convince me that being a shut in is bad
people are getting shot and blown up by terrorists
people are getting killed in car accidents
people are losing life and limb in shark attacks while having a day at the beach
people are getting killed in plane crashes
people are contracting sexually transmitted diseases/infections
everywhere you look death is waiting around the corner to ambush people on a daily basis
meanwhile i am living a healthy life in the safety of my mothers house enjoying my days watching anime and playing video games
so convince me how i am "wasting my life" when people my age are dying every day as a result of stupid normie shit while i am perfectly safe and still alive
>>27639997
This.
I agree.
>>27639997
Whatever makes you happy
I'm not being condescending either. I'm a shut in too. I would love if I was able to connect with more people or if the outside world wasn't complete lunacy in just about every way possible. Oh well I guess
Just do you mang
>>27639997
BUT YOURE NOT ALIVE
>>27639997
What is bad is that it doesn't provide a means of income. I'm basically at the point wherein if I don't have a job soon I'll end up homeless.
Being a shut in can only work if you are being financially supported. That in itself is pretty selfish as you are expecting others to work and earn money to fund your lifestyle.
>>27640140
i'm more alive than the normies at that concert in france that got btfo
>>27639997
>healthy life
>watching anime and playing video games
Enjoy your heart disease, diabetes, muscle degeneration, osteoporosis, obesity, hernia, deep vein thrombosis and other diseases that come with that lifestyle.
I'm not saying you should share a needle while skydiving in North Korea, but your other end of the spectrum only grants a shittier, less spectacular death.
Plus anime and video games are only fun in small doses.
You're over exaggerating how many people die in violent accidents.
You're doing more harm to yourself staying in one, enclosed environment.
The STD bit is true, though.
>>27640180
What about the ones that lived? They got like 10 extra live points on you
>>27639997
We both do whatever makes us happy. However, I enjoy socialising and chilling with my gf too much to give it up for nothing, and recently I lost interest in vidya and other stuff. Besides, you're overstating the dangers of being outside. Then again I do engage in genuinely dangerous stuff like heavy drinking and recreational drug use, so what do I know, I guess.
As for the living with my parents, for me it's mostly a matter of pride. I also have a lot more freedom, and to me freedom is more important that security with restrictions.
>>27640215
I've had unprotected sex with 5 girls over the span of 12 years.
My blood results came back not too long ago, turns out all I had washepatitis B
>>27639997
Nothing wrong with it until your mommy can not afford you and kicks you out, which is what will happen most likely in this year because you sound like your 18.
>>27640180
So? You know how many concerts don't end with a terrorist attack? Like 30 million or how many concerts there have been in the history of humankind. Those are some pretty good odds. You're more likely to die in your shower.
Because being antisocial is unhealthy and you'll die sooner if you are
Becuase you are living a simulated half life and in times of reflection feel terrible. Your life is one of distracting yourself from what you should be doing and who you really are
Because fulfillment comes from overcoming difficult challenges and video games don't count because they aren't real
Becuase youa re a bitch pussy
>>27640180
>i'm more alive than the normies at that concert in france that got btfo
Kek
>>27640241
Fuck off normalfag.
Seriously what the fuck gives you the idea that your ilk is welcome?
>>27640381
Because it's a board with no entries. Besides, the whole point of 4chan is that everyone's opinion is equal, so I'm just as welcome here as you are, friend.
>>27639997
For every 8 people that die each day, worldwide, 1000 people don't.
Intentional deaths (of which acts of terrorism are a minority) make up less than 3% of all deaths.
Deaths by car accident make up around 2% of all deaths.
Shark attacks, and plane crashes make up less than half a percent of all global deaths.
STIs account for the most deaths on your list, that's around five percent.
So, accounting for every thing you've listed, your reason for being a shut in is you're worried about a 1:1000 event?
>>27640256
I'm 26 and still live with her.
I'm gonna stay forever normalfag >:^)
>>27639997
>shark attacks
>plane crashes
is this bait? you have more of a chance of suffocating on food than you do of dying from either of those things
>>27640490
>1:1000 event
>Daily
The average lifespan would be like, 3 years if that were true.
