Which branch of the armed services is the most robot-friendly? The least?
Most - Air Force
Least - Marines
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any robots in the airforce that can say what's it like? anything you should know before joining or don't even bother?
>military
>puts the coast guard in there
>>27750447
I met fellow robots in the Marines. We bonded over how fucking shit everyday life was surrounded by those idiots.
>>27750564
He said armed services, which the Coast Guard is a part of retard.
I can't vouch for the combat arms parts but on the POG side the Army is pretty robot friendly.
I've been thinking about joining the Navy since I can't find a decent job and can't afford college. Sailing around the world on a giant ship seems awesome.
>>27750681
Indeed It is awesome to sail around the world
air force is the most
navy is middle ground
marines is chad central
army is a wildcard since its so big
Has anybody here actually served and cared to share about their experience? What was bootcamp like? As bad as everyone says?
>>27750554
bumping this.
I've yet to hear bad things about the air force
>>27750554
Once you get past basic and tech school, you'll start your job and just do that with some added military bullshit/pt/commander's calls occasionally. It's a pretty sweet gig and pays a lot for someone right out of high school.
Do not pick Security Forces as your job though. Any other job and your fine.
>>27751238
Also, depending on which AFSC you choose, you can receive a lot of training and certificates that will help you immensely as a civilian. I know A1C's that have been medically discharged, but due to the training they've received, they've got $65k+ jobs lined up before they get out.
The medical field is always really good, and anything dealing with computer technology.
>>27751293
thanks for the info. anything you regret or wish you changed? is serving for more than the minimum years a meme
>>27751195
Basic Training is only challenging because the average person is so week. There are adult men, right now, who cry when getting yelled at.
What
The
Fuck
It was easy for me because I could focus on the tasks at hand and ignore the distractions (yelling, physical exertion). Learn rank? Got it. Learn general orders? Got it. Learn how to march? Got it. etc, etc. The only people who had trouble were people who couldn't put their minds in the here and now and learn what they had to learn.
>>27751484
*so weak
Feel free to ask any questions you might have specifically.
>>27751516
what demands should I have for the recruiter?
>>27751384
It is a meme. The Air Force has four and six year contracts, which the catch being you'll put promote to E-3 upon graduation of tech school (or like 14 weeks into tech school if yours is particularly long), instead of having to go to E-2 and then E-3 after a while with a four year contract.
BUT, those two extra years do make a difference. You have to wait until almost your fifth year to crosstrain to a different job if you want, and you'll catch up to the rest of the six year enlistee's eventually anyways. So if you don't like the military, your contract is relatively short. Most people, including me, regret getting duped into the six year contract.
I regret choosing Security Forces as my job (don't go in open general), not pursuing enough education, and buying a card I couldn't really afford as an A1C. Nonetheless, I learned from it all. I'm actually done with my contract in July this year.
>>27751574
Buying a CAR, not card.
Don't get married right away like a lot of people do. Military marriages are infamous for starting and ending abruptly. The dorms can suck, but it's easy living.
Really, just do your job to the best of your ability, show up to everything 15 minutes early, do what your told and you'll be fine. It's hard to get kicked out if your not a lazy slob.
>>27751542
Here's what you need to bring to the table
>physically fit (begin starting strength or stronglifts and couch to 5k if you are currently sedentary)
>rock the ASVAB (a multiple choice test you'll take at MEPS)
>no criminal history
>no physical health problems (including color blindness)
>no mental health issues
If you can bring all these things to the table the sky is the fucking limit and you'll be able to have your free reign of picking an MOS. If you can't pass multiple choice tests your options are going to be limited, if you are colorblind your options are going to be limited, etc.
Have an MOS in mind before you go to see the recruiter and then interview the recruiter to find out if that MOS is something you still want or; knowing all the details, it's something you'd prefer to avoid.
Air Force e5 here. 2 years ago I would've told you to join. But it's not worth it imo now. If you absolutely feel like you must, do 4 years, get benefits, and get the fuck out. I got overseas orders that extended my enlistment for 3 years, and it just isn't worth it. You'll be more focused on how much dick you can suck to make yourself look good rather than just doing your job. You'll learn more about not raping women and not killing yourself than you will your actual job. I'm an NCO and treated like a damn baby. Maybe being overseas with a shitty unit changed my perspective, but I did the same thing in the states years ago and it's just complete shit now.
