>tfw eating 1200 calories a day
>tfw running 5 km every other day
>weigh myself
>fucking got one whole kg, back to 90
Why the fuck, what's even the fucking point, IM SO MAD FUCK THIS BODY ILL BE FAT ALL MY LIFE FUCK
>>27874391
>tfw eating 1200 calories a day
>tfw running 5 km every other day
>fucking got one whole kg, back to 90
Why don't i believe you?
>>27874391
Apparently (not from me now but from what I've been told) lifting makes you lose a lot of weight. I'm assuming your mass is made up from fat.
Do you keep snacking? Snacks are calories too.
>>27874391
if your 1200 calories are all from a huge cake it could be your reason
still feel like youre exaggerating but I eat 3000+ a day and still only weight 120lb (60kg) so I cant outright say you're lying
check out hypothyroidism.
>>27874391
>>27874415
Another thing, don't starve yourself, when your body is deprived it will eat through muscle before moving on to fat. Your body will also store calories in order for you to survive.
>>27874457
>1200 calories
>starve
>>27874415
>>27874436
Ive been lifting, running and dieting for 4 months, it's the first time I got a kg back it hurts
As someone who made some progressive in losing weight, let me give you some advice.
Weight loss is torture. Maintaining the weight you lost is also torture, but slightly less so. Unless you have the willpower and dedication to torture yourself and feel like death every day, you will not keep your progress. Look up the research, literally 99% of diets end in failure. In order to have a lower weight in today's society, you have to dedicate your entire life to the task.
So buckle up, buddy.
>>27874457
Are you fucking retarded? its not how it works
>>27874485
Well assuming you're not a manlet either, I'm 6'2" and require around 3000 to maintain my body weight.
Your weight can fluctuate quite a bit depending on what you do before you weigh yourself or even just when you weigh yourself. For me I can weigh the same thing for several days and then the next day I'll be 1.5kg lighter
If you weigh yourself consistently for a fortnight to a month an aren't losing anything then have a closer look at what you're eating.
wanna trade? i'm a skeleton that literally withers away if i don't eat like a fatass
i hate eating
>>27874510
It actually is, your body will go through muscle before removing fat if you're starving.
>>27874457
Op is lying, and eating at 1200 calories a day is not "considered starving", you might feel hungry but you have to push through it.
He is probably lying about running 5 kilometers as well.
>>27874511
OP doesn't want to maintain you retarded cunt, he wants to lose. In his situation he needs to eat under his TDEE.
1200 is perfectly except able.
I bet you drank like 4 L of water
try smoking OP you won't be as hungry and it's something to do that makes you feel as good as eating unless you really want to live into your 70's
>>27874511
1200 is literally the level advised for men when losing weight, you won't starve on it
>>27874541
>except able
You're calling me a retarded cunt m8? If OP wants to lose weight he should lift.
>>27874578
>If OP wants to lose weight he should lift.
Lifting weights won't make you magically thin, you stupid cunt. You still need to be dieting.
>>27874541
Shut the fuck up im not lying though
>>27874391
>smoke weed for 6 months
>drop from 95kg to 65kg
>stop smoking weed
>gradually gain weight again
Feeling good!
>>27874586
Angry manlet detected, works wonders for me.
>>27874590
Yes you are, 1200 and 5 km would make you shed the kilos like nothing. Don't lie, i know first hand as someone that did running my entire life.
I was eating and maintaining at 1700 calories.
>>27874609
Post your body, m8y. Let us see how it worked out.
>>27874501
Not tue. I lost around 50lbs over a year by eating less chocolate and drinking less sugary drinks and running 5km a few times a week. It wasnt a 'diet', I just stopped eating so much bad food. I still have a bottle of coke and some chocolate once every 2 weeks, so it isnt hard to maintain. I feel better, look better, and it was really easy to do.
>>27874635
>posting personal info on /r9k/
I know one of you weirdos will save it
>>27874615
Ive been on a diet for 4 months can't you read a thread?
I started around 110kg 4 months ago and was at 89 last week. I weigh myself every week.
>>27874391
>former skelly
>slow bulking for 3 months
>no time to drink 600 kcal supplement smoothie for a week
>lose 3 pounds
REEEEEEEEEEEE
>>27874669
Then why are you here bitching because you got back a kg? you moron
Your thread makes absolutely no sense.
>>27874669
You probably just ate/drank/didn't shit before weighing yourself
>>27874669
What's the problem then? Minor fluctuations in weight are not really note worthy.
>>27874699
Because I didn't fucking progress despite all my efforts and it's painful? Holy shit are you this dense?
