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>style and how you present yourself
>just groom
>buy nice clothes
>get a beard and glasses
>just watch rsdnation/pua videos bro!!! :DDD
jesus fucking christ
whats next? Not all women are whores?
>some people are naturally attractive, that means other people can't improve their own looks by changing their style
Goddamn some of you think and act like 13 year olds.
>>27980376
>improve
>changing style
yikes
>>27980392
solid argument brah
>>27980376
They can, but the improvements are marginal. If you work hard to improve from 1.0 to 1.5, while Chad gets born a 7 and can work his way up to being a 9 that's fucking bullshit and no one would accept that. No one rational that is.
>>27980574
ugly guy that takes care of himself=UGLY guy that takes care of himself
clothes wont change shit
if you dont have the face just give up
>>27980616
you're wrong. you just want an excuse to dress like shit
>>27980340
The mental inconsistencies of the Robot
Tell them:
>"Change how you dress"
>"Change your hair"
>"Change your body with exercise"
>"Change your mental outlook"
>"Change how you speak with other people"
Their reply?
>WAAAAAH! No one can do all that!"
the very next thread the same robot will say
>"Fuckin' normies; their only advice is 'be yourself'"
No wonder they fail at everything
>>27980616
O RLY?!?!
I have a few pics that prove you wrong, sirrah
>>27981022
prove what? He is ugly as shit
>>27981041
yeah, and he fucks supermodels and Hollywood starlets who love his 'sense of style'
>>27980993
The mental inconsistencies of the Normie
Tell them:
>"You can't change your height"
>"You can't change your bone structure"
>"You can't change your dick size"
>"You can't change your genes"
>"WAAAAAH! You're just making excuses"
>But it's true though.
>"WAAAH EXCUSES EXCUSES LALALALAL CAN'T HEAR YOU LALALLALA EXCUSES"
No wonder no one takes their "advice" seriously.
>>27981075
everyone with status and money can fuck anything you dumb fucking imbecil..
if he wasnt a famous singer or whatever he is he'd be jerking off to lolis
>>27981022
He gets the ladies because he has a beautiful voice, is a great writer and is successful. If you were a famous musician you'd get the ladies too
>>27981022
Anecdotal evidence is not evidence.
>>27981101
>fucks famous supermodels and actresses worth 2x to 30x more money than he will ever have
>robot says 'it is his money'
so what you and
>>27981103
yoou are saying is that if you learned to play guitar you could get laid?
Yeah - that's the fucking point, you morons.
IMPROVE yourself and you can get laid by higher quality women.
>>27981119
What have the robots got other than
>"WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
?
>>27981187
not everyone that plays the guitar has STATUS AND MONEY YOU FUCKING IMBECIL
>>27981088
>Mention all of the things you CAN change
>robots only talk about things they can't
keep crying, sissy
>>27981207
So instead of countering the point you just say I'm whining? And normies wonder why we don't take them seriously.
>>27981209
Status?
>immaterial - men of lower sttus obviously get women of higher status
Money?
>immaterial - men can and do fuck and even marry women with much more money
Want to keep trying, loser?
>>27981247
If there are people who will have better life just because they got lucky even if you work hard and they don't. Then working hard really doesn't make sense. Does it. It's not fair. And I don't care if you say I'm whining. To accept this and work hard irregardless would be taking it up the ass by normies. I'd rather be considered a whiner by normies than be their bitch.
>>27981279
no they don't you fucking idiot. you're fulk of shit anc you know it. get raped by niggers
>>27981279
i hope you are trolling
>>27981284
>Somebody somewhere will have a better life than I do
Sure. Absolutely. I know, for a fact, there are plenty of good looking guys that feel that way, rich guys, successful guys, etc. Someone, somewhere is better off than you, just like someone is worse off.
>Then working hard really doesn't make sense. Does it.
That doesn't follow. At all. You are switching from
>talking about other people
to
>talking about yourself
.
here, let me show you
>'No matter what, someone else will always be richer'
sure
>'So why would I bust my ass to only be a millionaire?'
Huh? No!
Someone else is better looking than you?
Sure.
and - so what?
Do you honestly
A) only evaluate yourself compared to other people
and
B) not even try if you can't be the absolute best
?
That's crazy!
If I told you that if you just spent 2 hours a week doing something boring it could make you a millionaire in 5 years, would you do it or say 'nayh, people will be richer'?
