If Bruce Lee told you to bee urself, would you?
Anything that man says is gold. Of course.
robots are allergic to being themselves
for the story Bruce Lee was really into this guy's "teachings"
https://youtu.be/lrKj3lRXeCM
>>27681865
We are always ourselves.
How could we be anything else?
>>27681865
Easy for him to say because he's a famous actor that made millions
>>27682197
nope. wrong.
most people are always escaping who they are. most people cannot stant being alone and sad, feeling less than etc
>>27682245
yup he woke up one day and he had millions
aren't you a dense little anon
>>27682279
if you are someone else, then who are you?
>>27681865
is this a real quote from him or just made up bullshit
>>27681865
What exactly is wrong with duplicating someone's success?
>>27682370
it means you should not grow a beard, wear cowboy hats and kick people all at the same time.
its the philosophical approach at individual copyright infringement
>>27682331
have you ever seen someone lost in their thoughts? or petrified in fear?
are you really yourself when someone is talking to you and you don't even hear it because you are far gone in a daydream that you don't even remember afterwards
where were you? were you yourself?
and when you are trying to become like someone you think had a better life than you do and you are always frustrated. are you being yourself?
>>27682279
They are dishonest cowards.
They're still themselves.
That's who they are.
>>27682370
because life made you unique for a reason.
copying is just a waste of your true expression
>>27682352
it appears in every list of Bruce Lee quotes there is, can't find an exact source but if bruceleequotes.org lists it why not
>>27682469
they don't know that. in fact they never faced that. and until they do they are not themselves. being yourself means being whole. if you are escaping parts of yourself, you are not yourself, obviously.
>>27682434
>are you really yourself when someone is talking to you and you don't even hear
Yes. You're still "you".
You're the sort of person who doesn't listen to people.
Why would listening to someone talk mean you were "more yourself".
Listening to people and paying attention to what's going on in the world is a good thing... but it's not "being yourself".
>>27682537
BEING yourself. understand? BE-ING
if you are not alive, are you yourself?
>>27682517
>... until they do they are not themselves.
>...
>if you are escaping parts of yourself, you are not yourself, obviously.
What pile of bullwank.
Or rather what a stupid phrase.
You are always yourself.
What you are describing is not "being yourself" but more like "honest introspection".
Who gives a fuck what Chuck Norris says
>>27682612
If you are not alive you are dead.
You can't just put the verb 'be' in caps and think it explains your thinking.
I don't think he'd have much approval of my life as a shota loving stoner with a GED who still leeches off his parents
>>27682654
>being yourself means being whole
well, if you don't get it. it's okay
>>27682709
thats my point. if you are not fully alive then you might aswell be dead.
so saying that someone lost in their thoughts is alive is really far from the truth.
>Bruce Lee will never take you under his wing and train your body to peak perfection and harden your character
why even live
>>27682306
That's usually how celeberities become famous
>>27682306
But, he actually did, or close to it. His mother was like royalty and the highest caste in Hong Kong.
99% of actors and celebrities had advantages and connections none of us can even imagine.
>>27681865
why would I
"bee yourself" is good advice if you have the correct personality. Hardworking, goal-oriented, ideally extroverted, confident and assertive, motivated, knows what he wants, takes pride in achievements, etc. My problem is that I'm the exact opposite of all of these things. If I bee myself people will (correctly) regard me as completely useless.
>>27682817
>>27682797
okay.
one day he woke and had amazing skills and a godlike body
>>27682846
if you find love. then the rest comes naturally. in fact the rest does not even matter.
Bruce lee found his love
>>27682755
A person who is lost in their own thoughts is still alive, they're not dead, or sort of only half alive.
They still exist.
The use of the word 'be' to mean some sort of complex live in the moment while also being exactly the right amount of introspective while paying the correct amount of attention to what other people are doing, saying, feeling and thinking is mind boggling. Or what ever larger concept you want to build around it.
Do you seriously believe that the phrase "be yourself" carries any actual weight of meaning to people?
It's just a sound bite that people say to have something to say.
Then later they build lots of meaning around it that doesn't exist for the people who they claim to be trying to help.
Hell yeah bitch.
I'm not a happy or functional person but I'll be a piece of shit for you Bruce.