>>27874746
But you just said you lost weight in your 4 months of dieting and running, why are you so retarded? Delete your thread.
>>27874730
Minor sure, I wouldnt mind stagnating or even gaining 500g, a whole kilo is a lot though, especially when you expected to weigh a kilo less than the previous week
>>27874781
How are you tracking your 1200 calories a week? post up your food intake and what you drink.
>Inb4 it's some garbage diet with a tremendous amount of sodium
So much retardation in this thread.
Calories in, calories out. That's it.
If you're actually running that much then you are NOT eating 1200 calories, plain and simple. If you Want to lose weight, use more calories than you consume.
And yes lifting can help lose weight if your diet is solid, any exercise burns calories.
OP you're not eating 1200 calories. Get rid of calorie dense foods like junk food and don't drink your calories, INCLUDING ALCOHOL.
It's not easy, but it is simple.
>>27874760
Im talking about this week alone, it depressed me so I posted here to vent my frustration after a hard week of fruitless effort. This shit never happened before and doesn't feel good
>>27874815
>>27874450
what am i doing wrong then. Why am I not gaining weight.
>>27874815
Don't worry m8, i already tried. OP is far gone and delusional. People will never understand calories in calories out, including the so called lifter above who suddenly turned thin from weights.
>>27874834
Because you aren't eating over your TDEE.
It's litrelly - that - simple
god fucking damn.
fatty probably running 5km over couple hours
start lifting you idiot
>>27874851
My tdee is sitting infront of a computer shitposting
I doubt im burning 1700 calories doing that.
>>27874815
>Calories in, calories out. That's it.
it's not really that simple, as a general rule this works but every body is different. how do you explain people who put on muscle easier, or gain fat faster, or lose weight quickly? genetics plays a large role and you have to cater calories to your personal needs
500 calories inside one person is not the same as 500 calories in another.
>>27874876
If you think you are eating over your TDEE and gaining weight, you aren't. I bet you don't even track your food intake. I've seen a lot of people posting saying they eat 3000 calories only for it to turn out to 1500-2000 at best.
nutrition isn't rocket science.
>>27874811
200 ml milk with 40g of oats every morning, plain chicken, rice, turkey, steamed potatoes, carrots, shrooms and greens in general, a banana after a workout. I only drink water.
Keeping track of it with mfp, weighing my food before every meal.
>>27874876
>>27874450
tell me everything you ate yesterday
>>27874898
>Keeping track of it with mfp, weighing my food before every meal.
Post your MFP screenshot, as well as all the calories totaling up with the food you just mentioned.
>>27874893
>calories in calories out is genetics
>>27874893
Yes it is that simple. A calorie is a calorie. Are you saying there are exceptions to thermodynamics?
>>27874391
your scale weight can fluctuate based on how much water and salt you have had dumbass
>>27874977
Yeah it's even funny after "4 months" he now just "noticed it".
>>27874897
I use fitness pall and meticulously measure every cup of oats, cup of milk, tablespoon of peanut butter.
I have a bmi if 14.
>>27874908
Alright, here ya go
breakfast:
oj 1 8oz glass (110)
green vibrance (45)
5 eggs scrambled w/ some olive oil (350 at least, didnt count oil)
chobani banana yogurt
Lunch
chick fila cheddar jack w/large fries and coke (1050)
Snack
.5 cup dry oats (150)
2 cups whole milk (293)
banana
2 scoops whey powder (240)
1 cup cottage cheese (163)
chobani banana yogurt (140)
double crisp choclate coal (440)
>>27874908
Why would I lie on the internet? I can post my meals from days prior too if you want, the only days I havent eaten 3000 are today and yesterday because work was busyand I got no break to eat.
>>27874966
explain my chad roommate then, he's like 6'4" and muscular as fuck and eats at most 2000 calories a day, sometimes even less. i see what he eats
how does he maintain such a muscular body? according to your simple calorie in/out he should be losing weight right? he doesn't do any special dieting or counting. today he had some small bowl of oatmeal for breakfast, subway for lunch, and some fried rice/veggie mix for dinner. he doesn't eat like you people claim to be that size. what else could it be other than genetics?
>>27875049
you work? i thought you shitposted on your computah all day.
>>27874501
This is bullshit. I lost 60 lbs over a year just by reducing my
Portion size and cutting out snacks. I have kept it off 1 year thus far
>>27875060
I work an office job that allows me to shit post all day, yes. Is that unfathomable to you? You really sound pretentious as fuck.
>>27875054
>he doesn't do any special dieting or counting
>and muscular as fuck
I hope you don't actually believe this, mate.
Don't even help, i stopped helping and let people sit in pity and crying over the weight after ignoring basic nutrition when it comes to calories in / out.
