>I'm Asexual
>I was born in the wrong body
>I was born gay
>Furries
>OtherKin
tfw
Why is this encouraged ?
They are clearly mentally ill / traumatized but "Live your truth" , "be yourself" , get surgery or deny your species and biology to truly "be yourself"
Why is being delusional encouraged ?
Why do we lie to these people , when di
>>27923351
desu anything other than transexualism is complete utter cancer.
At least transexualism is a scientifically proven condition (Gender Identity Disorder)
Its been around for hundreds of years wheres shit like "otherkins", "asexuals" etc have only been around since the late 90's and have come into the spotlight since the birth of tumblr and the rise of feminism which cements them further that they are BS.
As a insane gay person I must agree, the Jew koolaid is making people die.No one gives a fuck, even Im too dead inside to give a fuck,in little ways removing yourself from the natural order of things is freeing
>>27923410
Gay and bisexual is as old as Alexander the great man
>>27923351
>>27923410
What's wrong with asexuals?
Not being attracted to anything seems alright
>>27923419
i dont mind gay people , its when people say that gay people are born gay.as if people are born with a sexual prefrence, i feel its a life choice
>>27923516
Asexuality is in its own right very hard to believe
I mean sexual attraction is a base chemical function in the body
If you lacked it ID be impressed
Also I feel people claim asexuality more than there actually is asexual individuals
>>27923522
I'm gay and I can tell you it's due to my upbringing and environment
I find it difficult to see males and females differently
>>27923582
If they're happy with themselves and not hurting anyone else or society what's the problem? I don't get the hate or fear of asexuals.
>>27923522
>>27923599
How is being a gay male anymore a life choice than being a straight male? In fact, if being gay was a choice more men would be gay to get laid easier.
>>27923618
I don't understand fear of them
I personally find them and other outlandish sexualities that are uncommon detrimental to gays
Just makes them all look like snowflakes
>>27923647
I didn't say it was a choice
But I wasn't gay genetically
It can trace back to around 5 when I can find shit I did that was indication
>>27923516
because it makes no sense
>Im not attracted to anyone in my species because im special
>i just have hormones for no reason
>ive never wanted to fuck anything ever, not even a cartoon character
>>27923665
How are you different from straight guys other than having a brain that's wired to like penis instead of vagina? All the gay guys I know were gay their whole life.
>>27923582
What about only feeling sexual attraction to people you build a strong emotional connection to? I personally find sex disgusting unless I'm very close to someone.
>>27923707
And in my opinion that "wiring" is an effect of conditioning
Lemme get into detail here
Do you remember the first time you jerked off? You could jerk off to practically any sort of visual stimulation, because your body doesn't have any sort of criteria for sexual attraction yet, people develop kinks and likes and dislikes later on, I started jerking off to exclusively females, but slowly and slowly I found myself gravitating towards males of certain builds
My hypothesis is that the brain figures out what sexually arouses it when it's a child, who it interacts with, media, father and mother role and attributes and other things influence this
>>27923688
>people with hormon deficiencies don't exist
>mentally challenged people don't exist
>>27923750
I feel that's just a bit of a personality trait
Not a sexuality of its own
>>27923794
That still sorta proves their point
I mean he's arguing those people aren't normal and shouldn't be treated as such
>>27923768
prove itfucking originality desu
>>27923814
Sure they aren't "normal".
Neither are gays, transsexuals, jews, redheads, blind people.... You get my point.
>>27923849
It's a medical/ scientific hypothesis based off my own sexual ideas
I can't prove it
I guess you could survey a Ton of gay people idk tbcqth familia
>>27923856
But do they deserve medical conditioning to try make them straight
Do you think other countries should take up Russia's notion on it
>>27923895
Not him, but my opinion.
As long as it's not life threatening or dangerous to others, a treatment should be recommended but not forced. Like any other mental illness.
>>27923916
Transexuals flaunt their massive suicide rates
Its not too hard to believe there would be a link to transsexualism and depression
>>27923410
>Its been around for hundreds of years wheres shit like "otherkins", "asexuals" etc have only been around since the late 90's and have come into the spotlight since the birth of tumblr and the rise of feminism which cements them further that they are BS.
Jesus was the first asexual.
God Tier: Straight
Good Tier: Asexual, Bisexual
Mediocre Tier: Transsexual
Shit Tier: Faggots
If you're gay, you're the cancer of this world. Might as well just do us a favor and kill yourself.
>>27923522
You can make a choice at any age I suppose.
Most people decide when they reach sexual maturity others such as myself..are a different story.
>>27923895
That's a completely different point though. OP was talking about "delusional", suggesting they don't actually feel that way but merely pretend.
You can't cure scizophrenia, you can't cure aids, what makes you think you can cure abnormal sexualities, even if you see it as a condition?
And even if you can, should edrybody even be the same? The next step would be everybody getting the same haircut, wearing the same clothes, eating the same food (fucking food allergics, why don't those fags get treated?). Doesn't sound too fun a world to live in.
I'm not saying we should treat them the same, actually quite the opposite. They are different and that should show. But don't try to "cure" them, they don't even want to be cured.