>>27682937
> meaning around it that doesn't exist for the people who they claim to be trying to help
I tried to explain that. being yourself means being fully yourself. if you are lost in your thoughts you are not fully yourself. you not even paying attention to what going on.
have you ever ask yourself: what is living?
okay i can't stay here much longer watch this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcqOnQktQCY
if you are interested by this subject you can't go wrong with Jiddu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSMf8oW8jX8&list=PLE8CBF809AF7164FD&nohtml5=False
>>27681865
What about Thelonious Monk?
>>27682851
You're born with inherent talent, you simpering retard.
I hate it when people deny this. You might not develop certain skills, but your limit is determined by what you were born as, not "hurdur you didn't try hard enough man!".
Remember all the struggles Einstein had with solving basic equations? No? Me neither, but I since I just BARELY completed algebra IN COLLEGE with the help of a FUCKING TUTOR, with a B-, I better seriously pursue my dream of being a theoretical physicist!
>>27683395
And this is why "be yourself" isn't really advice.
It doesn't actually mean anything until it's explained at length.
>>27683492
So you're a dumb, low energy beta that thinks everyone is like you?
fuck Bruce Lee, who cares what some Asian manlet says. shitty actor that starred in some shitty movies and invented some shitty meme martial art that no one takes seriously. the rest of his life is a bunch of legendary bullshit stories that no one can verify.
>>27683513
i understand.
in fact it's an art. it's not easy. and it requires one to be really sensitive.
>>27683665
your legend is way better tho
>>27683533
>dumb
Yes, that's my point, assclown. Everyone has a limit. Thankfully, you've made my day by proving you're even more of an idiot than me.
>>27683665
salty much?
edgy much?
>>27683701
found the Asian manlet
>>27682846
This.
Don't be yourself, be the best you you can be.
>>27683737
i'm black. 5'9
stop being salty.
>>27683672
ah, and now the reverse psychology starts.
I don't get it because I'm not sensitive enough.
It's not that it's a vague soundbite, a phrase that exists mostly for saying... no it's deep and complex thing that requires me to watch a 5 minute video as a lead in to an hour long video which is the first of 7 hour long videos...
And all that is summed up by saying "just be yourself" to some poor kid who is having trouble with this, that or whatever... and you expect the phrase to have some meaning from their point of view?
It's a meaningless phrase said to give the the person that says it some sense that they are helping, it does nothing for the person you are saying it to.
>>27683861
oh dear, that's even worse
>be at work
>almost floor some 18 year-old coworker girl with a 120 pound box
>she gets mad at me for doing it
>asks if I care if she got hurt
>tell her no
Fast forward 2 days
>she brings it up with other people around
>tell her it's nothing personal, that I wouldn't care if I floored my own mother
>she's legitimately shocked
Just be yourself they told me.
>>27683919
so what's the issue here? that you expect people to like you how you are? how naive
>>27683492
>call someone a retard
>barely passed Algebra
OK buddy.
>>27683862
this is not my thread. i'm just a guest here.
and for me "be yourself" is a quest. you have to understand how to be, what you are and what it means ultimately etc.
but i like to understand things deepyl. i can't stay on the surface. but thats me. i don't know what OP thinks.
i agree with you on that.
i have been investigating for a while and it's really interesting, i found something :)
http://www.sosuave.com/articles/at/just-be-yourself-is-bad-advice.htm
Yeah fuck bruce lee. He should stick to fake fighting a dying an early death.
>>27683919
yeah being yourself does not equate acceptance from other people. what is your point?
>>27683962
>>27684006
The point is that "be yourself" is complete bullshit unless your entire personality is one that conforms to societal standards. People like me are not meant to be around others, especially females.
>>27683919
>Just be yourself they told me.
Yes, but "be yourself" actually means something along the lines of "Pay attention to what other people are doing but don't worry about what they think of you or how they feel but do care about how they feel, while listening to them but not so much that you worry"
This guy
>>27683395
thinks you should watch 7 hours of videos to make sense of it.
