ETERNAL REMINDER that if you're part of the 99.999% who don't own private property you have no reason to not support going FULL COMMUNISM
ETERNAL REMINDER that capitalism relies on worker exploitation to survive, and it's beginning to quickly regress into feudalism (such as fracking companies forcibly seizing people's property in England)
ETERNAL REMINDER that Communism is the true beta uprising because Its about the overthrow of normie capitalism that normies thrive off of. Normies love social darwinism even though Darwin himself was against it and the survival of the fittest says that it's the ones who adapt the most to their environment, not the smartest or strongest who survive
ETERNAL REMINDER that capitalism has failed worse than communism ever has with all of the wealth going into the hands of a small elite
>But communism failed before!
So did most slave rebellions, and so did most independent republics for thousands of years before the French Revolution.
>But I'll surely be rich in the future!
No you won't, the best you'll ever get is a middle-class life where you will still always be a wageslave and one paycheck away from poverty and homelessness.
>But muh calvanism, if people fail they're meant to!
Go live in a forest and fight for survival from predators much larger than you if you think that's what life should be about. Everything that is going to survive is cooperation, not competition. The winner's glory moment will be a pale memory in history.
>But Communism killed so many people!
Those people were going against the community. Maybe those fags should stop hogging the crop. Most of the people that the red army killed were people using slave labor.
Society > the individual
>>27933483
>Those people were going against the community
Jesus, commies really are sociopaths
>>27933483
fuck off faggot, dumb poor plebs like you are so fucking pathetic and need to die.
I like how /pol/fags whine about COMMUNISM KILLING SEVENTY FIVE BAJILLION TRILLION PEOPLE IN ONE DAY and then make a thousand jokes about the Holocaust and killing niggers.
>>27933545
And the people going against the community aren't?
>>27933569
killing niggers and the holocaust was good tho.....
>>27933574
Resisting evil isn't sociopathic
>>27933591
Exactly, fucking retards.
>it's good when WE do it
>>27933591
So was killing Kulaks and aristocrats, from my point of view.
>>27933483
the problem is poor people are as much assholes as rich peopleand even if they are the lesser evil, it is never the poor who lead the revolution
>>27933483
>the best you'll ever get is a middle-class life where you will still always be a wageslave and one paycheck away from poverty and homelessness.
this pretty much. capitalism is a social lottery, communism enslaves everyone equally.
>>27933602
>i-it's evil because i say so
>>27933609
>>27933604
is it because you are so fucking poor and retarded to be successful, and so blame your fucking worthless existence on other people ?
>>27933545
How is punishing someone trying to destroy or exploit the community for his own gain sadism? If anything its the opposite.
If this was true its still better than capitalist greed and sadism.
>>27933676
Communism is based on a great lie, the promise of power for the people. Yet power inevitably ends up in the hands of a fascist elite and the people end up more oppressed than ever
I don't blame people for not buying into the pretentious, complicated theory shit that comes with modern Communism (intersectionalism, transgenderism, muh oppressive speech, etc.) and I don't consider myself communist, but it's pretty pathetic when working class people defend the capitalists and froth at the mouth about "muh bootstraps" and "muh self-made man"
>>27933691
*I meant sociopathy**)(&
>>27933712
>Fascism means whatever I want it to mean.
Every time.
I love how accepted the simple fact that your employer is always going to make more money off your work than you are is.
With true communism a better standard of living could be achieved for more people without relying the standard of living someone deserves on the job they do.
>>27933717
Heres one of these so called "self made" men
He's so self made he's never worked a day in his life and screams about working hard in front of a camera all day
>>27933745
Face it, communism and fascism end up being exactly the same, vicious dictatorships where the rights of ordinary people are trampled on.
>>27933483
shut up americunt, you don't know the horrors of communism
don't get me wrong, communism on paper is the greatest thing ever but people in power, well, are in power
communism will work when we'll have an AI leader
>>27933790
Fascism by definition is running a society as if it were a corporation, you dumbfuck
>>27933774
He has a show that revolves around glorious labor. He is glorious.
