Why do betas on r9k think that they're supposed to get a virgin supermodel girlfriend if they acknowledge that they're ugly and have no social skills? There are tons of hideous women out there who can't get a man, but all of you ugly shits think you're too good for them despite your trash genes. Please explain.
>>27598193
A lot of them are self proclaimed autists so they obviously don't know how the world works but that won't stop them from bitching that's for sure
>>27598193
can i at least go for a 7/10 if im a 6? is it too much to ask to get a girl just one point above you? i don't want a supermodel by all means, but i still wanna be attracted to the girl i would be dating.
>>27598193
> they're supposed to get a virgin supermodel girlfriend if they acknowledge that they're ugly and have no social skills?
That's not true. I am self aware and that's why I know I WONT be able to get a gf. Do I blame girls for this? No. I'm not a good catch and any girl who went out with me would be settling, so it wouldn't work out
>here are tons of hideous women out there who can't get a man
A few? Yeah. Tons? Fuck no. Most ugly women are already taken
>>27598275
Yeah it just seems too oblivious. Like seriously I just saw a thread on r9k denigrating some woman's appearance and saying she doesn't deserve to live and I was like "wait aren't you guys all complaining that shallow people think you're ugly and won't fuck you?" Have sex with her or shut up.
>>27598287
Go for whoever you want. The issue is not with people who are actually going for girls, believe me... >.>
Because I didn't choose my genes. I'm getting punished for something I couldn't change.
I'd rather be alone than have an ugly girlfriend
>>27598316
>I'm getting punished
What the fuck do you mean you're getting punished? Are you implying that a girl's genes not being up to your standard makes her a punishment for you? Bloody hypocrite. -.-
>>27598287
Beggars can't be choosers. If you're consistent,y being rejected by someone near your "number" then you need to reevaluate your number.
Not to mention most women count factors like personality, social status, or wealth. Men of every age and status want a young, healthy BMI woman. A man being young and of healthy BMI simply isn't worth as much due to the lack of value because most older women prefer men older or around their age.
>>27598317
Okay; that's your choice. Now are you going to hop on another thread and bitch about how you don't have a girlfriend because you aren't 6'7" and jacked?
>>27598356
Finally someone sees this. Robots are fucking delusional.
>>27598343
I mean being treated worse for things out of my control. Like Halo effect.
>>27598193
Like seriously; what if all of the girls in the world actually refused to date ugly men regardless of personality or their own physical appearance? How would you feel if some fat cow took one look at you and arrogantly said you were ugly and didn't deserve to exist? Like seriously?
I don't think I'm incapable of getting a girl but I have trouble finding someone I get along with and I don't really know where to meet girls.
Looks don't really make a difference to me.
>>27598287
Most robots rate themselves higher than they actually are. Rate threads being an exception where they don't want to come off as arrogant
>>27598193
They are just only attracted to the pretty girls. It's natural. I'm an ugly girl too OP I know your anger but they can't help it's biological.
>>27598436
I know that feel. The only girl I truly liked was kinda on the ugly side, but she was the only person who I could really bee myself around. If you're going to spend a lot of time with someone and you're not looking for a one night stand, then personality means waaay more to me, I don't know how people go for primarily looks so often.
>>27598349
yeah i see what you're saying but i've never even tried to pursue girls yet, i've gotten a few hints and cues that a girl might be interested in me pursuing them but i also may be delusional too. either it be at work or community college. i haven't had a girl flat out approach me though, so i think i am leaning towards being average.
>>27598450
Do you find yourself only attracted to handsome men?
>>27598450
Like I'm actually a dude though--I was just getting seriously annoyed at the echo chamber bullshit.
>>27598474
also inb4 "blah blah white knight"
>>27598463
I wish there were ways to meet girls that aren't Normies for lack of a better term.
>>27598440
i thought it was the complete opposite? robots are the most self-loathing self-deprecating humans are the planet, why would they give themselves the extra point if they clearly hated themselves. or is it all just fake self-hatred? are most people on this board phony?
>>27598403
I don't think you're hearing me.
Okay, I'll be the first to admit that the sociology of physical appearance can be unfair, mostly when it comes to first impressions (which are important).
HOWEVER.
You still seem to be viewing this whole thing as a free towel giveaway where someone is giving you a small thin shitty towel just because you look different, while all of the "Chad's" in the world get big, thick, luxurious towels and you have to just watch that happen and be happy. This is not what is happening.
You are a person. They are a person. You both need to look at the other person (ideally more than just on the surface) and decide that the other person is not only worth your time but more worth your time than any of your other possible options (including future options). You are not the only one doing this. The girl is not a towel. She is doing the same mental math as you, and if you wouldn't sleep with the female version of you, why the fuck should she sleep with you?
