>Islam forbids the charging of interest
>Until a few hundred years ago, charging interest was also forbidden in the Christian world and was even punishable by death
>It was considered exploitation and enslavement
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-A0eem5ON6Q
>>27960548
How and why did we allow financial speculation to become legal and socially accepted?
Somebody give me ONE legit reason why charging interest is not essentially legalized Debt Slavery?pls no international bankers or Zionist shills ITT
You're are an idiot or a troll. Interest is absolutely needed for loans.
>1. There's a risk the loan isn't repaid.
>2. Inflation.
>3. A dollar today is better than a dollar tomorrow, by how much is debatable but all things being equal, having money sooner is better.
Interest is compensation for these factors. Without this compensation, it makes no sense for anyone to loan money.
That's not all, loans are essential for society to function properly. Businesses need to make things. Making things almost always needs upfront investment to be repaid later. For example, think of something simple like a farm. The farmer needs machinery, seeds, labor, and so on. These things cost money upfront. Later the farmer harvests the crops, sells them, then can repay. If the loan mechanism didn't exist, none of this could have happened.
>>27960917
shekelburgenstein detected
How would loans work if you didn't have a reason to pay them off as fast as possible?
>>27960548
british and american protestantism; the defeat of the axis powers
>>27960917
>2. Inflation.
>3. A dollar today is better than a dollar tomorrow
Deflation could happen too.
>>27960967
if members of a society don't trust each other to repay loans, things have already started going down the toilet
>>27960972
Off the top of my head, the only time that has ever happened is when the Japanese economy tanked. An exception does not make the rule, don't be an idiot.
>>27960970
>implying the axis powers weren't financed by the Anglo-American banking mafia
>>27961076
they weren't though
>>27961011
>people who question unfair and degenerate economic systems are "stupid" and "idiots"
>>27960997
Again, what incentive is there to pay it off as fast as possible without interest?
Every normie knows someone who they or someone else they know lent money to, only to have to keep badgering to actually get it paid back.
>>27961137
>what is collateral
>>27961137
how come so many societies managed to function for centuries without usury?
with excessive interest, eventually moneylenders end up being owed more money than exists
>>27961118
Think about the computer or smartphone you're using to write your idiotic drivel. The hardware wouldn't exist without loans. Do you really think the early Intel people had the money to build the plants. Of course they didn't you idiot, they took investment that is to say loans. The software wouldn't exist either, doesn't matter if you're using Windows or Apple, both took huge amounts of investment. In case you really want to be stupid and bring up linux, it wouldn't have been possible without the infrastructure that wouldn't have existed without proprietary software.
the real money is neurotransmitters
>>27960917
>2. inflation
Who exactly do you think controls the money supply and, thus, inflation rates?
Who exactly decides that controlling inflation rates on this magic financial speculator's market is more important to devote time, energy and resources to rather than infrastructure projects and such that increase employment and provide a more sustainable living for the masses of the people?
Why should the economies of OUR nations be managed by central banks that are under the anti-democratic, shadowy control of a cabal of international bankers?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbAl__y6mJw
Why the fuck would I lend money at 0 interest? I'd be basically making my money unavailable until I they pay me back, IF they pay me back. And the best case scenario is going back to where I started with no profit.
>>27961292
You're one of those morons who thinks a fixed money supply like a gold standard would be a good thing aren't you? Here's a hint moron, economies expand while there's a finite supply of something like gold. Compare how much gold was mined since the industrial revolution as an example to how much growth there's been since then. What you also don't get is that Inflation has been always been around, your so called "shadow bankers" didn't invent inflation. The banking system does keep inflation in check and for that you should be thanking them. If they didn't do that, idiots like you would just keep printing money like those niggers in Zimbabwe.
If it's the same person who's linking youtube videos, you're doubly stupid. The linking type is too stupid to form their own arguments and instead just regurgitates what other people have said.
>>27961118
>they weren't though
If only you knew how wrong you really were:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN1lTxGZBtw
>>27961478
>buttmad at no opportunity to profit off literal money exchange with no actual labor involved
Gee, I wonder who could be behind this post...
>>27961478
fuck off kike
bloxbloxlbox
>>27961579
>You're one of those morons that worships the gold standard
>gold standard
>gold standard
le ebin strawman!
>inflation has always been around
>it's always been this way
>therefore it must always be this way in the future
even if this were true (for funsies: try to prove that inflation has ALWAYS been around since beginning of recorded history), this does not necessarily imply that central banks manipulating inflation rates is a net positive, or that I should be thankful to my banker overlords
>idiots like you would keep printing money
anuddah strawman!
>like those niggers in Zimbabwe
Ahhh.... venomous, frothing at the mouth, overt race-hatred.
Finally, at least you're upfront about it.
Ask me exactly how I can tell that you're a Zionist or Zionist puppet.
>linking youtube videos
>too stupid to form own arguments
>just regurgitates
Why re-invent the wheel, anon-cuck?
My own words would have expressed the same basic structure of argument, just in a much less eloquent form. If somebody else has already expressed my argument in a much more eloquent form than I am capable of (always been a shitty writer 2bh), why not share their work?
