How exactly is porn really bad and how can it fuck people up? I keep seeing people say it can but I don't understand how, explain to me
>pic semi related
>porn addiction
>desensitization
>increasingly degenerate fetishes
>guilt
>>27641704
You will preferences porn over your girlfriend/wife
Happens to me
>>27641788
Would it be best if I just gave up on jerking off completely or just porn?
>>27641855
And that's a bad thing because?
>>27641869
Nofap is just a meme. You also don't have to give up porn completely, just watch in moderation.
>>27641704
It's like how some people can't orgasm during sex because they're too used to their hand.
>>27641704
If you're jackin' it too much, your brain is gonna get fried on dopamine, so take some time off every now and then. Do the nofap 90 day challenge if you feel it's a problem.
>>27641909
>Nofap is just a meme.
Can this meme end? The health benefits of semen retention goes back hundreds of years.
>>27641704
>be me
>have slight porn addiction
>have masterbation adiction
>Just enough to where sex isn't enough
>but wait
>have female orgasm fetish
>last forever in bed with qt 3.14
>become stud
>win
>>27642029
>The health benefits of semen retention
source.
I think it's scientifically proven to kill grey matter in your brain or something.
I dunno, it literally makes you dumb.
Op here, How about I just jerk off once or twice a week? I don't wanna have a lame cock before I graduate
>new girlfriend obsessed with my dick
>can't cum even to her perfect body
>>27642029
You can orgasm without cumming. I have been practicing and achieve it about 25% of the time at this point and I believe it's something you can train. If you look it up there's a bunch of mysticism crap around it, but it's for real.
the worst damage is already done, you were demystified/spoiled to sex before having the real thing and are unable to pair bond normally
that's really the sad part, addictions can be overcome but the memory from childhood cannot
>>27642029
Busting a nut regularly prevents testicular cancer and promotes fertility
The simplest test of "have I masturbated too hard and to shit that's too hard?" is this:
Masturbate with your non-dominant hand while focusing solely on the sensation of your cock. Do not fantasize; do not think about sex; do not think about porn. The only thought should be on the feeling of your cock.
If you can masturbate to ejaculation while doing that, then you have nothing to worry about. But most men can't.
>>27642069
This is true but I really wonder whether 4chan does the same thing almost as quickly.
I watched porn more in high school than now, yet it was 4chan that really had me feeling like I literally became dumber and lost attention span in school.
>>27642096
The average for guys is 2 or 3 times a week. It checks out.
>>27642162
can you do that?
I don't think I could do this even before I used porn, when I was 13 and I used fantasy.
The male brain didn't evolve to witness thousands of naked women having sex every day.
What will happen is you'll get bored and need more and more stimulation to get off. Then you get into the weird fetishes. After that, your chance of true intimacy with a real human being drops drastically.
If you're going to wank, at least use your imagination.
>>27642218
Replace sex with conversation
replace porn with the internet and 4chan
the same is true
>>27642162
Because they aren't faggots
>>27641788
>guilt
>2016
>unironically having a conscience
>>27642495
>1793+223
>unable to meme correctly
>>27642178
This place has definitely made me dumber. It's also changed my sense of humor completely.
I can't laugh at anything other than idiotic chan-humor.
>>27642240
conversation? people talked in person way more than they do now.
what we're doing right now is the ancient version of talking to a tree.
>>27642570
I can't say that's necessarily true for me, I still have my own in-jokes with family and such. I'm not far enough gone that I actually meme in real life except quietly to myself.
it's definitely made me hate TV humor though and find it completely unfunny.
And one thing I'm surprised it hasn't done is hamper my English skills. But that's because I actually write longer coherent posts than the majority and try to actually talk to semi intelligent people on /pol/ when the rare opportunity comes up.
>>27642162
Should I fap with my dominant hand if I always fall with my non dominant hand?
>>27641879
Because it ruins our marriage.
I really wish people would realize how much pain this issue causes.
It's a fucking nightmare for both of us.
I try to just live with it now but it still hurts if he dissaperes in the bathroom 4 times a day while ignoring me sexualy
>>27642218
At this point it's it to late probably anyway.
