What anime had the most phenomenal story you've ever seen, and what do you think made it so great?
I'm going with Deathnote. The fact that they took two masterminds and made it a chess game of life and death made me always wonder what they'd do next. Plus I never knew who to root for.
>>27917403
Ajin is pretty good
>>27917448
I thought I saw it on Netflix. I might check it out.
>>27917403
Ghost in the shell, close 2nd death note.
the mid 00's had great anime.
>>27917501
Seconding GitS
Just remember not to watch the 2.0 version of the 1st movie, it was censored badly.
http://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=825158
Get the 1995 version instead from bakabt.
Then watch the 2nd movie (Innocence), followed by the first two TV seasons (SAC and 2nd GIG), then the 3rd movie (Solid State Society). The first two movies are on a different timeline than SAC/2nd GIG/SSS. You can get these all from bakabt.
Then there's the prequel series, which comes in both TV (Arise Alternative Architecture) and OVA form (Arise), except the TV series has 2 extra episodes. You should watch the TV series, you can find it on nyaa. Finally there's the 4th movie (New Theatrical Edition/New Movie), which is a continuation of the TV series.
That gits makes you think. The whole laughing man, stand alone complexe individual eleven stuff is good.
Psycho pass I like for the similar reasons.
>>27917967
I stopped watching Psycho-Pass after the brains thing was introduced. Did it get any better after that?
Probably Evangelion. The end was weird as fuck, but I couldn't stop thinking about it afterwards.
>>27917403
watch saikano if you don't think you want to kill yourself enough this weekend. It's really good.
For arise I watched the ova I think but the voice cast was differnt does the tv arise have the voice cast from SAC? I might have the tv and ova switch, but does one of them have the voice cast from SAC I saw on adult sqim?
>>27917866
SAC comes after the 1st movie tho
>>27918001
It turned out pretty awesome, worth the watch
Second season is shit though
Steins;gate was a mindfuck. Doot doot do! Kirusu is love, Kirusu is life.
>>27918045
Yes, but again SAC is a different timeline than the 1st and 2nd movies.
You may as well couple the first two movies together, otherwise you'll be surprised by the character change if you watch the 2nd movie after SAC.
>>27918034
Are you referring to the English dub?
>>27918001
Season 2 wasnt as good. Except I kinda like the ending.
I always thing of ppls hue now
WC?
What color are you?
What color would you robots be?
>>27917403
>Death Note
>Phenomenal story
Still listen to Linkin Park OP?
>>27917403
Pic related
Oreganno
>>27918078
>>27918096
Yes english dub.
I knw ppl always say watch things in chinese or whatever its always better....but gokus voice wasnt better.
>>27918021
I watched Evangelion twice and I didn't like it/get it both times. I got the impression it was just 2deep4me, also the Christian imagery seemed totally random and kinda threw me off. Is Eva a meme?
OP, do you like Afro Samurai? That's my favorite anime, with Death Note being my second.
>>27918128
Whos the new linkin park?
>>27917403
>childrens cartoons
>phenomenol
>>27918128
As a matter of fact I do, m8.
>>27918128
Yeah, we only watch anime for deep thinkers around here, like Lucky Star and Yuri Yuri
>>27917403
>death note
shig dig a diggeridoo
>>27918237
K-On, too.
that shit had me questioning my existence. :'(
>>27918129
Is Jojo's story really that good?
>>27918195
Yes, the Eva series is a meme for pseudo-intellectuals. But it makes a little more sense once you watch the movies.
>unironically liking deathnote
Gunbuster and Bubblegum Crisis were fun.
>>27918165
>chinese or whatever
I hope this is bait.
>>27918195
As a fan of Eva let me say that it is 2deep4u b8. The plot is complex for the sake of it, but looking at it, it was probably done just to always make it feel like there's something greater going on beyond the scenes, but it's sloppy. The "symbolism" is less so that and more so just attaching Christian names on everything. It's like me slapping you with the bible while screaming "RELIGION." The characters are what make Eva, with End of Evangelion being the thing that's most properly structured and wraps things up. Still 2deep4u b8, but it excels imo with conveying emotion.
>>27918336
>unironically liking whatever crappy anime you like
>>27918336
I like it.
What you gonna do, beta bitch boy?
>>27918290
>not knowing k-on is actually 2deep4u shit
>>27918081
>can't sp3ll his waifu's name
also moeka best g1rl
>>27918335
End of Evangelion right? And not the rebuilds? The rebuilds aren't good Evangelion movies.
>>27918457
Oh it's shit alright.
>>27918445
I felt like it was easy to understand until around episode 20ish(?). It's been like 3 years since I watched so maybe I just forgot, but I'm not sure if it ever explained what angels were doing fucking with humans and I was kinda let down that the story never wrapped up, but I guess what I have trouble liking, other people love about it.
>>27918534
Episode 20ish is where it wraps up and explains some things, but not everything. The angels coming are heavily implied as why they're there but requires the viewer to piece together based on small details. Evangelion is great at subtle details, from character habits to that one newspaper in that one scene. But it gets sloppy in that even in subtlety it doesn't explain everything.
[spoilers] The angels were there to get access to lillith to initiate third impact. They're beings born from Adam. Beings from Adam can connect with lillith to trigger third impact. Kaowuru couldn't because he was simply the body of Adam, and doesn't have the soul of Adam[/spoiler]
>>27918475
yep, End of Evangelion. the only acceptable Eva movie to me. that Asuka scream was good enough to make it the best.
>>27918799
I actually watched Death and Rebirth knowing exactly what to expect. That was an odd choice.
Corey in the House just moves me
>>27918128
Why doesn't Death Note have a phenomenal story?
Anyone here anticipating the new flcl seasons? I'm pretty conflicted on whether they should even by making them in the first place. We all know how diebuster turned out.
>>27918876
Because it's popular and liked by Normies and we're not allowed to like things that are popular and liked by normies
>>27918081
I don't get the Steins;gate meme.
It was ok, but not phenomenal. Time travel loops are nothing new in the medium.
I especially don't get the Mayushii meme. Her eyebrows are uncanny, her personality is uncanny and boring, and frankly she deserved all the deaths she got for that cringeworthy "doot doo doot" shit.
Makise Kurise is a fanservice character (muh americanised haafu genius qt), and the MC is borderline insane/retarded to begin with, and not in a good way.
>>27918857
Oh I saw him on kimmy schmitt today.
>>27918901
No I dnt get the hype of that show...robots coming out.his head and some girl from putyer space on a yelliw bike?