Bruce Lee is very wise. I like when he explains how there is no actual self beyond what one does, and it's through actions that we give ourselves identity. If we stop all action, we stop having an identity. People write philosophy books about this shit. Yet Bruce Lee learned it all through pure discipline as it comes to a certain skill set.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZ3hXg8x1p0
>>27684072
for you being yourself means being accepted.
that's not true at all.
you are just craving for acceptance. why do you want to be accepted?
>>27684072
the only reason you think it's bullshit is because you expected that girl to swoon for you when you told her you didn't care. THAT'S the problem, not you being yourself
>>27684079
well.
some thing demands learning anon.
7 hours is not a lot. some people can investigate a subject for 40 years and more
i think this subject is worth 7 hours or more of your time.
but thats me.
maybe you prefer to use ur time to watch animes, or tv shoes, or porn.
thats okay.
>>27683967
>this is not my thread.
No one owns threads, do people make an effort to keep track of how many people are posting?
>>27684130
being myself means being myself and nothing else. no fucking clue what the fuck you're going on about.
>>27684136
1) I didn't expect anything.
2) She's a nigger lover so I wouldn't even try to get her
3) You're digging for something that's not there.
>>27684218
it is there because you said as much. you didn't care, you told her, you were yourself. that's enough. the reason you think it's bullshit is because it's not enough for you to be yourself, but you want other people to like you for it. you don't get a cookie for doing what you're supposed to
>>27683967
>i don't know what OP thinks.
I don't think anything, I don't know shit, haven't even posted in the thread again until now.
>>27684241
how big is that shovel?
Never said anything other than I was myself & didn't give a shit.
>>27684290
>Just be yourself they told me.
why are you whining then. your greentext proves that you care.
>>27684290
>being yourself is bullshit
based on your story it seems you expected something more. you should elaborate about why it is you think it's bullshit and why you used that story as an example, otherwise you just look silly
>>27684241
I think hes saying be himself didn't get him positive results.
If you have a goal, but going about it the "just be yourself" way doesn't work, then you have to adjust. This is why just be yourself is bad advice, sometimes if you want something you have to do things differently and out of character to get it.
>>27684190
>As a side benefit, [Just Be Yourself] is also an answer which allows the advice-giver to feel a sense of smugness or superiority...
>And oh how people like to feel smug!
I'm using most of my time trying to get a MSc.
I spend quite a bit of time working on myself also.
I've spent a fair amount of time in therapy for a number of issues.
At the moment I'm working my way through CBT, I'm not sure how I feel about it yet.
"Be yourself" is a useless phrase when talking to someone who is struggling.
It means nothing to them.
They are themselves.
I understand that this whole Guru Beth Gaga Shaggy type person's philosophy might be of use to you... maybe it's great, I don't know.
I do know that somehow you've made "be yourself" into some massive thing about "listening"
>>27684345
I'm calling it bullshit because retards act like all you ever have to be in life is yourself and everything will automatically fall into place for you.
>>27684400
if it's true that getting what you want isn't part of who you are, then wanting it in the first place is the problem not the inability to get it
>>27684464
the only problem I'm seeing is you being angry because a girl didn't... what? what were you expecting from her when you were yourself? you're making your own problems out of nothing
>>27684538
no, the problem is that you're inferring your ass off and trying to tell me what I'm thinking. that shovel must stretch to the fucking moon.
>>27684610
I'm only repeating what you're saying and I do recall asking you to elaborate on why you think it's bullshit which you haven't done. it's up to you to talk to me, I'm not a mind reader otherwise what I've said is correct and you're just being a dope
>>27684538
>if it's true that getting what you want isn't part of who you are, then wanting it in the first place is the problem not the inability to get it
That just bullshit though. You're implying that adjusting in anyway is always gonna result in negativity, sometimes change is for the better.
You're preaching stagnation when adapting is one of the core necessities of human survival.
This is his best wuote.
Protip: It's not only about fighting
>>27684693
where did I say adjusting in anyway was going to result in negativity? the key phrase you glossed over is "if it was true". I was talking about your hypothetical scenario
>>27684696
The funny thing is, this totally contradicts the quote in op.
>>27684774
Good thing you didn't try to point out how otherwise we would see how stupid you are.
>>27683796
This to be honest, though once you're the best you you can be, all that's left is being/staying that self.
