When did you realize you aren't attractive?
When I was 8
I thought puberty might help, nope
When the only woman who wanted to fuck me was your mom.
Middle school. I realized that I would never have a chad jawline. During high school I played the whole cute baby face roll and scored 3 girlfriends. But I haven't gotten laid ever since. I'm trying to grow a beard go cover my boyish face but it's still patchy. But it's getting thicker. Still can't grow a mustache though.
>>27747223
When I googled handsome men and realized our society only considered white men to be handsome.
>>27747223
When a 4/10 slut rejected me telling me im ugly as fuck.
>>27747223
i remember how as a little kid my mother said girls will chase me
when i was like 13-14 in school some kids used to do this stupid shit where they write the first letter of their names and = love after that or some stupid shit like that
i was really bored one day so i wrote my letter and the letter of another girl
i don't know or remember how she knew, but i remember her saying she doesn't like me because i am ugly
after that i could no longer keep up the illusion and only 2 very ugly girls were ever attracted me so yeah if i had the guts for it i would end myself nothing will ever make me feel okay now when i am 26 and i remember how people around me had nice lives, got attractive girlfriends while i was treated like a leper and pushed out of all the groups i tried to fit in
When I got terrible acne at age 14. It has since cleared but I'm ugly regardless
>>27747223
Middle school. Kids called me ugly for no reason. Looking back they were probably just fucking with me but of course I took it to heart.
Only now. I am 21 years old and realized , that I am really ugly
>178cm
> a bit skinny fat
>very narrow shoulders
> big head
>small arms and tiny wrists
> very bad teeth with a lot of fillings
>dandruff in my hair
>awful voice
>living in Slav shithhole
>20$/week
>lost shitty job
>no friends
>only have 1 relationship with 5-6/10 girl (for me all girls 10/10 btw) , she broke up with me 6 month later because "I am boring and don't understand her".
So who is worse ?
i was in denial well into high school. went to a couple parties in college and saw every guy was a head taller than me and actually had facial hair. tried socializing but was actually invisible compared to other guys. realized i was a low test beta incarnate, never tried to party or socialize again. i'm 5'6", baby faced, can't grow facial hair, and starting to go bald. oh well, being happy is probably not that great :^)
Probably some time around senior highschool.
In highschool, I always go back in time wondering the mistery why no one want to talk to me during the first week of junior highschool (always happen again whenever we changed class and met new classmates) while everyone would lovely join aconversation with but me. Then i realize something, I am taller than anyone and my face is a bit scary, I look like I am angry all time. Mixed with my introverted nature (i always quite in class unless someone randomly start a conversation with me).
>>27747403
Iktf I look like a rapist and it has fucked my shit up
>>27747360
You are literally me except im 10 cm taller and i dont have a job.
>Losing hair
>Very bad facial hair, no chest hair
>21 years old
I honestly dont see the point. This is a massive fuck you my body has given to me.
>>27747274
Um could we get a story of that please
>>27747444
Where are you from ? Really Slavic country ?
>>27747304
You're stupid asf. 80/20 will always be in effect, no matter ethnicity stupid ethnicel.
If you look better than 80% of males (ie you posses testesterone rich facial ratios, a nice facial structure and a manly eye area) you're getting laid by any woman, even women with boyfriends better looking than 90% of men, because women are whores and after a certain threshold it begins not to matter who is more attractive.
>>27747223
I'm still clinging to the desperate fantasy that I could pass for a 6.5/10 if I lost some weight phamily B^)
When I opened my eyes and saw my parents for the first time.
>>27747616
This man is not good looking at all.
>>27747274
You're pretty unattractive then
>>27747223
When I gained consciousness.
>>27747444
>>27747360
>10cm taller
>no job
hmm you two are about even
>>27747223
when mom told me i'm getting fat and balding.
>>27747654
>implying implications
Women find him attractive and that's all that counts. Besides, you're not experienced enough in lookism to take into account sexual dimorphic features like FWHR or upper eyelid exposure boyo.
>>27747616
Speaking in terms of white women, the 80/20 rule doesn't apply to non whites unless they're loaded betas or that specific woman's fetish.
The female grabs onto men who look more attractive than the last one and they do seek out individuals who are above their level, that is true. What is not true is a female who has the choice between 9/10 blue-eyed blonde hair Chad versus a 10/10 Tyrone. The woman will always go for the 9/10 because deep down they want their offspring to also experience life like they did.
We've all seen girls giggle about how couple A will have beautiful babies and we all know why that's the case. Its because they're blonde and have an eye colour that isn't brown.
>>27747778
this guy looks like a fucking alien i am pretty sure most women won't like him
>>27747778
This fucker isn't attractive either, he's very weird looking too. He does have a nice jawline however, he's still better looking than me but I can't see this guy being someone extremely attractive.
>>27747778
pencil neck
short chin
fucked up nasal bridge
typical gook eye area, no brow ridge
worse than the average white man
>>27747832
THIS THIS THIS.
They don't like to admit it but its right in our faces everyday.
