me build muscles in places and help make my figure a little more masculine.

i'm pretty much asexual right now. not in the meme tumblr way, but just that i can't stand the thought of sex, and kind of want romance but i'm still emotionally stunted and reluctant towards the thought. but i guess i could think of that when i was more comfortable with myself. thank you for the advice. wasn't thinking of phalloplasty, i agree that it's disgusting.

>>28141050
i could. i already think of myself as a cute boy when i'm enabling myself. i agree with the hair thing.i think slightly long hair for a guy helps smooth out round girly features. hope your hair is good soon.

yes, in my current situation, the idea of just being seen as a male would let me deal with having a vagina and not being a normal dude. but as i said, i'm procrastinating as hard as i can before coming out or making any movement towards it because i just want to go cis female. it would be so much easier. but i also cannot wrap my mind around the concept of being female. it's a mess.

all i do right now is work out to stay healthy and to build some muscle and give me something to do. i can see myself getting much better gains if i transitioned. that's another tempting thought. i don't want to be a muscle chad, i just want to smooth out my figure a bit with obliques and stuff.

anyway, thanks for the advice, buddy. i feel disgusting and wrong for trying to indulge myself and thinking about transitioning, but it's also so tempting. i hate the feeling.

continuing post + also replying to another guy coming up
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cont. because i was blog posting too long

>>28141154
i already have an almost-passing face from my mother. she looks like a dude too. but my body is real feminine and that worries me. it's in the bone structure, not even the fat.

so i don't know. i just keep putting it off and thinking it through and going through cycles of thinking i'm fucking disgusting and mentally ill and will never escape and then thinking i could be cute and that i should start self-mutilating now, lol.

who knows. thanks for the advice guys. i'll keep trying to think about this, it's just extremely hard for me to wrap my head around

i'm so far into it that it's hard for me to remember that i'm female to everyone else. that makes it much more difficult to analyze. but i'll work through it for all my mentally retarded bros and gals out there
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>>28141204
>tend to have androgynous bone structures, but with masculine fat distribution

Bullshit, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

Even the 'androgynous' looking ones have perfect facial ratios and proportions. Meaning even though they had shit puberty's, there mothers gave produced excessive testosterone in their prenatal phase. They were born Chads.

Hi measure your facial ratios right now, even if they look perfect I guarantee you they're small and only look so because you maintained a pedomorphic face.
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>>28141232
Careful with the hope for muscles - I had it and of course, my build changed a bit (I'm really skinny, but I still have bigger muscle & strenght than girls who are my height and similar/slightly bigger weight), but I still couldn't really get shredded despite working out. As for the asexual thing - I was like that too, after hormones it changed a bit (hell, I fell in love for the first time only after being on T for a while), but to be honest it's kinda a source of suffering because there really aren't many girls willing to accept a dude with vag. Got "laid" a few times but that's it.
Anyways, I don't know how old are you + I don't know you, but you sound a little like me before. I started late (at 20 yo) because I wanted to fit in and be female really hard, but it just didn't work. You should go to a doctor and talk to a gender therapist for a while. I talked to a psychologist-sexologist for half a year before I made any other steps towards the change, it cleared up my mind, made me accept myself as I am a little more - even if I'm not normal, it's fine, I'm just me, and I'm becoming happier as the changes happen even if it's not as "easy" for me as for others, but others have their own problems anyways, shit happens.
>>28141275
>my body is real feminine
Besides of wide shoulders for a female and small hips, my body is very feminine, delicate build and all. You can find right clothes to hide it a little bit (a simple sweater little too big in the shoulders, but well fit in the waist, for example), and feminine men are some sort of an aesthetic nowadays too.
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>>28141275
You don't have the facial ratios. You don't have the skull size. Your canthal tilt is hyperfeminized.

You can't recreate Chad, he is a work of fucking art! People dedicate their lives figuring out how he looks! Men spends thousands of dollars to look like him!

No way some mentally deranged bitch can look like a good looking man. YOU WON'T EVEN LOOK HUMAN.
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>>28141398
Oh come on, you don't know how this person looks.

Look at this guy, Balian Buschbaum. He was born female too, but he looks like a Chad to me
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>>28130250
>tfw depressed virgin /r9k/ retard for years
>fell for the trans meme
>life improved significantly ever since
>got a loving bf that supports me
>can actually focus on school and work instead of being lonely and depressed all the time
>can't even pass but still feel more confident/happy with my body
Everyone who is saying becoming a tranny is a bad idea clearly doesn't know how to do it right, unless you got particularly fucked by genes it's actually pretty easy and enjoyable!
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>>28141456
She looks like an ugly bitch. No where near as good look as a man. Looks more like a child, actually.

You're insane if you think women don't want men and would rather have cheap imitation eunuchs.
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>>28138204
>with a 4.7in shrunken benis from hrt

WTFVMY DICK IS SMALLER AND I HAVE NEVER DID HRT OR OTHER TRANS BULLSHIT
FFS I QUIT THIS WORLD
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>>28141392
yeah, i don't expect to get shredded, and i don't really want to be. i was just hoping that the workouts i already do might get a little better for me if i started T, but i'm not dependent on it.

i'm 19 right now. i've officially felt this way for over 4 years, and knew that it was called "trans". before that, i always felt weird, but didn't label it as anything and didn't explore it.

i'm terrified of the idea that i would have to go through all of this shit just to be what i already feel like i am. it sucks. i want to be female really hard still, but it's not working for me either. i keep hoping it's going to work but i don't know any more. i hate that it feels like my only real choice is to mutilate myself, even if the results might look good

i have large hips and small shoulders, kek. it's an attractive body honestly, but just not on me. but a lot of guys these days are short beta losers and i'm fine with joining the ranks. i'm waiting for someone to reply to me and tell me how hard it is being a beta loser but i would go through anything just to not have this fucking body and mind related crisis 500 times a day. i know a lot about good techniques to hide your body, pass better, etc, but thank you. i've studied up on this way too much and it all seems so appealing.

>>28141398
i don't want to be a chad. i honestly don't find chads attractive. i want to be a normal guy, which means not being ripped or perfect. i also like the cute /fa/ggot aesthetic for myself, so i could pull that off.

yeah yeah women won't want me but honestly i don't want women if i'm going to live like this for the rest of my life. i just want to not feel like shit every single day for these reasons that feel like they're petty

but if they're petty then why do i feel so bad about them

because i'm a weak mentally ill faggot, i know :^)

thanks again for the advice and pep talk though, other guy.
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