Alright, nu-males and white knights and femanons. Here's a challenge for you:
For each of the following fields make a list of the 10 greatest males in them:
>poetry, art, literature, sports, philosophy, science, math, politics
Now do the same again, but this time with the 10 greatest females.
Done? (You are allowed to use google if you can't think of enough females.)
Now "merge" the lists for each field into a list of the 10 greatest _persons_.
Here comes the moment of enlightening insight:
How many females are left in these final lists?
Kek, he really don't realize that the women weren't allowed in most of that fields 100 years ago
>>27934464
well that has a reason
>>27934464
It didn't seem to do us much harm though, did it? Things have regressed considerably since then
>>27934464
Upper class women usually had pianos and were taught all kinds of instruments. Along with the instruments and spare time they could have written truly good music.
Schopenhauer's mother was a writer. She outselled Goethe. Now who do we remember?
What barred women from picking up a pen and paper, a brush and colors, to create something? Most artists were miserable and poor: there's no excuse. You can't say society was banning you from art and creative expression. Most art was done in obscurity, because society usually doesn't give a shit whether you write a good book - only after some time has passed people re-evaluate your work.
>>27934464
Then restrict yourself to the 20th century. Surely in modern time and without "oppression" there should be more influential females. I'm waiting.
Amalie Noether
By the way dipshit, the mbti was developed by two women.
>be black
>don't worry about this because it's not as if i'd be curing diseases and discovering time travel even if i were male
>>27934826
and the entire rest of society and all the shit save for a handful, was invented by men. Now, how about a thank you, u entitled cunt?
>>27934779
C'mon man do you really deny that opression against grills have ever existed ?
>>27934878
You are an undereducated shitstain. A speck in a wave of ignorance.
>>27934826
So you can only think of 1 (in words: ONE) woman who positively contributed to math? In a list of all great mathematicians (regardless of gender) where do you think she'd rank?
>>27934826
>mbti
Oh yeah? Was astrology also invented by women? How about esoteric healing, scientology and homeopathy?
>>27934918
>dont have a right to vote
>has a right to not work and let their man pay for 100% of everything
>all they have to do is cook and take care of kids
>oppressed
wew lad
Alright, I concede.
Do the same challenge with sandniggers living under islamic repression instead of women.
Deus Vult, roachie.
>>27934964
Using insults instead of arguments is very feminine. A male would come up with a civilized and rational rebuttal.
>>27935011
Hhhh...Einstein was a fan of hers. So pretty high up there I guess.
Google 10 greater female mathematicians and figure it out for yourself.
>>27935048
The mbti is used by corporations to best figure out how people work together. Is data science like astrology because it wasn't created by academics?
>>27935063
Not having right to vote : something good
(?)
>science
>relevant
f'dora
>>27935067
Challenge accepted.
Alhacen created the goddamn scientific method.
>>27935202
I sure as fuck wouldn't work for a corporation that takes mbti seriously.
>>27935266
Oh no. What a blow for them and the mbti.
>>27935262
Science is irrelevant, though.
It's a long-dead ideology that doesn't even stand to its own tenets.
Stupid seculars.
>>27935262
Keep going, eight fields, ten examples each.
>>27935316
What
The fuck
Are you talking about?
You realize the only reason we're having this conversation is thanks to science, right?
>>27935356
Fuck off. I'm not doing your homework for you.
>>27935408
Okay, you're actually retarded.
Stop reply now, you're stuck in sucking off your ideology and providing answers dependant of acceptance of said ideology.
>mfw roasties get triggered HARD when confronted with the fact that they have no value beyond their cunts
Loving every laugh.
>b-b-but women weren't ALLOWED--
You fucking think men were "allowed" to create art? They lived and died poor and unknown, achieving their fame and respect posthumously. Yet they devoted their lives to art anyway, simply because they loved it so much.
Find me five innovative female artists in the last hundred years and I'll fly over to where you live on my own money and admit to your face that I was wrong. Women cannot create. They merely copy, parrot, and steal. For every one Lorrie Moore there are a hundred million Miranda Julys, just mindlessly copying the work of their male peers and taking credit for it like the fucking parasites they are.
>>27934319
u tried anon
Justinian and Belisarius were history's greatest cucks.