Do you think taking the time to buy clothes that match is 'hard work'?
>To accept this and work hard irregardless would be taking it up the ass by normies
So you honestly think getting better at things is 'getting fucked over'?
Here's a hint - see that guy in OP's pic?
Those muscles take work. That haircut didn't happen by accident.
If he were to stop going to the gym and skip haircuts for 6 months he'd be hideous.
But he works at it, *improves himself*, and you are jealous thereby.
You aren't
>being sensible
you are
>deluding yourself to justify laziness
Macimate the guy in the OP has impotency and couldnt fuck a hot girl in his bed. He's incel too.
>>27981323
Nice argument, loser
Maybe you don't leave the house, but others do
>>27981495
you fucking IDIOT
if you take out the haircut and the body the guy is still 20 times betterlooking than you after your "GROOMING" and "WORKING OUT"
YOU LOST AT THE START
YOU ARE AN INFERIOR GENETIC WASTE
ACCEPT IT
>>27981347
Is it a ton easier for a rich man or a famous man to get laid?
Sure!
But poor men fuck rich women and nobodies fuck famous women. Ugly men fuck hot women and short men fuck tall women.
If you want to you can overcome almost any obstacle.
Or are you saying you're worse of than ol' Nicky?
>>27980376
That's because most of this board is teenagers.
>>27981495
>Do you honestly
>A) only evaluate yourself compared to other people
>and
>B) not even try if you can't be the absolute best
A) Yes
B) Yes, otherwise my work is just wasted. Why work when your effort is at least partially wasted?
>If I told you that if you just spent 2 hours a week doing something boring it could make you a millionaire in 5 years
Sounds like something I'd read on a pop-up advertisement.
>Here's a hint - see that guy in OP's pic?
Yeah I see a guy with a good jawline, well developed face, broad shoulders(although this could be the angle) and likely not a manlet. If he got succesful it was because he was lucky.
If he was inferior he would maybe not even get lucky. Because hard work is a necessary condition, but not a sufficient one.
>>27981531
Like the guy in this pic?
>>27981022
Tell me again how he'll never marry a woman worth $150 million that is a top hollywood actress when he is an obscure musician starting his career?
I mean, he's ugly and, according to you, nothing can overcome that.
>>27981591
>A) Yes
>B) Yes, otherwise my work is just wasted. Why work when your effort is at least partially wasted?
>If he was inferior he would maybe not even get lucky. Because hard work is a necessary condition, but not a sufficient one.
We have the same life philosophy brobot.
>>27981569
What's with these retards lately who post outliers thinking they prove a point. They don't. You probably don't understand, so let me explain.
You see the pic I posted? You know who that is? That's Sean Lloyd. He won the lottery, he got 1.8 million pounds. Have you won the lottery? You didn't? Why? Sean did it. Are you really telling me you can't do what Sean did? Yeah, keep making excuses.
>>27981518
Rushdie is a world renowned author his status is a huge part of his appeal.
>>27981591
>hard work is a necessary condition, but not a sufficient one.
You do know what 'necessary' means in the context you're using it, right?
You are essentially admitting you are a failure because you quit!
>Why work when your effort is at least partially wasted?
Proves you aren't as smart as you think you are
>Why cook dinner if this dish isn't the best ever?
Result? Malnutrition
>Why make money if I can't have the most ever?
result? Penury
>Why have sex if it isn't the best ever?
Result? Celibacy
etc.
>>27981688
He won because he played though. Can't win if you don't play. Also the odds are a lot better than an actual lottery.
>if you fuck a woman your self-worth will go up
>people that fuck escorts feel like absolute shit even if they fuck 9s constantly
ugliness is a curse and people that have it should get euthanized
>>27981683
I'd actually really like to not believe in it. Because it's considered toxic and is making me miserable. But it's the truth, I've never seen anyone being able to deny it. Best I got was
>it's how it is
>just don't worry about it bro
>just occupy yourself with something
>don't think about it
It means ignoring the truth? That's not something I can do. If I can't be honest to myself, then what's the point?
>>27981749
there is no point
just get laid with a 3/10 woman and start opening delusional threads like this guy
>>27981640
>>27981569
>>27981518
>>27981749
So what all life is failure the material world is temporary pain and pleasure.
>10% body fat!
>the latest fashion shit, don't wear kid clothes loser!
>a nice haircut, SHAVE YOUR HEAD AND GROW A BEARD!
>get contacts!