>>27923942
Exactly. If they're suicidal about it, then it should be forced.
>>27923895
no but we shouldnt just tell them being asexual is a real thing they should live life as
>>27923873
>hypothesis
>prove
pick one.
Also, it's a shit hypothesis if you can't test it.
>>27923972
>thinking i believe in jesus
>>27924009
>can't cure AIDS
>can't cure sexual preferences
are you serious? also, if you haven't noticed, schizophrenia and other psychological disorders are actually considered disorders and attempted to be treated, while being a homosexual is being encouraged and supported with phrases like 'there is nothing wrong with you!'.
quick reminder: if you support homosexuality, you should kill yourself
>>27923351
im asexual, please explain to me why im wrong.
>>27924134
Seems to me like you don't understand what I'm saying.
They shouldn't be treated lile they're "normal", because they're fucking not.
But for most mental conditions, if you consider homosexuality one, there is no cure, at least not in the longrun. Of course they're trying to treat them, but that doesn't mean it'll be successful. It's a waste of money actually if they don't even want to be cured.
Also:
You have a 3" dick. 3" dicks aren't normal. You fucking weirdo. Everybody who encourages 3" dicks should be killed.
>>27924224
Just because you've developed an apathy towards sex becaude you've never gotten any doesn't mean you need a special snow flake label.
>>27923582
raped when a kid
no testosterone
heavy erectile disfunction
aspie...
etc...
>>27924248
You sound like somebody who's mad because they're just another face in the crowd, indistinguishable from the millions of others, just like every other normie.
>>27924285
>projecting this hard
You're embarrassing desu
>>27923618
yea we asexuals just mind our own buisness. suposedly emanual Kant the creator of the Categorical Imperitive among others like Isaac Newton and soforth were asexual by reputation.
you can say all you want, but asexuals are a fundimental example of the duality of nature, you have those who fuck, and those who do not. kids are asexual for the most part. but when an adult doesnt want to have sex with anyone everyone flips out.
>>27924305
>he doesn't even realize he comes off as the girl at the prom who notices every ither girl is wearing a designer dress while she's wearing some retail shit
>>27923351
> Not asexual, just dislike and mistrust women
> not born in the wrong body, but appreciate that life would have been demonstrably easier if I'd been born female
> not gay, but prefer the company of a select group of male friends who I know won't shit me out, and as above fuck women
The other two are mental illnesses.
>>27924224
because all humans have a sexual reproductive system that mature. hormones that flow in them. people they meet and see , people they like their personalities , sex shown everywhere because sex sells. how can you saw youre not attracted to anything
>>27924361
>I like cheese, how can you not???
>>27923351
I think transgerism is fine because like.. it's is a mental disorder and the best recorded course of treatment is to allow them to indulge in their fantasies and become the opposite gender. I don't like a lot of the bullshit to do with it like I've seen people claim to be a transwoman who wants to be called he/him because they're a female tomboy like... they're not just I'M BORN A GIRL IN THE WRONG BODY they're saying I'M BORN A GIRL IN THE WRONG BODY BUT A GIRL WHO WANTS TO BE A GUY. Otherkin and all that shit is gross. Don't care about people being gay, don't see it as genetic but I don't think it's so much of a choice as it is just preferences which yes I believe you can be socialised to feel.
That said, I think asexuality is the one that pisses me off the most. Like, these special snowflake fucks think they're so special they gotta have an oppressed identity for not wanting to be a whore. Most of the time it's due to someone who hasn't got their hormones in check or they're depressed or don't exercised so they have no sex drive.
Orientations like demisexuality are even worse. It's become a legitimate fucking sexual orientation to simply say, "I only have sex with people I know." Like, that's not just a normal thing and apparently you're oppressed for just not wanting to suck everyone in the world's dick. I don't know if I'm just naive and everyone in the world is actually a whore and casual sex is that common that it's rare enough to be it's own sexual identity or if it's just people special snowflakin'.
>>27923522
If this were so you could choose to be gay and finally get laid.
>>27924110
You mean God? Jesus really existed.
>>27923351
>They are clearly mentally ill
Not qualified to say this :^)
>>27923972
Jesus hung around with prostitutes
>>27924248
what is wrong with being a snowflake or special? less than 1% of the population is asexual...
I have had plenty of sex, thats how i know i dont enjoy it...berely can get hard most of the time
what else do i call it when im not gay and i dont like sex, with boys or girls?
allot of the time, asexuals were raped when children and it is hard for them to want to have sex again other than to create kids.
if i wanted a family i could still get a girl pregnant, who cares?
if it is because you are trying to say that you are better than me than yes you are better than me obviously because you arent asexual...
Asexuality might be the worst offender of tumblr tarts claiming to be it and thinking they're the specialist snowflakes.
>>27924441
like poetry
>>27924441
well see the thing is, why do you need some fancy fucking label? why has your lack of sex drive become some core part of your identity?
because guess what: no one fucking cares that you're not having sex or don't want to have sex. no one gives a shit. it's not like being gay where it's like eventually it will come out when they have a partner of the same sex, it's just you being alone and no one not caring about you being alone but then you claiming some kind of identity with your alone-ness and wanting to act like you're oppressed for it.
no one cares that you don't feel sexual attraction just shut the fuck up about it
>>27924309
the problem with your logic is that you're implying that there can be sexual children.
children aren't supposed to be sexual.
adults are supposed to be sexual.
what the fuck is wrong with you
>>27923522
>i feel its a life choice
Is this bait?