>>27933798
>communism will work when we'll have an AI leader
That'd be great tbqh. I hope it happens one day. Probably the closest we could get to constructing heaven on earth.
>>27933689
And ladies and gentlemen, the inevitable comment supporting social darwinism.
>Yes when these people uphold a system of exploitation and mass social inequality preventing large parts of the population from having more prosperous lives.
>>27933822
It doesn't really matter how society is run when you're being oppressed, desu. It's all the same shit when you're poor and powerless
>>27933829
>being this delusional
WEW LAD
>>27933863
It's still not fascism
What is the means of production in a post-industrial society?
>>27933774
Mike Rowe is a rich faggot who pretends to work hard jobs for one day and then goes home to his cushy house and luxury sedan. Wouldn't it be so funny if he was shooting an episode of his pleb show when the workers at whatever crap job he'd be talking about started striking? He'd give them some BS argument about "muh bootstraps" and get the shit kicked out of him by some actual blue collar workers.
>>27933798
>>27933829
>implying
The real leader will be whoever programs the AI.
>>27933712
The dictatorship of the proletarians could end up like that but only when the goal of the revolution is that a small political avantgarde should force the change necessary for a communist society.
Instead this could be done by a loose network of independent regions with direct democracy.
>>27933689
I know of only 3 ways to get rich in late capitalism.
1. Inherit it
2. Win the lottery
3. Steal it
>>27933853
> t-the rich man keeping me down although i live in a nice house in safety and the rich man's innovations are what i rely on daily
how evil
>>27933483
Nice false dilemma fallacy you raging autist. :^)
>>27933798
>communism will work when we'll have an AI leader
Actually it will work when capitalists stop commiting imperialism against socialist societies and stop controlling the global financial system and industry.
>>27933908
4. work for it
>>27933925
I live in a fairly large (not mansion sized though) house and am from a well-off family.
I understand that this is not normal and would give this house away if it meant that society could be equal under a communist society because I have a conscious. Plus I hate large houses, All I need is food and internet access.
>>27933483
Nice idea, people are greedy realistically though. It'd only be a matter of time until stalin 2.0 appears and sends everone to the gulag
>>27933888
Anyway, fascism has nothing to with running society as a corporation, you're misunderstanding what corporatism means in the context of fascism and shows you have little understanding of the subject. A corporation in fascism is more like a trade guild, and a corporatist fascist society is by these guilds. But this system was never really put into place anyway, so it's irrelevant.
>>27934016
Honestly all humans on earth need to be exterminated. No race should ever be this intelligent AND have emotions.
>>27933483
I'm a communist in the sense that if some retarded revolution or power grab ever happens I'll have the opportunity to become a dictator or greatly enhance my social position. I'm not ideologically attached to it in any way.
I'd join up with a fascist/reactionary revolutionary group if they had a chance of actually succeeding but that's never going to happen anyway, fascism is dead, which is unfortunate because it's the only ideology I seem to be able to identify with.
As an East Euro if I'm given the option to kill either all commie shits or all the niggers/jews/gypsies/muslims/whatever I'll pick the commies every time.
That is all.
>>27933957
If it's that simple why aren't you rich, and if you are rich, then why are you spending your time here?
>>27933925
Actually I live in a former warsaw pact country in a shitty apartment.
>The local bourgeoisie brutally exploits the working class,
>The neoliberal government has sold our country's wealth to foreign corporations and destroyed the heavy industry causing mass unemployment.
>We are forced to buy only overpriced unreliable shitty western appliances and shitty gmo food.
>The US government is destroying our enviroment through fracking experimentations
Ill have to leave my country to escape unregulated post warsaw pact capitalism. Tell me more about what good capitalism has done to my nation?
>>27933929
Better being an enlightened autist than a sadistic animalist neurotypical bourgeois
>>27933609
How do you feel about Jedi, from your point of view?
