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Last night was pretty eye opening. The niggers voted for Hillary over Sanders. It's almost as if the people of this country don't care about improving things.

This country is beyond repair and what do you do to something that is beyond repair? You pitch it and get a new one.

We should just elect Trump so he can run this country into the ground so we can have our glorious communist uprising from the rubble.
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>>28006581
>This country is beyond repair and what do you do to something that is beyond repair? You pitch it and get a new one.

no you move to somewhere that's already a socialist paradise

sweden, germany, etc. now shoo shoo reddit shill

everybody, kindly put sage in the options field when you reply to this thread
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>>28006605
Socialism is coming sooner or later, capitalism barely has enough jobs to keep every afloat now, it's starting to scale back globally as it loses access to slave labor in the third world.
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>>28006581
No, we should just round up all you commie assholes and give you a .45 Federal HST dose of freedom.
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>>28006581
the state does not fix anything, you moron
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>>28006897
Wait, you want to use MY tax money to make me into a girl? Fuck you and your agenda.
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>>28006963
kill yourself barbarian
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>>28006581
Kill yourself you fucking commie
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>>28007329
The world needs you now more than ever, Mi General ;_;
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I'm sorry comrade, I just don't have the energy to fight of the hoards of underage classcucks today.
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Anarcho-nationalist here. Wondering if we share many similarities.
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>>28007289
liberal democracy, asshole
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>>28007366
We need a Pinochet
https://youtu.be/zhrYY3ocQ5o
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>>28006897
Freedom is not possible. Freedom implies doing what you want. If people have the power to do what they want, they create slavery, which is the opposite of freedom. We need equality.
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Don't mean to be rude, but there is a board for this

>>>/pol/
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>>28007390
I love that page. Takudzwa is a gentleman and a scholar.
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>>28007416

These freemasonry ideas are full of shit. Can't you see it?
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>>28007416
How about this?

Fuck equality.
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The only socialism there ever works was national socialism

*tips fedora intensely*
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>>28007444
not op but /r9k/, as a board, has no official topic. It's a random board, he can talk about whatever he wants

>>28007385
>Anarcho-nationalist
that doesn't make sense
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>>28007501
We don't need a state to have a strong national identity.
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>>28007463
Only because they imprisoned people who didn't like it.
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>>28007411
Whoever made this video should get a helicopter ride. What an insult the the General's memory.
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Salute to you comrades
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>>28007544
Get this Slavic shit outta here.
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>>28007501
Random doesn't mean "random" random. It means it's for stuff that doesn't fit onto other subject specific boards.

This is clearly a /pol/ thread
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>>28007554
This is TIKKO, in Turkey.
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>>28006581
Get the fuck out of my village you normie scum....
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>>28007531
Try entering in Japan and do whatever you want. You can't. You're gonna be arrested and deported. Solid culture, by the way.
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>>28006581

Whenever I'm down about the state of the US, I always read this to cheer myself up:

https://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/1934/08/ame.htm

>You are prepared to do this as is no other country. Nowhere else has the study of the internal market reached such intensity as in the United States. It has been done by your banks, trusts, individual businessmen, merchants, traveling salesmen and farmers as part of their stock-in-trade. Your soviet government will simply abolish all trade secrets, will combine all the findings of these researches for individual profit and will transform them into a scientific system of economic planning. In this your government will be helped by the existence of a large class of cultured and critical consumers. By combining the nationalized key industries, your private businesses and democratic consumer cooperation, you will quickly develop a highly flexible system for serving the needs of your population.
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>>28006581
Bernie Sanders actually said "white people can't know what it's like to be poor". He's a racist jew. So all those white people who are homeless can't actually experience poverty due to being white? Seems legit. Literally washing out the race. The world would be a shithole without europeans, and before we colonised a lot of countries they were literally performing incest, cannibalism, enslaving each other, rapes, pedophilia, and so on and had very little in terms of healthcare or education and yet we ruined the world? Did you know there are more slaves right now in Africa owned by black people then were ever taken to America during the slave trade? If these people really gave a fuck they'd be SJW's against the current slavery not milking some bullshit that happened in the past for their own personal benefits when the people who actually sold them in the first place were... black.
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>>28007544
Lmao as if.

Commies are afraid of guns because guns are racist.
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>>28007531

>people they didn't like

Basically just kikes and communists. Nice.