Because people would definitely chose to be born into societies of people who deny their right to marry, spread lies about them and make them into pariahs
Probably bait
>>27924480
Not that anon
>Children aren't supposed to be sexual
Lucky little bastards..
>>27924477
Why would you want a label on homosexuality? Nobody cares with whom you have sex.
>>27923972
the word meme just came out but there have been memes since ever.
>>27924480
>adults are supposed to be sexual
And if they're not, they're called asexual. Because that's literally what it means, "not sexual".
>>27924524
Except you're wrong faggot. Because it's more than just about sex and you know that and that's why your argument is invalid. You can't be oppressed for not doing something. Homosexuals at least were treated poorly for doing something, not like someone is going to see you walking down the street and be like YEAH THIS GUY IS ASEXUAL I CAN TELL HE DOESNT LIKE SEX LETS BEAT HIM UP AND UHHH FORCE HIM TO HAVE SEX
>>27924350
damn you must be getting really laid dude. you must be getting laid out.
>>27924309
>emanual Kant the creator of the Categorical Imperitive among others like Isaac Newton and soforth were asexual by reputation.
Lol! Not reading between the lines and realizing they were cock jockies.
>>27924361
so its impossible for someon to not have sex? einstien, newton, Kant.. your telling me that they had sex?
>>27924391
BURRNNNNNN
> finally get laid
Kek, i really miss your mom
>>27924379
thank you! haha perfect example
>>27924605
did she give you the good succ?
>>27923351
That image, I like Childish Gambino
>>27924477
ugh.. okay fine im not asexual.. i just dont have sex thats all. im gonna go find a new word. it seems "tumbler snowflakes" ruined it for me. thank you anon, you actually helped me sir.
>>27924649
>tumbler
>>27924480
lolol, i knew a kid who fucked this girl right in front of me when he was 10... both parties enjoyed it. some children are sexual
>>27923410
True autists can be asexual. Their brain is so disconnect from human interaction, they can't feel sexual attraction to anything.
>>27924559
>You can't be oppressed for not doing something
Yup, nobody was opressed for not following Hitler's lead. :^)
Why are you even bringing opression into this discussion? It's not like any of the "asexuals" here (doubt that even half of them really are) were complaining about not being treated fairly or demanding special rights. They just wanted to know why you despise this sexual anomaly especially.
And also, if what you're doing is done by a significant group of people, that's basically opression.
Identity politics are shit and don't matter at all.
>>27924480
idk what is wrong with me, but can i at least live in your society? even though i dont want to fuck your girlfriend or you for that matter?
>>27923351
Did candlejack get yo-
>>27924570
Why? Because you get laid? Tell me what brand of condoms you usually use so I can do exactly like you.
>>27924490
because people fight for their rights and who they love ? THATS WHAT HUMANS DO
>>27923351
The otherkin and furries stuff is the real issue here.
The other things fit on a spectrum of sexuality but "I'm a cat meow" is just self indulgant delusionalism. We live in a society that permits this sort of nonsense. Otherkins need a good hard slap and a four week holiday somewhere in the third world.
>>27924559
im asexual and this is exactly how i got raped by my gay roomates the first year of college. they didnt believe me so they tied me up and sucked my dick. i dont like guys either.
>>27924580
haha everything really is just a cock joke
Homosexuality is primarily a behavior and a dangerous one at that; it should be discouraged. The idea of 'gay' identity and community is modern absurd meme, and people shouldn't be grouping themselves into their desire to engage in degenerate behaviors (similar to identifying as a junkie, 'member' of the 'BDSM community' or 'gamer')
>>27924694
What does that even mean in relation to what i posted??
why care
>>27924600
>so its impossible for someon to not have sex
can you read ?
>einstien, newton, Kant.. your telling me that they had sex?
How the fuck would i know , how the fuck would anyone know that now
>>27924706
Lol
It could have been worse - if you were straight then you'd have disliked it even more. If you're asexual then rape doesn't count by definition.
>>27924624
sucky sucky 5 dorrar
>>27924110
Well, we are pretty certain that there was a man named Jesus, born in Bethlehem who was crucified by the Romans.
>>27924668
except for jews or people who didnnt follow Hiitler's lead...
>>27924762
>Well, we are pretty certain that there was a man named Jesus, born in Bethlehem who was crucified by the Romans.
evidence pls?
>>27924692
im asexual, i dont have sex...
>>27924600
>Einstein
>not having sex
relative lol
>>27924772
That's what I was implying.
>>27924752
>If you're not into cheese, force-feesing you cheese is totally ok.
>>27923351
The only thing bad about being asex is it being a dealbreaker for relationships, because the two never really find out about the incompatibility until someones gotten attached.
>>27924747
okay, so you are saying i do have sex? i dont get it bud. all i know is i dont have sex and you seem to have a problem with it.