Maybe if you have immense willpower you will stop but even then you will have it in the back of your head for ever
>>27642638
Couldn't agree more with the TV humor. It makes me cringe and slightly angry when people try to use TV humor in real life. It actually made me cringe before 4chan, but now I fucking hate it and lose intellectual respect for anyone who thinks it's funny.
4chan has actually made me more considerate of my beliefs and expressing myself. As much as this place has ruined me, it's also made me a better person.
>>27642162
You mean most people can't cum without stimulation? Something must be wrong with them.
>>27642042
This right here. Can confirm. It's funny when I was a freshman one of the upperclassmen told me find a girl and last like 30 minutes and she'll tell her friends how great you are. Nigga I last for hours
>>27642856
the only way to fully reboot is full removal from technology and modern society (including women on the street) for like a year at least.
unless maybe you're on some sort of antidepressent that kills your sex drive.
>>27642906
But the idea is that you have a sexdrive just with women not with porn?
Sexdrive is per se not a bad thing.
It just should be lived with humans not with screens
I can't get fully hard. Nothing really excites me. Yet i can't stop watching it.
>>27642800
wow i've been gone for two weeks and this is goes without being called out
/r9k/ used to be my home board, it's gone to shit now
>>27643051
you actually WANT to be called out by other guys?
are you actually female or just pretending
>>27643051
Maybe people just like a warning from somebody who's experiencing that shit.
Or maybe nobady gives a crap.
You're the one who gave me attation tough
>>27643051
>makes b8 post
>gets ignored
Why is this a bad thing?
>>27643051
People get tired of replying to b8 all the time senpai.
>>27641869
It would be best to watch no porn at all, but masturbate as much as you want to as long as you're using your mind and not visual stimuli.
Porn every once in a while won't kill you though.
>>27641788
>increasingly degenerate fetishes
>not busting your ass on dildos and shoving sounds in your dick every night
Ayy
>>27642148
Speak for yourself, Anon.
I avoided a lot of possible cringe moments with girls due to my thorough research as a youth.
>>27642218
I mostly gave up on fetish porn once I started engaging in it myself.
There was always something to ruin the mood in videos.
>>27642638
Reading 4chan arguments has made me much better at spouting my rhetoric.
It dependson the porn, really. Also what you consider "bad".
For now, let's just talk about mainstream porn with mainstream porn stars.
>desensitized men to real women
>death grip
>porn stars are often physically harmed (tearing, cysts, prolapse, bruising, STDs, hemorrhoids, incontinence)
>makes it where a man will no longer desire sex with his aging wife, since he can just jerk it to fresh 18 year olds that didn't bear his children
>gives me an unrealistic portrayal of sex with women, and causes men to be horrible in bed because they grow up thinking women get off with five seconds of oral on what isn't even her clitoris and jackhammer pounding for five minutes
>men get butthurt when they realize that most women require clitoral stimulation to get off, and their dicks aren't magical
Obviously, this doesn't apply to everyone. But those are common problems I saw with men and studying men when I worked for a porn company for four years.
Obviously I use 2D homoshit porn and I'm not interested in carrying out a relationship with a 3DPD man, so most of these factors don't apply to me. As long as no one is hurt and you have a healthy life balance, fap to whatever you want.
>>27643787
All of this is completely true.
With that said, is there any physical downsides to fappeing? Does it seriously rekt your brain? This is something no one is ever able to confirm with a peer reviewed study. it's all BS self-fulfilling Chantard shit.
>>27643958
I think the downside to just fapping is mostly just death grip. Men go crazy if they can't ejaculate at least somewhat frequently.
>>27643958
It's broscience, bro, believe me.
>>27644020
>>27644092
I see.
The only thing I've ever noticed is that I'm much more chipper when I wake up in the morning (i.e. don't wake up feeling like I need another 5 hours of sleep).
>>27642155
Your body empties your sperm bank by itself without your consent. You never needed to masturbate in the first place
>>27644118
Do what makes you feel good.
If you're doing it to fall asleep, go do yardwork or try lifting.
Those that let masturbation control their lives are very few in number and you'd know it if you were one.
I've found 4chan to be more consuming of my life than fapping ever has.