>>27934096
if you are poor, why don,t you go out and learn are work? i am rich i got time to kill and watching the plebs is entertaining.
>>27933691
>How is punishing someone trying to destroy or exploit the community for his own gain sadism? If anything its the opposite.
>If this was true its still better than capitalist greed and sadism.
communist in-group policing and punishment might be "better" than capitalist versions of the same but it's still normie bullshit
what's the point of us getting off our asses to support a movement that will inevitably stab us in the back
>>27934112
i don'y give a fuck about your shitty nation desu senpai
>>27934112
>muh communist industry
stop believing the shitty propaganda, subhuman, the industry was producting bad quality stuff and making zero profits, that's why the system collapsed. Fucking idiot.
>>27934157
>I am rich
Are you really rich or do you just think you're rich?
Protip: making 350k a year is not "rich"
>>27933483
PORKY'S END IS NEAR! CAN YOU HEAR THE GUILLOTINES SHARPENING!?
Capitalism sucks but as a robot communism (and yes I understand the difference between communism and socialism) would be terrible. To function in a communist society you'd need to be a normie. All communists do is drink, party, sex, all things us robots can't do. Communists hate tradition and are all feminists, so we would be screwed.
>>27934197
protip: living safely and in shelter, being able to buy food having an internet access isn't poor.
>>27933602
Sociopathy is literally not accepting social norms due to a lack of empathy.
>>27933891
No one can ever answer this. Communism is an outdated ideology based on 19th century economies
>>27933483
already tried it, doesn't work sadly
>communism is a corrupt file
>sovietunion.exe has stopped working
>>27934208
They aren't our guillotines, they're looking a lot like they're about to devour themselves actually. This Panama Papers thing has the elite of every country at each others' throats.
>>27934234
you are a member of the comfortable middle class. Capitalism will devour you first and you will blame yourself for it.
>>27934234
protip: we are living in what is supposed to be the richest country in the world, are you really sure that this is the best any normal person should be able to get here?
>>27934313
and how will capitalism do that?
take my money and belongings i worked for to some useless twat who hasn't worked a day in his life? oh wait that is communism
>I'm a teenager and I know nothing of history or psychology and I believe the world could be a perfect place under communism and everyone could be happy
>>27934307
you don't expect me to think the ruling class is going to sheriff themselves PROPERLY do you?
>>27934185
>The shitty west not buying it due to ideoligy
>Bad quality
Europe and the USA isn't the entire world faggot. My counrty Bulgaria had a thriving agricultural, electronic, shipbuilding, metallurgical, etc. industry that was sold throughout the warsaw pact and the rest of the world, that provided us a source of income, employment, and self sustainability. And unlike some infinitely more developed western countries, we didn't need free american handouts to build it. Now Our industry has either been destroyed to benefit western corporations to sell us overpriced shit or sold at unfavourable terms to said western corporations to their own profit. Mass layoffs during the shitty capitalism made most of our country unemployed and forced to emmigrate or do shitty low level labor for the worst wages in europe.
So shove your capitalism in your american cock -widened ass.
>>27934359
that is literally all these retarded faggots claimming to be communists while living in big houses like >>27933983
>>27934348
If you're working underneath anyone then that's already happening
>>27934209
What if communism transformed our society into one made for robots?
>>27934338
oh yea where am i living ?????? not america
Are there any actual communes in the US that aren't hippy shit? I would totally look into joining one or af the very least a co-op.
>>27934416
im not working "underneath" anyone
>government ownership of all production
I'm not down with this. I think a government's responsibility should be to set boundaries on business and to use taxes as a means to elevate poor people to the position that they can also contribute to the national economy. Robert Reich's model "activist government".
#Bernie2016
>>27934366
I don't think you could overthrow them if you tried, not presently at least.
>>27934371
>Bulgaria
ayyyy so am I
What happened? You demented grandma filled your tiny head with communist propaganda of the good times? Or throught your eyes the ex-commies you vote for became "le bad american puppets"? Fucking subhuman scum.