Ussr basically used gulag system to make sure no one stepped out of line. Soldiers who retreated in USSR ww2 got threatened with gulag for them and their wife.
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>>28007878
What?

originalerino comment
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>>28007862

>takes credit for his ancestors when he hasn't done shit for humanity
>thinks culture and technological development is genetic
>thinks imperialism is a means of civilizing savages rather than a means of gaining access to cheap labor and abundant natural resources
>thinks Bernie Sanders is a communist
>thinks Europe didn't also have a staggering array of primitive practices and barbaric beliefs, such as paganism and witchcraft

You are so brainwashed it literally fucking hurts me.
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>>28007966
Guns kill our ebony BBC Gods, you fucking fascist. Learn to read. I can't even right now.
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>>28006581
Fucking shit bait you faggot
Trump ruining our country will not usher in jack shit

I hope you gag on ISIS cum
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>>28008051

>muh Muslims

Explain why you're so irrationally afraid of an organization that literally doesn't have the military capacity to even begin an invasion on US soil.
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>>28008120
>doesn't have the military capacity to even begin an invasion on US soil
Terrorism, you stupid fucking asshole.
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>>28008032
Thats SJWism, has nothing to do with communism
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>>28008002
What the fuck are you even talking about, I didn't even mention communism. Make some more sense please.
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>>28008170
Literally the same marxist vomit.

They'll all look the same between in the sights of my rifle anyway.
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>>28008160

Yes, because the US has had THOUSANDS of high-casualty Islamic terrorist attacks since 2001.

Oh, wait. We haven't had fucking any.
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>>28008183

This is a communist thread.

Why would you write a rambling paragraph about something not related to communism in a communist thread?
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>>28008211
>Oh, wait. We haven't had fucking any.
Yet.

This is the same kind of cheek-parting mentality that's getting France (a socialist state, no less lmao) absolutely rekt.
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>>28008277

This is the definition of fear-mongering.

More people die in car accidents that by terrorist attacks by several hundred (probably thousand) percent. I don't see you advocating for the unilateral destruction of automobiles.
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>>28008199
Except its not, because SJWs are mentally ill sheltered people who have never seen real problems. The people in pic related put their lives on the line for what they believe is right, only that fact puts them thousands of miles apart from SJWs.

>They'll all look the same between in the sights of my rifle anyway.

Tough guy detected. You would have a 7.62 sized hole in your forehead before you could point your rifle anywhere if you actually tried to fight battle hardened fighters like in my previous pic.
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>>28006581
>The niggers voted for Hillary over Sanders.

>The poor and opressed working class black man becomes a nigger as soon as he joins any other worship cult besides mine.

Yet another ego feeder for megalomaniacs under the veil of a "revolutionary ideology".

This sort of stuff is for normies. Go to /pol/ or Leddit with it.
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Finally a general I can get into

This country is full of sociopaths who only care about them selves. People are happy spending stupid amounts of money and think that there actions have no consequence.
So they suffer. They suffer with stupid amounts of debt. They have psudo relationships run on money and status. They suffer with legal writing and bank rules.

Only way were getting people to actually start to care about politics and not just vote for whatever is in front of them by is by some kinda food shortage or natural disaster.
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>>28008342
LEL

Most of those guerrilla faggots are liberal arts college students who brainwash or straight up force poorfag peasants to do the fighting for them. It's been that way since Marx.

>You would have a 7.62 sized hole in your forehead before you could point your rifle anywhere if you actually tried to fight battle hardened fighters like in my previous pic.
Ow the edge. "battle hardened" like your nippon steel katana?
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>>28007416
>we need equality by giving absolute power to a small group of people to rule over the commom folk in the way they want
>that's equality
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>>28008425
>think that there actions have no consequence,So they suffer. They suffer with stupid amounts of debt.

Well that's because the government not only encourages such action but also provide financial aid to banks to do it
and yet there are fucking retards like you wanting to give the government even more power
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>>28007758
Indeed. Stopping a function from occuring on its own and then simulating that function in huge computing centers like the Soviets to reach the same results without having to backpedal on your ideology truly is a victory.
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>>28008428
Liberal arts? Are you retarded? These pics are from Turkey and Syria, do you think anyone even knows what liberal arts are there?

>straight up force poorfag peasants to do the fighting for them

Not really. A very large portion of them are university students. Also, leaders are elected by the fighters. Many guerillas have risen up to commander ranks while joining as a simple fighter.


>Ow the edge. "battle hardened" like your nippon steel katana?

No, battle hardened as in have fougth in actual battles and taken part in firefights against competent military forces.
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>>28008425
People already care about politics. Which is why Trump is so popular. Because we don't need anymore soft communism.

See, the problem with communists is that they believe in democracy only until their guy starts to lose, then they call for revolution and class war. The people have decided and they decided that they don't want socialists in office. Deal with it ;)
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>>28006581
A man who has never worked a 9-5 job and lived most of his life leaching off the government is somehow what Marx meant.