>>27751659
Possibly a dumb question but would someone who normally wears contacts be forced to wear glasses all the time?
>>27751484
When you were at camp did you see any one who just quit?
>>27751809
Not a dumb question and partially yes. During training and in the field you will have to wear glasses and this is good because you are at extreme risk of fucking your eyes up and will often find yourself in conditions where removing contacts from your eyes would be extremely unsanitary. Outside of these times (daily barracks life) you are generally free to wear contacts.
>>27751809
I wear contacts. I brought glasses with me on deployment and just kept wearing my contacts. Is it bad for your eyes? Yes. Will anyone raise a shitstorm over it? Probably not.
>>27751835
Yes, especially at the start. When you arrive at basic you spend 3-10 days in reception. During this time you do in-processing paperwork and are lightly yelled at and lightly smoked by the drill sergeants. This is the first gut check for everyone and a good handful of people realize that this is something they aren't seriously interested in pursuing. Then once basic starts and things ramp up a smaller group of quitters emerge. These quitters include the mentally unstable i.e. people who will get in fights with other recruits or commit self harm. Occasionally someone receives a dear john letter and depending on that person's mental fortitude they may or may not have a total breakdown. Depending on how the cadre feels about this person they can be out-processed in a week or held in limbo for 2 years (the longest I ever saw a person stuck in basic). My advice to everyone is don't ship to basic unless you're absolutely sure and once you're there just keep your head down and focus on getting through it because it's very risky trying to quit once you're there.
>>27751835
We had 2 quit in mine. One claimed depression and suicidal thoughts. The other just didn't want to be there anymore. It really is not that bad though. You get shit on, do lots of pt, but none of it is so rigorous that you just plain won't be able to do it.
Marines = bros/alphas/chads
Air force = nerdy beta types, hispanics
Navy = less nerdy but not really alpha either
Army = reformed hood niggas, poor whites
Coast guard = Not chad but the next step down from Chad. Good looking "bros"
what's so bad about security forces? that's basically the only mos i qualify for
>>27751195
One thing I'll tell you about joining and boot camp/basic training. It's 2-3 months long out of a 4 or more year enlistment. Do not let your experience during it define your enlistment. Everyone in went through the same shit. Nobody cares about the one time your DS/DI/MTI fucked you up so bad because it happened to everyone else. It is literally there to show that you can follow orders and not be completely out of shape. That is it, anything else you get from it is imagined and trying to make anything more out of it will just make you have a bad time.
>>27751835
As a side not, expect to not take a shit for the first two weeks you're there due to the culture shock and stress.
>>27752126
For me it was boners, I went from daily masturbation to total impotency. Took me 3 weeks to be able to jerk off again.
>>27751988
So they don't supply you with a pair of glasses? I personally hate wearing glasses, I feel like I'd be in constant fear of them falling off during training or getting too dirty.
usaf: boot camp is easy as fuck. they aren't allowed to hit you or make you do a ton of extra exercise like in the movies. its not even very physical, it's mostly watching PowerPoints about military life. if you passed high school gym class you'll be fine
I'm in a much better spot financially than I was before I joined but I don't recommend it to anyone. if you're in debt from college or anything join for 4 years. do NOT do a six year contract, even if they promise higher rank, you'll get rank automatically and the pay difference is not even noticeable.
tldr don't join the USAF unless you're in debt or unless they offer a cool job
>>27752099
I'm not security forces, and the other guy can give you a better idea, but basically, you will have the worst hours, some of the shittiest leadership, if you're in the dorms you'll get the shittiest ones, and you will be treated like shit by the general base populace and anyone who comes onto base.
>>27752099
A lot. It's long, irregular hours doing monotonous, but easy work. The culture is horrible. Leadership is usually really jaded due to doing it long enough. Nobody likes Security Forces, and it's the "military" of the Air Force, in terms of jobs. Meaning getting yelled at a lot for stupid crap, blanket punishments, etc. Even the quality of life is different than the rest of the Air Force. We just get treated differently than other AFSC's and it's obvious.
Most people have a negative opinion of the career field unless they love law enforcement and came in to be a "cop". I would recommend retaking the asvab and trying to get a better score.