>>27934467
>bernie
you have to be 18 to post here you retarded faggot
>>27934437
If those things you mentioned are a luxury where you live I regret to inform you that are residing in a shithole
>>27934348
Ah yes. I see you've be properly brainwashed. I can tell because you are of the belief that people WANT to be poor.
Remove the veil comrade. The lower class exists only because it must under capitalism.
>>27934431
Maybe. Not sure which branch of communism is pro-robot though. Leninism, Trotskyism and Maoism are pro-normie.
>>27934467
Bernie is a fucking soft cuck
This is why everyone laughs at leftists, your current "leaders" are some of the most pathetic individuals I've ever seen.
>>27934498
I'm 22 and most of my family supports Bernie Sanders too.
You probably also didn't know that more educated people tend to be more left-leaning.
>>27934515
what are you fucking talking about? i am a rich educated man form western Europe, you are some edgy under-age faggot from US
>>27934467
Technically the workers were meant to own the production in communism, but of course in real life that never happened.
>>27934465
if you don't own the means of production then you are.
>>27933604
>it's good when we do it
It is tho
>>27934534
He's a strong leader. He's a real dark horse in this race. He's as 'radical' as Ron Paul was by American standards, but his levels of support make Ron Paul look like a tinfoil hat retard.
>the survival of the fittest says that it's the ones who adapt the most to their environment, not the smartest or strongest who survive
so you'd be dead either way
>>27934545
I presume not as well. His autistic knee jerk designation of "faggot" I think makes a strong case.
>>27933483
Communism is a Jewish weapon designed to disintegrate European nations and identities.
No thanks.
>>27933545
"For the Marxist, rebelliousness in non-Communist societies is a sociological fact and in Communist society a merely psychological fact.
In the former "exploited" rebel, in the latter "traitors" reveal themselves."
>>27934528
how do i live under that illusion what the fuck are you talking about??
not everyone can be well off there will always be rich and poor
>>27934528
you mean brainwashed university faggots are left leaning, any dumb cunt with a fucking loan can go to college or uni you fucking faggot. holy shit no wonder you are poor.
>>27933483
Why go FULL COMMUNISM when you could just build a tightly regulated social democracy?
>>27934560
>Rich
>Educated
What the fuck are you doing here then, I'm sure someone as high-brow as you would have better things to do with his time other than argue with an edgy under-age faggot from the US
>>27934602
What exactly is so strong about a geriatric Jew that gives up his stage and his pride to BLM activists at the slightest provocation?
He's about as strong as a fucking comedian.
>>27934149
If anything your edgy ranting with "big words" makes you look like you're an edgy teen who believes he's better than everyone and gets upset when he gets shat on. It just makes me more dissapointed in you rather than eager to listen to you.
>>27934602
I suspect he'd have considerably less support in a more crowded field. Bernie isn't that popular, but rather Hillary is hated by a large number of people so they default to Bernie.
>>27934652
That's the best and most realistic choice for the near future anyway.
blue labour
in all honesty
tony blair was everything we need. it's a tragedy that he is vilified by all sides. just like the BBC
>>27934719
tony blair was a white hating dumb faggot who deserves to be hanged
>>27934719
>Tony blair
Might as well just elect prince charles
>>27934719
Blair hated the working classes and set about replacing them wholesale.
>>27934656
i got time and money
why don't you run along, learn, work and better yourself
oh wait you are a lazy commie faggot
>>27934481
>I have to buy shitty western products every year or so because they break all the time
> My friends, after being laidoff several times are being exploited and abused in dead end jobs
> my grandma died a year ago because she couldn't afford a surgery she needed due to neoliberal healthcare. Several relatives were highly respected engineers In the varna shipbuilding docks and lost all their livelyhood due it being sold of to venture capitalists
> My villages had vast orchards that are now dried up due to neglect and neoliberalism importing shitty foreign GMO foods
>>27934647
>there will always be rich and poor
its worse than I thought. You now accept the lie as an irrefutable law of economics. to keep it simple: consider the wealth of resources which are purposefully held back to generate artificial scarcity. Diamonds, food, even scientific research. These things are held back because if they were to be distributed it would lower their capital value. So once again to keep it simple, poor people are created to keep material capital up.