Sure let's let the feminists, socialists, sjw, and cultural Marxist who thinks the wage gap is a thing lead a nation.

Him and trump are both anti establishment that's all they have going for them but only one of them has a toxic view of the world.

P.S Hillary is a criminal, everyone knows that, but her voters only want a vagina to become president.
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>>28008425
I fully agree with you
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>>28008342
Yeah, but comrade, have you been to this site before? They have no arguments against socialism as such; they are not well-versed in political economy for that. Instead, have the "cuck-meme" and similar, related memes. It is their only weapon: pointing out how weak and "beta" sjws and modern quasi-socialists are. Or how socialism = moslem invasion. Or something about Trump. That's it, that's all they have. Hence they must, MUST, lump all socialists into that same, pathetic pile in order to reject socialism. Because against tough, militant socialism their cuck-meme does not work, and so they must deny that it exists at all.
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>>28008531
>do you think anyone even knows what liberal arts are there?
Yes. It's called philosophy and letters or humanities.

>Not really. A very large portion of them are university students
There you go. Proved my point.

Like always, the intelligentsia using the poor to fight their wars for them.

>battle hardened as in have fougth in actual battles and taken part in firefights against competent military forces.
>the turkroach army
>competent in any way whatsoever
pic related
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>>28008531
>Turkey and Syria
>Commies

Have you considered the possibility that they might be just regular tribal militas that put on an ironic red star to trick the Soviets/Russians into giving them weapons against the other tribe?
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>>28008601
>Yes. It's called philosophy and letters or humanities.

Doesnt matter what you want to call it, im from Turkey and no one there knows about it or studies it.

>There you go. Proved my point.

No faggot, the people who go to fight and die are university students. Leader positions are solely elected based on merit.

>the turkroach army
>competent in any way whatsoever

Look man im Kurdish and i hate TSK with every cell in my body, but you cannot deny that they are a competent fighting force.
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>>28008663
No, tribes stand with the Turkish gov. There are arab tribes in the SDF, but the Kurdish part is solely partisan.
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>>28008601
>Right-wing: ISIS is a major threat!! The mudslimes r coming! We need to build a FUCKING WALL!! Dem socialists are too soft to do anything!
Cool. Did you know socialists are fighting ISIS right now? AND they have to deal with the turks also?
>Right-wing: Pffftt! I'm going to claim the guys I just said are super-tough and a major threat are now not competent at all! See, socialists are always soft per definition because I said so. No, I've never read any history, why?
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>>28008695
>Doesnt matter what you want to call it, im from Turkey and no one there knows about it or studies it.
What do the uni students study then, usually? Is it STEM-guys in the militias, or what?
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>>28008586
Well said

originalerino
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>>28008742
Many medical school students, economy is popular as well, STEM has a good presence and lastly political science.
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>>28008695
>im from Turkey and no one there knows about it or studies it.
LEL are turkaroach universities so shitty that they don't have a law, history or philosophy faculty?

>the people who go to fight and die are university students
>literally believing the propaganda
Whatever you say, boss.

>you cannot deny that they are a competent fighting force.
I can and I am. Fuck turkroach and fuck commies.
Trump 2016 give 'em hell Donald
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>>28008717
Kurds are a "tribe" too. A large one. (Like Turks are a tribe wuth planes and mechanized infantry)

If the West said tomorrow that "Kurds are cool, we will put all our resources into creating their homeland" the red star would be gone and buried off your flag as you laugh about how gullible the Soviets were thinking you gave two shits about their ideology.

The Kurdish struggle is a nationalist one that uses the red star for resources and nothing more.
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>>28008695
>actually giving your life so the kike can profit
bahahahahaha the mad man
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>>28006581
True communists despise social democrats for hijacking the worker's movement with bread & circuses.
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>>28008516

>same results

Better results.

Not only would socialism be more efficient and more adequately serve the needs of the masses, but capitalism can't even sustain itself and only a cursory analysis of the system will tell you that it's full of contradictions that will lead to its inevitable demise.
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>>28008849
yeah but unfortunately we now need reform to have any class consciousness whatsoever.
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>>28008601
>turkroach army
Oh, they only fought a war against the TURKISH army? *sits fat ass down into computer chair* Well, here I thought you said these where tough-guys? *licks cheeto dust of fingers*. I mean, arming yourself and risking your life in an actual battle is really not a big deal at all and in no way tough if it's against the Turks! *pops anime into DVD-player, hugs waifu-pillow*. Oh, well, let me know if you have any examples of REAL men who are socialists, to me they all seem like just a bunch of heavily-armed, death-defying, fearless KEKS haha! *cries about being a virgin*
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>>28008816
>LEL are turkaroach universities so shitty that they don't have a law, history or philosophy faculty?