I was little it probly.just went over my head.
what's wrong with liking death note
i never see anime come close to this, even that ginga eiyuu crap can't beat this one
obviously best anime in the history
>>27918953
I'm not a huge fan of the show but I can understand why people like it. Very few shows, or really any medium of entertainment can properly pull off a time travel plot and make it work. What really made me shave off points is the first few episodes. I know they're important for setting up the later episodes in the latter half of the series but that doesn't make them less boring.
>>27918336
Sorry, not all of use are contrarian newbies who have only ever watched Haruhi and want to stand out in discussions.
Death note was good. Like how they outsmarted each other. Liked the beginning light was like dammit who is this guy!
He died tho.that was the first time I seen a good guy die in an anime I think ( and not brought back with dragonballs) I was like wtf.
>>27918910
>tfw watched it back in 2006 with subbed on youtube and veoh
>was fucking hyped as fuck about it but couldn't talk to my normie friends at school about it
>listened to all three ost for hours in bed before sleep on my psp
it was a great time, after that it was hard to find an awesome anime. These worked so far, in order in which I watched them:
>code geass
>steins;gate
>one punch man - was OK
>ping pong
ping pong was very awesome, watched the last few episodes over and over, same with the last 5 episodes with code geass. very powerful hype
Everytime I watch NGE I find myself unable to keep it together. Truly a masterpiece.
>>27919134
>>code geass
Careful. You're going to get shat on by wannabe anime connoisseurs.
I'm gonna be that guy and say Naruto.Unironically.
>>27917403
Death Note was really great until L died, other than that I don't know why people hate it. I wish the story had expanded more on that whole Shinigami thing, I still feel it was a bit of a waste to have supernatural elements in a story that ultimately only focused on humans. The death god world looked promising. But be careful what you wish for or else Bleach happens.
If I had to pick just in terms of story... don't know if you guys will accept this as "story" but I pretty much like everything about Black Lagoon and Hellsing. A good story doesn't have to be purely psychological, GATE is also really cool.
So for GITS Arise did they bring the eng dub cast back?
>>27919187
Not him but I liked Code Geass, and who gives a fuck about people who act superior based on what anime they like? That's literally the dumbest shit to act superior over. Most of those people who talk about 'patrician taste' most likely eat mindless harem and moe shit up anyway so who fucking cares what internet anime crusaders think?
>>27919217
It's a good shonen desu
>>27919240
Not only that, but each plotline has its own share of fun fantasy with thrilling mental moves. It keeps you gripped with how well they execute every battle.
>>27917403
>Deathnote
not just autistic normies, but also pleb af, fucking kill youserlf subhuman
How has nobody brought up this one yet?
=code geas was good.
Lulu made me think a lot.
World you want to destroy the world lime his parents or would ypu did what lulu did.
And his mother ending up betraying him or whatever, that was good.
And the end was good too but I felt bad for nanully. His requim was great.
>>27919332
What makes an anime 'pleb'?
That's just code word for 'stop liking what I dont like, or if you dont, I'll vaguely insult you'
>>27919362
I think he's just one of the guys who hates mainstream anime. I used to say the same about people who liked InuYasha.
>>27919274
I actually haven't seen it all the way through. What would you recommend, the original series or shippuden?
>>27919274
yeah -- I've always been a big fan but I never bring it up unless it's ironically since everyone thinks it's shit tier because a lot of normies liked it. it was a good run, except that weird ass ending.
>>27919404
you have to see both the original and shippuden to understand the whole plot. shippuden is basically the next season, not a different plot.
does gundam thunderbolt count? even though its quite short, i found myself really caring about the characters.
>>27919404
The original series for sure. It'd probably be hard to follow what's going on in Shippuuden without seeing the original first.
Come to think of it digimon did have a good story.
It didnt cross my mind cus I thought of it as a kids show.
But they way their parens created the digital world or what eve and that guy who put spores in the kids and how the kids learned about friendship, kindness, love, courage and whatever their crest meant and on the loser train all learned lessons and became friends....theres a lot. I learned a lot.
>>27917403
ping pong the animation is one of the best shows I've ever watched
Inuyasha...such.good music...adult swim memories.
>have watched a bunch of animes (samurai x, samurai champloo, ranma 1/2, cowboy bebop and death note)
>they all are great and gave me good times
>I want more animes but all the rest look so weird, I don't understand them since im not a weeaboo faggot
>>27919536
ranma is pretty weeaboo dude
>>27917403
Anime is shit, read manga.
Oyasumi Punpun.
>>27918165
>>27919235
No.
This is the cast for SAC
http://myanimelist.net/anime/467/Ghost_in_the_Shell__Stand_Alone_Complex/characters
This is the cast for Arise (the OVAs)
http://myanimelist.net/anime/17187/Ghost_in_the_Shell__Arise_-_Border_1_Ghost_Pain/characters
You'll notice that both the Japanese and English VAs are completely different.
This is the cast for Arise Alternative Architecture (the TV series)
http://myanimelist.net/anime/29325/Ghost_in_the_Shell__Arise_-_Alternative_Architecture/characters
It's the same as the Arise VAs, and there is no English dub yet.
>>27919536
Have you watched Black Lagoon? If you liked the shows you just listed you'll probably like that too.
Rate my taste please and thank you
>Cowboy Bebop
>JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
>Cromartie High School
>Death Note
>Crayon Shin-Chan
>Yu Yu Hakusho
>Legend of the Galactic Heroes>One Piece pre-Thriller Bark
>>27919596
i only watch anime on netflix / 10
>>27918953
>don't get the mayushii meme. her eyebrows are uncanny, her personality is uncanny and boring, and frankly she deserved all the deaths she got for that cringeworthy "doot doo doot" shit.
you better shut the fuck up 'fore you get smacked the fuck up
>>27919583
Well I don't like the idea that the main character is female but it looks interesting and I'll give it a try anon, thanks.
>>27919629
Only one of those is on Netflix, though.
weeaboo in training, I've only watched a handful of shows
>tfw backlog 70+ shows long
that's like 1000 hours of fucking sitting on my butt and watching chinese cartoons what a life
>>27919655
The main character is a guy.
>>27919655
Technically Rock is the main character but Revy does get a lot of screen time. She's a really good character though, I think.
>>27919677
Present DAY, Present TIME HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>27919347
if you mean the first 3 seasons exclusively, then yes
>>27918207
No exact comparison. If five finger death punch got any airplay on top 40 they would be it.
>>27919386
>>27919362
Back 10-15 years ago when people were all over Inuyasha, that's honestly the only anime where I had that reaction where I judge your taste in anime if that's all you liked or talked about. The fans were too rabid and couldn't take criticism about a mediocre at best show. I don't really take that into account now so I won't look down on >>27919520 since bygones are bygones.