>LIFT 4 YEAR
>JAW CORRECTION SURGERY!
>ACNE TREATMENT
>YOUR TEETH MUST BE STRAIGHT
>Didn't work? Must be your shitty personality lul tough luck!
>>27981688
You are conflating things that are up to chance with things that are possible with effort.
See, Nicky didn't get his wife by rolling dice and getting a 7, he did it by meeting people, being a good person, etc.
this guy
>>27981518
this guy
>>27981279
and this guy
>>27981022
Didn't get rich or married by tossing a coin, they achieved it through their own effort.
I'm talking about guys who climbed a hill and you think I am talking about guys hit by lightning.
Very different things.
>>27981715
>You do know what 'necessary' means in the context you're using it, right?
>You are essentially admitting you are a failure because you quit!
It means that if I didn't quit I still could(and likely would) end up being a failure. So yes, I am more than happy to admit that.
>Proves you aren't as smart as you think you are
Yeah, intelligence usually goes hand-in-hand with attractiveness. And boy, am I ugly.
I don't see what's so dumb about the examples you mentioned. Does it not make sense? Whether it's self-desctructive or not isn't relevant here. Just tell me, can you disprove what I've said?
whats with the 9gag tier images with captions
>>27981777
Trips of truth.
>>27981795
Not for a Chad. Or for people who got lucky. I didn't get lucky. It's not fair. I'm not going to accept that.
>>27981749
It is a ridiculous position that has nothing to do with personal success.
It is 'sour grapes' as a lifestyle
>>27981801
>See, Nicky didn't get his wife by rolling dice and getting a 7, he did it by meeting people, being a good person, etc.
So it's not true that it's very unlikely for men with no limbs to get a wife?
>>27981518
No idea who this is.
Actually your whole post is just world fallacy. Not worth replying to further.
>>27981833
Yeah of course it's sour grapes. If I got born tall, good looking etc my life could have been so much better. But I didn't and now I'm expected to work hard on things I can change to compensate for getting fucked over.
All of this while people around me constently treat me worse because of my looks(this is well documented - just read about halo effect). Only a retard would accept this with a smile on his face.
>>27981828
Even Chads die then the fun ride is over.
>>27981932
>we all die at the end meme
how ugly are you
>>27981943
I am a hideous mistake of a human being
it should have already been illegal to give birth to humans as repulsive as I
>>27981806
What, this stupidity?
>Why work when your effort is at least partially wasted?
It is self-refuting because you are comparing work on yourself with the ephemeral status of others.
Here is an example
>Judges like houses - the more they like it, the more money you get in prizes
>You neighbor has a brand-new house
>Your house is nine years old with original paint
>Someone says 'if you paint your house it will be more attractive to the judges'
>Your reply is 'but the neighbor's house is brand new! No matter how much I paint my house will be old. I bet the judges only like new houses. If I can't make MORE prize money than my neighbor some of my effort will be wasted. I won't bother to paint"
The error is in switching between your neighbor's house and your own.
Painting your house will improve your prize money so that effort cannot be 'wasted' compared to what happens with your neighbor because your personal return is not associated with your neighbor.
YOUR work will give YOU returns; those returns are not affected by your neighbor or his efforts. Therefore, his existence cannot 'waste' your labor.
>>27981932
Well if you don't understand the difference between living a good life and living a bad life and your only excuse is that we all die in the end, then you must be out of your fucking mind.
>>27981973
>YOUR work will give YOU returns; those returns are not affected by your neighbor or his efforts.
But they are you fucking retard. It's a competition. That's like saying that in a running race it doesn't matter how fast others are running, because if you run as fast as you can, then you win. Do you see just how retarded this is?
>>27981943
im 25 and a KV
>>27981977
im religious
>>27981879
>So it's not true that it's very unlikely for men with no limbs to get a wife?
Again, 'getting a wife' is not a game of chance! Further, are you claiming that any obstacles to success you have are more severe than Nick's or others?
>>27981879
>just world fallacy
Stop misusing terms.
The initial claims were
>effort cannot get results
I am pointing out that this is a ridiculous position.
>>27982050
>The initial claims were
>effort cannot get results
Really? I'd like you to point out where exactly have I said these exact words. Actually, I'd like yo to point where anyone said these exact words ITT.
Strawmanning retarded normie.