>>27598474
I know how you feel but you have to realize that people don't come to the internet to have their views challenged or to have their mind changed about things. They come to the internet to have their views reinforced and r9k this is especially true. It doesn't matter how delusional people here can be, you're not going to change their mind when this board is a hugbox for them that just tells them what they want to hear.
>>27598465
If you think they're approaching you they are. It took me a while to realize this. Girls are subtle bastards.
>>27598523
>You still seem to be viewing this whole thing as a free towel giveaway where someone is giving you a small thin shitty towel just because you look different, while all of the "Chad's" in the world get big, thick, luxurious towels and you have to just watch that happen and be happy. This is not what is happening.
Actually that's exactly what's happening.
Please look up "just world theory" because you're shoulder deep into it.
>>27598523
>You still seem to be viewing this whole thing as a free towel giveaway where someone is giving you a small thin shitty towel just because you look different, while all of the "Chad's" in the world get big, thick, luxurious towels and you have to just watch that happen and be happy. This is not what is happening.
That's actually exactly what's happening. What you said further does not disprove that.
>>27598522
It's a strange mix of self hate but still thinking they're better than everyone else.
>>27598534
Can't hurt to try, though. :) I don't mind the hugs as long as they aren't bs hugs.
>>27598550
omg you're killing me, here. People are not objects to be given away. The reason that this is not what is happening is that the dating game is not a giveaway and has nothing involved in it which even suggests the idea that it should be or ever was equitable in any way. This is the game of evolution, and you have to either better yourself or lose. Now who's the one trumpeting just world theory? -.-
>>27598465
>never tried to pursue girls
>wondering what's wrong
Women prefer to be pursued. Women drop hints almost like an invitation to court, but won't directly approach a guy.
>>27598590
>This is the game of evolution, and you have to either better yourself or lose.
Not him but why should I not be angry about this? I'm expected to better myself and work extra hard because of things I didn't choose. Just because of pure luck. That's fucking bullshit.
>>27598487
Same, I feel like past high school it's just too difficult. I'm not in a uni so maybe that's why, but where do the non-normie girls go after that? I know they exist but finding them past a certain age seems impossible or I'm just not looking hard enough, which could be it. Is online dating really my best bet? I feel like online dating is now only used for hook ups or older couples looking to get married quick.
>>27598590
No shit it's not equitable? You're agreeing with me, idiot.
You cannot "better yourself" into becoming a 10, it's 100% a genetic lottery.
>>27598650
All I'm saying is if you accept how bs you find the--very subjective--prevailing definition of "good genes" or "attractiveness" when it comes to you, why do you then apply that same subjective socially defined logic to women you don't know? If you know that you are ugly as hell and that you are actually a good guy and "deserve" a hot girl, why would you then look at an ugly girl and say "oh shit, she's ugly as hell. why is she alive?" when you know firsthand how bullshit that is?
>>27598641
only if you're simultaneously judging other people on things that they didn't choose. (but why can't *i* have a hot one)
>>27598720
Yeah I'm doing that. So what? Giving them a taste of their own medicine. Also they started it by treatign me like shit for things out of my control. It's only logical to retaliate.
>>27598697
That's absolutely true, but it doesn't stop others from dismissing those who are less attractive than themselves, which is what robots are frustrated about, allegedly.
>>27598742
Jesus dude, do you hear yourself? Women are not a monolith which has wronged you. Some women don't want to have sex with you. Cool. Some women don't want to have sex with me, either. That doesn't mean that by rejecting an ugly woman, you're getting back at the ones who you feel have hurt you. In fact, you're ironically just making them stronger by entrenching them at the top of a hierarchy of women based upon appearance alone: exactly what you don't like. Chances are, the ugly woman you're degrading resents pretty girls almost as much as you do. Not to mention, again, repeating myself, that "women" are not a monolith. They. Are. People. Like. You. Just as you wouldn't try to get back at all men for a couple dudes being a dick to you, you shouldn't try to get back at all women for a few rejecting you.
>>27598742
Also, this whole "they started it" thing is absurd. Everyone's actions are a result of a chain of causality inextricably bound up with the history of the entire world. If a woman hurts you, chances are a man hurt her. If you hurt a woman, maybe a woman hurt you. It's still not an excuse not to break the chain.
>>27598828
No, actually normie society is a monolith that has wronged me. It doesn't matter which particular normie is a dick to you because of your inferiority. If you swapped him/her with another normie it would be the same.