When I read anything like "pleb" now I see it as entry level. It just so happens to be that a lot of the entry level stuff is excellent or very relatable to american audiences. I don't even like Naruto or Bleach but I get their mainstream appeal. Both Code Geass and Death Note are shows that had excellent early-mid arcs and didn't know how to end well but that doesn't make them bad.
Op, as for myself, pic related. Eureka 7 is one of those shows either people hate it or love it, so feel free to disregard any of the above.
>>27919677
>giving Lain a 6
Get off my board pleb.
>>27919754
the only thing I like about lain the aesthetic
not enough to carry a nonsensical plot with pointless symbolism and a GLACIAL pace
>>27919754
>quantifying anime experience with numbers
>>27919722
I mean the first season exclusively. I haven't seen tamers in years, though.
>>27919740
Death Note was pretty good until episode 25, show should have ended there, considering most anime end there anyway. There was just no way they could create something that the viewer would care about more/the same as Light vs L that late into the show.
>>27919838
I feel the exact same way about Gurren Lagann, I think it should have ended at episode seven (or whichever one where the glorious badass dies) or just had maybe three more episodes where the kid saves the world. I think GL's 20+ episodes worked against it considering the first seven (sans the shitty bathhouse one) were so fantastic (mainly due to the heroic badass who won't be named to avoid spoilers.)
>>27919912
I thought the same thing after watching kill la kill. They should have just made it 12 or so eps
>>27919966
kek, I'm anticipating an endless chain of comments listing out every anime ever made that should have ended early, though I think we got the top three out of the way
>>27917403
>Death Note
Top zozzles
My vote goes to HxH.
What started out as some battle shounen became this immersive world of philosophy, politics, and such raw emotion.
I cried at the end of the Chimera arc desu
>>27919796
your pic wasn't even from the first season, spergo
>>27918081
1. *Kurisu
2. It was Mayuri that said "tuturu~"
>>27919912
shit taste tbpfh
second season is the only redeemable factor
ALSO KAMINA DIES LOLOL
>>27920083
the beginning of the second season is terrible
but it gets good near the end
>>27920037
My favorite arc was the phantom troop one.
>>27919677
>evangelion: 10
lol
>>27920123
end of evangelion is a literal 10/10 and the standard that everything else should be compared to, a "vitruvian man" if you will
>>27920077
>>27918081
>Kurisu
Stop being tryhards and call her Christina.
>>27917403
Death Note was pretty good until the "thing that happens" happened and they introduced Near and Mellow. They just pulled two totally uncompelling characters with out of nowhere and dragged out a few more seasons. I did think the ending was great but from 2/3rds of the way in until the last episode it kind of sucked tbqh.
>>27919553
Agreed. Anime just can't compare.
>>27920195
From Episode 25 to episode 34ish it was kinda meh. It wasn't bad though, just below the standard the show previously set up. Like I said before, they're so far in the show it's kinda hard to establish new characters so suddenly and still make the viewer care about them when you just had a whole season worth of Light vs L
>>27920175
her namae is makise
>>27918953
>talking shit about Mayushii
>talking shit about Queen Makise
Meet me outside in 5 minutes. I'm gonna kill you
>>27917403
it was a good story, until they killed off L
the whole plot was based around the two characters fighting it in mindgames, light vs L
and then out of nowhere they just decide to kill L by having this dumbass shinigami that was attached to misa for no reason
she wasn't attached to misa before the other shinigami died either, knew nothing about her and yet decided to die for her.
Then they brought in two characters nobody could care less about, N and Mellow. N looking like a younger version of L which is just sad considering they could have continued with the original characters.
The ending should have been L finally capturing Light, they would have had a much more sad ending if it was as there was a level of friendship between the two.
t b h the whole anime went down the toilet after L died
>>27920267
>t b h the whole anime went down the toilet after L died
Agreed
>The ending should have been L finally capturing Light
What the fuck? Nobody wanted L to win, Light is fucking justice, man
>>27920195
L DIES ISN'T IT FUNNY LOLOL
>>27917403
PURUPURU PURURIN
PURURIN
PURUPURU PURURIN
PURU PURURIN
PURUPURU PURURIN
PURURlN
>tfw that one fanfic ending for Deathnote about Light dying in every way he killed a person was actually really good
![2021271-konachan.com___112123_game_cg_huke_okabe_rintarou_steins_gate_trap_urushibara_ruka[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/JWpoZNA.jpg "2021271-konachan.com___112123_game_cg_huke_okabe_rintarou_steins_gate_trap_urushibara_ruka[1].jpg")
>>27920265
Stare long and hard at this picture so you finally realise who the best character in your overrated show is.
>>27919838
>>27920195
I'm in agreement, a world in which Light wins, and leave it be a fairly dark/unresolved ending with the possibility of another season that doesn't go in the exact direction it did, or at least flesh out characters and themes better.
One of the main themes of the best part of the show was Divine Providence vs Human act, and Light slowly seeing his actions as Divine, and they did build off of that but It only referenced those themes after a while instead of coming to a satisfactory conclusion. In other words, stuff happens with no real weight to it. The themes were in place but it didn't expand on them after the big event. In addition, the main attraction, L vs Light, the character/drama between those two, is simply gone and can't carry the show after that arc ends.
>>27920083
>>27919912
I think the truth is somewhere in between here. There was absolutely a story to be told after episode 7, and yet the beginning of the second season is slow. It is world building and does end up building into one hell of a climax. It's just a bumpy road getting to the buildup IMO, but once it gets going it's off to the races.
>>27919787
Most everyone I ever talked to or seen anime is more defensive about their hobby than any other form of entertainment outside of that particular class of hipster audiophile. If people were to tone it down and not be so caught up with ranking whichever show due to feeling their tastes are validated we would all have a much better time.
>>27920447
>Most everyone I ever talked to or seen anime is more defensive about their hobby than any other form of entertainment
Yes, I think many of us have noticed that.
Why do you think that is?
Perhaps because anime as a hobby in the West was built around being different from the mainstream? Or perhaps it's something else?
>>27920123
the series itself is a 7-9 but the movie end of evangelion is a 10. truly a masterpiece
>>27920387
but she's a d00d
>>27920607
Not in the alternate timeline she isn't.
>>27920607
And that matters.. why?
>>27920447
>Most everyone I ever talked to or seen anime is more defensive about their hobby than any other form of entertainment outside of that particular class of hipster audiophile.