They have them, no one studies it though. There is close to zero interest in it.

>Whatever you say, boss.

Im from a leftist family and i personally know guerilla veterans and party members. Im talking out of first hand experience.

>I can and I am. Fuck turkroach and fuck commies.
Trump 2016 give 'em hell Donald

You have just proven that you are a delusional faggot.
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>>28008506
Who said I wanted to give THIS government power?

The United states Goverment has proven to massively distrustful. They lie to the people they spend pension on bad deals ect ect.
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>>28008586
>...Or something about Trump.

>>28008816
>Trump 2016 give 'em hell Donald

As predictable as the sun-rise. Never change, r9k!

in b4 "it's just a meme/joke!"
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>>28008871
Sanders will only degrade the communist cause by distracting the workers from the underlying problems by pacifying them. He'll inspire class consciousness, but he'll direct their energy towards useless endeavors like restricting the banks slightly and allowing slightly more immigration.
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>>28008844
Not really. SDF is being directly support by the coalition today yet their governance system is far left.
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>>28008904
I kekked, well said comrade
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You're government has been caught literally spying on you and yet you want to give more and more power
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>>28008945

Ideological purism is anti-materialist.

The US is not in any way, shape, or form ready for a revolutionary situation. Until it is, all we can do is make things at least mildly better for the workers and spread class consciousness.
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>>28008976
>The US is not in any way, shape, or form ready for a revolutionary situation. Until it is, all we can do is make things at least mildly better for the workers and spread class consciousness.
I'm a fascist arguing from a limited knowledge of communist thought, so I admit you may be right.
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>>28008849
>True communists despise social democrats
Again, they're the same thing. It's like calling a tapeworm a parasite and a hookworm a worm when they're both disgusting parasites.
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>>28008968
And they will vote into power a businessman know mostly for being a pretty bad businessman. Or a sociophatic crook. They DESERVE this. They really do.
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>>28009007

>fascist

Interestingly enough, your ideology and my ideology will start gaining ground at roughly the same time. Admittedly, fascism has a historical track record of kicking the shit out of communism in times of economic crises, but hopefully next time around will be different.
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>>28008976
The workers don't want communism. It's been demonstrated time and time again, yet you fucking pinkos keep trying to brainwash them. It's too late, people are too smart to get riled up by communist tripe like in the bolshevik days. Really, the only way you people could possible start a "revolution" (which really isn't a revolution but an extreme regression) is if you forced the workers and that won't happen because the workers are big rednecks with guns or tough mexicans who scare your liberal candy asses :^)
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>>28009024
Except they are vastly different both in theoretical analysis, goals, and actual deeds. And have clashed numerous times, sometimes violently. But you don't know that because you are completely ignorant about all of this. How do you expect to win an argument when you literally have no idea what you're arguing against?

Can't you just be like >>28009007 ? I mean, he's fascist scum but at least he admits he has limited knowledge.
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>>28008867
"Better" is dependent on personal viewpoint.

Think of the efficency we could achieve by replacing all food commerce, package and advertising with a single universal engineered paste that would give 100% of the nutritional needs of the masses!

Clothes by the same logic. Universal, super efficent uniforms. The most efficent apartment design as a standard!

All who deviate from this are greedy, self agrandizing bastards who want to starve the masses for their personal lusts.

A wonderfully stable life you can predict 40 years into the future.

Too bad DDR stopped publishing suicide statistics tho..
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>>28009128

The workers want whatever allows them to live the most comfortably, happily, and peacefully. Call it communism or post-scarcity economics or whatever you want, it's what we're going to end up seeing.

>>28009135

If people under a Soviet democracy didn't want the specific products being produced then, by definition, they would just vote to change them.
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>>28009134
SAME. OLD. COMMIE. SHIT.

They're all the same historical materialist drivel that has been destroyed time and time again since the days of Marx.

>if we call it something different this time and shift from economics to culture, people will fall for it!
Imbeciles.
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>>28009128
This is known to us. The worker's are indeed brainwashed, but not by us but by their masters. Brainwashed through media and the education sytem; capitalists have complete control of the public discourse.

This is why Cletus "hates faggots" and is worried about "mudslimes", all while Gregory would rather sip his mochalattechino and plan the next pride-parade and Ahmed dreams of blowing his damn self up to kill the "infidels". Divide and conquer - it's the oldest trick in the book and we all keep falling for it.
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>>28007513
>Anarcho-Nationalist

You are retarded and you are just as bad as these gommunism edgy fucks.