>>27875060
Oh, I still hit around 2500 on those days so dont think I dipped to some pussy 1200 calorie diet because I missed one meal.
>>27874501
False. I lost 30 pounds, haven't gained it back and all I eat is junk food.
Calories in calories out.
>>27874391
You're clearly baiting
>>27875087
i've watched him for well over a year now, even went to the gym with him for a while.
i'll believe what i see in real life and not what some /fit/ autists who aren't even scientists think works
>>27875136
>Muscular as fuck
>No diet
Mate, even i know you're retarded. Enjoy living in denial and crying over your weight and blaming it on genetics.
>1200cal
>5km/day
>not losing weight
You're either a masochist who wants people to call you a retard or you actually think you're eating 1200cal a day when you're obviously not.
>people actually think caloies in calories out is some fake garbage
my head hurts
I think Slim Fast honestly works the best for beginner calorie counters. I've lost a few lbs on it. Yes, i've been hungry, but it works and eventually you get use to eating less.
Replace 2 slim fast shakes with breakfast and lunch
You may have 3 100 calorie snacks during the day. I personally like smart pop 100 calorie popcorn bags, yasso frozen greek yogurt and special k chips
and a 500 calorie dinner. Dinner should be your last food intake of the day. Do not eat anything after 7pm. Work out 30 minutes a day and drink plenty of water.
Use a calorie tracking app that helps too.
>>27875178
it wont work since people here don't believe in calories. They will never make it.
>>27875156
you can't even refute me but just call me retarded
whatever makes you believe your own bullshit i guess. it's like you have never seen a naturally strong person in your life. makes sense with the basement dwellers over at /fit/ i suppose
>>27875240
Listen you clown, calories in and calories out is not genetics. Your "Muscular as fuck friend" follows a diet which is needed to replenish and continue to fuel the muscles. He eats enough calories where he is able to maintain.
>>27874908
>>27875016
Still waiting on a witty cals in cals out response bro.
Im thinking my macros might be off, but thats the only reason I can think of why im not gaining I usually only get 20% protein with most coming from carbs/other because I cant eat a lot of protein because I have kidney and liver problems.
Can you talk to me about what macros I should try to hit? That is actual productive talk other then cals in cals out. 350 cals from a sugar drink isnt the same as 350 from protein after all.
or did you just fall for the /fit/ meme?
>>27875295
Not him, but what's your weight and height? How much are you eating over your TDEE?
>>27875279
but i already told you i see his diet regularly. he doesn't check for protein, his portions aren't huge, and he definitely isn't getting the calories that some 6'4" 220lbs muscular dude would need (according to /fit/), yet he has that body.
>>27875369
You don't understand, even to be muscular as fuck at 6ft4 you'd need to do a lot more eating and lifting then regular since it takes a lot more effort and mass for it to show on someone that is tall. He is eating enough to maintain. You also haven't been watching him for a year and if so it's probably why you're a fat cunt and still cant lose weight. Focus on yourself and not your muscular boyfriend.
Holy fuck you're retarded., thinking you don't have to follow a diet to be muscular as fuck especially at 6ft4 where the weight will drop off you quickly.
>>27875359
Im 6'0-6'1
my weight currently is 128 (due to water shit)
my TRUE weight is roughly 123
I don't exercise period.
work an office job that has me sitting all day
and I sit all day at home except for when I cook.
I haven't taken the time to consider how many calories I expand during these day to day things.
>>27875369
>6ft 4
>muscular as fuck
>only eating 2000 calories a day,
>>27875431
I'm currently trying to work my way up to 4-5k cals to see if it helps but It's certainly a challenge.
>>27875359
>>27875431
according to an online calc my TDEE is roughly 2k so I'm always atleast 500 over that daily, but typically 1k-1.5k over.
>>27875418
>>27875450
ok it's clear this is going nowhere. i live with this guy, i see him everyday and i know my eyes don't lie to me. if i choose to believe you guys then he must be some kind of wizard that can magically hold on to muscle because muh calores in and out
>>27874391
start lifting aswell as running, you'll lose weight faster.
>>27875369
I just looked up the TDEE for someone that is 6ft4, just to maintain consists of 3000+ calories. I added in 90kg weight for that height since that is often what 6ft4 "muscular cunts" are usually at and or want to achieve at minimum. This is with MODERATE exercising as well.
>bb-bbbut he only eats 2000 calories if even i swear dude i watch him
>>27875528
he probably eats inbetween meals infront of you bro, I doubt you shadow this guy 24/7 unless youre some kind of fucking freak.
>>27875600
He is just a retarded cunt, who is blaming genetics on his weight. He cant accept it.