And we fucking should be. You see what happened to fucking capeshit? I don't want people to love that FMA Live action to push our shit out of the fucking market. I don't give a flying fuck if anime stays as fucking bullshit fanservice degenerate pedophilic brain candy, i don't want fucking normies to get involved in this meduim further than OP tier shit because if i have to listen to the progressive left anymore in my entertainment, i'm going to go full metal elliot. Let them have Memenote, meme;gate, xxxmemes, full metal mememist, sailor meme, soul memer, Memeuto, One Meme, Cowboy Memebop, Memeshishi, Meme!, Memegeki no Kyojin and the likes (some of which are classic and great). Just don't let them influence or smother what is happening now. It will happen. Just like vidya.
>>27920775
Wont happen. Japan is uncucked and gives no fucks what a few Western SJWs think.
>>27920938
you're a total autistbut you're right
no kikes in japland
>>27920938
>>27921012
you're fools.
>>27921031
Ok Miyazaki is pretty much a Jap sjw but most japs are pretty based desu
So in death note if the show ended with " the event" would you have been happy?
Light started out good but didnt he kill his dad? I havrnt watched it in years.
And
Would lt have been better or apeal to you more if a neet rather than a guy who has it all found the deathnote? Maybe starts out neet and after he finds it becomes normie?
>>27919677
>Shinsekai 5
literally fucking jump off a bridge desu senpai
>>27920519
It's hard to say. People like certain things and many want feel validated for liking their particular tastes in something, but that's true of music, tv, movies, and the like, each having it's own community of elitist snobs.
I'd like to think of it this way. There aren't a lot of elitist snobs when it comes to film, music, television compared to the scores of people who are being entertained by it. All of it is native, accessible and even if it's got depth, it's always something the mainstream can understand.
Anime isn't accessible, native, nor is it something westerners automatically understand. This means several things. You have a much smaller community of people who enjoy anime. The people who do enjoy it will have put plenty of effort into what they like. You have more elitist snobs per fan base than other far more accessable mediums. Considering the effort it takes to even get to entry level tier, the people who stick around usually follow through to become more casual fans or weebs.
I was going to go off more about how many people with more discerning tastes also tend to seek different things and don't want the foreign mixed with the native, causing people to become purists, but >>27920775 summed up what my thoughts are on that. Laughed pretty hard at some of that.
When internet culture and video games became more accessible, less foreign and way more accepting to mainstream sensibilities, I can totally see why you feel that way man.
I bet all of us that were here here for more than a few years had that moment where a family member said meme in mid conversation and we just cringed and tried to like it never happened.
They already are and will continue to try to make a buck off anything hipsters/elitists find cool.
>>27921208
I thought it was incredibly boring with shitty characters and had awful pacing, wasted potential to the fullestsquealer did nothing wrong
>>27917403
Death Note is baby tier when compared to Monster. Johan was a much better antagonist and arguably the best villain in anime history
>>27921299
Shut the fuck up. Monster is literally the worst 77 or so episodes of dumb shit I've ever wasted my time watching. HE LITERALLY HAS THE CHANCE TO KILL JOHAN MULTIPLE TIMES AND DOESNT FOR NO REASON
>>27917403
I did like how it started as a good vs evil story but quickly becomes two smart narcasists who don't care who gets hurt they just want to win.
Pretty good.
>>27921356
Tenma had morals. He was unable to kill Johan because he believed everyone is equal and no one deserves to die which is a concept that many people have, including me. I love it because I could sympathize with Tenma and comprehend why he refused to kill Johan. Even in the very end he saved Johan's life instead of letting him die, anon.
Another anime that uses a similar concept is Trigun, a story about Vash the Stampede, a man that can supposedly destroy an entire city with a single gunshot, and has billions worth of bounty on his head. Yet he refuses to kill a single person because he is a pacifist, much like Tenma.
>>27919677
Why haven't you rated Welcome to the NHK. What the fuck is wrong with you? Are you even a robot?
>>27921445
I'm scared to watch it, I'm not feeling good mentally and I don't want to exacerbate it
>>27921215
>They already are and will continue to try to make a buck off anything hipsters/elitists find cool.
Maybe we just need to get smellier
>>27919740
>Ctrl f eurek
>1 result
My nig. I remember being so hype every week for those episodes. I also sort of accidentally had a huge fucking crush on Eureka for like, 2 or 3 years.
>>27921458
Watch texhnolyze it'll cheer you up.
>>27920775
>Just like vidya.
It's had a few slip-ups here and there, but vidya is still standing. I mean Hatred still got greenlit, despite some initial bullshit.
Also despite rape-lay getting discontinued, there are still tens of thousands of rape games on dlsite. That's not even getting into h-manga/doujinshi and h-anime.
>>27921458
It made me feel better in the end.
I didnt even know there were other ppl dealing with.things like that.
Felt.not so alone. Felt a little hope.
>>27921624
+1 eureka 7 is one of my favs, i even enjoyed AO (even though i know it was shit) just because it was in the same universe (kind of)
>>27918225
OP is talking about anime, not cartoons.
>>27918953
>Makise Kurise is a fanservice character
She is nothing of the sort.
>>27919536
Nobody understands them until they start watching them.
>>27921215
>Anime isn't accessible, native, nor is it something westerners automatically understand.
The number of people who understand anime is extremely small. I often see people with many years of experience who are just completely clueless and essentially indistinguishable from someone who's only seen DBZ. Those people make up the majority of anime communities.
>>27922569
>Makise Kurise is a fanservice character
Is too.
She's literally a channer (I wonder whom that's supposed to appeal to), who just happens to be incredibly successful and pretty and desired.
The only thing distinguishing her from My-little-Shit-can't-be-this-cute is intelligence and presence of personality.
She suddenly gets all teary and emotional when Okabe gets a little emotionally aggressive with her, in a fabricated display of moe to give her some extra glitter.
It doesn't help that she generically falls in love with the MC, because plot, and totally not for people to project themselves on.
Soldier girl is way better as an original character.
I'm not saying I don't like Christina either, she's great, but we have to admit the facts as well.
> I often see people with many years of experience who are just completely clueless
Could you elaborate please? In what sense are these people "clueless"? What exactly do you mean by "understanding" anime?
You mean understanding underlying motifs and themes?
Wait, what do you mean "understand" anime?
I thought that Bible Black had a pretty good story.
>>27921356
don't hate on chinese batman
>>27922868
>She's literally a channer
People literally use chans in Japan. 2channel is, or at least was, Japan's version of Reddit in terms of popularity and influence.
>who just happens to be incredibly successful and pretty and desired
What an amazing and unlikely set of qualities for a fictional character to have.
>The only thing distinguishing her from My-little-Shit-can't-be-this-cute is intelligence and presence of personality.
She doesn't have anything to do with Kirino. You are just trying to create a negative association, or what you think is a negative assocation (Oreimo is one of my favorite anime).