>>27752120
>>27752039
>>27752027
Any pro tips on getting through it? Are the Drill Sergeants really that mean or are most people just pussies? Also is it pretty easy to make new friends?
>>27752171
The military will issue you glasses during reception and will expect you to wear them every day during basic/ait/osut. This isn't a bad thing, you are extremely likely to fuck your eyes up if you wear contacts during this period because the training is fairly arduous for someone who hasn't experienced them before, the conditions are often unsanitary.
>I feel like I'd be in constant fear of them falling off during training
You have a strap that fastens them to your head. Additionally, if they break or get lost the military will be able to provide you with replacements which is not the case with contacts.
>getting too dirty.
Dude, all your shit is going to get fucked up.
>>27752171
No they do. I have half a dozen pairs that they've given me. I just don't wear them.
>>27752098
Just remember when people say shit like this. Every branch has their badasses, and every branch has their beta bitch boys. The latter is the vast majority in all of them.
>>27752171
In your '0 week' of basic, you go through a bunch of medical in processing where they do a vision test and give you a pair of glasses with a strap on the back to keep them on your big, ugly shaved head.
>>27752235
what are some respectable careers/Mos's for the air force then?
>>27752266
They're more comical than mean, honestly. They will yell at you and tell you that you fucked up all the time, but it's mostly mind games. Their job is to put you under stress all the time and have you overcome it. They are people too, but their job is to be the "drill sergeant" while their leading you. Some people are pussies and can't take it, but it's the military. They don't want people who will crumble getting yelled at be in a combat position where their life and those around them are in danger.
It is very easy to make friends and you will. Since you're forced work with about 50 other trainees, you will get to know people.
>>27752266
Honestly, there are no big tips or secrets. I would tell you if there were. They will literally hold your hand every step of the way. The only job you have is to suck it up and listen, and only stop when they tell you to when doing pt.
>>27752266
I know it's unlikely but if you have a gf end it now. Makes shit so much easier on you mentally to not have to worry if your woman is or isn't fucking other dudes.
Keep your head down, do what you're told, and focus on the here and now.
Drill Sergeants are a mix. If you're a consistent fuck up they will constantly beat down on you in an attempt to wash you out. Mostly they only fuck with you because they're fucking with everybody simultaneously.
I found it easy to make friends but I'm also a normie.
>>27750447
Air Force.
But if the medicals fields, the porn companies and the air force create a branch, then we may have prostitute robots in 2030.
>>27752357
Anything in the medical field, any sort of administrative job, anything dealing mostly with computers, tech jobs, etc. Think of an AFSC that you could do as a civilian and it's usually a good investment.
I'm going to Meps for the first time soon. Anything I should know?
>>27752429
Do your best at the ASVAB because that's going to either open or close a lot of doors for you
>>27752357
Don't worry about what is respectable. I'm a 2t1(vehicle operator). My job right now is to manage transportation requests for the base and dispatch drivers for shit like aircrew. I don't care if it's respectable, it's ridiculously easy though. Don't worry about what other people think of your job. Do you think finance goes home from their air conditioned office and 9-3 work days with no weekends absolutely miserable?
At the very least, try to take pride in whatever you get into. Because nobody is going to enjoy your job for you, and nobody is going to bust your ass so that you can love it.
One last question, how many of you trained hard before heading to basic training? Is that a normal thing to do? Did it help? Also thanks to everyone answering all the questions.
>>27751675
I want to be an astronaut so Im applying to the chair force after I get my BS in mechanical eng.
What path would I have to take if I wanted to become, say, a pilot for example?
>>27752565
My run got better, but overall I got much weaker. I wouldn't worry a ton about it. You'll run into fatties that are in miserable shape at the beginning and then have no issues at the end.
>>27752473
I got a 67 on my ASVAB already. Any good
>>27752565
It depends on the MOS really. Going after Option 40, 18X, SEAL or some other SOF MOS with a serious selection program? You need to be working extremely hard to physically improve yourself.
Going to be an 88M or some other POG? Don't worry about it. So long as you can pass the reception fitness test you're gold.
Personally, I recommend weightlifting and running whether you're going to join the military or not just because of all the health benefits.
>>27752631
It's mediocre. A lot of options are closed to you now but you're still able to enlist.
>>27752627
Same here. You run a lot in basic, but I regularly lifted weights before coming in, and the amount of push ups I did for my PT test in basic went down by about 15 in total.