Also you seem to be keen on talking about ugly chicks. But ugly chicks, fat chicks, disfigured chicks, handicapped chicks THEY ALL WANT CHAD.
>>27598876
Fucking bullshit. I don't give a shit what happened before. If someone wrongs me I don't give a shit why. To "break the chain" is beta behaviour. But it's obvious you normies try to train us inferiors into being beta faggots who let others shit on them, so they "break the chain".
Fuck you, disgusting normie sympathizer.
I...don't?
robobloxXx
>>27598896
Yeah, and you want Barbie. What's the difference?
>>27598918
Which is it? Am I a "normie" or a "beta?" Or both? Or just a normal human who is successful with women because he treats them like other normal humans and not objects? Who gets what you claim you want by not imbibing and regurgitating your hate and anger?
>>27598936
The difference is that the woman is still going to get the better part of the deal in the end.
Also you still didn't tell me why I shouldn't be angry that I have to work hard and compensate because of getting dealt a bad hand.
>>27598967
If you got these things, you got them because you were lucky in the first place. You're just-worlding really hard here, buddy-boyo.
>>27598994
You only have to "compensate" if you buy into the hierarchy that you disavow in the first place. Sure, if you want to get a girl with a high social value, you also should have a high social value. No one is telling you how to get that, for one thing. But secondly, there are plenty of girls at your level that you don't have to "compensate" to attain. You just ignore them because you think you deserve someone "better." Which "better" you describe, again, according to the same social system you decry.
>>27599018
You're plain wrong just because men and women have different standards.
>>27599007
irresistible pic opportunity
>>27599049
Yeah as if that disproves me. Fancy picture.
>>27599042
You're forgetting the part where this actually makes life easier for you because rather than meaning that that minuscule number of highly rated men get all the girls, it means that, as you cut off at the bottom, "Men and women perform a different sexual calculus." As in, fewer men can get girls by just being hot, and more have to actually have personality or skills or something. Why is this bad for ugly people?
>>27599042
Also, from experience, I would further argue that this just means more variance in women's preferences--individual women have much more distinct ideas of what they would consider the most attractive man than you would expect, which, again, favors a diversity of different male body types and facial structures much more than men do women.
>>27599042
I could be an 8-10 for one girl and a 6 for another. Very easily. Because womens' tastes are more dynamic than mens'.
>>27599081
That's bullshit. It's bad because even the men which are not ugly are considered ugly. And therefore the girls "at my level" aren't at my level. How is this not bad for me?
>>27599121
Where do you see it in that chart? Oh you don't, it's just your opinions.
>>27599007
I'm not going to say I've had no luck. I'm also not going to say that all of my luck has been good. It's a mix. But I've stayed positive and grown from both, and now I'm reaping the rewards.
>>27599144
>Because womens' tastes are more dynamic than mens'.
[citation needed]
>>27599162
I'm pretty sure I've read that article before, or one like it, and stuff like this comes up. Also, if you aren't familiar with how to use charts, you are supposed to try to extrapolate things from them. If you have experiences which can help give you ideas about what they can mean, those are useful. Both of my claims can be read very easily into that chart if you aren't being deliberately contrarian about it.
>>27599163
More Just World fallacy coming up!
>>27599183
http://thechart.blogs.cnn.com/2011/05/09/inside-womens-sexual-brains-preferences-and-porn/
>>27599188
>Both of my claims can be read very easily into that chart if you aren't being deliberately contrarian about it.
How? Be concrete.
>>27599197
I'm ignoring you when you say that because even you know it's the white flag you wave at logic.
>>27598193
My only standars is that the girl has to be interesting and thin/chubby and not have gum smile
I'd say those are pretty low standards but it's quite funny because most girls are fucking boring
>>27599209
Oh boy a blog on cnn website. Sure sounds credible.
>>27599222
It's really not. It's well known that people tend to attribute their success to their own decision and like to ignore the good hand they've been dealt. Like you're doing.
>>27599211
Why would women's preferences show most men averaging at a two and very few at a four, when we can assume from an evolutionary perspective that men and women produce attractive faces at relatively the same rate?
You could argue that this is because women universally rated most men low and a few high, or you could argue that this is because most women's preferences varied enough that each man was rated very high by only a few women and average by the others. Obviously some men were consistently rated more attractive, but since the graphs look so different between the genders, there is definitely some other effect going on, and I am calling preference.
Also, we don't know exactly what the numbers were supposed to represent. Generally, most women don't find even 7/10's particularly compelling to have sex with when they have a lot of options without other factors coming into play, so it is likely that many perfectly attractive men were compressed into lower categories because their attractiveness would not be their primary selling point to a woman. Again, this is good for the facially challenged.