What the fuck is this thread
Why is everyone talking like a retard
>>27924820
>wanting relationships without sex
that's basically just a friendship d00d
>>27924731
>dangerous
>not affecting your life in any way
>>27923994
closeted faggot detected
stop hating yourself bro
i have a problem with the concept that people have 0 sexual attraction to anything. thats ridiculous
>>27924752
well, it was against my will... im asexual and definitley dont like boys so i dont see how that makes it any better since i dont like getting my dick sucked reguardless. if it was a strait guy maybe he would actually enjoy the feel. to me it was all bad and i couldnt talk to anyone for a while, thought i would catch the gay etc.
>>27924784
Then y u frontin bro?
All I've been doing for the last few hours is showing this tool how whiny he comes off.
>>27924866
bruh, i cant tell whos sayin what in this shit
>>27924823
Simply not having sex is not the same as being asexual.
If it were, all non-desperate virgins were asexual by default.
>>27924834
Ah but cuddling is amazing and friends don't do that
>>27924838
how does homosexual activity not affect a homosexual's life? they have a huge risk of sti's not to mention the cavities they use aren't actually meant to have things inserted in them and become damaged
>>27924898
>Trying to explain the concept of cuddling to people who post on 4chan
Lost cause m8
>>27924600
>einstien, newton, Kant.. your telling me that they had sex?
Why would they not?
Kant definitely was a pussy smasher back in his day.
He's Chad of Philosophy.
>>27924884
THIS, i like you , i really do senpai
>>27924884
sigh.... okay so i am a person "without sexual feelings or associations" (google) and you seem to have a problem with it because?...
i dont want to fuck your girlfriend or you and you have a problem with this because....?
>>27924224
asexuality is a personality trait at best. i don't know much about this but from what i heard, it sounds like absolute bullshit.
>i only fuck the people i know and love
thats called having morals and not being a whore
>b-b-but i have low sex drive/erectile dysfunction/hormone problems/mental disability (like downs)
then that is called having a low sex drive, etc, etc.
that is literally all that asexuality is. it is not a real thing. why are people trying to label everything? my god.
>>27924901
Not every homosexual is into anal.
And straight people insert into the mouth as well, which isn't meant to be inserted in.
>>27924731
>The idea of 'gay' identity and community is modern absurd meme,
What is a molly house?
Clue: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molly_house
>>27924918
nah he didnt m8 i jus did a paper on him.
>>27924762
I'm pretty certain there's thousands of men called Jesus in Mexico.
>>27924944
okay.....so its a personality trait.... it there an actual problem with the way i live my life? ill use different word.
>>27924928
it is possible to not have sexual desires or feelings at CERTAIN TIMES , like when youre taking a shit, but not every single time you live life , your daily routine. are your standards that high that youre not sexually attracted to people you meet or pass by. even their personalities
>>27924928
I don't have a problem with it, I'm actually the guy defending asexuality here. I just wanted to distinguish between not having sex and not feeling sexually attracted to anything.
>>27924959
m8 he totally did.
girls got wet when he was telling them about the transcendental illusion.
>>27924985
okay i agree with you. but when i look at girls and boys i do not want to have sex with them..
>>27924986
thank you, that distinction is very important. i know a lot of strait virgins.
>>27924949
and if that behavior is shown to cause damage (as anal sex does) it should be discouraged, glad you agree
>>27924998
hahaha mah nigguh. your right he did.
>>27924901
>the cavities they use aren't actually meant to have things inserted in them and become damaged
Vaginas however are designed to pass babies and yet get destroyed in the process (obstetric fistulas being a great example). A thousand cocks in the arse will do less damage than twins.
>>27924862
why do you care though? even if they're lying, at least they're not claiming they were born as the wrong gender and cutting their dick off.
>>27925001
THATS FINE. hey you dont have to want to fuck them but you can still think they are sexually attractive right ? im not gay but Zac Efron is sexually attractive , doesnt mean i want to fuck him, i can see why people would want to tho
>>27923410
>anything other than transexualism is complete utter cancer.
everything except what I do isn't ok
>>27924678
well i was just talking about one part of your post. the kid part just bothered me. i mightve worded it wrong. i mean kids aren't supposed to have sex. none of them. but adults can have sex and are allowed the choice not to.
asexuality is not a big deal and should not have a label. some grown ups aren't sexual but that's just what you prefer... just the fucking kid part, man.
>>27924950
The difference is that before the late 19th century, homosexuality as a concept of identity wasn't really a thing.
In ancient Rome, rich Romans had sex with their servant boys all the time, edn though they fucked women.
China had the same thing about 1000 years later.
Those men were not considered homosexual, the idea of homosexuality didn't exist. It was considered normal.
Christian cultures were the first to stop having same-sex intercourse, as the bible says "Thou shalt not lay with another man" or something like that.
>>27925043
if you read my first post .. we're encouraging them to be delusional and some young people might actually believe it
>>27925023
That response is hardly relevant to my comment.
By your logic, homosex is fine, as long as they don't stick the pee-pee in the poo-poo, right?