I would recommend starting an exercise regiment that focused on lots of running and calisthenics now. It will make dealing with PT easier in the beginning.
You workout six days a week, so you will be in somewhat good shape by the end.
>>27752631
>good
No, not really. You'll qualify for most jobs but the higher Intel stuff though.
>>27750447
navy all the way, lol
>>27752758
If you want to be stuck on a ship for months on end and slowly turn into a homosexual because of lack of interaction with females.
Why is everyone saying not to join the airforce?
>>27752631
"above average" but if you're not in the I or II area (80-90+), you wont get a good MOS
>>27752801
Because most military robots here are retards who only want to do the minimum to survive. Most do it for the prestige and lack of worthwhile shit in their civilian lives
>>27750681
Don't join if that's your reason. Depending on your job, you might not go on a deployment your first four enlistment. And if you joined because you're a failure, you're not going to find happiness in the Navy
>>27752795
oh, hi chaddo
>>27752795
The being without women does suck but traveling around the world is awesome. You can awkwardly try to flirt with women on your shore leave.
>>27752631
>67
99 here. Are you retarded?
>>27752823
Nah, I've busted my ass to look good in the Air Force, promoted above most of my peers, and do my job better than most people in my office. If you want a military experience, join the marines or army. If you want a paycheck and benefits, with the route we're going, it's quickly becoming not worth it with all the extra bullshit.
>>27752802
no way in hell am i scoring 80+. i suck too much at word problems.
Security forces it is. i don't give a fuck if they look down on me. its better than my current shit job.
>>27752954
>it's better than my current shit job
I sincerely doubt that.
>>27752834
its either min wage jobs forever or the military. college isn't an option because i can't afford it.
not sure what you expect me to do.
>>27753050
$8.00 an hour, fueling planes with half broken equipment. i literally hold a rope all day.
0 benefits.
can't even get my own place.
yeah, pretty sure its fucking better.
>>27752752
>>27752802
I know this may not occur but if I have the chance, should I retake it? That was the same score I got for the practice and really was aiming for higher.
>>27752834
Honestly I can't afford college with having to take out big loans and serving in the military would help me feel like I have some purpose in the world and make my parents proud. It seems better than doing general labor and other shit jobs.
>>27752914
Pretty much.
Not much I can do in the end.
>>27753143
You will not be able to retake the asvab. I've seen people who failed get a second chance but never anyone who passed.
>>27753141
>$8.00 an hour
Please tell me your exaggerating. I know airports start people off with about $13 doing that.
Active duty a shit
Air national guardsman here, I get my college paid for, job training, and supplementary income while only showing up for two days a month. I honestly don't understand people losing 6 years of their life to active duty.
>>27753254
Been thinking about going guard to finish my enlistment. Were you prior active?
>>27753281
No, enlisted sophomore year of college after I couldn't afford school anymore. My only regret is that I didn't do it right out of high school.
>>27753221
Im not joking.!
Its $8.00, with 0.15 cent raises yearly.
It has the highest turnover out of any other job at the airport.
I guess you don't realize how bad other people have it in order to say ALL open general jobs in the air force are bad.
>>27753321
That's pretty ridiculous, yeah I'd definitely get out of that if I were you
To any robros considering the military, join Air Force. Safest/easiest basic training out of all the branches, drill instructors can't even touch you without permission or make you do pushups for more than five minutes (as in, none of those Army stories where they were forced to do pushups for an hour straight.)
Also, you can pass basic training while being the most skelly, straight-outta-Auschwitz motherfucker. Trust me, I'm proof. Sadly got discharged after a year due to PT test failures, missed by three situps.
I'm looking into joining the military as a military policeman so I can get a job as a cop once I'm out.
I know the army has a specific MOS for military police but what about other branches like the air force and such? Is my plan even good to begin with?
>>27753463
USAF has security forces if you want to be a policeman.
The real question is why do you want to be a policeman? There are hundreds of AFSC to choose from, provided you study for your ASVAB.
>>27753463
I only know Minnesota has provisions where being military police qualify you to become a cop but for the VAST majority of other departments all it does is give you the same preferential treatment any other veteran gets.
Guy who got accepted by 2 departments here. Feel free to ask away.