I'm a very average dude and mostly go for women who are objectively beter looking than me. Thank god that women aren't as superficial as men. All it took to me to be able to get with cuties is getting good as socializing. I just wished I could go back to my teens and early twenties and explain to my younger self how this shit works.
>>27599183
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3444291/
>>27598615
I thought women wanted equality? That doesn't sound very equal.
>>27599284
>Why would women's preferences show most men averaging at a two and very few at a four, when we can assume from an evolutionary perspective that men and women produce attractive faces at relatively the same rate?
Because women have higher standards.
>you could argue that this is because most women's preferences varied enough that each man was rated very high by only a few women and average by the others
And this is good for me, subpar-man why?
>Generally, most women don't find even 7/10's particularly compelling to have sex with when they have a lot of options
Once again, how does that help me. A 3/10?
>>27599183
http://www.essex.ac.uk/events/event.aspx?e_id=8843
>>27598615
I've had too girls flat out ask me for sex, I sort of like sexually aggressive women but all these girls were massive sluts.
>>27599324
>I thought women wanted equality? That doesn't sound very equal.
Some girls do approach very directly but usually they quickly learn that that's not the best strategy.
The hints that most girls give are so obvious to the average guy that it is almost as though they screamed, "Hey, I like you!", into your ear.
>>27599328
If you can't logic out why this is helpful to you, we're done. You really are autistic.
>>27599354
Nice. Thanks for proving me right. Have a nice day.
>>27599346
>I've had too girls flat out ask me for sex, I sort of like sexually aggressive women but all these girls were massive sluts.
This. If your social enough, you'll sooner or later end up in a situation where a girl is literally grabbing your dick through your pants and ask if you want to go home with her. And I'm saying this as an average as fuck looking guy.
>>27599350
>>The hints that most girls give are so obvious to the average guy that it is almost as though they screamed, "Hey, I like you!", into your ear.
It's true, just replace 'average guy' with Normie.
I know because I act like a girl (I'm not a trap/tranny or anything).
>>27599350
Yeah, it's pretty well encapsulated by the dude who called women who asked him directly about sex "massive sluts" right above your post. <.<
>>27598300
THIS.
Speaking of it: Robots should die.
>>27598287
>is it too much to ask to get a girl just one point above you?
Yes. Even "Chads" have to date down, not up.
There are tons of studies to prove that even.
(Pic related).
Do you really want to imply you deserve better than a good catch/ chad?
>>27599429
I am
>>27599292
And like I said, I usually go for better looking girls. All it takes is being good with words and being part of a popular social circle.
>>27598522
Look how they tread us ex-robot"normies" when we genuinely try to help with our experiences.
Basically they fell great BECAUSE they "are miserable". It is all victim Olympics and excuses.
Basically robots are the male equivalent to feminists and headmate lunatics.
>>27598918
>Fuck you, disgusting normie sympathizer.
>beta behaviour
>obvious (...) normies
>being beta faggots
TOP KEK!
You deserve all your misery.
Oh, you deserve it!
Do you actually think that it's a good idea to get into a relationship with a girl that you just don't find attractive at all? I'm somewhere around 6-7, tall, not fat, good economic situation, with that much I could most likely be successful if I approached 4-5/10 girls, but what is the point of that? I don't think they are cute at all, I don't think they are hot at all, I'd probably have to think about other women to get hard for sex. What possible reason would I have to do this? Hell, even the girl would probably be less than happy about the arrangement at the end of the day.
Worse than that, I had 9/10s and 8/10s attracted to me in the not too distant past, it was just either my lack of knowledge about relationships or random circumstances that lead to none of them working out.
>>27599504
For not being okay with being treated like shit just for being unlucky?
>>27599550
Lol for clinging to that victim mindset through all of the logic in your path.
>>27599518
Don't involve yourself in something you don't feel. Play the field if you want. Hookups are all I want when I'm single anyway.
>>27599612
What would that be? Are people not commonly treated baddly even for things they can not change?
>>27599550
>"being treated like shit"
Others normally treat you like you treat them. Be the change in your life that YOU want to see.
>How to win friends and influence people.
>The 48 Laws of Power.
>"just for being unlucky?"
You aren't unlucky. You chose to be unlucky.
Social skills can be trained. A body formed. Material resources acquired. Mind healed.
>How to manage Depression/Anxiety with CBT for Dummies.
>Haow to make anyone like you/ fall in love with you.
>Working out.
>Epictetus' Enchiridion
>The way of the superior man
>No more Mr. Nice Guy.
>Meditation/ Prayer.