10/10 you made me have an aneurysm
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>>28009244
Communism inherently destroys wealth, lowering living standards for everyone. Post scarcity is as impossible as perpetual motion. Reality is not on your side, friend.
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>>28008946
>"Not really"

Besides, the Western support for SDF is half assed because of Turkey. Not worth giving full allegiance over.

But if the main cookie was presented : A 100%% guaranteed Nation State on the condition of no more red stars - I'd bet even the resident Kurdish redposter would give up is "ideology" in a heartbeat.
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>>28009256
But... modern social democrats aren't relying on historical materialism though? I mean, your argument is basically "it's the same because I say it is" - you've offered no analysis on why or even how social democracy is the same as communism.

They're the same to you in that you hate both. But I hate both pop-music and rap; I'm not about the claim they are the same thing, tough.
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>>28009075
Yeah, the political climate is definitely becoming more polarized. It reminds me of the situation in a certain European country in the 1920s...
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>>28009311
The most amount of material support and airstrikes have been in support of SDF. They are still governing with a far left ideology.

You can just throw a contradiction out there without any reasoning or evidence to back it up, but it wont stick. The truth is out there, and it proves you wrong.

Also, im the "resident Kurdish redposter".
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>>28009259
>The worker's are indeed brainwashed, but not by us but by their masters
LEL what is this, medieval europe? You're a gorillion years late, tovarisch. There are no 'masters' anymore, if you don't like your boss, just quit :^)

>Brainwashed through media
Yeah, we should let the central workers' council do away with this bourgeois TV shows and replace it with something worker-y and non-bourgeois. Fuck options. Fuck choice. The stupid mules can't possibly know what good TV is.

And how dare those retarded rednecks, muslims and hipsters not get along!? It's as if they have different worldviews! We need to put an end to that. Get along or else, you lowly mules!
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>>28007911
Congrats. Both are states. Anarchism removes this.
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>>28009323
>modern social democrats aren't relying on historical materialism though
Social justice relies heavily on historical materialism.
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>>28009244
>If people under a Soviet democracy didn't want the specific products being produced then, by definition, they would just vote to change them.

For maximum efficency this has to go through a government apparatus. Just contacting a producer/vendor directly and ordering whatever you want for the money you have earned is a vastly inferior to this.
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>>28009423
Explain how. IMO the LACK of historical materialism in half the reason sjws are so annoying.

>>28009397
Yeah I never said any of that. Sorry for your life, though. Enjoy Trump 2016-2024.
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>>28006581
The really sad truth is that niggers have an average IQ that's 15 points below the average white person and advertising works on stupid people the best.
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>>28009383
>The truth is out there, and it proves you wrong.
In my opinion it proves me right as the Kurdish struggle seems no different from others of its kind.

Tit for tat - ideological validation for the big guys, material support for the small.

For example, Fidel Castro is on video with "We are not communists" while he was still on the fence after the Cuban revolution. It's on YouTube even.
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>>28009526
>IQ
*tips fedora*
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>>28009630
But it is. Have you seen how the people are treated by the SDF? In terms of how the people are treated its literally the best government in the Middle East. Some SDF soldiers have been imprisoned for destroying property while rebels and SAA soldiers can rape and kill without reprecussions.
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>>28009740
Every single faction has made that claim about themselves you just did. Even ISIS.

Sure, it's good and proper that you cheer for your team and cheer for the cause, but out here I don't see the "the good, the bad, the ugly" distinction.

Just war between tribes of mechanized infantry and light infantry.

I just don't have faith in the existance of "noble actors" in any setting.
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>>28010012
You dont understand. Not one war crime has been committed on the part of the SDF. It is verifiable by facts, this is not just an empty claim.
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>>28008921
Ah yes ofc, let's try again and impose a NEW socialist government, that sure will work
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>>28006851

Yeah, it really sucks. Communism makes plenty of slaves here in one's own country to keep the economy afloat, so that's a bonus.
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>>28009295

Fug man, I wish that we could just split the States off into separate governments where people who want a communist society can go to California, people who want a neocon can go to Texas, people who want anarchy can go to Kansas, etc. Let the believers experience the consequences of their beliefs, for better or for worse.
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>>28009383
Good luck mate! Kurds and Iranians the god tier of the Middle East.
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>>28010519
I wish we could shoot traitors in the face without consequences.
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>>28010667
Thanks man, i really appreciate it when people support us
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