Shill thread pt 2
Last one died, here we go
Previous thread: https://desustorage.org/r9k/thread/27669641/
>>27689843
>tfw shills unironically post using words like "lolz" and "samefaggot"
>tfw shills respond to me with pictures named "Download"
Convenient, great tasting, & affordable. Little Caesars, pizza, pizza
Bumping thread. I feel like you guys would like Socrates
How would one go about defending against shills? If one adopts skepticism that only tells them to doubt but how does one find authenticity? Is it dead now? Leap of faith?
As far as methodology should we simply inform with that forums for gentlemen pastebin? I don't think we could go on some offensive where we would have anons become double agent shills and then leak info or methods but it's an idea for the determined.
One last bump before hoping the thread takes off. Gotta fight that sliding and b8
What are your guy's thoughts?
>>27691422
>My thoughts
I think we all knew that people are trying to datamine, gather info, etc. but I never expected it to go as far as to hire people to post things like this.
Nothing we can really do about it except hide threads that we expect are from shills and don't respond to their posts
>>27691396
i feel the authentic posts will always ring with truth and the ideas can be taken apart and you can feel where they're coming from,
same with shills, they ring with suggestive writing and you can feel where they're coming from.
just keep your eyes open and you'll know a brother when you see one.
everything the shills post is a form of bait, just be bait aware and understand the ideas you're reading to the core
>>27690586
hot and ready
>pizza pizza
>>27691396
you guys...theres not any shills...
pfft nobody wants to influence your thoughts to make it easier to control you
lulz no one uses this site to gather data to understand and target you
ha! your just paranoid
get in here true members of r9k
discuss actual topics and when shills appear
we call them the fuck out and then we can get a clearer picture of their shilly posts and read this if your not up to speed
https://desustorage.org/r9k/thread/27669641/
So what's our plan here? Keep a general going every day or two with this?
http://pastebin.com/irj4Fyd5
Should someone make a doc or list of all noticed signs of shilling and a watch list?
>>27692848
i think keeping a thread up on here would be great idea, keeping it loaded with links, references and examples great idea.
spread truth, like they spread shit on our morning toast
if we can get a thread rolling like the one last night everyday or other day, people will notice
list of shill signs and clues, suggestive writing clues, bot clues all that sounds great
creativity is instrumental in mind games and were dealing with professionals.
idk guys, i'm starting to think all this shilling stuff is just a shill
>>27693022
fuck off shill, read
https://desustorage.org/r9k/thread/27669641/
and read this and this
http://pastebin.com/irj4Fyd5
before making such a retarded statement
>>27693103
>not getting the joke
He was just pointing out how antishilling was like shilling in the sense you try to spread the word
>>27692057
Man the attempts get sadder and sadder. It's like they don't even try anymore.
>>27693568
Oh wait maybe I'm the one that isn't getting the joke. That or the shills are only pretending to be retarded and they just keep digging some weird rabbit hole
>>27693557
shilling is spreading garbage and stupidity
anti shilling is spreading facts and evidence
even if he was joking thats a stupid and mind numbing joke
>>27693625
Alright then anon. Good luck with that.
Is worrying about shills and how to identify them really worth our time ? Wont things sort themselces out if we just carry on as usual, report fags that spam things and call people out on bullshit posts/ arguments ?
>>27693689
No anon that's the biggest bullshit I have ever read. I'm sorry though but seriously.
>>27693707
But why not ? Could you explain blox
shitposting
>>27693673
can we get some more quality posts in here ffs
or at least any lurkers that see this thread please inform yourselves, read this
https://desustorage.org/r9k/thread/27669641/#27681649
last thread had some great posts
this at least will leave you thinking instead of mind numbing trap threads and why live threads
>>27693689
probably not and the shill meme is fun anyway
>>27693634
>being this stupid
you deserve to be shilled 2bh
>>27693905
you shilly shilly boy
>>27693749
Man I am on your side. I thought you were a shill trying to get to me.
>>27693745
Because trying to ignore it will not make it stop. It is taking the fun away for me aswell. I'm pretty sure you shilli willy though.
>>27695231
plus they use vpn's
so reporting them doesn't really help
I didn't know shills posted on /r9k/. it's pretty obvious on boards like /tv/
>>27695875
did you read the last thread?
links posted all through this thread
they're in lots o boards
I think we should all confront /co/ they have it the worst of all. It's so bad you cannot even fathom.