>She suddenly gets all teary and emotional when Okabe gets a little emotionally aggressive with her, in a fabricated display of moe to give her some extra glitter.
There is no such thing as "a display of moe." Moe is something the viewer feels towards the character, not something the character projects at the viewer.
>It doesn't help that she generically falls in love with the MC, because plot, and totally not for people to project themselves on.
Yes, it sure is amazing that the heroine of the story falls in love with the hero.
>we have to admit the facts as well.
I didn't see any facts, I just saw ill-informed speculation.
>Could you elaborate please? In what sense are these people "clueless"?
They don't understand anything about anything. They just spout memes all day long and blindly repeat every bit of misinformation that comes their way.
>What exactly do you mean by "understanding" anime?
Anime is the result of Japanese culture, subculture, society, history and language, even things that the Japanese themselves don't consciously think about. The anime industry is vast and complicated, features many thousands of works, and is deeply connected to other industries. Then there's otaku culture, which is itself a complicated and contested area of study. Understanding anime requires more or less understanding all of these things.
>>27923077
this absolutely must be bait
>>27923120
How does it absolutely must be bait? What did I say that could be seen as bait?
>>27923162
keep going, this is amusing
I've never seen anything that presents a story like Yuri Kuma did.
I wouldn't say it's the best story, but it's probably one of the best presentations of one I've ever seen.
>>27923191
Do you or do you not have an explanation for your accusation that I'm baiting?
>>27923077
>People literally use chans in Japan. 2channel is, or at least was, Japan's version of Reddit in terms of popularity and influence.
I don't think it was quite that widespread, anon. All it takes to figure that out is to actually look at just how much chan culture is referenced in anime. The only two I can think of are Steins;gate and Lucky Star, and that's saying something, since the latter is basically just otaku meta.
>What an amazing and unlikely set of qualities for a fictional character to have.
She's the only one in that anime who has them. Soldier girl doesn't lecture at universities.
>(Oreimo is one of my favorite anime).
That's... whatever. I'll refrain from judgement.
>Moe is something the viewer feels towards the character, not something the character projects at the viewer.
It works both ways. It's not like shows don't use specific techniques and formulas to elicit moe reactions in viewers.
You can just as easily say that about any emotional reaction to any medium.
That's just a relativist position, and you're obviously not a relativist, since you feel the need to challenge my opinions on the matter.
>Yes, it sure is amazing that the heroine of the story falls in love with the hero.
It's not amazing, it's actually predictable, which kind of corroborates my point. Mind you, I'm not saying it's bad or anything.
>They don't understand anything about anything. They just spout memes all day long and blindly repeat every bit of misinformation that comes their way.
I was hoping for a few more specific examples.
You mean like /a/, or something?
>Understanding anime requires more or less understanding all of these things.
Context is important, but lack of it serves as an impediment only to some series which are heavily based on meta or Japanese word-play, etc.
I don't need to know everything about Russian history and culture to understand Dostoevsky.
>>27923120
It looks likely, but I'll go with it for now.
>>27923120
Random lurker here, just want you to know I laughed my ass off at your pic
>>27921239
Came here to mention this, thought it was fantastic.
>>27919553
>>27920221
Punpun either ruined or saved my life, I'm not sure which.
>>27923291
>>>27923077
>>People literally use chans in Japan. 2channel is, or at least was, Japan's version of Reddit in terms of popularity and influence.
>I don't think it was quite that widespread, anon. All it takes to figure that out is to actually look at just how much chan culture is referenced in anime. The only two I can think of are Steins;gate and Lucky Star, and that's saying something, since the latter is basically just otaku meta.
2ch was, or possibly still is THE biggest online community period. Bigger than Gaia, bigger than Reddit, bigger than Something Awful. I'm not sure if that's still the case, but 2ch and it's memes were all over anime, especially in shows like Nurse Witch Komugi and I believe even Puni Puni Poemy had some.
Not the guy you were responding to.
>>27923331
>random lurker here
that's what we all say
I'm not sure I'd say the story was great, but have any robots ever watched this shit?
It's robot as fuck, especially when you get to the end and find out what it's actually about.
>>27919677
>you're ratings
>>27923382
if it's a manga why is it moving
>>27923405
>2ch was, or possibly still is the biggest online community period. bigger than gaia, bigger than reddit, bigger than something awful.
none of those, even reddit, is even close to being "the" biggest online community
>>27923434
Whatever, the point still stands.
http://archive.wired.com/culture/lifestyle/news/2007/04/2channel
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2004/05/09/world/japanese-find-a-forum-to-vent-most-secret-feelings.html
It's very huge, very influential in Japanese culture and you probably just haven't noticed it because you're an outsider looking in.
>>27919677
>psg
>7
i don't respect your opinion
>>27923291
Yes it was that widespread. 2channel is the Reddit of Japan, but 2chan (or Futaba Channel) is the 4chan of Japan... or where 4chan came from.
It's also safe to assume Steins;Gate was made by otaku anyway.
>She's the only one in that anime who has them. Soldier girl doesn't lecture at universities.
And Kurisu isn't a super strong fighter. What's your point?
>It works both ways.
Moe is a feeling the viewer has towards a character. It can't be forced.
You're also severely paranoid if you think any display of emotion is a cunning, devious plot to trick otaku into liking the character as the creators laugh all the way to the bank.
>It's not amazing, it's actually predictable, which kind of corroborates my point.
So you're complaining about a bog standard, commonplace feature of fiction?
>I was hoping for a few more specific examples.
Here is a very recent example from the ANN forums, in response to a government official wondering if Love Live should be part of the Olympics somehow:
>What better way to advertise to the world Japan's infatuation with little girls. :rolling eyes:
The user registered in 2009, so he's been active in anime for at least seven years but likely longer than that.
He is using the "little girls" meme, or the myth that anime characters are usually prepubescent girls when in fact they're usually in high school or middle school. He is confusing anime characters with real people and treating them as interchangeable, which is completely wrong and a huge mistake. He is implying (at least if you ask me) that Love Live is some kind of excercise in pedophilic masturbation material. He probably has no familiarity with Love Live at all, but that doesn't stop him from talking about as if he did. Having no familiarity with it is also strange given how popular and recent it is.
I could write a book about how clueless most people in the Western anime community are. They just get everything wrong and seem to have no interest in learning anything.
>>27923291
>I don't need to know everything about Russian history and culture to understand Dostoevsky.
You don't need to know anything about Japan to understand the story of Oreimo either, but that doesn't mean you actually understand Oreimo.
>>27923434
2chan and 2channel are different sites. The former is equivalent to 4chan, the latter is equivalent to Reddit.