>>27599632
>even for things they can not change?
You CAN change.
And you know that.
You have CHOSEN your misery.
>>27599550
You can always end yourself.
Stay miserable.
Or ... CHANGE.
You have the power.
None else is responsible for your life.
>>27599659
This one gets it. Props!
>>27599690
Why should I have to work hard to change? I could have just been born a top Chad and have a good life because of that.
>>27599706
Omg kill yourself lazy piece of shit
>>27599712
Will you answer? Not wanting to work hard to compensate for things I did not choose is lazyness?
>>27599718
>I don't want to actually try and better myself
>I'm not lazy wtf are you on about?
Literally pathetic jesus christ dude you need a reality check
>>27599706
>I could have just been born a top Chad
Nope. Most Chads (excluding family wealth) worked as well towards their physique and social skills.
It doesn't come to you in your sleep.
You have to actively go for it.
And be willing to do so.
>>27599690
You do realize some of us have tried for years and years? You try to get up but life just slaps you back down in your computer chair telling you to know your place.
>>27599706
And then, he goes to a woman hate thread and posts about how much he hates them
The "Chad" is myth. Those guys just put effort in their appearance by working out and dressing properly. Sure, some people are prettier than others, but having a well toned body and a healthy mind is a huge step to romantic success
>>27599762
Me having to work hard for things others get easily is not fair.
>>27599782
Nope. Physique? Okay, but height and looks? fucking no. Also social skills are just a result of good looks. Look at halo effect.
>>27598193
>supposed
Nope.
Straw man.
Desiring something does not imply that you are making a claim to be entitled to or deserve it or that it is supposed to happen.
Everyone would like to win the lottery or be given a million dollars but that does not mean they think it is supposed to happen to them
>>27599782
>morals
Whoever made that image is a complete retard. This isn't really exclusive to normies, people in general have fantastically shit morals. They have no idea where they come from, and they don't really know the clear limits of them, vast majority of the time any one individuals' morals come from random shit they picked up along their life, mostly from socializing, TV and religion; and religious morals nowadays won't help you much in getting a woman either, ignoring how shit they are most of the time.
>>27599782
>Nope. Most Chads (excluding family wealth) worked as well towards their physique and social skills.
No, they didn't.
>>27599814
The success comes to them easily thanks to good starting position. Give by things out of their control.
>>27599818
>Also social skills are just a result of good looks.
This is what some people on here really think. hahaha
>>27599818
>complains about his shit life
>doesn't actively do anything to change it
Just because some people had ""better"" than others, it doesn't mean you can't accomplish it too.
Stop this mindless self pity shit and do something about your life
>>27599818
>Me having to work hard for things others get easily is not fair.
Lol that's literally life buddy you can complain all you want but what good is that going to do.
I know that if I don't study and try and get a decent degree that I'm way more screwed than the guy who doesn't revise at all but whose dad "knows people". That doesn't mean I should sit at home whining on 4chan.
>>27599819
How to internet 101: Call the opposing argument a strawman and you automatically win and every point you make is automatically correct.
>>27599838
Do you actually believe this?
""Chads"" can be poor, have shit families, shit lifes and still get a gf. The only thing that makes them different from you robots is that they don't wallow in self pity and cry to mommy everytime something bad happens to them
>>27599842
Never heard about halo effect have you? Attractive people are liked more, people want to spend more time with them. How could this NOT lead to having better social skills?
>>27599853
>it doesn't mean you can't accomplish it too.
It does. I can't change my height and facial bones. And even if I could through expensive surgery it doesn't undo the damage of growing up as inferior.
>>27599834
And you know this how random guy on r9k?
>>27599886
No the actualy difference is that even if they are poor, etc they have a big dick, are tall, good looking, you name it.
>>27599813
>You try to get up but life just slaps you back down in your computer chair telling you to know your place.
Usually (exceptions aside) you slam yourself back into it, in a relapse of self-loathing love for misery, despite there being solutions even for that.
And you know I am right!
Deep down you know.
>>27599818
>but height and looks?
Unless you have a a massively deformed face and/ or are around 1,50 m, neither matters, if you are in a good position in life, are somewhat fit or at least thin, confident, and in a somewhat popular circle of friends.
>>27599832
>This isn't really exclusive to normies, people in general have fantastically shit morals.
Thanks I guess?
Morals as in: Dedication, Discipline, and will to change!
Basically an Uebermensch mentality.
Not in the /pol/ but the actual Nietzschean way of it ...
>>27599834
>No, they didn't.
Yes, they did.
And deep down you know they did and you did not.
>>27599886
>>27599853
THIS!