>>27753590
Sorry, the military reciprocity changed: https://dps.mn.gov/entity/post/exams/Pages/military-reciprocity-exam.aspx
>>27753572
I want to be a cop when I go back to the civilian world because mainly I'm an unmotivated idiot and it's the only thing that interests me at all.
Granted I haven't looked that deep into the military jobs either.
Like you said earlier, would joining one of the medical field AFSCs land me some work in the medical field like paramedic or nurse?
I'm not so sure about all the mechanical and computer stuff because, like I said, I'm very unmotivated and such, I'd feel like I'd get bored or get frustrated and quit.
>>27753463
>>27753688
You don;t need to join the military to become a cop. Most police departments only require a high school diploma or a few college credits IF that. Just apply and take their test, as long as you can read/write basic english and solve basic logic problems then you'll be fine.
>>27753572
I didn't see anything relating to computer networking.
I'm leaving for rtc great lakes the 27th and cannot wait! Does anyone have any knowledge about how comfy the fts community is?
>>27753404
how many sit ups do you have to do, like 50 in 1 minute?
how do you even fail that m8
>>27753688
>mainly I'm an unmotivated idiot
>I'm very unmotivated and such, I'd feel like I'd get bored or get frustrated and quit.
Dude, do NOT become a cop, you're going to hate it.
>>27753772
>You don;t need to join the military to become a cop.
This is true
>Most police departments only require a high school diploma or a few college credits IF that
This while technically true, is misleading. There are a few departments (New Orleans PD springs to mind) where a HS diploma/GED is enough to get in but for any department that's seriously worth a damn you'll be seriously competing with other applicants who have Bachelor's degrees, military experience with deployments, or both.
The only GED people I've seen hired were minorities that also brought extremely in demand language skills to the table. And I mean they were fluent speakers, not Rosetta Stoners.
>>27753869
Cyber System Ops. 3D0X2
>>27753373
You probably hate security forces because you've been there so long.(or never had an actual shit job). i hear people on /g/ complain about programming jobs, and they make 50k+ a year. You need specific details as to why its shit.
>>27753946
>how do you even fail that m8
Severe lifelong depression resulting in being significantly underweight due to complete lack of motivation and not lifting weights at age sixteen like every well-adjusted normie male with even a hint of common sense and/or an actual father figure in their life to help guide them.
So, basically, I failed the PT test because I was a robot.
>>27753463
Being a MP sucks dick they work horrible hours that mean they barely get any personal time and it's not rare for them to work weekends
>>27754317
This is also a fear of mine.
How difficult exactly are the PT tests for the army?
Bear in mine, a depressed robot who has never excerised in his life, let alone lift weights, is asking this.
How many push-ups and shit do I have to do? I can't even do one...
But isn't the entire point of basic training to buff you up so that you aren't a skinnyfat weakling like me?
>>27754403
use google m80
http://www.military.com/military-fitness/army-fitness-requirements/army-basic-training-pft
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_Physical_Fitness_Test
http://army.com/info/apft/basics
http://apftcalculator.com/
>>27754403
Not him but they aren't hard, I was a skinnyfat 130lbs skelly who barely made the weight requirement NEET that played Nost (RIP) for 18 hours a day when I joined and I passed easily.
Basic training makes you work out so much and you're forced to only eat the mega bland healthy food that you're going to buff up, the only two guys who failed the PT test when I went to basic were fat as fuck and failed the run. Just get started working out now. To pass basic you need 35 pushups in 2 minutes, 48 (i think) situps in 2 minutes, and run a 16:36 two mile
>>27754403
For the Army it's 42 push ups in 2 mins, 53 sit ups in 2 mins, and 2 mile run in 15:54
>But isn't the entire point of basic training to buff you up so that you aren't a skinnyfat weakling like me?
Literally no. You need to do 13 push ups in 1 min, 17 sit ups in 1 min, and a 1 mile run in 8:30 just to begin basic. They will hold you in reception indefinitely until you meet this standard.
Really though, if you can't exercise on your own, can't go to a gym on your own the military isn't going to change that.
>>27754403
Yeah.. you're not gonna make it.
50 push ups in 1 minute (correct form)
run 2 miles in 13 minutes
>>27754532
>They will hold you in reception indefinitely until you meet this standard.
No they wont, I ran a 1 mile in 12 minutes when I first joined the Army but the recruiter just lied on the paper like they do with everyone so they could get higher numbers.