The best you you can be > faking success or duplicating other people > being the crappiest version of you.
In terms of effort it takes to get there, the same order applies which is why some people prefer to go for the fake stuff rather than actually becoming better.
>>27684774
Care to explain how?
>>27684741
I think you're just placing too much value on the "who you are" part. Most of us are who we are largely because of circumstances outside of our control, this is why I think just be yourself is bad advice, changing and trying to improve is a must better course of action versus being so attached to a version of yourself that you had very little to do with creating in the first place.
>>27681865
I am already myself.
>>27684430
well. i don't say that anymore. and it's not devoid of meaning. it just demand more investigation.
people will just think that it means do what you please and thats it.
well, i found somebody who really spent his life on the subject and i'm trying to understand his point. and i must say, for me, there is something really interesting to learn there: jiddu K
>>27685023
I think you have a misconception about who you really are and are basing it solely on external criteria instead of who are you are internally
Done for today.
I leave you with these ...
https://youtu.be/aYWcuD77lwo
https://youtu.be/AKNo3J4daDk
Remember... you are always you.
But what sort of person you are can change, changes, can be changed and has changed many times in the past, and will change in the future.
>>27684898
>though once you're the best you you can be, all that's left is being/staying that self.
Can't agree. There is no "best", there is no "make it". Its the journey, not the destination.
>>27685133
I'm not thinking in terms of girls and cars, I'm thinking about core values, our habits and how they effect us.
If you're a lazy fuck, and being a lazy fuck makes you unhappy, then change that shit. That's all I'm saying. Don't just "be yourself" and accept things as they are if there is better alternative available.
>>27681865
We can't all be like Water.
Some of us don't have the freedom to flow freely.
I'm surrounded by fucking beavers. Building damns all around. Trapping me in.
I guess all I can wish for is some sort of external event that causes a flood.
>>27685375
you're reaching the wrong conclusion. if he is unsatisfied being lazy and would prefer not to be, that means he's not being himself by being lazy. the laziness is a corruption of who he is
>>27685501
>>27685375
you are both wrong.
you can't be yourself and at the same judge a part of yourself as being bad or good.
>>27685611
you can accurately describe a part of you, anon. you can even call it good or bad I don't know why you think that's impossible
>>27685271
It was a very simple way of putting it to avoid making a wall of text; I agree with you there's no "best". (In the same way that "perfect" does not exist as something obtainable and is just a concept that allows a hypothetical ever-expanding journey.) In my opinion every step further on one's journey > a step prior to it > just faking things as a shortcut > not being on a journey altogether.
I do think there's a "make it" though. That point in life where the journey of self improvement and such hits a certain tipping point from which it becomes a self-sustaining source of motivation as well as allowing one to look at oneself and consider oneself at a decent and potentially content point in life. This does not mean the journey has to end as you can still continue the journey far past that point, but for me personally when I managed to hit aforementioned point it felt like I "made it" even though my journey is all but finished. Things have been going relatively well since, disappointments and setbacks take a much smaller toll to the state of mind, motivation exists to keep moving without it feeling like a nonstop drag, etc..
And I agree there's no real destination unless you specifically make one. Danger with that is once you reach said destination chances are you'll end up growing stagnant again and possibly even end up losing some of the progress of your journey over time. Prolonged stagnation can be detrimental.
Tl;dr, I agree.
>>27685501
No, we are what we do. Killing a 1000 people and feeling guilty over it doesn't change the fact that you are a murderer.
>>27685679
you're right it doesn't. what's that have to do with what I said?
>>27685673
being yourself means being yourself right now.
you don't have time to judge or classify etc.
i'm not saying it's impossible. i'm saying you are missing the point.
being means in the present. judging, describing etc comes at the cost of... not being yourself
>>27685701
Dude fuck it, we're going way too far out with this shit.
All I'm saying is, don't be yourself, self improve. Peace.
>>27685854
tell me anon, who do you think you are?
Sounds better coming from Bruce.
>>27685868
I'm saying self-improvement doesn't preclude being yourself
>>27685872
does it make sense or not?
i don't care what you think of me really.
so keep debating or well... peace out
>>27686010
nice meme ploxplox
>>27686036
bye anon.
farewell