And nowadays aside from books like >>27599659 there are SO great teaching resources online as well.
Who wants to change, can change.
>>27599899
Tbf you sound like a real negative nancy I probably woudnt wanna be friends with you
>>27599912
>Unless you have a a massively deformed face and/ or are around 1,50 m, neither matters, if you are in a good position in life, are somewhat fit or at least thin, confident, and in a somewhat popular circle of friends.
You still have to work much harder compared to people who got luckier.
>>27599922
Even if this is true why is that any reason to not want to better yourself?
>>27599885
It's not like he misused it though. There certainly are some people who think they are entitled to a hot woman, but vast majority doesn't expect her to just jump at them, not even here.
>>27599922
>You still have to work much harder compared to people who got luckier.
Yes. Your point being?
It still would be only ever so slightly more work, and is still very easily achievable if you are actually willing to change.
You just are not. You are lazy.
And that is the reason you are miserable.
And you know that very well.
You know it.
You can lie to us.
Not to yourself.
At least, not forever.
>>27599909
"Good-looking"
Lots of Chads are not A&F models anon, some of them are actually pretty bad looking.
The only difference is that they take care of themselves, and are generally nicer than most of you guys that already have the "" everybody hates me :((("" mentality
>>27599986
99999
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>>27598193
Those are not robots. Those are failed normies. A real robot would be happy with a 3/10 fat gf that loves him.
Women have always wanted to be fucked, but only by men from whom they expected the best pleasure in bed AND after their orgasms. The relationship with Men who provide only sex will last between a few minutes to a few months.
of course, women eventually get bored in bed with the same man, but NEVER with men who give them gifts and pay their bills.
because sex always never lasts is why it is better to be a provider for material goods, rather than for sex. The real relationship with women is when you give them money: they become free from the constraints of life. they are free to do what they want. It is called compassion.
The best relationship is when you give them money so that they agree that you make them cum. this is called kindness.
>>27599917
Typical normie. No arguments just social shaming.
>>27599934
Because it makes me angry. Angry at people who got luckier. And if I work hard to improve myself I will inevitably be helping them also. By being part of society.
>>27599959
Any change, any work I put towards is going to leave a very bitter aftertaste. Knowing I've been working hard for something that Chad gets just by breathing. It's extremely humiliating.
>>27599629
>Hookups are all I want when I'm single anyway.
you want to provide through sex for the rare unknown women who notice you and then dump you ?
>>27600030
>Because it makes me angry. Angry at people who got luckier
Hahaha holy shit. So do you actually admit that this is nothing more than an temper tantrum of someone that didn't get every social opportunity falling into his lap?
>>27600030
Excuses, excuses and nothing but excuses.
As expected, dude who chose his misery.
>And if I work hard to improve myself I will inevitably be helping them also. By being part of society.
Holy fucking shit. Even you cant be serious.
Srly. Pieces of shit like you should be euthanized.
>>27600030
>helping them also. By being part of society.
>Chad gets just by breathing.
LOL.
What an idiot you are.
Unbelievable ...
>>27600027
OUT, greedy cumdumpster.
>>27598193
low quality b8 but I'll bite...
>tons of hideous women out there who can't get a man
impossible because there are more men under 45 than women in every age group. (just google for statistics wherever you live)
the truth is what the OP pic says in >>27593809
>>27598300
r9k is not one person you idiot
>>27600062
Yes. My life is going to be worse. I am going to have to compensate and all this just because of luck. What reason is there not to be angry?
>>27600068
How about some arguments instead of just insults? I know my position is one that will get me hated by people, but does it not make sense?
>>27600077
See above.
>>27599429
based TL;DR is based... sauce of pic?
>>27599469
They never asked for your help. I'm a normie too but you don't see me go around being all self righteous and posting the same motivational crap thousands of people have spouted before me.
The truth is I made it through sheer luck and nothing else. Everything I have fell into my lap and now I'm happy, else I'd still be here being miserable. Changing and working on yourself to gain the approval of others is bullshit.
>>27600107
>all of this just because of luck
As I already said before, ""Chads"" do work out and are more aware of their appearance, having more friends and a gf is just a consequence of being well groomed.
So yeah, instead of crying like a baby and drown in your own tears of self pity, do something about your life
Even my friend, who was nicknamed "ball boy" through all middle school managed to lose his weight and get a gf
>>27599999
dem pents !!!!!! noice!
>>27600171
And if an inferior guy like me does these things he will get worse results.
Also ball boy, I bet he worked very hard to get to a position where many people are by default. Is he okay with that? And if he is, is he a fucking bitch or what? Because working hard to overcome things just to fit into society, that's beta behavior.