>>27640256
>americans get kicked out of their houses the morning they turn 18
>>27640580
well, at least they can also legally buy alcohol as adults so they drink to forget their tr-oh whoops no they can't
>>27640490
>you're worried about a 1:1000 event
all those people who were killed in that terrorist attack never thought something like that would happen to them
it happened
they're dead
i'm not
if they decided to order a pizza and spend the night marathoning the melancholy of haruhi suzumiya instead of going out like normal fags they would still be alive
>>27640645
or they could have choked on the pizza and died, or they could have slipped in the tub and broken their neck and died, or fell down the stairs and broke their neck and died, etc.
>>27640789
or none of that would have happened because you are a fucking normie sympathizer and probably one of them
>>27639997
>convince me that being a shut in is bad
You're wasting perfectly good and usable organs that are biologically programmed and meant to interact with the organic/inorganic environment around you in order to procure resources for survival.
To reject your biology is physically and mentally detrimental to every single fiber of your being imaginable and a waste of precious organic matter that took billions of years to evolve into the most physiologically complex organism in the current known universe.
If you're gonna do nothing but consume resources, the least you could do is leave us some healthy organs to harvest, but being a shut in will not produce said results.
>>27639997
>convince me that being a shut in is bad
But being a shut-in isn't bad, otherwise you wouldn't be one. Humans are programmed to seek out the most beneficial course of action for themselves. The world is garbage now so the best you can do is stay in your home.
>>27640967
>muh contribution
the average normie wageslave doesn't contribute shit to the world and is easily replaceable
and my organs are my own, i'm not letting some other piece of shit undeserving cunt have them when i kick the bucket
>>27639997
hahaha when you die from your undiagnosed diabetes at 30, just a second before passing away, you will wonder for the first time if fear mongering news are reliable sources to depict the outside world. your range of emotions will not have varied throughout your whole existence, and maybe, just maybe, then, before passing away, you will realize you never were alive in the first place.
Being a shut in itself is fine if you are supporting yourself. But just like in NHK, the lifestyle does hurt others that you depend on and it probably won't last forever.
>>27639997
Your home state/country could be nuked by North Koreans in an opening salvo of the third World War. Or maybe you're just extremely paranoid.
>>27641193
I go outside and there are niggers and loose pitbulls. I go into town and there are vapid women buying purses and overpriced coffee with their husbands' money. I go to anime conventions and they're full of normies, SJWs, and faggots. I go to bars and they're full of drunk assholes being obnoxious. I meet people my age and they are insufferable, I meet people older and they are boring, and I meet people younger and get called a pedophile.
Please tell me, anon, where I am supposed to go.
>>27641086
>contribution
I never mentioned anything about contributing anything to the world.
You're an animal with programmed biology. To reject your biology will only produce negative outcomes for all intensive purposes ("bad") and nigh impossible, because even if you choose to be a shut in, solar energy will still be able to penetrate those walls and interact with you.
You will never be separate or isolated from the universe around you because biology wills it.
There is no alternative, even if you perceive there to be one, it is false. You will never truly be a shut in.
Your house could be blown up by terrorists
A car could crash into your house
This one can't happen on land, but not everyone swims anyway
A plane could crash into your house
A man could break in and rape you
But all things considered, a lack of a healthy lifestyle is more likely to kill you than any of those.
>>27640901
Wew, no need to get so toasty. There's nothing wrong with being a shut-in imo, but that guy does bring up a valid point. There's nothing you can do to 100% prevent a premature death or injury. If you'd rather sit inside all day, go for it.
>>27640180
frenchfag here- do you realise how statistically stupid your logic is? when people died, even if i, or people i know have been to these places or were supposed to be, you just need a few days to realize that's maybe a few days worth of lives lost in car accidents and move on. why should i let a bunch of dumb retards tell me how i live? people still do the same shit as before, the big thing currently is protesting against a new law about working. move on, we did.
>>27641343
Your country is still full of sandniggers though.
>>27641343
So are you black or muslim?
>>27639997
Im not having a go, but being a shut in is horrible for me. I hate the mental stagnation and monotony of not taking risks and going new places and trying new things.
My life is pretty fucking far from perfect, but id rather violently die from hitting a Bull while drunkenly riding a motorbike on the way to some place I've never been, than live to be 100 never having left the suburb I grew up in.