Copious herbs for you OP.
>>27935315
A corporation relying on pseudoscience will not survive for long.
>>27935532
>MUH LE SCIENCE!!!!
>>27935459
Sophie Treadwell was throwing a real curveball with Machinal. But most art is built upon a foundation of inspiration, I can't think of any male artists who just invented a whole new thing out of nowhere either.
>>27935011
She might make top 10. She's easily the greatest female mathematician. No other female is a plausible candidate for top 10.
>>27935459
>Find me five innovative female artists in the last hundred years
Alright, let's start with this one.
>>27934319
Who are you talking about? descartes? da vinci? poor fellas. most of artist were fucking Rich nobles, or sponsored
>>27934826
The mbti was developed out of carl jungs theory though
>>27935459
so then why does half of this board hate the charming and outgoing chad that's running his own business?
>>27935452
IT'S NOT AN IDEOLOGY
It is a massive body of knowledge assembled through the scientific method! There are no tenets beyond the steps of the scientific method!
Are you Muslim? Do you realize your ancestors helped birth modern science?!
>all these triggered cunt holes and beta orbiters ITT
>>27934712
Ramanujan is probably a top 10 mathematician and he was doing great work in poverty for years before he got any recognition.
>>27935679
Yes, it is an ideology. Stop trolling now.
>>27935728
The only ideology behind science is assuming that the world can be understood. The alternative is far worse.
>>27935780
>the alternative is worse becuz muh ideology
>its only one ideology becuz muh ideology how dare you speak against it!!!!?!1111
>>27935820
Ideology is judged by the results. You are implicitly accepting the results of science by depending on it to survive (and use 4chan).
>>27935820
Science is an objective method of gaining knowledge.
>>27935459
The poor artist meme needs to die. Without even touching the main argument of the thread, people here keep acting like every great artist from the past was penniless. People just agree with that statement thinking of people like Van Gogh, I guess but Van Gogh had a fucking education and shit, and family members that were artists. He was just fucking nuts. He wasn't some miner who started working on the side. Most artists that we know about now were in the upper class, or got a patron of some sort.
>>27935851
>ideology is judged by its results
This is the ideology I'm talking about, that you make the norm.
>>27935860
Go back to Rddit, please.
>objective
Why is this good or true, why do you think 'does not stand up to itself' still make something objective?
>>27935728
Wait, are you a Muslim? And you don't believe in science? Jesus, the bitter irony of it all. What about the concept of ilm? Are you aware of that?
>>27935866
Van Gogh? The same Van Gogh who literally only sold one painting throughout his entire life and soon killed himself? Yeah, he was quite the success story.
>>27935594
>this is what qualifies as female """"""""""art""""""""""
>>27936016
We can literally observe that science is true. Stay mad, retard.
>>27935626
Do you think they were sponsored artists before or after they perfected their craft?
>>27936034
Maybe I wasn't clear enough in my post. I used him as an example of someone who died poor. My point was saying he didn't start out poor and that a lot of his problems were because he was crazy.
>>27936107
We literally can not. Science is not true or false, it's something you do to figure out if things are true or false.
>>27936189
Lel, do you even logic?
>>27936248
"Science is true" is literally meaningless. It's like saying "walking is true". You could say "science is effective" instead.
>>27936107
>science confirms science
Back to rddit.
>>27936248
>le logic is right cuz muh ideology sez so!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! le science fuck yeah!!!!!!!!!fuck!!!!!!!!!
>>27936272
>effective
Empiricism confirms empiricism, you say?
>>27936692
Please redpill me. What do you believe in? What is the meaning of life? What is reality made of?
>>27935679
triggered hahahah
fucking normie redditor using "!"
>>27936750
Empiricist questions.
>>27936785
Too hard to answer for you? Fucking pleb.
>>27936847
>le epic pleb meme
>le two hard xDDdDdd
>>27936874
>le "I try to distract myself from my depression by shitposting on 4chan" meme
>>27936758
I am a redditor, but I'm also an old /b/tard circa 2005. And I'm not that pissed off. It's a happy rage. But let's imagine your ancestors for a second: laying the groundwork for Europe's enlightenment. Do you think they'd be proud of you right now?