I've met a surprising number of robots being in the Marines. Myself and most of them joined in an effort to escape our previous robot lifestyle, and it works to an extent. Definitely better with not being a sperg in public, and I've made the first actual friends I've ever had in my life.
That said, I don't know much about the other branches besides navy, and they seem mostly nerdy, but relatively socially competent.
>>27754565
>Recruiter
The 1:1:1 is standard at all basic training posts now with those who fail instantly being moved into fat platoons. Your recruiter could say you run 1 mile in 4 mins flat but if you're not passing at Jackson, Sill, Benning or wherever the fuck you go right in with the fatties until you do.
>>27753215
>>27753143
you gotta wait like a month you can retake it
depends on your recruiter too
>>27754603
>The 1:1:1 is standard at all basic training posts now
Bullshit unless this is an extremely new thing. I was just at Basic reception exactly a year ago and we didn't do a 1:1:1. All that we did was stay up for six million hours to get our uniforms and other inprocessing done. We did a diagnostic 1:1:1 like a week into Basic but it's not like they could do shit if you fail it.
>>27754498
What do you do now? are you happy?
>>27754403
according to wikipedia you have 2 minutes to do a minimum of 42 pushups. 2 minutes to do a minimum of 53 situps and you have to complete a 2 mile run in at least 15:54
>>27754713
>>27754547
>>27754532
Oh, yikes....fuck me man...
Might as well stay a fucking neet.
Regardless, I doubt someone with intense social phobia and anxiety would even survive the first week of basic training anyway...
There really is no silver lining for people like me...isn't there?
>>27754689
42A Human Resources, it's not a bad gig since I just do regular office work inside and fix people's records.
A lot of people in the Army have problems of picking an MOS where it's a special snowflake job where they can only perform it at very little places so they're never actually able to do their job so they get labeled as surplus where you get put on every detail and forced to do another job
>>27754654
I don't know nor do I care what your basic was doing a year ago.
I'm telling all potential recruits what the current regs are and the current regs are that at reception you will be administered a fitness test requiring 13 push ups, 17 sit ups, and 1 mile time of 8:30. Failing that puts you in a Fitness Training Unit (fat platoon) indefinitely until you pass.
Do not enlist in the Army unless you can pass the 1:1:1.
is there any way to unfuck myself as far as getting screamed at is
i kind of tear up in anxious situations
>>27754805
By the time you're done with boot camp you'll probably be able to do that see:
>You need to do 13 push ups in 1 min, 17 sit ups in 1 min, and a 1 mile run in 8:30 just to begin basic
>>27754532
>>27754820
>and the current regs are that at reception you will be administered a fitness test requiring 13 push ups, 17 sit ups, and 1 mile time of 8:30
Apparently no one follows that reg because the reception group I was in didn't do that and the other two reception groups after mine didn't either. I've never heard anyone who I work with that went at different times talk about having to take a 1:1:1 at reception either they just mention that they had to do one at their recruiting office before shipping.
>>27754880
>Apparently no one follows that reg because the reception group I was in didn't do that and the other two reception groups after mine didn't either
Dude, I literally do not care what bullshit was going on at your basic. I'm telling you what's going on now. Not a year ago, not 6 months ago, not 3 months ago. Now.
>>27754938
Did you take a 1:1:1 at reception? Have you ever asked the other people who you work with have they taken one?
Because I really doubt that by some miracle my reception group and the other ones for the entire month of March to April 2015 were the only people in history to not do a 1:1:1.
>>27754999
>Did you take a 1:1:1 at reception?
Nope but that doesn't matter because what was normal in May 2009 isn't what's happening now.
>Have you ever asked the other people who you work with have they taken one?
It doesn't matter if they have or haven't. I'm telling you what people who enter reception now will need to achieve.
>>27755077
>Nope but that doesn't matter because what was normal in May 2009 isn't what's happening now.
What you said was happening right now isn't apparently, it just sounds like something the Army wants to happen but obviously doesn't like most things. It's a good idea to put yourself in the physical condition to pass the 1:1:1 before you get to reception but it's no sweat if you don't because you get worked out like a slave in Basic.
i hope the army takes kindly to robots
>>27755167
>What you said was happening right now isn't apparently
You are wrong. Not just a little wrong. Completely wrong. I'm sure you feel like you have a lot of experience given the fact you've been in the Army all of a year but kindly stop spreading misinformation on what the current standards are simply because you and your friends went through before they were implemented.