> you mean brainwashed university faggots are left leaning...
??????? This makes the least amount of sense. Are you implying reading and learning things actually devalues it worth as a "fact" to you?
>>27934776
Okay then sir, how do you propose I better myself and become rich like you?
>>27934799
no what im saying is that communist influence is pushed by cultural marxists in universities everywhere
>>27934794
kill yourself, faggot
or move to some communist shithole like north korea, it's a blast
>>27934828
read a fucking book in the library or read on the internet. learn from other, obtain a mentor and become an expert in something, then start a business or enter a decent job and work up
>>27934842
If there's a communist influence in our universities, then why are college students primarily Bernie supporting libcucks instead of communists
>>27934842
Nah, actual communists hate cultural marxists.
>>27933483
Thanks, but I'm not a lazy SJW Bernout.
>>27934531
Thats why we continue to develop theories that take into account the development of our modern society.
Socialist revolutionary theory isn't set in stone, comrade.
>>27934888
because most sane people with an average IQ see that communism is total shite and want something similar
>>27934902
explain that retarded statement you just procalimed
>>27934842
>cultural marxists
this is a contradictory term. Its like saying "exact estimate" you saying it reveals a severe misunderstanding of Marxism.
>'Cultural Marxism' then it becomes a contradiction in terms due to Marx's base-superstructure model of society concluding you can only bring about socialism or communism via changes in the economic relationships between people.
IE class
.
>>27934677
Actually I find your strawman amusing and quite pathetic desu...
>>27934758
>>
aspiration is not anti working class
>>27934739
>>27934755
>>27934758
you fannies only have meme arguments
THE IMMIGRANTS THE IMMGRANTS
MUH WORKING CLASS VALUES
fact is no party offers to scale back migration to absurd levels that idiots want and nobody could even if they tried.
>>27933483
>ETERNAL REMINDER that capitalism has failed worse than communism ever has with all of the wealth going into the hands of a small elite
why is this a problem? As long as your life is confortable, why do you care how much richer the rich are? You sound like a resentful loser
>>27934948
There is a fundamental division between the old left and the new left when it comes to culture.
>>27934875
Wow I actually am starting to believe that you really might be rich. Because you just spouted the most naive bullshit that only a porky would think to say.
>read a fucking book
Oh gee wow. Great suggestion. Books? thats where they keep the letters right?
>>27934865
Wow getting toasted are we?
Not everyone here gets money from western NGOs. We have to make with what we've got and unfortunately due to poor job oppurntunities and workers rights in our shitty service economy nation it's usually not much.
>kill yourself, faggot
Ironically suicide rates in post communist countries have massively increased...
>The move to NK demand
How predictable.
I'm not going there because I want to change my nation, kaval takuv.
>1985
The shelves are empty due to crises
>2016
The shelves are full for weeks on end because most people can't afford the products, which are so filled with chemicals that they can last so long.
>>27935053
>naive bullshit
i would fucking know dumb ass, people go from poor to rich all the time, get over it
>>27935171
Are you one of those people? If so then give us your story about how you got lucky
>>27933957
hahahahaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaa
sure you will.
>>27935213
> how i got lucky
anyway im just here im my garage with this Lamborghini here........
look at all these /pol/ fags in this gay thread kek
>>27935251
i know you fucking won't
>>27933483
Just LOL @ being white my family owns 11 homes all paid for that we rent out to people ill never be poor. My dad is indian and my mom is chinese we have some of dat old country money
>>27935372
ha shitskin, you may be rich, but you will never be white
>>27935261
well played trollman
>>27933644
>the "capitalism is an unevenly shared blessing, communism is an evenly shared disgrace" meme
>>27935402
compliment noted commiefag
>>27935399
Im actually light skinned enough to pass for a white person. India and china are the future fag im superior to you i dont even know why asian women race mix with such an inferior group of people. Im for sure going to find a chinese, korean or indian girl for myself
Until the entire planet is communist, communism will fail. The rich will just "Go Galt" and abandon us to our technology we have no idea how to work and fix.