>>27925045
ya,, see that is where the distinction lies. the only time i have ever found someone sexually atractive is after i knew them a while and i prepared my self for it. then it goes away.
YES Zac Efron is an extremely attractive man...i recognise that he can attract many people sexually, HOWEVER, even though i can recognise the popular ,current facial aesthetic trends i am not able to feel this sexual attraction to him. insert kim kardashian, sure i could have sex with her (not really but given the opportunity) and i can be sexually attracted to her to a point. but that is a rare and specific example.
>>27924554
i meant that they are allowed the choice to have sex.
i fucking thought asexual meant when an organism reproduces without a partner. these new phrases... im too tired for this.
>>27925069
There was a very strong identity and culture around homosexuality in 18th century London. Sorry to destroy your ideology but fags have been fagging for a very long time. You just need a critical mass of them. If modernity has anything to do with it then it's simply down to population density.
>>27925062
okay, asexuality shouldnt be a label, i agree. but it is. and it sucks. but i am what someone would label as "asexual" ie: dont have girlfriends boyfriends no wife husband etc. no sex bc, lack of sexual attraction.
>>27925081
how the hell am I supposed to know which posts are yours? the one I responded to wasn't in response to anyone. anyway, the difference between trannys and asexuals is that asexuals aren't mutilating themselves and taking hormones to transform their body. if an asexual wants to start having sex they can. if a dude that became a chick wants to be a dude again, that's not anywhere near as easy. you really can't compare the two.
>>27924379
and then that person who doesn't like cheese decides to make a label for themselves when it's just as simple as just not liking cheese
>>27925092
sex without penetration isn't really sex tbo
see so you cant say you have NO sexual feelings or desires, maybe the definition needs to be changed.
its fine to have a low sex drive , its fine if you need to get to know people , its fine if youre too busy for sex , its fine if youre focused on other things
Yet asexuality as a sexual orientation makes 0 sense to me and thats my stupid opinion
>>27925001
You don't seem to get the difference. I'm a virgin myself and if I se an attractive woman on the street, I don't want to fuck her either. Does that make me asexual? No, because I still feel sexual attraction for that woman.
I'm aroused by watching porn, I wish for someday meeting the right girl, having a relationship and losing my virginity. I just don't want to fuck random people 24/7.
I'm straight, and if you're ever sexually attracted to something (not talking about wantig to fuck) then so are you. Or gay, or bi, or whatever, but not asexual.
>>27924649
just call it "not liking sex"
>>27925128
thats asexual reproduction , things plants do
>>27925155
>how the hell am I supposed to know which posts are yours?
i fucked up there fine, sorry senpai
>>27925169
sexual vs asexual
=
like chese vs. not liking chese
same thing. its very simple to understand.
>>27925115
Then you're not asexual.
Actually, you're probably part of the reason why OP hates asexuals so much. Because of people like you claiming that they are asexual when they're clearly not.
You're not a slut, you have control over your sex drive, but you can feel sexually attracted to people you know, hence you're not asexual.
You have to realize that there is a difference.
>>27924649
fuck that shit. there's a word for someone that has no desire to have sex and it's asexual. just because there's stupid people out there that identify as asexuals doesn't mean you shouldn't. that's gonna happen with any group of people, don't let it stop you.
>>27925141
No, homosexuality did not exist. Homosexual acts were considered sodomy, along with every slightly non-heterosexual behavior. It just was seen as outlandish.
Doesn't change the fact that it was completely normal that men had sex with men 2000 years ago either.
>>27924477
>why has your lack of sex drive become some core part of your identity?
lol are you seriously this stupid? with this line of logic you're also implying that its stupid for gays and straights to not have their sexuality inform their identity as well. you sound like a religious person who is angry that atheists exist. stay mad, bro.
>>27925155
>if an asexual wants to start having sex they can.
An asexual DOES NOT start to want having sex. That's like saying "if a straight guy wants to start having sex with other guys, he can".
>>27925171
okay so.. ill say sexual orientation: none? or sexual orientation: N/A?
asexual orientation
its just words
muh dissaprove of my lifestyle
idk man, i can call my sexual orientation whatever i want my nigga.i think your just jealous because i dont have to think about sex all day! jk :) much love.
i never liked the word asexual anyways because it remided me of asexual reproduction and it didnt make sence to me.
>>27924480
where the fuck he implying that children can be sexual?? that is something that you misunderstood and brought into this.
>>27925183
muh "just call it a civil union"
>>27925170
So you don't count oral?
Ok, fair enough. Then that point is valid I guess.
You should, however, also hate any form of heterosexual anal.
>>27924762
who is this "we" you are so freely using? there is no consensus at all among scholars about jesus and most believe he did not exist. stop trying to using subtle word play to trick people into thinking that your opinion is the majority because it is not. i thought christians weren't supposed to lie.
>>27924833
dude, seriously. summer must have come early this year.
>>27925289
Yeah, no, whatever.
You are actually wrong and I can't be arsed to argue with you because you're too stupid to understand how wrong you are.
You can't as they say win an argument with an idiot and you are an idiot.
>>27925378
I am not lying, from a certain point of view.