They tell me that can be a symptom of antisocial personality disorder.
>>27641303
>because i don't leave the house i can't be healthy
i have my own weight set and i run laps around the yard
and despite the normie meme where shut ins live on junk food i actually eat pretty healthily
>>27641534
>going outside
fucking normie
>>27641272
The woods. When I'm backpacking alone, I'm truly alive. The feeling of managing and controlling risks, accepting or avoiding danger at my own discretion and pleasure - feels good.
have you tried to talk to any of these awful people individually? how many people are there out here that you can tell what are their goals in life, or thoughts on love, friendship, life? or are you just a smug asshole because you're too insecure to go meet actual humans? guess what, if you think people suck before even talking to them, you'll never experience people! you just talk to them on the internet, like here, because the anonymous side of it relieves the social pressure on you and you can get some ersatz of that healthy, vital, dose of empathy by talking to people about things that matter to you. the deal is pretty simple: find someone that can listen to you, listen to that person, and then you have a friend who will care about you or at least pretend to before it actually does. it's not rocket science.
>>27641664
that was meant as an answer to >>27641272
by the way, maybe you just live in a shithole. if that's the case, you should move.
personally, i would be a shut in if i hadn't experienced stuff that convinced me that videogames were just interesting because they were more predictable than actual life. have you ever tried being in love? building something? going on a trip by yourself? man, emotions are better when they are genuine. when was the last time you took an actual risk, that was not virtual? doubt you actually feel at peace with yourself when turning off the computer.
>>27641641
That's a good idea. I haven't gone to the woods in awhile.
>>27641810
You're making a lot of assumptions. I have talked to people, that's how I know I don't like them. I don't like them because they're predictable and have predictable opinions (terrorism is bad, everything in moderation, good things come to those who wait, free will is real, etc. the list goes on).
I build things daily, it's my hobby. I took risks for years; I rode a motorcycle and did MMA, so I know the fear of physical harm intimately, and guess what? The more risks you take, the more gambles you lose, the more broken you become, and the closer you get to death.
I feel at peace on the computer as long as there's enough new media to keep me entertained, and even on boring days it's a hundred times better than social interaction.
All emotions do is get you in bad situations where you make bad decisions. It's true in fighting, it's true in life.
>>27639997
Think about the people you love and care about. Would you want to be a detriment to them? Is your mother proud of you and glad that you are her son? Chances are that is not the case. You can still enjoy the things you do, but do so without the expense of others Anon. Good luck and sweet dreams to you tonight.
love,
Another fellow Anon.
>>27641939
oh, okay then, i stand corrected. if your hobby is to get punched in the face, it's obviously kind of destructive i guess. though i don't believe all emotions get you in bad situations. ever had any romantic partner? break ups suck, but being in love doesn't. and sometimes that actually happens.
>>27642117
Nah, I don't do MMA any more. I build electrical and mechanical things in my workshop. I had a girlfriend in high school, but she didn't want to fuck so we broke up. I don't see the point otherwise, and at this point I'd have to do so much social catch-up to try again that getting my dick wet isn't worth it. Especially since I don't findadultwomen particularly attractive. In my case, following my emotions would be an enormous risk, one that I'm not willing to take.
>>27642211
oh, okay, well i guess in your case it probably makes sense. though friendship can be pretty cool. it took me a long time to meet people that are actually interesting. they never look like they are, but they exist. you seem to actually know a bunch about life, wouldn't you enjoy to share this knowledge with someone that reminds you of a past self?
good on you for not trying to get your dick wet. consider this as the thank you you'll never get from society for repressing your sexual urges for the greater good.
>>27642412
I've tried for decades to find people that were interesting. I don't doubt they're out there, I'm just incapable of being interested in them.
Just to let you know, I'm no exception. Most people on this board have good reasons for being the way they are, even if they're bad at articulating them. Humans are social creatures, they don't give up on interaction unless the costs outweigh the benefits severely. Some people just aren't made for other people, and this is where we come to feel a little better about it.