>>27755241
From what I've learned the Air Force is the best branch for robots.
>>27755311
When were they implemented that's what I'm asking, this has to be like a couple of months old thing because even the people who entered in a few months after me haven't mentioned it.
>>27755331
fuck i better back out of joining, nvm about what i said before, if what >>27754532 says its true then i better not join
>>27755344
>When were they implemented that's what I'm asking
No idea and it doesn't matter, this is what the current standards being enforced are now.
>>27755415
I'm not talking about the Air Force nor do I know what their standards are, only the Army.
>>27755511
i'm too weak to go in the army, feels bad man
>>27755527
I know this feel as well
I'm such a fucking pathetic failure that I can't even resort to the army to improve my life...
I really should just off myself now.
>>27755479
>enforced
But they aren't. If reception didn't even bother to put my allergies on my record even after telling them and giving me pants that were for people who are 5'5" when I'm 5'10" then they don't care enough to do a 1:1:1. You can put shit in a reg all day but if no one gets on your ass to follow it then there's no point. I looked it up and that reg has been around since 2011 but how many people do you know who joined after 2011 took one?
>>27755556
i think i should just become a truck driver t'bh
>>27755608
>But they aren't
Ahh yes, I'll definitely take some fag anon's word over someone on the trail right now.
>>27755648
Is he at Jackson? Because that's where I was at where it didn't happen and where other people didn't take a 1:1:1
>>27755679
No, Benning. Does he have to be a Jackson fag for you to believe that's the current reg or because you and your limited experience never had to pass a 1:1:1 or go to fat platoon that means it isn't the current TRADOC standard?
>>27755616
You know, I've constantly been hearing how decent a job being a trucker is, especially for robots.
They make decent cash, like average being 49-45k yearly right?
I wonder what the qualifications are...how steady the job market for it is and all...
>>27755679
I was E/3-34 at Jackson and we had to pass the 1:1:1 in 2010, failures went to FTU.
>>27755730
He doesn't have to be but the entire argument started when you said that it doesn't matter where you're at it gets enforced when obviously it didn't at Jackson for everyone who went there with me and people who were before and after me.
>>27755798
>you said that it doesn't matter where you're at it gets enforced
Because it doesn't matter where you're at it is getting enforced right now.
>obviously it didn't at Jackson for everyone who went there with me and people who were before and after me.
Unless you have a friend on the trail today or who just went through reception today you can fuck off with your out of date knowledge.
>>27755753
i want to become a local truck driver but I'm only 19. am i in the right age?
>>27753083
Check out the ROTC program.
>>27755875
I say it's fine.
>>27751238
why not security forces?
>>27750447
Hey dude I started Army Basic January 2nd and finish AIT next week. If anyone has any questions feel free to ask
If anyone decides to go Air Force then stay the hell away from aircraft maintenance. Lots of bullshit and high tempo ops for the fighter squadrons. Try to get a desk job with a TS clearance.
>>27757469
my recruiter said only spec ops and security forces are available. what do?
>>27757406
Well, how is it?
>>27757589
Any particular part you want to know about? MEPS, ASVAB, reception, basic, AIT?
In general it sucks shit. But I'm not in the regular army yet. Probably gets a lot better then.
>>27752631
The aggregate score is not important shoot for >100 on the general technical portion. This will give you the greatest opportunity if you decide to make it a career.
>>27755776
I was in basic (Jackson), in January. You take your 1-1-1 on the second day of basic training not during reception. You need to get 13 pushups, 17 situps and I think a 9:30 1 mile. If you don't you go to FTU(fat/injury camp) nobody failed though.
What is life in the barracks like? I know in basic you have to shit together, shower together, etc. But once you finish all of the initial stuff and go to your station or whatever it's called, what are living conditions like? Do I have to share a room with anyone or do I get my own private living quarters where I can squirrel away in?
Just join Army infantry 11b
Do 18x Llllll
You make less than minimum wage, and if you have anxiety it will certainly compound all problems that come of that. I tried it, so I guess you could say I'm biased, but then again the board is for people like me if you believe that.