>>27923498
>And Kurisu isn't a super strong fighter. What's your point?
My point is that her set of characteristics specifically appeals to otaku and is (slightly) less realistic than a girl knowing martial arts.
>You're also severely paranoid if you think any display of emotion is a cunning, devious plot to trick otaku into liking the character as the creators laugh all the way to the bank.
Ok, now you're just twisting my entire point and putting words in my mouth.
When did I ever use words like "cunning" and "devious"? Neither did I say "forced".
I'm just saying there are techniques that are more likely to elicit a moe reaction from a viewer than others, and those are used to commercial advantage.
In the same way that a writer or poet tries to elicit reactions and emotions in readers by using specific literary techniques and lexis. Are poets all evil demons to you who "cunningly" "force" reactions out of you?
Stop with these silly implications.
You can't project moe at a blank slate. There has to be something in the character that makes you feel it. The feeling comes from you, but is *caused* by the character design.
>So you're complaining about a bog standard, commonplace feature of fiction?
When did I ever complain about anything? I'm just pointing it out.
So much for accusing me of attaching negative connotations to things.
As for your reference to the Love Live affair, I haven't seen it, so I shall refrain from comment. I don't necessarily agree that his reaction betrays a lack of "understanding of anime". Different people have different interpretations of what various characters and tropes represent. I don't agree with him either, but I can't say his view is invalid.
>You don't need to know anything about Japan to understand the story of Oreimo either, but that doesn't mean you actually understand Oreimo.
In that case I don't see what you believe is necessary to understand Oreimo.
>>27923538
>You don't need to know anything about Japan to understand the story of Oreimo either, but that doesn't mean you actually understand Oreimo.
OK, I guess I agree with this, since it's a niche show.
>>27917403
the ending was complete shit though, should have gone full edgelord then that cop out of a ending
>>27923655
There is no specific set of characteristics that appeal to otaku. That's why harem shows, idol shows and dating sims have a broad variety of different characters. Being successful and attractive are also generically popular qualities that have nothing in particular to do with otaku.
Anime is, as a rule, not concerned with realism, and Kurisu being a girl genius is at any rate more realistic than Suzuha taking out an armed black ops unit with her bare hands.
>Ok, now you're just twisting my entire point and putting words in my mouth.
I'm really not. This is all the same shit I've heard a million times by now.
>When did I ever use words like "cunning" and "devious"? Neither did I say "forced".
You say this like this is about the specific words you used. It's not. It's about this:
>Makise Kurise is a fanservice character
>I'm just saying there are techniques that are more likely to elicit a moe reaction from a viewer than others, and those are used to commercial advantage.
How can you prove that they were using "techniques" to "elicit reactions" for "commercial advantage"?
>You can't project moe at a blank slate.
The designers and writers can't make anyone feel moe or predict who will feel it and why. Anno created one of the most popular, iconic characters of all time without ever intending it.
>When did I ever complain about anything? I'm just pointing it out.
Uh huh.
>Different people have different interpretations of what various characters and tropes represent.
He is just plain wrong and ignorant.
>In that case I don't see what you believe is necessary to understand Oreimo.
Many people think it's promoting incest because they don't understand that 2D is 2D and 3D is 3D. Or they'll say it's "pedophilic" because Kirino is "underage," again not understanding the differences between 2D and 3D. They also completely miss the otaku aspects of the story.
>>27923848
>Kurisu being a girl genius is at any rate more realistic than Suzuha taking out an armed black ops unit with her bare hands.
Ok, I agree with you here. Perhaps "fanservice" was the wrong word. I would have to rewatch it to refresh and reconstruct my thoughts on that.
>How can you prove that they were using "techniques" to "elicit reactions" for "commercial advantage"?
Human perceptions of cute things are grounded in evolutionary biology. If you draw things that objectively look cute, couple them with certain tropes and behaviours, you are more likely to elicit moe. This is really simple stuff, honestly.
>The designers and writers can't make anyone feel moe
Again, no less than a writer can "make" me experience sympathy for a character in his story. That's just wordplay.
>Anno created one of the most popular, iconic characters of all time without ever intending it.
Since you started the burden of proof game, can you prove this? Do you have direct access to a person's mind?
I mean, we can't tell a writer's specific intentions, but do you seriously believe that the creators of a story or character have no general idea of what sort of reaction it's supposed to elicit from the audience?
Don't you think they have something in mind when planning out a certain scene or considering a character trait?
Do you seriously believe that the creator's intentions have nothing to do with your (the viewer's) attitude towards a character?
Have you ever created a story or written a character?
>>When did I ever complain about anything? I'm just pointing it out.
>Uh huh.
So now you have access to my mind as well?
You really are a troll.
I think I'll stop wasting my time here.
>>27917403
Watamote is the best anime for me.
Nothing will ever be as relatable as it is for me.
>>27924145
>Human perceptions of cute things are grounded in evolutionary biology. If you draw things that objectively look cute, couple them with certain tropes and behaviours, you are more likely to elicit moe. This is really simple stuff, honestly.
Yes, but you need to prove that the creators were engaged in cynical, calculated behavior.
Visual novels are made by otaku for otaku, and there isn't really any difference between creators and end users in Japan.
>Again, no less than a writer can "make" me experience sympathy for a character in his story. That's just wordplay.
He can't make you experience anything. He can't decide to make a "moe character" and then have everyone feel moe towards her. Some people will feel moe, others won't.
>Since you started the burden of proof game, can you prove this?
The term moe probably did not even exist at the time, and otaku culture was not focused on moe to the same extent it is now. Anno is known to be very critical of otaku.
Some people have claimed that Rei and Asuka were meant to be a criticism of otaku, especially the masturbation scene.
I suppose you're also going to claim that Miyazaki fully intended people to create pornographic doujinshi based on the girl character in Cagliostro.
>So now you have access to my mind as well?
I have a lot of experience with people like you.
>You really are a troll.
You don't know what that means. That's ok, neither do 99,99% of other people.
>>27924414
>Yes, but you need to prove that the creators were engaged in cynical, calculated behavior.
No, you don't. Because that behaviour is not cynical, and isn't really as calculated as it is intuitive.
>He can't decide to make a "moe character" and then have everyone feel moe towards her. Some people will feel moe, others won't.
His success will depend on how good of a writer he is, but according to your logic, if he intends to write a moe character, and some people experience moe towards that character, then he has successfully "forced" them to experience moe, right? No, I think you would agree that that's wrong.
Which is why I don't see why you're using all this emotionally-charged vocabulary. It's like you're striving for emotional manipulation and are fundamentally dishonest, which is why I'm calling you a troll.