>>27644173
>tfw your body is raping itself
REEEE
>>27642058
Many spiritual gurus from various religions in ancient times practiced semen retention, citing improved awareness, enlightenment, etc.
>>27642069
>>27642178
>>27642570
>>27642638
Depression is what fucked my brain up. When I was in senior year and then college I was posting here every day and still got As.
It wasn't until my small private social circle was destroyed and constant isolation just made me not want to think most of the time. I need to really focus so I don't fuck up. But it's mostly memory problems. I'm not turning dumb and don't think you all are either
>>27642162
lol but thats gay and original anon
Depends on how you watch it. If porn is a crutch, meaning that when you watch it you are instantly relieved of any anxiety or negative feelings, then you have a problem. This is what people mean when they say 'porn addiction'; that the porn becomes a psychological safe-haven. Additionally, if this is the case, regular sex is no longer appealing because it can't compare, so if you ever do get with a girl you can't get it up.
I have extensive experience with it. I've been taking viagra for years because I can't get a boner when I'm with a girl. Also, I find a girl gross once she's naked because she's nowhere near my porn-level fantasies of women.
If you watch porn the same way you watch an action movie, and you get nothing but a nice dose of dopamine and a little break from the daily drudgery, then go ahead and watch. But if porn is your drug of choice, you need to detox.
>>27642218
Been watching porn for over 15 years and this has never happened to me. I still prefer nice vanilla stuff. I don't know where this meme comes from.
>>27644402
Some people smoke for years and don't get addicted.
Some people even smoke after there get parts of there lungs cut out or after they need oxygen to walk up the stairs
Porn turned me into a cuck. Can only get off to watching women getting bred by Black bulls.
It's a major , major problem. And I wouldn't wish this ailment on my worst enemy.
It varies person to person really but porn addiction for me is very real and over the years has turned me into a sick perverted degenerate.
I'm so desensitized vanilla porn does nothing for me unless the girl is special. Then again I find vaginas fucking disgusting looking and have a huge anal fetish so vanilla was always meh.
>>27641704
MKULTRA never ended.
>>27644530
I don't even watch porn that much, but I am afflicted by this too.
>>27641704
That ass is hella shooped
>>27644530
>>27644870
so am I except it also has to be anal
I can't stand any mention of race or cuck shit in the video though
all I wanna see is an ugly black benis in some young blonde asshole
I rationalize it by realizing that I'm racist and I (kind of) hate women, so ultimately it is the "worst of the world" breeding with the "symbol of innocence"
Before you call me a cuck consider that my other favourite type of porn is tentacle or 2D beast. I know I sound edgy as fuck but I see distinct similarities.
>>27641704
addiction to it, like addiction to anything, can fuck you up.
in general there's absolutely nothing wrong with porn, and humans have been creating and consuming pornography in various forms since the day we learned how to draw pictures.
i mean, they once tried to do a study on the effects of porn, but they couldn't find anyone who didn't watch it for a control group.
>>27645019
I went through my anal faggotry phase when I was younger and miraculously got re-attracted to vagina and found it exotic and novel as of 2 years ago or so.
I now have a thing for old/young lesbian where a teen has to eat an ugly roastie mom
>>27641704
Sex is just a meme, dude.
>>27645019
I honestly got addicted to cuck porn via blacked. I was sort of weened into it, because the blacked girls are so hot and the production of the porn videos are really high quality. Over time, I just found myself unable to get it up to anything other than cuck porn. It's probably because I associated myself with the male pornstars.
>>27643787
It's really all about the minipenis? All bets off.
>>27641704
Porn is bad.
If you watch porn or defend porn, you are bad.
Don't be bad.
How the fuck is that so hard to understand?
>BTFO
Not in favour of banning or restricting porn in any way, but my experience is consistent with the "your brain on porn" video.
Basically, never before have we had access, pretty much 24/7 to porn on this level. My dates\estimates may be off, but you get the point:
>Colour photography is only about 100 years old
>Colour video accessible to most people at home is only about 30 years old (1980's VHS porn boom).
So life over the past 100 years has been radically different in terms of what images you could access, than how it was for people living for 10,000 years before that.