>>27696421
I go there everyday there's no helping them
>>27696506
but....if you go there everyday then ur one of them
and if you agree with this thread then there is hope
>>27689843
How much do shills make? How to become a shill? It sounds pretty comfy desu~. Browsing 4chins and shitposting and getting paid for it.
>>27689843
Hey guys have you all seen this site yet? Facebook.com
It's a great website where you can connect with friends, family and everyone you know! Sign up now! You can also like or comments eachothers pictures or play games.
Sign up now and get your second facebook account for free :D
>>27696852
you are scum, fuck off
did you not read the old thread
tons off people asked that same question
got legit answers from ex-scum
read you fucking scum
>>27691396
did you find that picture in the alunya thread?
>>27696870
:D
facebook you say sounds superduper
bomb post btw
>>27696882
Nah stirner gets posted a lot
>>27696852
you get contacted, you don't find it. plus, you'd be a fucking dick to sign up for that bullshit
>>27696881
Okay, thanks! ^_^
>>27696926
>implying I'm not already a dick :3
I just put it in catalogue and hide threads that I don't like, even a shill post or thread can start of entertainment. I mean what are they trying to accomplish at r9k? Find the potential shooter? Distract spurned men from revolting irl? Sell a fleshlight?
>>27697024
for the love of god, if you really are interested READ!!
the last theads been linked multiple times in here
https://desustorage.org/r9k/thread/27669641/
>>27697112
I did read most of it, but I couldn't tell you
>>27697199
its just like what they do in china
did you read this link
http://pastebin.com/irj4Fyd5
Is this the roleplay thread?
>>27697263
Ok so what are they messing with us for though?
>>27697263
So now that we know it will be all over?
>>27697391
ive been seeing alot of people calling shit out today
the more people who know the better
wouldnt say all over but better than being blind
The world gets more and more Orwellian and some things get worse and worse. It seems never ending and I want it to stop. Is there no hope?
>>27696870
Facebook? That sounds like a great site! I'll share it with my friends!
>>27697817
theres hope, but i dont think we'll ever see a end to it being stomped down
>>27698022
the only catch is it's owned by satan personified...
Right a lot of people in this thread are adding little to the discussion and responding in one sentence buzz word filled sentences(they are probably shills). they are doing this to try and disrupt our efforts. also i would add that almost all the posts on the top 10 are made by shills its very obvious if you look at the clues. they are trying to get rid of any discussion on the topic of them. we shall not fight each other here we shall remain on the topic and for the cause, also try not to change the thread into another unrelated topic that may have been done by shills. also i will post a list of reading material i copied of the old thread and i will also post lots of clippings i took.
good luck everybody lets get our website back.
http://pastebin.com/irj4Fyd5
http://cryptome.org/2014/02/gchq-psychology.pdf
http://cryptome.org/2014/02/gchq-cyber-effects.pdf
http://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm
http://cryptome.org/2014/02/gchq-online-deception.pdf
https://theintercept.com/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-02-24/conspiracy-theory-true-agents-infiltrate-websites-intending-manipulate-deceive-and-d
http://mirrors.dotsrc.org/fosdem/2014/Janson/Sunday/NSA_operation_ORCHESTRA_Annual_Status_Report.webm
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140224/17054826340/new-snowden-doc-reveals-how-gchqnsa-use-internet-to-manipulate-deceive-destroy-reputations.shtml
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_cointelpro07.htm
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_cointelpro07.htm
https://www.rt.com/news/five-eyes-online-manipulation-deception-564/
http://investmentwatchblog.com/reddit-enrichs-story-about-government-manipulation-and-disruption-of-the-internet/
https://yro.slashdot.org/story/14/02/25/0359246/nsa-and-ghcq-employing-loyal%20consumers-to-poison-web-forum-discourse
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/9845442/EU-to-set-up-euro-election-troll-patrol-to-tackle-Eurosceptic-surge.htm
http://europe.newsweek.com/35000-volunteers-sign-ukraines-information-army-first-day-310121?rm=eu
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/08/the-kremlins-troll-army/375932/
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jan/31/british-army-facebook-warriors-77th-brigade
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15869683
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reputation_management
here is some reading material i haven't even got through it all.
also read the pic.
another picture i got from the old thread.
this is some of what the ex shill said.
this is some evidence of shilling for the game undertale.