>>27600107
>How about some arguments instead of just insults?
Trying to make something out of the 80 something years we have on this earth is a much better goal than whining on 4chan and wallowing in self pity. Discuss.
>>27600027
those spots look fake as fuck tho
>>27600149
>I'm a normie
Real "normies" literally don't know r9k exists. The only reason you're here is because you're because you're at least a bit weird.
>>27600189
Nope, working hard to better yourself is not a beta attitude, is working hard to get better grades something betas would do?
He is very content with himself, because now not only he has a gf, but lots of friends and a steady life. And he only had to go to the gym and buy better clothes.
>>27600197
Accepting humiliation that comes with not being born a top-Chad is only something a beta bitch would do. Discuss.
>>27600228
It's ultimately meaningless either way
>>27600228
Yes it is. Unless you are the top Chad your life is going ot be humiliating. Having to work hard to for example get a girlfriend who would be dropping her panties immediately if you were taller, better looking etc. It's humiliating.
>>27600228
You must've spent a pretty short amount of time on 4chan to not have seen all the people from /fit/ complaining that they got fit and no one cares about them any more than before. It's primarily a personality issue for people here, though of course some [or many] also have bad looks.
>>27600269
no it's not because you can either be fit and lonely or a landwhale with multiple health issues
>>27600258
I think a beta bitch would look for any excuse not to try and be a decent human being. So they invent this "chad" character to point at whenever something goes wrong in their life.
They cant accept the fact that sometimes you have to work a bit harder to make up the difference in life because not everyone is born with in the same circumstances. They see it as humiliation because they think that this only applies to them when really everyone has their own problems.
>>27600269
>meaningless
Yet you still want a gf and a nice job
You want it, but you still consider meaningless the ways you have to achieve it ?
>>27600320
>They cant accept the fact that sometimes you have to work a bit harder to make up the difference in life because not everyone is born with in the same circumstances.
Exactly. I can't and don't want to accept this.
>They see it as humiliation because they think that this only applies to them when really everyone has their own problems.
Whether other people have it the same or not does not change if it's humiliating or not.
>>27600328
I don't want either of those things
>>27600272
>Unless you are the top Chad your life is going to be humiliating
No it won't? Stop blaming Chad for all your problems, stop blaming a strawman created to your own pandering and work like ""normies"" do to achieve a better social standing in life
>>27600332
>Exactly. I can't and don't want to accept this.
Bury your head in the sand then just know you're missing out. I hope you believe in an afterlife because I'd hate to feel like I wasted my only shot at happiness because of something so petty
Also why is wallowing in self pity better than trying to live life to the fullest you never responded to that
>>27598193
>Why do betas on r9k think that they're supposed to get a virgin supermodel girlfriend if they acknowledge that they're ugly and have no social skills?
>implying
I'm fairly normal/average according to /soc/. I also don't lack social skills. I've had tons of girls hit on me.
>There are tons of hideous women out there who can't get a man
Well I'm too good for someone I'd consider ugly frankly. You don't know what my standards are. Pretty much anything but what was posted in that Tinder-uglies thread is fine physically.
But girls are disloyal whores. I never show them that I think that, I've grown jaded. I try to not think that and they prove me right again and again.
Basically I can't "settle" because there's nothing to settle to. I've even tried girls who are fat (I can't deal with an ugly face but I can deal with EU-defined obese). Doesn't matter, still cheat/flirt on the side.
They never stop looking for someone else so how are you supposed to expect me to dedicate myself to them?
>>27600370
Happiness doesn't stick, that's ultimately why the things you do for it is meaningless
>>27600365
No I won't. I'm not going to get humiliated.
>>27600370
Missing out on working hard to get scraps of what Chads get. I'm just unable to ignore this humiliation. Whenever I try, it just doesn't work. I've tried obviously.
>>27600431
That's true, but having more friends and a gf, a nice job and whatever you can't obtain at life will give you more happy moments to enjoy
Also, feelings like sadness and anger don't stick forever too
>>27600370
>because of something so petty
>Justice
>petty
Anon if you were a woman under sharia law and you saw abstinence and political engagement as a less immediately satisfactory path and more of a 'just' path you'd pick the "girls just want to have fun" path? It's not a good example because women would get killed and stuff. But I think you get the point.
Being shoveled into a dissatisfying relationship is not happiness either way. So it's a choice between a small amount of happiness and no happiness but a sense of doing the right thing.
Also don't forget the pain involved in working towards being a good guy. I know there's plenty of fucking asshole Stacies who get with abusive guys because they're too dumb to try and go for robots. But that's their own damned fault and they should feel the consequences.