>>27935470
good luck, small cocked cuck
>>27933483
>everyone should be as poor and miserable as I am
your ideology is fueled by envy and inadequacy and you can suck my dick
>>27935470
>pass for a white person
in your fucking dreams m80
>>27935502
My dick is 7 inches which is not small but it doesnt matter how big your dick is when youre handsome and rich because girls orgasm just off of my beautiful face
>>27935133
>Ironically suicide rates in post communist countries have massively increased...
true that. Take china for example which is more capitalist than us.
>>27935586
>being this delusional
ye sure ur dick is that big sure, oh and shitskins can't be attractive
>>27935633
Youre right they cant be attractive but they are the future
>>27933483
I bet you're the OP from all those
>why is pol so dumbbbnb guyyyzz????:dddDdDD
threads. Fuck off to somewhere else leftypol or stay at your fucking redditchan safespace
>all those tumblr tier words ITT
Enjoy roleplaying as a young Lenin in the """classwar""" you faggots
>>27934112
>sold our country's wealth to foreign corporations
>former warsaw pact country
>>27934925
well come back when socialists have an analysis on the plight of robots.
A lot of people on the left are still content to wage the battles of the 20th century, Trotskyism vs Stalinism and so on. I want Robotism to be the next great leap forward (pun intended).
>>27934925
>Thats why we continue to develop theories that take into account the development of our modern society.
blah blah blah blah
give me one communist thinker who's been worth half a damn since Marx
marx took the principles of the most up-to-date economics of his time, followed those principles to their conclusions, revolutionized economics, and also wrote some bullshit wishy washy predictions about the future
guess which side of his work the marxist movement has sprung up around
modern economics is still as intellectually bankrupt and in need of disruption as classical economics was - they don't fucking learn unless you teach them - but left-leaning thinkers nowadays would rather sit in their echo chambers jerking off about rebolution xddd
>>27933483
I think the most important question is whether or not Communism will support my fetishes.
>>27934371
lmao, wake the fuck up
t. bulgar
I'm actually a communist at heart. I do believe that communism is the ultimate system; however, because of humans being extremely flawed, communism will never work in practice.
>>27937604
yes all of your fetishes are supported in a communist society.
....even the nazi one
>>27935502
>>27935522
original
commie
If we redistribute wealth do we also redistribute women?
>>27933483
I am sexually aroused by capitalism. the thought of poor, weak workers having to fight day in day out just to sustain my lalvish western lifestyle gives me an erotic pleasure I cannot even begin to describe to you communist faggots. As I type this on my top of line laptop, in a house I fully own, I am orgasming. Right now I'm watching black slaves prance around and fight on a court for MY entertainment, all because somebody gave them a shit ton of money to do so. Soon I'll fuck a whore who can only stand to be around me because there's a chance she might get my money when I die almost a century from now.
Communism will always fail because it's the least erotic economic theory alive. Where's the domination, the submission? where's the passion? the love? Your faggot ideology was so unerotic not even the combined depravity of japan Russia AND Germany could keep it going. There's a reason every socialist leader was ugly. Communism will always fail, because it's a religion for impotent faggots who can't breed.
If you'll excuse me, I'm going to dump a hydrogen bombs worth of CO2 into the atmosphere so I can buy meat from a cow that's gone through nine 3rd world countries just to get to me. If I can hold back my near continuous orgasms, that is.
>>27933483
communism would be ok if it was actually organized by the community and not forced participation, but of course when a government does it for some odd reason they end up rich and everyone else ends up in a famine