There was a couple at my high school who looked different in terms of looks. Guy had 5/10 looks, girl was a 9/10. It was pretty obvious she was way better looking. They seemed to like each other a lot, both shared so many hobbies and interests.
''He's way below your league, girl''
''Your wasting yourself on him''
Giggling begins and next week the girl leaves him because he is too clingy. The guy told me that he noticed her push him away a lot of the time and she was acting very cold.
Now she's 24, married to Chad. He has no interests that match hers. Its just fucking and ''chemistry''. Guess what features he has?
>>27747778
how the fuck does he see properly?
his pupils are almost entirely hidden by his eyelids
>>27747924
>Guess what features he has?
not being a 5/10 so other girls won't laugh at her for being a guy below her?
>>27747605
Romania. Not slav but slav-tier
When I was about 12 and I realized I looked like my grandmother
>>27747832
We call that an eye halo, which I don't doubt because i've seen fugly facially challenged guys like Nash Grier succeed just due to this. But you're underestimating just how important facial features are to women and especially women below 35.
Maybe when they get older they'll want some guy of their ethnicity, but it hardly matters during their cock carousel days.
>>27747846
>>27747859
Both of these guys are male models fucking prime pussy you could only dream of. But yeah, their features are slightly exaggerated. They're models, that's how they're supposed to look.
>tinder
>only matches are overweight single moms and landwhales
1 year ago
>>27747906
Hunter eyes are sexy m8. And gook eyes kind of look like hunter eyes sometimes.
Look at Sean O'Pry.
>>27747962
alright lets put that conversation behind us, I actually want you to talk to me about upper eye lid exposure. I just noticed this feature honestly.
>>27747947
Damn ok , I don't know much about your country except gypos and want Moldova back. I am from country bigger than Pluto and infrastructure is like Pluto so :^). How is life in Romania? Just go full wageslavery in Western Europe and that's all.
>>27748013
you fool
hunter eyes=/=chink eyes
I always sorta knew. It never hit me, I could just describe what I felt better as time went on. I don't know why though. I look like people who aren't 1/10, but they are not me, y'know? That and I was the one that would be the 'lol, go do some shit to pleb to fuck with him" kid.
When I got plastic surgery for it. Still look weird.
>>27748021
Too much is a death sentence, because women notice your eye area and midface first (contrary to what lower third/jawline tradionalits believe).
If you fix it, you can probably go up a few rating points. But there are other things to take into account like canthal tilt and sclera show.
Basically it's pretty damned important and it kills me whenever I see guys with nice hooded eyes get their hoods removed.
*tradionalist
*scleral show
>>27748132
You didn't get the right procedures m8.
>>27748092
They look very similar though. Some orientel guys can get away with it.
>>27748132
You also probably weren't born with the right facial ratios. If so it's over for you no matter what most likely.
I realized when I was in elementary school when the girls didn't want to chase me when we had to avoid them because of "cooties".
>>27748153
My upper eye lid exposure is practically identical to pic related, is this too much?
>>27748220
not even close.
Sean O'pry - eyebrows very low
chink - eyebrows very high
Sean O'pry - brow sticks out about 2cm in front of eyeballs
chink - brow almost flush with eyeballs
hunter eyes are very much a European feature
contrary to popular opinion, whites do not have large eyes, just more than eastern asians.
if anything, middle-easterners have the largest eyes. You can even see the sclera underneath the iris
>>27748451
Depends on the rest of your features(if the rest of your features are too masculine it could actually help you), but generally yes.
>>27748244
How do you do that with the calculator?
>>27748525
Thanks for having this talk.
>tfw AVM
>will never be DOM
oh well, I'll just go and fuck some more hookers.
>>27748553
With a ruler measure the distance between the pupil, then from the bottom of the philtrum to the pupil and divide them together. I think 1 is ideal. Too much looks very childlike and too much below looks like a horse.
>>27748491
>hunter eyes
>euro
More like Native m8.
Ik very few full Euros with hunter eyes and the zygomatic arches needed to support it and I think O'Pry is like a quarter native too.
>>27748588
Hit the gym and lower your BF% man.
>>27747223
Ever since, but real, cold reality hit me in the head real hard when I was in [middle school].
>>27747223
Go to teenage disco when I was like 12 with Chad friend. The idea at these things was your friend would go up and ask a girl to kiss you supposedly happened everyone but never to me. It kind of took off from there, I got some confidence back after I lost my virginity 3 years ago I have had sex with 3 people. Although I'm back to square one since a girl pretty much told me to my face that I wasn't worthy to have her pointing at a taller attractive guy saying "i'm not choosing you if I can have him ".
>>27747433
Reminds me of a girl who once said she liked guys with a rapist look to them.
>>27748903
lol the faggot is clearly sucking his cheeks in and playing with perfect angle + lighting
I've known for a long time. I can't bother to look myself in the mirror most days
never
8/10 face
7/10 body
5"11
198lbs
girls approach me all the time but im too autistic to hold a conversation.
this is the worst fate imaginable, im constantly teased by things i know i can never have because of my total lack of social skills
I inferred it based on the lack of unsolicited female attention.