>I suppose you're also going to claim that Miyazaki fully intended people to create pornographic doujinshi based on the girl character in Cagliostro.
No, I'm going to claim that if you ask me to prove that literary techniques are used by writers to elicit emotions, then I'm going to ask you to prove all kinds of fundamentally unprovable, but all-round common sense shit too.
I haven't actually watched EVA, so I don't know what you're referring to.
>I have a lot of experience with people like you.
You mean people who disagree with you on things and have differing opinions?
Those are automatically hostile enemies to you that you feel you can sum up?
You've changed my opinion on the Kurisu thing, I can admit that, which shows that I'm willing to listen to reason and argument, right?
You're not showing yourself to be open to civil discussion if you automatically place me into some category you seem to have.
If there's nothing I can do a priori to convince you to change your mind, then I don't know why you're even bothering.
Unless you're a troll. You could prove me wrong by showing me you're open to changing your mind.
>>27923498
>>27923655
>>27923848
>>27924145
>>27924414
>>27924634
actual autism
relax you fucking retard, it's just a chinese cartoon for kids.
>>27924634
If you accuse the creators of something, you have to prove it. End of story.
>His success will depend on how good of a writer he is, but according to your logic, if he intends to write a moe character, and some people experience moe towards that character, then he has successfully "forced" them to experience moe, right?
It's not possible in the first place to create a moe character, no such thing exists.
Like all people who don't understand moe, you are overcomplicating things. Moe is simply a feeling of love, infatuation and excitement and such that people have towards a character they like. There are any number of different characters different people like for different reasons.
>Which is why I don't see why you're using all this emotionally-charged vocabulary. It's like you're striving for emotional manipulation and are fundamentally dishonest, which is why I'm calling you a troll.
What the hell are you talking about?
>No, I'm going to claim that if you ask me to prove that literary techniques are used by writers to elicit emotions, then I'm going to ask you to prove all kinds of fundamentally unprovable, but all-round common sense shit too.
I never said writers don't use literary techniques.
>You mean people who disagree with you on things and have differing opinions?
I mean people who spout nonsense like "she's a fanservice character!11"
>>27924693
We are not talking about a cartoon.
>>27924800
>Moe is simply a feeling of love, infatuation and excitement and such that people have towards a character they like.
I see, you subscribe to what I assume is an older definition of moe.
People use that word differently now, like they do with tsundere and others.
>>27924800
Just out of interest, what exactly do you like about Oreimo?
>>27924900
And what do you believe is the "new" definition of moe?
>>27924925
The characters and their interactions and all the otaku stuff. I don't care about the incest angle at all.
>>27924946
>And what do you believe is the "new" definition of moe?
Cuteness essentially. Or rather a specific reaction of endearment ("burning") caused by a collection specific character traits.
>>27925014
That's just a misconception of moe. It's not synonymous with cute, and the Japanese language already has a word for that.
>Or rather a specific reaction of endearment ("burning") caused by a collection specific character traits.
This is just the same definition I already presented.
Moe can mean either "burning" or "sprouting"/"budding," depending on which kanji is used. The most likely theory for the term is that someone meant to say the former (like "this character gets me fired up"), but it was auto-corrected to the latter.
>>27923077
>Understanding anime requires more or less understanding all of these things.
You've listed the things which, in your view, are necessary to understand anime, but you still haven't said what exactly it means to you to understand anime.
You mean to understand the medium itself as an object of study?
>>27925123
You have to understand the medium, and to understand the medium you must also understand all the other things I listed.
No Game No Life
Absolutely genius
>>27917403
Obviously Light... he was doing the world a favour
Can someone suggest me some anime with good dialogue? I feel most of the time it's a bit blunt and they hand you everything to think about on a platter. I'm sure there's some more complex layered series someone could suggest?
>>27919228
>Hellsing
mah nigga
>inb4 muh edgy linkin park meme
I don't care. Hellsing is GOAT
>>27921299
Monster is way too slow, boring and full of useless filler
Trust and Betrayal, and Rurouni Kenshin have been the dankest animes ive ever seen.
>>27923488
do you think it should be higher or lower
I thought it was decently funny and incredibly stylish, but some of the crudeness of the humor just got old after a bit
I dunno I value aesthetic and style a lot
FLCL is up there for me personally. I've watched it several times and I feel like each time I gain something new about the plot.
other than that I love Tatami Galaxy and Revolutionary Girl Utena a lot too, plus many other of the ones mentioned here. I love eva a lot too, but mostly EOE
Fate/Zero and Fate/Stay Night are pretty good t.b.h. famalam.
>>27924315
Doesn't seem like a really hard story to write. In fact, I'm pretty sure most of it came from the writer's own personal experience.
>>27917403
Macross or Hokuto no Ken
>>27926485
Kill la Kill. No exceptions.
>>27926485
>Anime with good dialogue
I love anime but jeez.
>>27921161
I thought the ending was necessary, and when he got shot by Masuda I came buckets. I personally thought it was ruined by the whole, "I'll give my Death Note to you, then you give yours to your Shinigami, then we'll bury it," stuff. After that it was garbage.
I want to say Utena or Evangelion because they're both original (not adaptations of a book or novel) series you can watch multiple times and continue to find things you never noticed the first time around. They both also have great soundtracks and production design. It's not that surprising that they share a couple staff members, plus the directors were acquaintances.
A recent series I'd like to watch but have yet to get into is Shin Sekai Yori/From the New World. I've heard a lot of good things about it.
>>27920775
>memegeki no kyojin
Why do people think they're impressive for using the Japanese name rather than the English one? It is legit the equivalent of saying "hajimemashite" to people when introducing yourself.
>>27927709
Why do you think there's supposed to be anything impressive about calling something by its name?
>>27927709
I read a lot of scanlated manga, and stuff usually doesn't get an English title until an anime comes out, so I get to know a lot of series by their Japanese names and just keep using them.
Not an AoT/SnK fan though.
>>27923498
you already wrote a book with all of your fucking posts holy shit
>>27928607
>you can't write long posts on 4chan!!11
Nice meme.
>>27927709
Fine, I'll call it boku no titan you fucking loser. I know it as shingeki no kyojin, that's all. Don't even pay attention to the rest of the message you dipshit, just ask why i feel the need to call it memegeki no kyojin.
>>27928711
good point, i will no longer criticize people for long posts. sorry that i did in the first place
>>27919740
I always thought FFDP were the new Disturbed.
>>27917403
ashita no joe
a literal nobody street thug who gets a chance to stand on the world stage and go blow for blow with the world champion
>>27928812
forgot to mention this was was more than a decade before rocky so don't even think of mentioning it
>actually liking meme note
>>27918081
KURISU A SHIT
A SHIIIIITTTTTT
>>27917403
Honestly, anime has pretty shitty storytelling in general, I've seen plenty enough to back up my opinion.