>>27961639
Yeah there's no labour involved, but by lending someone money you're reducing your own available funds. Lending with no interest means literally ZERO advantages to you and a whole host of potential problems as that guy said, whilst the person getting your money receives advantages with zero risk or effort involved. That's not fair.
>>27962171
You weren't forced to loan the money, they asked and you chose to. Basic sense says you that if you're really THAT strapped for cash, you shouldn't loan out enough money to somebody as to put your personal economic situation at serious risk. If you still end up in a bad situation, ask for a loan from a third party sufficient to get you back on your feet. YOU would benefit in this case then from not having to pay back interest on the loan when you finally get back on your feet economically.
>ZERO advantages
what is collateral. what is loaning out money only after somebody has earned your trust. what is even then only loaning out small increments on at least a semi-regular schedule so as to be less risky day to day and easier for the person you loaned money to pay you back, rather than a giant lump sum that would be too tempting to blow away on gambling or drink or prostitution or some other vice.
>>27961639
Would you mind summarizing the video?
>>27960548
I wonder who could POSSIBLY be behind this shift.
>>27962645
jews are only part of the problem
they're just taking advantage of a system that was mostly set up by anglo-saxon christians
>>27962512
Anglo and U.S. old money, plutocrats and financial elites bankrolled fascism ( Hitler, Mussolini, Franco, Hirohito) in order to break the threat of unions and labor/worker's power worldwide. They admired the how fascism was so rationally organized to subjugate the peoples and coordinate the economy so as to further entrench the power of banking elites through such measures as cutting wages by 50 percent, breaking up labor unions and opposition newspapers, abolition or cutting of inheritance taxes for the rich and cartel taxes for the corporations.
Among those who supported fascism with infrastructure and finances were such titans as the GM, Ford, IBM, Standard Oil, DuPont and even Prescott Bush (grandfather of George W. Bush).
In the U.S. itself, there was a plot to overthrow FDR in a fascist coup that involved top military officers and plutocrats. General Smedley Butler of the Marine Corps exposed this to a congressional committee and revealed that the conspirators tried to persuade him to lead their planned coup.
Britain and the U.S. only went to war against the Axis because the Axis started to directly threaten Anglo and U.S. economic and geo-strategic interests. Otherwise, they very likely would have not cared and given the Axis free reign to fuck up their corner of the globe as much as they wanted.
>>27962851
>started to directly threaten Anglo and U.S. economic and geo-strategic interests
By this, of course, I mean the interests of the plutocratic Anglo-U.S. elites who bankrolled the Axis in the first place, as to be kept distinct from the interests of the general populations of those countries (Britain plus U.S.).
Just clarifying.
>>27962677
>set up by anglo-saxon christians
interesting. color me curious.
mind posting some links?
videos?
books?
pdfs?
here for more intellectual circle-jerk
>>27960548
>tfw yet another reason to consider Islam
I mean, it's literally like the cure for every disease that ails western civilization.
>tfw you learn that usury has been fought by great leaders from Christ to Hitler
>tfw there were heroes before us and there will be heroes again to fight debt slavery
>>27962851
National Socialism =/= Fascism, and although Hitler might have accepted money from the zionist bankers, he certainly didn't follow their rules. You obviously don't know shit, seeing as how NS was beyond even a political ideology; it was a religion with Hitler as its founder.
>>27964161
>National Socialism =/= fascism
Kek, try harder fedora cuck.
Nazism is LITERALLY fascism plus more specific attention paid to assbackwards delusional interpretations of DarwinIan evolutionary theory and /x/-tier ideas of Germanic racialism and occult myth, which are just tools of false consciousness and false populism to blind the people from realizing they are being daylight robbed and bled dry by the plutocratic banking elite.
>>27964467
*Darwinian
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use.
Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
:^)ORIGINALISMO
>>27962851
>britain and the u.s. only went to war against the axis because the axis started to directly threaten anglo and u.s. economic and geo-strategic interests.
you could also argue the reverse was true
>>27963049
Corporations and modern free-market capitalism were developed in the U.S. and Britain, by ethnically British men. I assumed this was common knowledge. Adam Smith is one of the most famous theorists, guess you could start there.
>>27964973
Thanks. Wealth of Nations is a good starting point then?
>>27962851
>literally a 14yo liberal anarchist retard.
Firstly, fascism and hiterarian Ns were a labor movement that improves the workers life dramatically. Secondly, communism is slavery and death and destroyed russia.
Fascism gave way to an incredible ampunt of inventions and technology snd labor techneques we use today in the commercial market and in workers rights. Commmunism merely enslaved people to the jews.
I mean seriously, if you cant understand thst a loan is payed back with no interest because of a good relationship then you are a dishonest heeb!
>>27964841
i wish this made sense to me but it doesn't
>>27965353
>fascism and nazism
>a labor movement
Stopped reading right there
>>27965427
Not reading it doesn't make it any less true.
>>27965473
You dumbfuck, cuck.
I actually did read it all.
STILL doesn't make your claims any less bullshit.
You cock suck fascism for supposedly being a "labor movement" and yet in the same breath, try to justify the usury based enslavement of the worker to the cabal of international bankers.
Do you even read what you write before you post, baka?
>>27961252
>what is a shareholder