>>27698682
thank you so much,
ive been bumping this all day and it hasnt really been taking off
however ive been seeing shills getting called out all over today which is beautiful
thanks again for the quality post lets hope we get a discussion burning in here, as well as a flame in everyones heart for free thought.
>>27698800
yeah i think i might make some threads just to direct people here, its obvious that they are tying to wipe us of the top 10.
This whole paranoia is getting a bit stupid. I once told a robot with gingivitis to brush his teeth and he called me a toothpaste shill.
Given that there's different toothpaste companies, I fail to see how that robot can't think that I'm authentic.
>>27698889
that may be but that fact remains that shills are everywhere on our site. and your not helping solve the issue. paranoia is our best friend right now.
>>27698889
fuck off you obvious retard if you dont want to read
and discuss the actual evidence and provide thought provoking posts fuck off
>>27698889
usually its said in jest you autist
>>27699000
nice digits
and have you guys looked at this thread discussing the thread we had last night
>>27694487
so guys i think we need to ask ourselves what threads they were doing and come up witth a list.
cuck
wagecuck
trap
manlet
"why dont you just X"
lift
become a girl
please add to this list everybody.
>>27699051
that thread was definitely made by shills.
>>27699084
and we should ask ourselves
"did anybody actually enjoy these threads"
i enjoyed wagecuck ones occasionaly but not enough to participate. as for the others i did not like them to much. did you guys?
>>27699100
look how awkward their posts are, its so creepy and obvious
>>27697293
Shills do exist, but the majority of the time it's not a shill, just a retard.
Do not attribute to malice, what can be adequately explained by stupidity.
If you have PROOF of a shill, post it.
If someone's shitting up the board, it doesn't matter if they are a shill or not, they need to be removed.
Shills are more interested in providing disinformation and divide and conquer to more important targets than /r9k/ anyway.
In general, the best way to defend against shills is to be completely and utterly agnostic in every way. Be open to any and all viewpoints, but do not accept any of them. Then a shill is completely and utterly worthless.
Be your own person, and find your own opinions.
>>27699199
Adding that shills on /r9k/ DO exist, however the majority of them just want to make you feel like shit and shit up one of the few places hiki's have.
There's barely a difference between a normie and a shill, one is paid and one is not that's about it.
>>27699147
it was mostly stupidity but of course a real anon would come along and post something funny every once in a while, but it was all shit and
fucking manlet threads are so annoying as if anyone cares about that like fuck
>>27699177
I don't know, anon. If you can have a single guy making wagecuck threads everyday for the rest of his life, you can definitely have people under multiple layers of irony suggesting things like that.
>>27699199
Thank God there's someone with half a brain here.
>>27699248
doesnt mean that post wasnt a shill, doesnt mean it wasnt ironic, doesnt mean it wasnt both
I have a plan i might be shit and feel free to poke holes in it.
we starve the shills, we make sure everybody stays on this thread and this thread only and we assume all other threads are made by shills to try and get this thread away, through this we can easily identify them and what types of posts they do. Also the shills rely on us they are like a parasite, 4chan is the body we are the blood. without people to manipulate it will just be shills talking to shills and they wont be getting anything out of it. we starve them out and maybe something will force their hand.
I compiled an image of a bunch of /v/ astroturf-related posts in late 2013 but then I deleted it from my computer because OCD.
>>27699522
i think thats a lil unfeasible but to make this thread very active, have people discussing this everyday
posting evidence and methods of detection
posting things that make them obvious like
http://desustorage.org/_/search/text/%22why%20live%22/type/op/
making this thread active and posting others like it and ones pointing to our previous threads in places like /b/
best we can do, never going to get all of 4chan in one thread but maybe get everyone looking around and perking their heads up
>>27699681
this ones a lil better for shills then why live imo
http://desustorage.org/_/search/text/%22%3Enot%22%20%22it%27s%20like%20you%22/type/op/
>>27699681
yeah i agree, and we can at least avoid obvious shill threads now we know the subject matter they are paid to talk about.
>>27699989
gotta keep a eye out for ones trying to sabotage threads with opinions they dont like too
not just op's are shills
great examples of that in previous thread
>>27698707
bumping, read this stuff guys
inform yourselves