>Internet porn is only about 20 years old
>HD porn is only about 10 years old
>4k porn is only about 3 years old
So only since about 2010 has it been possible to easily stream HD footage of really hot girls cucking their white boyfriends ( >>27645371 ).
As the "your brain.." video makes clear, most guys now edge for long periods of time (I've sometimes spent a whole day edging), and that's a day of hyperstimulation of dopamine receptions with opioids or whatever. You're basically destroying your ability to get pleasure and a sense of meaning out of life and the world. It also points out that feelings of 'shock' or emotional turmoil (like cucking, or seeing kids molested) increase the dopamine hit and become addictive.
Anyway, this is a complex issue - because I only got into porn in the first place because I found the world and women to be terrible, and I don't regret avoiding the world, but porn isn't the answer. I don't buy into the "false expectations" thing - most sex acts in porn have been done for thousands of years, at women's initiation. Perhaps it's lying about the extent of male agency and control when it comes to sex.
You CANNOT allow yourself to have constant 24/7 access to a "mega pleasure hit" button, you just end up like a monkey, hitting it constantly and becoming disinterested with everything else.
>>27641879
>actually believing those posts
The stories posted on this site are almost always entirely fiction. It's very safe to assume these posts are bullshit.
By the way my dick is 8 inches long. No I am not lying this is the truth.
>>27641788
>>porn addiction
As real as weed addiction
>>desensitization
Only low test fags get desensitized to sex
>>increasingly degenerate fetishes
Muh subjective memes
>>guilt
Stop being a little BITCH
>>27646640
>Only low test fags get desensitized to sex
Desensitisation is about Dopamine levels, not Testosterone, bruh.
>>27646707
>being so much of a fucking queer you let dopamine take over your testosterone
>>27642606
that was pretty funny, tree
>>27641869
Just watch normal porn and not too often.
>>27641704
If you become addicted to porn, it's because you have an addictive susceptibility.
You'd probably become addicted to food, booze, heroin, or anything else just as easily.
So, the porn isn't the problem.
>>27641788
>guilt
This really is a bullshit meme. If culture didn't fuck with you, you wouldn't care.
There's nothing intrinsically guilt-inducing about porn.
>go a few days without wanking
>start getting all energised and enthused
>start talking to girls
>HOLY SHIT YOURE BORING AS ALL FUCK
>AND IF I GO WANK I WONT RISK PREGNANCY OR DISEASE
>wank
>repeat
everytime
>>27647273
The problem has just been serviced more efficiently, anon.
It's like trying to force yourself to go spear fish when you can just go to the supermarket or McDonalds.
>>27647260
>This really is a bullshit meme. If culture didn't fuck with you, you wouldn't care.
Culture is inevitable, though. The 'guilt' will exist on some level for everyone, because you obviously don't want other people seeing what you fap to.
>>27647273
>start getting all energised and enthused
Why don't you put that energy and enthusiasm into something other that girls AND porn?
>>27647310
If you really accept being an "outsider" and its price, you'll see what the payoff is.
>>27642218
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYLjHhSOE7s
It can be dangerous if you forget how to use your imagination.
>>27647326
im doing a law degree and starting a business :x
>>27647300
right on man. getting a girl pregnant (when you arent interested in that) is so fucking scary.
>yo senpai im gonna take control of this situation away from you and burden you with social and financial responsibility for 2 decades :P enjoy!
no thanks...
>>27641704
Porn is sex for the viewer, not the people involved. It often sets up unrealistic expectations for what sex is supposed to be. On top of that, it can create deep insecurities in both men and women but especially men who don't understand all the camera tricks going on and the idea that no, most women really don't a 10 inch long coke can thick penis ramming in and out of their pussy and/or ass.
>>27642146
>watch porn over 16 years
>hentai, futa, cp, tranny porn, gay porn,
>can only be attracted to 13 year old girls in real life now
>because i've seen so much porn
Yeah I think it's done its damage on me, normal women just seem too plain and degenerate for me after seeing them in porn so much, same with trannys and men, in real life I can only be attracted to 13 year old girls because they seem clean and the height of perfection
>>27641704
If you manage to get a girlfriend you wont be able to cum without porn. Happening to me.