>>27874688
i have the same problem sucks if ur male... maybe i should just become a woman :^)
>>27874391
>every other day
so what do you do on the days that you don't run?
and maybe reduce calories, could have miscalculated
> losing weight consistently
> eat bananas fucking two times
> bloating and constipation
> weight is exactly it was when I started
JUST
>>27875466
I highly encourage you to see if you can up your calorie intake, when i bulk up i hit 1-2k above my TDEE and sometimes get on the dirty food to take me up the weight.
>mcdonalds
>KFC
>Hungary jacks
>Pizza
>Cakes
>etc..
>tfw miscounting my calories.
>tfw "running" for 5 "km" "every" day.
>tfw I don't understand basic physics or biology, and I think i can blame muh genetics
Kill yourself senpai, or learn to count. I've been eating at a deficit for just a few months now, and i'm 65 pounds down. If your burning more calories then your eating, you body can not magically produce the energy your using from nothing, your fat cells are not fucking magic.
>>27874538
well not if you have sufficient protein.
A diet of +150g protein will prevent the majority of muscle loss. You need protein every 3 hours or so, otherwise your body will consume amino acids from your muscles. So even if you eat right before bed theres a 4-5 hour gap of no protein.
Early humans would sleep for 4 hours, fuck and eat, and go back to sleep for 4 hours ;_;
>>27875660
I'm working on it definitely, I've already been able to do 1.7k two days in a row so 2k isnt that much more to add.
Sure wish I wasnt allergic to nuts.... would be so much easier.
Any advice on macros you care to share? I've been told to aim for 40% protein.
why are fat people so delusional
>>27874538
That's literally the opposite of what happens, the reason you store fat is so your body can burn it when you don't have any energy source
Where the fuck did this whole starvation mode bullshit come from? It makes no sense
>>27875849
let him be fat and live in misery you god damn normie
>>27875054
Was he muscular before you met him already?
Because if he is not working out that much, 2000 cal is simply to maintain his mass and size.
You eat above that amount to GAIN weight.
You eat below that amount, your body needs to function at 2000 cals anyway, so it draws energy from your reserves, which are you muscles and fats. Thus losing weight.
The genetics meme needs to stop.
>>27876050
This is also wrong, if he's big and muscular then he would need to eat more calories to maintain the muscle
What's mos likely is he's just 160lb at 6 2 and OP because he's a hamplanet thinks that he's adonis
>>27874491
>lifting
You gained muscle, my man. Nothing wrong with that. Muscle weighs more than fat after all.
Keep it up.
>>27874391
There's only 2 possibilities here;
1) You're lying
2) The laws of thermodynamics have broken down
>>27874391
Try dnp m8. It will save you. There's usually a thread about it on /fit/. When I did it I lost 10 lbs a week without any cardio
Skelly here. Help me out please.
>tfw check scale 50kg(110 lbs) went 2kg down from yesterday
My height is 177cm 5"10'
This is what I ate yesterday
Breakfast:
Nothing
Lunch:
Vegetable soup
3 pancakes with whipped cream and jam
Dinner:
3 buns with ham, mozzarela butter and tomato.
3 glasses of milk, about 300ml
>>27877808
You could start by eating breakfast you fucking retard
>>27874893
>muh genetics
You're actually no better than those landwhales in denial on tumblr if you think it actually isn't that simple.
>>27877808
> 177cm / 50kg
Jesus christ, I'm 177cm (Male) and my most recent body composition scan says I have 60kg of LBM, so if I had 0kg of body fat, I would weigh 10kg more than you.
> Went 2kg down
Rapid changes are due to stored water weight
> That food
Probably 1,500 calories all up, reduce carbohydrates, increase meal frequency, try and eat > 2000 calories every day, since you likely have a BMR around 1,500. Drinking juice, more milk, protein powder [WPC for mass/fat, WPI for muscle] can all help.
Fatties like you self delude and misreport their calorie intake. Eat less fatty. It really is that simple
>>27879549
This
Former fatty here- let me give you my experience.
I used to pretend that calories were less than they were so I could deluded myself into eating more. Here are some examples of my intentional self delusion
I used to go to the supermarket and switch the mixing spoons and the tablespoons. Then I would tell myself that a tablespoon is a wooden spoon so I could have a 'tablespoon' of peanut butter that is actually a large wooden spoon.
I used to tell myself that oil doesn't count and would have 4 or 5 tablespoons with everything
I used to bake cheese onto the bottom of my pizza crust because 'the stuffed crust calories don't count if it is on the bottom and not int he crust'
I used to remove 100 calories from my count for pieces of fruit because I read it was 'negative' calories (obvious bullshit)
I used to believe that my 'maintenance' was 3500 calories because 'I need an extra 1400 calories to maintain my happiness'
Calories in, calories out is the truth.