>>27925236
it doesnt work that way man... its like explaining not swimming to a fish...i think im going to give up soon.
but hey anons, if you think really hard about it (you dont hve too) you can imagine a human being who doesnt feel (a significant level of) sexual attraction for anyone (relative to the average human being)
i added parts in order to try to better explain the relativity of the natural universe so you dont need to assume it.
>>27925378
Christians aren't supposed to have premarital sex either, yet nobody seems to give a shit.
>>27925267
thank you man, thank you for that
>>27925328
it was hard to get hard before i knew i was asexual. staring at a woman's naked body was the equivilent to staring at a rock. i had to use meditation in order to get blood there because i wanted to be Chad so bad.
>>27925289
MOLLIS
The primary meaning of this Latin
adjective is "soft," but it was also used in
a secondary, sexual sense. From the first
century B.C. onwards the Romans used
the word as an equivalent malakosl
malthakos, "soft, passive-effeminate
homosexual." Other Latin words in this
semantic field are semivir, 'lhalf-man,"
and effeminatzts. The compound homo
mollis ("softy") is also found. The abstract
noun mollities meant "softness, effemi-
nacy" but also "masturbation," with the
underlying notion that "only asissy has to
masturbate." In St. Jerome's translation of
I Corinthians 6:9 themolles (pl.) are (along
with the masculorum concubitores,
"abusers of themselves with mankind,")
excluded from the Kingdom of God; the
former term denotes the passive, the latter the active male homosexual. This usage was continued in medieval Latin and even found its way into the early literature of sexology composed in the learned tongue. As late as 1914 Magnus Hirschfeld commented on the appropriateness of the term
by claiming that 99 percent of the homo-
sexual subjects he had interviewed described their own character as "soft" or
"tender."
The Latin mollis may well be the
origin of the eighteenth-century English
molly (or molly-cull) = effeminate homo-
sexual, a term given publicity by police
raids on their clandestine haunts in Lon-
don (1697-1727) following the relative
tolerance of the Restoration era that had
seen a homosexual subculture emerge in
the British metropolis. The term molly
also suggests the personal name Mclly, a
diminutive of Mary, so that the folk ety-
mology introduces a separate nuance of
the effeminate.
>>27925402
I'm not stupid an the reason why you din't want to argue with me isn't that I'm stupid but that you either don't give a shit or that you can't privide proof. I don't know which it is, i would like some proof if you have some.
Where exactly in my post am I wrong? It's consensus among historians and actually well documented that Romans hat homosexual intercourse on a regular basis, which was seen as normal. I can look for sources if you're interested.
Homosexuality is a modern day concept, because a few hundred years ago, there wasn't even the idea of a strong individual identity.
>>27925378
be gentle, you are debunking some heavy dogma
>>27925328
yeah, no shit. my point was, if an asexual meets the right person and changes their mind about not wanting to have sex, they can. if a tranny changes their mind and wants to go back to the gender they were born as, it's not so easy. that's why you can't compare the two.
>>27923522
It's not a life choice, people are born with a certain chemical balance in their brain, which causes some individuals to be more attracted to their own gender. This is why there are bisexuals who are more attracted to either gender and less attracted to the other. It's because the chemical balance difference is not that big. But when there are gays who only fancy men and are disgusted by women, it means their chemical balance in the brain is very big. This is why homosexuals were considered to be mentally ill until the 90's. Technically, there is a dysfunction or an imperfection in the brain, but then again, we're all imperfect.
>>27925412
exactly!
(rigatoni rigatoni unorigional comment gotta add shit)
>>27925503
why would you compare asexuality to transexuality? those are two completley different if not opposite concept
>I was born in the wrong body
How the fuck would anyone know that?
Do they magically know what's it like being in the correct body? It's the same shit as otherkin thinking they were born the wrong species, you DONT FUCKING KNOW WHAT ITS LIKE BEING A FUCKING WOLF.
Goddamnit in the next decade there may be people claiming that they are:
a snickers bar
a sports bar
a sportscar
Leonardo daVinci
>>27925467
dude , theres porn i look at and feel nothing , there are women i see and feel 0 attraction that doesnt mean I have no sexual desires or feelings
>>27925508
Determinism
muh "free will"
muh "god"
muh "predetermined"
>>27925408
Yes, it does work that way. I have full understanding for real asexuals, but if you're ever attracted to something, then you're by definition not asexual.
Asexuality is not just about not thinking about sex all the time.
Sorry I have to tell you this harsh, but the way you described it, there's no way of you being actually asexual and I don't know why you insist so hard.
You feel sexual attraction sometimes -> not asexual
What's so bad about this?
>>27925534
exactly, because you are a sexual person, and you are not asexual.. amirite?
>>27925508
Technically, they're still mentally ill. I don't know why it's "incorrect" to deny that they're normal or that their behavior/sexuality is normal.
>>27923351
asexual is something beta virgins tell themselves to make them feel better for never approaching the opposite sex.
the rest is mental illness. I think.
What is "other kin"?
>>27925508
so what happens when a straight dude decides to fuck another dude or perform gay acts , was he bisexual the whole time or did he decide he truly loves a dude and wants to fuck him because he is attracted to him mentally and physcially
>>27925541
but i have never felt sexual attraction......