>>27600445
If you don't want any help, then what are you even doing here in this board?
Unless you are actually deformed, you can change most of your unnatractive attributes
You have the tools to change, but instead of using them you just stick them up in you ass and cry about it
>>27600502
>If you don't want any help, then what are you even doing here in this board?
Do you think this is /adv/?
>>27600502
Don't you understand? I can work hard but it's not going to make me happier. If anything it makes me even more miserable. Knowing I worked hard but still will be overstepped by someone who got lucky. Knowing that sometimes my hard work doesn't matter. How would this not make you bitter?
>>27600460
If you're normie that works.
If you're not, not much really works
>>27600460
>but having more friends and a gf, a nice job and whatever you can't obtain at life will give you more happy moments
Wow you sure sound like you've had a depression anon. And you "got out of it".
>>27599885
>gets called out on a strawman argument
>responds to that with another strawman
you can't make this sthit up
>>27600502
This isn't a self help board faggit.
>>27600554
Clinically diagnosed since I was 12
I don't see your point, all emotions are chemicals, and thus having the things you desire will grant you happiness
When I got the things I wanted, I felt 100% better about myself
>>27598356
>>27598399
>If you don't want an ugly girl friend, you are a hypocrite and delusional
If this is your way of 'BTFO" ing us, you're fucking wrong
>>27600592
I've always found that regardless, it comes back
>>27599429
>based on tinder data
Looks retarded without more information. Please post source.Not that furfag video. I'd like to see his source
>>27600027
>I feel stupid
She should feel stupid.
Women are fucking stupid if they think they're "in love" with someone who's abusing them.
They just want the genes. Get them and get out. Not that difficult roasties.
>>27600476
Except you're not a woman under sharia law. And it is petty to throw a temper tantrum because you weren't born exactly the way you would like to have been
>>27600785
Are you seriously not getting the analogy? There's (at least) perceived injustice. And the alternative is dealing with the situation and getting treated like shit. Which is exactly what happens. Women practically never settle. You can't even tell which it is because they all pretend they settle when they find "the one". "The one" is never you because the one is based on fiction. They're princesses waiting for their knight in shining armor for them and they're like "yeah that's cool you slayed the dragon and all, but your armor is dirty, look at how you're covered in blood, my knight would have covered himself in hydrophobic fabric spray". So they keep jumping between knights who get progressively less dirty. But what's never pointed out in the story is how incredibly vain she is and how she's done jack shit but "be a victim".
>because you weren't born exactly the way you would like to have been
No it's not even about that. I'm not disfigured. It's that I have to work to get what people otherwise get for free. Similar to a woman under sharia law she has to escape or change her situation. Choosing the change the situation is more of an egalitarian thing because if it was easy enough that I could just do it there wouldn't be these problems anymore.
It's absolutely insane to assume that this is OK, that you can expect men (in general actually) to deal with this bullshit. No, fuck ugly women, fuck all women. You're all fucking assholes by association and lack of trying. They're gonna have to come to me now and if that doesn't happen then just go die in a ditch. Literally kill yourselves, I don't care.
>>27598193
Everyone is attracted to beautiful people.
No one is attracted to ugly people.
Robots are no exception.
>>27600222
I'm here because I read this. http://bust.com/feminism/15551-mo-beta-blues.html
>>27598193
>There are tons of hideous women out there who can't get a man
Lol no there aren't, the 80-20 rule should be called 99-1 and it is in full effect these days
>>27600320
Dude this is what's up. You nailed it. Mic drop and walk away...
>>27603129
"They blame feminism and its encouragement of women to work outside the home, embrace sexual freedom, and reject patriarchial beauty standards for their lack of access to young, thin, submissive, virgin-supermodel wives"
That's hilarious.
I can't imagine how many morons actually believe the hyperbolic garbage posted on this board if someone was willing to put that up on their webpage.
>>27600258
lol because you would totally think I'm Chad nowadays. and now I have a girlfriend I love...it just took till I was almost 19 instead of 16 to figure the world out. where's the humiliation in that?
>>27600320
I explain my mentality in detail frequently and we argue and eventually people just stop or we "agree" (though they tend to show they're not understanding me well).
It's pretty frustrating, happened in this thread too. You run out of arguments and run away.
>>27600875
Dude, you're just angry and wrong. Sorry you feel this way; I hope someday you get the help you need. I recommend counseling.
>>27603343
Bait harder fembot.
>>27600875
>egalitarian
Obviously meant altruistic.
>>27603176
And what's so wrong about not wanting to accept injustice? I don't get that.