>>27642572
well since i was a little kid i've been repeatedly told i was weird, abnormal, and grew up being mostly ostracized (i've been diagnosed at 14 as surefficient and it wouldn't be too hard for me to be diagnosed as being somewhere o the spectrum, i guess) but as you just said, a lot of people feel that way too. i'm a student currently in an exchange trip in another country, and i just had, tonight, a discussion with my roommate on how most people are annoying, all the bad dynamics you can see in groups of males, how society mostly judges you on your sexual and economic potential, etc. he told me he really wasn't used to opening up like that. it took me months to realise how smart the guy is, and at first glance he looked like an average, stereotypical bro. people are surprising.
>>27642822
I guess I just don't see the point in telling someone all that. I've done stuff like that before and all it did was take up time. I didn't feel like I gained anything from it.
>>27642908
empathy is pretty cool. but if you seem sure about your shut-in thing, why not? honestly, i think i could shut-in myself like that if i ever get tired from people and life in general and money isn't a problem. i like being by myself, but it really has to be a choice. as long as i keep discovering new, positive emotions that i didn't knew could exist before, i'll keep interacting with fellow humans.
would you say you feel like you gain anything from your current lifestyle?
>>27643123
>would you say you feel like you gain anything from your current lifestyle?
Yes, I enjoy the solitude and I enjoy working on my hobbies. I still feel loneliness, but interacting with people doesn't cure it so I just assume my brain is broken. Probably the empathy part, I just did that test in the other thread and got 4 out of 80.
>>27643192
yeah, i know how you can feel lonely in a crowd. i'd say it's not about being surrounded and interacting with people, or being popular or talkative, but more about creating a bond with these people. like, you know people will actually feel like they lost something when they show up at your funeral. i'm kind of a nihilist most of the time, but it's still nice to know a few people will actually care about me if something bad happens. we are all alone in this cold, cold universe, so it's good to rub shoulders sometimes, since everyone is in the same pointless ride. your electrical and mechanical hobby sound awesome, but do you share what you make with anyone? like, show it on the internet or something?
when you die,will it just go in a trash bag with the contents of your fridge when people finally find out you're not part of the world anymore?
>>27643397
>but more about creating a bond with these people
This is what I can't do.
As for my hobby, I put it on the internet, but I'd rather not cross-pollinate and have that information on /r9k/, what with the other information I've posted here and all.
>>27643496
yeah, i understand that, of course, this is 4chan after all. stay wise.
i guess you have to admire people a little before wanting to create bonds with them. like, find some quality that they have but you don't, realize they're not even aware of their qualities, and actually admire you for qualities you never saw as such. this happens a lot. have you ever had a role model, someone that you might have wanted to become? i guess the first time i heard about one was when discovering lovecraft, who is pretty much as inapt at interacting with humans as you can go.
also, do you make concessions on who you are when talking to people? is there a huge gap between your thoughts and your actions?
>>27643750
>have you ever had a role model, someone that you might have wanted to become?
No, only people that I wanted to become better than in some aspect.
>also, do you make concessions on who you are when talking to people? is there a huge gap between your thoughts and your actions?
Not at all, I am myself no matter where I am. I used to do that shit back in school, but it never works. Even if people don't like who you are, they'll like you even less when you're pretending to be someone else because either I'm too dumb to fake it well or they're too smart to be fooled.
>>27643844
better? that's a pretty competitive mindset for a shut-in.
about the concessions, i think you're right. it never works, and nobody is happy in the end.
>>27639997
Fuck you stay inside, we don't want you kill yourself
>>27640191
>Plus anime and video games are only fun in small doses.
maybe for you, for me video games is fun in small doses but I'll be able to watch anime non-stop until there are no more good ones to watch, which at that point i will rewatch all the good ones. but for some people it might be the opposite, my brother watches a little bit of anime but mostly spends all day playing vidya trying to be a pro gamer and i think he loves doing it.
>>27643844
good night anon, hope someday you find some IRL people to listen to what you said to me on this thread, because i'm off back to this magma made of the others humans, and will never know how you're doing again.
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Former 8 year hiki.
In all seriousness I wouldn't say it was a bad thing going through the shut in lifestyle. I don't really have the words to explain it, but it's an experience that will teach you a lot, and you will have insight in to this life others really won't understand or appreciate.
And when you make you're recovery, you will be shocked at how much you're able to accomplish.
There's a light at the end of the mess you're in. I promise ever single one of you, so long as you don't give up.