>>27925492
>>27925487
Looks like the Romans had plenty of words to accurately describe faggots. Surely specific words don't arise in a language for things that don't exist.
There's a difference between homosexuals not being persecuted and not having an identity.
If you actually look into molly houses and the whole sub culture that existed in London you'll teahouse that you're mistaken in your belief.
>>27925562
>What is "other kin"?
Basically transsexuals, but with animals or whatever.
>>27925541
you can definitely feel sexual attraction if you are asexual, it is just extremely rare my friend. plus its all a spectrum, so i dont even know what you are arguing about.
>>27925557
>Technically, they're still mentally ill
No, because a psychological condition can only be an illness if it is harmful.
Being a faggot is generally harmless.
>>27925524
at some point in this thread I was talking to an anon that was comparing the two.
>>27925557
>>27925508
Because it's a very large concept, the chemical imbalance. I mean, you probably have quite an imbalance too in your brain, but it doesn't necessarily mean that it causes you to be attracted to your own gender. Some people live their whole life without knowing that they're actually somewhat attracted to their gender, some often just choose to be more attracted to either. That's why it's very hard to find the perfect balanced brain and the perfect heterosexual. That's why in a sense, many of us are all imperfect and imbalanced and somewhat homosexuals.
>>27925562
https://youtu.be/5gWXwbToNpA
>>27925552
not having sexual desires at every single moment doesnt make me asexual and not having any sexual desires in your entire life is absurd. im OP btw
>>27924381
>I think transgerism is fine because like.. it's is a mental disorder and the best recorded course of treatment is to allow them to indulge in their fantasies and become the opposite gender.
suicide rates increase post op. Plenty of "trans people" get support to go through their retard plastic surgery only to look like suicidal dummies later.
this ridiculous tranny social justice movement or whatever you want to call it since the olympian millionaire transitioned is going to fucking kill people.
but hey, now atleast gender neutral restrooms exist so men can rape women in public toilets.
:^)
>>27925503
No, you don't fucking get it. What you're describing is NOT asexuality, because an asexual WILL NOT suddenly decide to want to have sex now unless gays can also decide to become gay all of a sudden.
If you have no desire to have sex until you meet the right woman, you're straight with control over his fucking sex drive, or morals, or whatever. But that's not a sexual orientation.
Asexuality is however and as such does not change from one day to the other. It just doesn't work that way.
>>27923351
the definition of asexuality here is much more strict than the spectrum in which asexuals usually abide by. there are tons of asexuals that masturbate on the regular, have felt sexual attraction etc. but are asexual by ideology. its not even a sexual orientation in its entirety, it is the oposite, so it doesnt follow the same rules put forth by sexal orientations
>>27925616
what if you were brutally raped and the thought of sex made you sick? this is the case for many asexuals.
>>27925616
i know its hard to imagine but just imagine. people who dont have sex, what do you call em? asexuals.
>>27925661
BRUH , see no one agrees on what asexuality is. because it doesnt exist. Im following the definition accepted by most people and google and dictionaries
>>27925649
thats not true. you can be asexual and still have sexual attraction but just chose not to have sex. "asexual" or without sex. it is not like the other orientations at all.
>>27925683
u don't ever get rape nostalgia and start craving ur uncle's cock again?
>>27925683
thats trauma , its terrible and sad. but rape victims still get sexually aroused and keep living lifee,
>>27925568
He was bisexual iherently, he just hadn't come across the "trigger" before, the person who makes him realize he's into men as well.
You didn't know you were straight until you met a girl you liked either. (And yet you could theoretically turn out to be bi if somewhere on this planet there was a man you'd take as your sexual partner)
>>27925683
why would it matter, isn't that a good enough reason?
>>27925704
i think people should stop putting it along the same lines as Homosexuality, etc.. its just a different thing.
>>27925718
>it is not like the other orientations at all.
Mainly because the other ones are actually real.
>>27925731
sometimes g. sometimes they are asexual my nigg
Because being delusional makes you happier in a society which normally won't allow you to be that.
>>27925746
abstaining from fucking is now a sexual orientation? our world is beyond retarded
>>27925218
>chese
>>27925761
"What's your sexual orientation?"
"Repressed"
>>27923351
of course you dont apporove of my asexuality brother,
i understand humans naturally want other humans to procreate in order to further the species. its engrained in us as a defence mechanism, its natural. i understand your love brother.
>>27925572
Of course homosexual acts existed and so did words to describe them. However, a homosexual identity did not.
Yes, the sissyboy servants who were fucked by the rich Romans were seen as not masculin and looked down upon, however, the rich guys doing the fucking weren't treated any different.
The definition posted is talking about a bible text which suggests that both parts were ungodly, which does not contradict at all what I said. However, this is the Christian view of these acts, and not the Roman's.
>>27925218
No, not liking sex is different to not feeling sexual desire.
>>27925698
No, you call them people who don't have sex. Asexuals are people who don't want to have sex, because of a lack of attraction.
>>27923351
If they're mentally ill, encouraging delusion is probably better than attacking them. Do you really think that's a solution?