I joined the Navy, made it to week 5 out of 7 weeks (we were a push division). They were going to let me graduate although I failed every inspection because a combination of aspergers plus anxiety makes folding shit to specific specifications impossible for me. I passed the PFA and tests easily though, those are what count.
But I decided that I wasn't going to enjoy being in the Navy for 6 years, so I went to REU and got out. My RDC's almost prevented me from leaving though, saying I wouldn't be able to get out of a government contract and stuff like that, but they had lied to me before so I ignored them.
Also, my RDCs did not give a fuck about the new rules that some hardcore guys hate like the card systems and shit. I wish they did, because I would have preferred a more intellectual environment, I was a Nuke after all and thats the way the world is going in. No need for hardasses when we wont even see combat.
But yea they stood on my back when I was doing pushups and shit, and I fainted a few times.
>>27758237
E5 makes 2k a month on top of having $1k BAH
Sounds to me like you were a pussy.
>>27750447
I don't know about enlistment, but career Army officers are typically Chads. Sooner or later, no matter what your grade or MOS, you'll run into one and feel physically violated by the disparity in machismo between you two.
>>27758237
>fainted
hahaha
>>27758353
Benching 250 is easier than doing a pushups with somebody on your back.
>>27757996
In basic you will be in a room with about 55-59 other guys. You'll have a 7x4 locker and share a bunk bed. The showers are no longer open showers, you get a single shower with a curtain. And you get stalls to shit in.
Then you go to AIT. It's basically like a college dorm (share with 1-2 other people), the newer ones are really nice, the older ones are still way better than what you're accustomed to in basic training.
Some of the rooms have wifi, you may or may not be allowed to keep your phone/electronics. Just depends on your MOS and platoon sergeants. I have a week of 13B AIT left. My company got to keep their phones, the other 3 had them taken away. Not because we were better, are Captain/First Sargent just didn't take them.
The length of your AIT also plays into what it's like. Longer ones normally start off like basic and gradually you phase up until eventually you can wear civies when off duty. Those are normally 15+ weeks long though.
Once you get to your duty station you ***should*** get a private room. It depends on which fort you get, but all are upgrading to single soldier rooms if they haven't already. They're like little apartment rooms, some have a kitchenette, others have a common area you share with like 2-4 other people. Overall duty station living quarters are normally pretty nice.
It's way fucking better in the AF though man. Go AF.
>>27758411
How do you know it's better in the AF if you're in the army? just word of mouth?
>>27758303
It takes a minimum of 5 years to become an E5, if you like the lifestyle its a good plan if you have nothing better.
A pussy? I guess, I had no business joining the military in the first place.
>>27758529
Military benefits make it way better than having a min wage job though. its also more respectable and at least you have a chance to move up
>>27758502
there were 3 prior service (Air Force) that were in basic with me. They said that the AF is way more particular about some things like folding your bed, uniform, tidiness etc. But that the living quarters are far, far better. AF basic is also not very physical at all. Mostly just classes. 8 hour power point days and stuff like that.
I asked all 3 why they left, they said they wanted more action because most AF MOS's are boring af.
>mfw all 3 had non combat MOS's
>>27758588
Yea, thats true. I mean I got all my teeth fixed up in basic. I was only 18 then, I can rejoin if I get a waiver and then mentally prepare myself knowing what it will be like.
Probably not though, I like my freedom better
>>27758529
You can get to e5 in 2 years man what are you talking about
>>27758638
No you can get to E4 in a minimum of 2 years, which I would've since I was gonna be a Nuke.
From E4 to E5 the minimum promotion time is 3 years, and even then you might wait longer.
>>27758681
Uhm no. Lots of combat MOS's you can get it in 2. There's waivers for TIS
>>27752943
Extra bullshit like what?
>>27754403
Don't worry about passing the PT tests, as long as you push yourself during PRT, you'll do fine.
Also it is a good idea to start running and doing some push-ups/sit-ups about a month before you ship.
Reception is a big joke, and you literally do nothing except stand in line and be miserable.
You get over being in basic after week 3, and the drills technically aren't allowed to make you do more than 5 reps of "corrective training"
I finished my 14 weeks of OSUT in January, active army. It's not that bad.
>>27750447
the Navy, they are to PC nowadays any neet will cut it. only if you suck at swimming you might get yelled at a bit