You are a falsehood.
>>27874391
>Tfw eat 3000 calories a day.
>Tfw alternate between cycling and lifting
>Tfw skeleton
180cm 60kg
>>27880155
good post.
Fat fucks usually forgot to add the calories they take via their """"diet cola"""" and other snacks.
>>27880196
i-i supposed to calculate my cheat meals everyday? its only one large pizza and a diet coke that's 600ml.
fuck off normie.
>>27874391
I just stopped eating for 2 weeks. I just ate around 400 kcal per day.
I lost all my appetite since the girl who was apparently crazy in love with me just started ignoring me all of a sudden.
Nicotine gum is GOAT for weight loss
>>27874538
It takes about 2-3 days of eating nothing before you even get close to starvation mode. Your body has to burn through a lot before it will reach that point.
Usually fasting for a whole day or even two days is fine as long as you consume tons of water to flush things out.
This "starvation mode" after not eating for 1 day thing is just BS. Humans would have all starved to death back then if this were even remotely true.
What you need to do is ease into fasting once or twice a week and then your body will get used to living on less food. Which will also cause your stomach to shrink and cause you to feel full faster. Healthy fasting + good diet + light weight lifting is key. No need for hard cardio or running, just stretch your legs and walk a few times each day.
>>27874391
THE UNIT YOU WANT TO BE USING IS KILOCALORIES YOU MONGOLOID.
1200 calories is fucking nothing.
>>27874436
A calorie deficit does more.
It's the same principle, but not eating is easier than lifting.
>>27874501
Gaining weight and staying at a healthy weight is way worse than any of that.
>>27874746
You do realize that one kilogram is well within the measuring error of personal scales and natural fluctuation, right?
>>27874893
It is, if you look at the body as closed thermodynamic system.
However, the amounts expended vary per person, but are still roughly the same between all people.
>>27874391
Because you're not actually eating 1200 calories a day.
>fast for a week
>loose weight
it really is that simple
>>27874391
Dont look at your weight, just focus on running faster and/or farther. You're goal is to be in shape, healthier, more active. Its not to lose weight because that will happen as you get in better shape.
>>27874391
Drink coffee and green tea. Also your 1kg is probably water weight
>>27874391
>I don't know how my body werks :cccc
Here's some information
When you eat, no matter how many calories, all the carbs are going to get converted to fat.
You following me?
Okay.
To counteract them from being converted to fat, you have to excercise, like weightlifting, so your body would not only burn fat, but also prioritize using the carbohydrates in the assisting of rebuilding muscle tissue
Running is just cardio, it barely trains your muscles, but burns fat, which your body will actively try to replace, because there's nowhere else your carbs will go.
Hit the gym and work hard.
>>27874391
>Why the fuck, what's even the fucking point, IM SO MAD FUCK THIS BODY ILL BE FAT ALL MY LIFE FUCK
Keep working out I knew someone who was an absolute fat ass that could outrun the entire school. Besides that being strong feels good. So what if you don't lose weight. Also run every single day you're supposed to skipping days doesn't help and trust me your legs can handle it. Also if you workout (like lifting) you need a 24 hour cooldown otherwise your muscles go through to much stress. But remember op you want your body to be tearing muscles, so that when they heal they'll be stronger than ever. But don't over do it. Pacing is key when lifting.
Fellow /fatbody/ here. That is a load of horseshit. You would be burning over half the calories out of that 1200 per day just doing the running. Not to mention that your body's cellular reparation and synthesis processes would easily use all of that while you sleep. The rest of your day of just walking or doing whatever would easily take whatever wasn't burned by the running.
Think I don't know or that I'm a normie or whatever? I dropped from roughly 330 lbs to 305.2 as of this morning and I started trying to lose weight on March 4th. I don't do ANY exercise, I don't work out, I just eat a little differently and eat less.
>>27874391
You're eating more than 1200 calories.
How can I shrink my stomach so I don't feel hungry after a fuckhuge meal? How long do I have to starve myself until my body responds with what I want?
>>27874450
Are you saying you have hyperthyroidism or OP does?
I'm pretty sure hyperthyroidism contributes to weight loss.
>>27874590
Subtract 100 calories from that. Treadmill does way less than that and is easier than running outside.
>>27874669
Losing 20 kg in 4 months is an awesome progress.
Good job man, keep up the good work.
Keep in mind what you already accomplished.
One kilogram up can be either one kilogram of water, feces, piss.