It's the ultimate first world problem. I've never heard of a trans person that isn't Western or middle class.
>>27925661
>I'm vegan
>but I eat meat
>I'm one of those special meat eating vegans
No, you aren't.
Does anyone else think being gay is a result of a lack of a father figure and possible molestation? Why else could a man be turned on by a hairy butthole instead of a nice pussy!
>>27925827
You're wrong, you won't face the facts. There was a homosexual identity you just don't like it.
As soon as you put two homosexuals together there arises a homosexual idenity. They realise that they are not unique nor alone and the identity arises from there. This is basic human interaction (I know I'm expecting a robot to understand how that might work) - people form groups and identities based on commonalities and the bigger the difference with the mainstream, the stronger the identity.
This is exactly what has happened with r9k - the recluses, loners, socially inept and autistics of the world have against the odds and reason formed a peer group and developed an identity of their own which the perpetuate and amplify through a process of peer approval.
This is exactly what happened throughout history when a critical maas of gays was reached. The reason you can't read about it is because there were levels of secrecy around it. Pontius Paedo might be recorded as a great guy for fucking boys but it's because he paid someone to write it.
>>27925926
Never heard of Thailand then?
>>27925947
I think we're all just a byproduct of our surroundings and some people are more influenced or less influenced by that.
I don't think people are born gay or straight, its just something others force into our heads.
>>27925947
I only know a hand full of gays.
On is a friend's brother, who comes from a good, intact family.
One was raised by a single dad.
One I'm not too certain, but I believe intact family as well.
You can probably rule out the lack of a father figure as a cause.
>>27926000
Or trying to make money from Western and middle class people.
>>27923351
Transexuals are mentally ill.
Bisexuality has always existed in some form in humans and other animals but the idea of an exclusively homosexual identity and culture is pure degeneracy. You only have to look at statistics regarding homosexuals to plainly see that.
Asexuality is for most cases just a meme to make undesirable people feel better and for the 'genuinely' asexual; mental illness.
Furries, otherkin, etc, are just strange (usually undesirable) people who want to attach a label to their weirdness to 'legitimize' it and feel a bit less weird.
As for why they're all encouraged? I believe it's a combination of things.
>the belief that encouraging these things is the best way to secure happiness for the afflicted
>leftist feminist ideology eroding any kind of decency (by decency here, I mean the social - mostly sexual - standards which aim to provide long term quality of life) and pushing against meritocracy
>feminists gaining power and inserting women into positions of some influence so they can propagate these ideas
>human nature, aided by the internet, banding people with similar interests/identities together and sucking in sympathizers or 'allies' - amplifying their degeneracy in the resulting echo chamber
>>27923410
But where do you draw the line?
A transsexual is a person who feels like he/she was born in the 'wrong' body, and that they should have been a member of the opposite sex.
Replace 'gender' with 'species' here, and suddenly it's degenerate. This is my opinion too, but why? Why is the denying of your biological state ok when it refers to gender, but not when it refers to species?
>>27926173
Transexuals have brains that are structured more like their opposite sex.
why donald glover
>>27925978
Wrong famalam.
You can put two homosexuals tofether, sure, but the men in Roman times weren't homosexuals. They were sissyboys getting fucked, not because they liked it, but because they were supposed to, and rich guys fucking those boys because of power and social status.
Ok, mayd some of the latter enjoyed it, but they still fucked women too, so that would make them at least bi.
But the CONCEPT of bisexuality didn't exist either. Of course there were bisexual acts, fucking both men and women, what else would that be, but there was no sexual identity associated with them.
There were no homosexuals, bisexuals or whatever, because those acts were normal and nobody really gave a shit.
Those who were what we would today call homosexuals were sodomists, a group which wasn't limited to sexual behaviour.
Actual sexual identities did not exist until modern times. Sure, there were homosexuals, but they didn't identify as homosexuals or any other word they might have used at that time, because people had no concept of gender, sexuality, etc.
When people were arrested or persecuted, it was not for BEING homosexual, but fot committing homosexual acts or sodomy.
It's hard to explainthis shit, I'm really trying my best, but English isn't my first language either.
I've done uni courses on gender, identity and such. If you're saying I'm posting bullshit, then you should probably talk to my professors.
>>27926236
Hey guys,
This faggot has done gender studies at university.
Valid degree right?
Your professors are responsible for all this feminazi bullshit. Their whole field of study is subjective and subject to their own agendas so it doesn't follow that they're right because they're professors just that they joined in the circle jerk.
They do not teach math.
>>27926286
Ah, the classic "I'm cornered, I better attac his degree"-move. Should've seen that one coming.
Some of my profs are into femnazi-leftist-gender-bullshit, some aren't. Doesn't mean you can't study the field though, even if it's just to prove other theories wrong.
I actually disagree a lot with renowned scolars on those topics, but some things you can just take as they stand.
There were no concepts for gender or sexuality for a long ass time, because people didn't think that way. You were male or you were female, you had sex, that's it. That's all that was ever thought about. Nobody would sit down and think " but what if there were people born men, who feel like females?"
>They do not teach math.
Yeah, cause in natural sciences, nobody has ever been proven wrong.