>>27981900
Lying down in the ditch to die alone is a rather extreme reaction to the suggestion that you learn how to comb your hair
>>27982031
>Again, 'getting a wife' is not a game of chance!
It is. Some men try and always fail. What's the difference then? Has it been determined somehow?
>Further, are you claiming that any obstacles to success you have are more severe than Nick's or others?
Where exactly have I claimed that? I'd like a quote.
>>27982096
Yeah, just keep arguing with extremes. But we both know it isn't helping your "point".
>>27982027
>switching back and forth between yourself and others - again
>thinking life is a zero-sum game
I'm not sure if you;re deluded and bitter or just retarded.
another example
>Joe is born into a rich family and is given $1,000,000 to invest in a fund with a 10% annual return
>Frank works hard for a few years, saves up $100,000, wants to invest it - see the fund with a 10% annual return
According to your "logis" Frank shouldn't bother because if he does invest he'll only get back $10,000 while Joe gets back $100,000.
The problem with that fallacious thinking is - Frank still gets $10,000 that he didn't have before.
See, Joe's returns do not diminish Frank's but if Frank doesn't invest he gets NOTHING back.
>>27982222
Frank is a fucking retard if he works hard. He works to get what Joe had from the start. He is letting himself be humiliated. He is a weak beta faggot. Just the type that society loves. The ones who work hard even if they get treated like shit. He deserves to die. I'd rather be nothing than accept being inferior.
>>27982092
see
>>27980340
>>27980616
>>27981088
>>27981531
that's just the first half of the thread, fuckwit
>>27981707
That is his wife from before he was published
>>27982278
Yeah except these words haven't been said in these posts. Retard.
>>27982153
My point is
>if you change you can get better
>If you get better, you're more likely to succeed
the only thing approaching a reply is
>if someone, somewhere, is better off it isn't worth it to improve
>>27981088
Most normies don't believe in PUA and shit. It's only betas and other scam artist victims.
>>27982265
>He deserves to die. I'd rather be nothing than accept being inferior.
The level of retarded in you is off the charts. It's a good thing you'll never breed.
>>27982265
>I'd rather be nothing than accept being inferior.
So rather than be 'lesser' you want to be 'least'?
If you can't be a 10/10 in EVERYTHING you want to be a 1/10 in everything?
Well. At least now we all know why you are where you are.
>>27982327
But someone else gets the "better" things just by being alive. What kind of retard would accept that without being angry? It's not fair. I don't see why accepting that the world is unfair is considered sensible. It makes no fucking sense to me.
>>27982331
Yeah well if you actually tried to prove me wrong instead. But you can't. So you just insult me.
>>27982310
You're the guy that thought if he typed 'just world fallacy' it might impress someone, aren't you?
>>27982374
Yes. There is a big difference between trying hard and losing(not being a 10/10) and never trying and losing by default. Never trying is better, this should be fairly obvious.
>>27982395
>I don't see why accepting that the world is unfair is considered sensible. It makes no fucking sense to me.
Because refusing to accept reality is called 'insanity'.
>>27982395
>Yeah well if you actually tried to prove me wrong instead.
You posted your personal preference, not an argument.
You can't 'prove that wrong'.
You can judge it, though
>>27982464
You say it like it's something that can't be changed. Like it's something god-given. But it's people, it's normies, it's retards like you who enforce the hierarchy and treat people who are inferior like shit. It's your fault.
>>27982489
I don't give a shit about your judgement. Either tell me why my prefference doesn't make sense, or, well you might as well not be saying anything.
>>27981088
>Can't change your height
Your clothes can have an effect on how tall you appear you dolt. Maybe don't dress like a dumpy breadloaf.
>You can't change your bone structure
True but most robots covered their bone structure in fat at age 10. They have no idea what they actually look like.
>You can't change your dick size.
Once you're over 5 inches your fine. Stop believing everything you see in porn you moron.
>You can't change your genes
You CAN use them to your advantage.
>>27982637
You haven't disproven anything I've said. You know that, right?
>>27982670
I wasn't trying to. I was giving you known and simple solution to problems you've made up in your tiny, lazy mind as an excuse to be miserable.
But, stay miserable if you want.
>>27982738
So how exactly does dressing better fix being short? It doesn't. You're still short.
Lyle Lovett has a very attractive face though, just goofy hair.
>>27982780
Either you wear things that make you appear taller or you wear things that suit your height. Either way you look well put together and it takes away from the downside of you being a manlet.
Use your fuckin brain