>>27919677
>Madoka 9
I honestly don't understand why people rate this shit so highly.
>>27927626
God dammit what it is it with anime and shitty dialogue?
Is it the subs I'm watching or something?
The dialogue feels so on the nose and boring, like it was inserted by a computer.
But again, it might be the subbers fault.
>>27917403
Ladies versus butlers. easy
>>27929548
No doubts someone who knows their nihongo will get a lot more out of their anime. A lot of the wits probably gets lost in the Gintama dialogue, and something like SZS seem pretty difficult to translate to a tee.
>>27929548
I have an anime whose dialogue is fun, but it's better in English....is that okay? It's called Panty and Stocking. Unless you mean intelligent dialogue, then you'll find something guaranteed with manga, but I don't read manga so can't tell you....sorry
>>27917403
Berserk - Fucked up shit to the point where there is absolutely 0 happiness. Refreshing since a bunch of shit now is too soft. The buildup is great if you dont watch the Eclipse first but nowadays spoilers are everywhere but regardless, fantastic manga, and the anime and film adaptations are decent.
death note was entertaining. i watched it honestly because i had finished hunterxhunter and wanted to peep what else madhouse has done.
hunterxhunter was really good i really enjoyed it. it was a bit slow but at the chimera ant arc damn it captivated me. excited to get off hiatus.
Sword Art Online is absolute shit i have no idea why i watched all of it. I guess its entertaining but really nothing to take away and theres a bunch of shit that happens that just makes you laugh at how stupid it is (fucking Yui the kid).
couldnt get into gurren lagaan. idk ill give it a second chance at some point.
cowboy bebop is a classic.
attack on titan is overhyped
>>27930066
oh and if you try attack on titan, dont do the fucking dubs. they fucking suck ass
lastly, evangelion is a classic.
>>27930066
AOT is overhyped like everything else, but damn if it isn't good. SAO is pretty to watch, otherwise it's the definition of a brainless show. It executed it's premise very well though....in the beginning. Also fuck Kirito.
S.E. Lain
Trinity blood
>>27930171
>>27930066
>Also fuck Kirito
Smh desu senpai
original
>>27929355
This desu. no idea why people stick to anime when there are so many great stories from other mediums.
sturgeons law.
Code Geass is the greatest anime by far. If you disagree you should seriously consider commiting suicide.
>>27932104
I loved geass, I really did.
Sadly the meme characters and the silly overturning of the Knightmares near the end of the anime ruined it for me.
Lelouch is my favourite character from any anime though.
>>27917403
L hey
>>27932357
Might I suggest hanging?
>>27932602
Oh fuck off this isn't /a/
Not mentioning muh kokoro connect
>implying inaba isn't best girl
>>27920775
>Memenote, meme;gate, xxxmemes, full metal mememist, sailor meme, soul memer, Memeuto, One Meme, Cowboy Memebop, Memeshishi, Meme!, Memegeki no Kyojin
>>27917403
Does anyone like Paranoia Agent?
It's fucking amazing even if the ending is shit
Fate/Zero is truly amazing. The characters have real motivations and not some ambiguous morals that could ruin their plan. I also like how pragmatic some of them are. Usually, any magic anime has some heroic mc with strong morals (i.e. shounen mc). But here, the mc goes after wizards with explosives and guns. Wizard waiting for a fair battle in his office building? He just blows it up entirely.
>>27933159
>fate/zero
Which "Fate" series should I watch first?
Are they sequels or just different stories?
>>27933202
If you like the aspects of anime I just listed (likeable and pragmatic characters instead of whiny little shits), just watch Zero. Everything else will disappoint you.
>>27933202
>>27933236
I think Fate/0 is also the first one chronologically
>>27917403
Deathnote was great for a while, but it turned out only okay after a while. I'd say Parasyte, because it was pretty consistently good.
>>27933304
>Memeasyte
Wew
>>27930066
>Berserk - Fucked up shit to the point where there is absolutely 0 happiness. Refreshing since a bunch of shit now is too soft. The buildup is great if you dont watch the Eclipse first but nowadays spoilers are everywhere but regardless, fantastic manga, and the anime and film adaptations are decent.
>mfw dat soundtrack for the anime
>>27918953
>and the MC is borderline insane/retarded to begin with, and not in a good way.
>and not in a good way
Nigger it's exactly in a good wa.
Heroic Age is pretty neat. Even tho humanity is nearly extinct, everything in the anime seems kinda happy. The dialogue isn't complex or good, but the overall story is quite nice. Also, there is almost no romance filler crap.
>>27919134
>>27919187
Code Geass was pretty much Death Note anyway. Replace shinigami with those immortal fuckers, replace death notes with geass and gg.
>>27933412
Code Gayass was fucking retarded
Autistic character designs and edgy le super smart teenager chessmaster OP
Here's my list since I started actively watching anime again, doesn't include things I watched before that like Death Note, NHK etc.
Attack on Titan
Sword Art Online
Accel World
Blue Exorcist
Akame ga Kill
Tokyo Ghoul
Parasyte -the maxim-
Deadman Wonderland
Another
Black Bullet
Hunter x Hunter
The Seven Deadly Sins
Hellsing Ultimate
Prison School
Danganronpa: The Animation
Aku no Hana
Soul Eater
Noragami
Assassination Classroom
Riddle Story of Devil
Code Geass
Steins;Gate
Chaos;HEAd
Black Butler
Future Diary
What should I watch next?
>>27933454
I'd take a smart and le intellectual main character over some whiny faggot any day. That's probably the main reason I liked it. Lulu and Kira get that far because they think about their actions, not storm into battle and get saved by deus ex machina or the power of friendship.
>>27933524
>Blue Exorcist
I fell for this too, it was shit.
Boring all the way through, and ends with the message "waahh, satan needs luv too!"
Watch whatever you've heard the most hype about.
>>27918876
it got shittyafter L died
>>27933524
How did you feel about Hellsing Ultimate?
>>27933621
I enjoyed it. Not the best but don't regret watching tbf.
So far everything on the list I've enjoyed enough that it wasn't a chore to watch to the end.
>>27933705
Was pretty good.
>>27917403
Grave of the Fireflies.
Such is real life.
chihayafuru is the most underappreciated anime of all time
of all time
I really like One Piece a lot but the anime is just too slow now, so I'm sticking with the manga. I really feel like I am routinely rewarded for my investment.
>>27917403
Gantz, it's just so intensely heroic, and in an sense, an epic.
>>27920037
how does it compare to YYH?
