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My psychologist doesn't even understand how someone could
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My psychologist doesn't even understand how someone could have no friends
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>2016 still going to your Jewsychologist
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>>27588146
>having a psychologist that somehow got thru years of school and doesnt even know one of the symptoms of autism.
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>>27588146
>psychologist that you should just adapt to the society, "YOU HAVE TO FIT IN YOU KNOW"
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>>27588340
tell you*
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>>27588340
How do you expect to fit in if you don't try to fit in?
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Psychologists and therapists have not been trained to rehabilitate. They don't know jack shit. They aren't even taught how to be sociable so that they can teach you that.
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>>27588146
He's a shitty psychologist then like most. Most of anything is shitty. Surprise, surprise! Finding a good psychologist may almost be as hard as finding a friend or a gf.
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>>27588415
How are you even supposed to try when you just panic when people are around you/in social situations
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>>27588146
>Psychology
>Therapy
>Psychiatry
>not normie pseudo-science
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Psychology is a worthless pseudoscience. They can't even replicate the results of most of their studies. Psychologists are the absolute bottom of the barrel, and psychiatrists are the worst of all psychologists.
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>>27588422
They told me go to a coffee shop and just start talking to someone. How the fuck am I meant to do that?
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>>27588544
They just give me good goy pills that don't even work
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>>27588146
A person is literally making $100k USD right now who is 105iq and literally too dumb by far for the job they are doing. This person will retire in twenty years having ruined hundreds of lives.

They won't realize the damage they've done and they will feel smug and self-assured in their apparent success.
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>>27588578
Psychologists aren't psychiatrists. No pills for you, goy.
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>>27588544
Results are hard to replicate when there are so many variables. And even harder when you don't actually know what half those variables are or how the thing you're trying to fix even works.
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>>27588556
Nobody does that. You should of told him to stop dicking around or you're getting a new psychiatrist
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>>27588544
this

they think they can understand mankind just by hearing someone talk
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>>27588510
You habituate yourself to being closer to those situations through moments of discomfort, rest.
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>>27588556
by just being yourself
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>>27588655
He mentioned psychiatrists in the post
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>>27588665
so what you mean is that the results are totally useless?
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>>27588510
I hate to oversimplify and trivialise it, but you get past the panic through practise. Life will be miserable suffering and you'll hate every moment you have to spend around normies but you only learn to deal with the panic through practise.
Eventually it won't bother you as much. You'll become numb to it.

I doubt you'll ever enjoy it. But you'll come to terms with it.
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>>27588739
How did you draw that conclusion?
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>>27588747
>practise
Surprise that a eurofag is this much of a flaming faggot
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>>27588556
Well the purpose of that is to get over your fears of talking to strangers. Not many people just casually start convos with strangers out of the blue, usually there's something there that presents the opportunity ( you both just finished the same test, you both are watching the same thing on a t.v. in the airport, etc...). This is all in service of trying to find someone you have shit in common with, I can almost guarantee you will not want to be friends with 90% of the people you talk to, but if you don't talk at all you have an absolute 0% chance of meeting someone you actually like
tl;Dr he's trying the dive in head first strategy
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>>27588785
>dive in head first strategy

That will sure work when I still get anxious even going outside. If this shit wasn't free, I wouldn't bother anymore
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>>27588772
>practise
Yes, yes. I fucked that up. I'm so sorry, anon. Can you ever forgive me.
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>>27588785
If most normies dont even have the balls to talk to complete strangers than how the fuck should I be able to do that?
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>>27588785
>he's trying the dive in head first strategy
Normies love that. Along with the tough love strategy.

It seems like the sort of thing where you need to already have a lot confidence to pull off. It would just destroy an anxious person.
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>>27588665
>>27588771
If you can't replicate results you can't know what the results mean. Making it useless.
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>>27588897
You can get the confidence if you be yourself
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I got called creepy by my therapist once because I told her I cant write emails without my moms help.
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>>27588826
You literally just have to do it there's no robot friendly answer you have to do it, feel horrible and like you're going to die and you have to do it every day until that feeling goes away.
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>>27588146
record him over the next few sessions and bring it up again

if he still gives shit advice make reports agaisnt him for being a dicompasisoante normiefuck

get normies out of psychology
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>>27588969
I'm sure people will enjoy being a approached by a sweating, stuttering dude with an expressionless face
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>>27588969
>go talk to random strangers every day at a coffee shop
>"Sir, we've had complaints that you are bothering other customers so we're going to have to ask you to leave and not come back"
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>>27588952
retarded would be more appropriate
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>>27588670
Rename this image now sir!

Luke Rockhold is not a Chad hes a cool person. In this picture he beat Chris Weidman who is the manifestation of High School jock. While Weidman was being a normie Luke was fighting anybody for pennies in a sport that was nowhere mainstream
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>>27588902
That's a bit foolish, anon. If it works, it works. Study the end result but don't just throw the whole thing out because you can't understand how it works right away.
You may not be able to understand it but you can't deny it did something.
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>>27588969
Sadly, this is the truth.

Life isn't this way for normies. Normies enjoy it. But for you it's going to be suffering. You don't fit but you're going to have to force yourself to fit and it's going to hurt. But it's either that or exclude yourself completely.
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>see a therapist
>can barely even talk to them about my problems out of embarrassment and fear
>therapy goes nowhere
>I keep paying for it because I have literally no one else I can talk to
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>>27589011
You don't have to go up to the first person you see and try and talk to them about Chinese Cartoons you dumbass
Go outside. With people outside. And sit there. Don't do anything. You'll feel like shit and like yore going to die and yeah it'll be hard but you do it. Then you can go back inside. Stay outside a little longer everyday. When you're up to a good amount of time without anxiety, go buy something at the store. Make yourself look like a stuttering autist, feel like shit. Buy it anyway. Go to a different store if it's that bad. Do it until you don't feel horrible about it. You won't ever not be apprehensive, you won't be able to fix it, but you might be able to mend it. You just have to accept that you're gonna have to feel like shit
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>>27588146

Did he died

>>27588544

Actually it's not. A lot of experiments cannot be done nowadays due to health and safety so it's all a softly softly approach and is just used to make money.
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>>27589055
They use to think blood letting worked because a few people got better when they tried.
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>>27588747
How can he practice if he doesn't have friends?
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>>27588592
did I hear you say L I T E R A L L Y
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>>27589052
Save it and do it yourself if anon won't, also provide some sources so we know he was a big guy
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>>27589125
That's a good point. Alright, it works as an experiment to find something better. But to try to do it on an actual person, without understanding what's going on, is dangerous and irresponsible.
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>>27589147
You make friends and then practise.
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I just practice by talking to people online

after years of typing instead of using a mic, whenever I used one I got scared shitless for no reason
who gives a shit, they're strangers, and it helped me un-develop my autism irl
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If you follow the "just talk to random people in public :)" meme you'll likely be maced by a feminist. No one does that in real life.
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>>27589094
>paying for a friend
How did it get to this.

I know there are helplines and shit but are there any free services like that where you talk to someone in person?
Would you talk to a free counsellor about your problems, if one was available? You would know they're just there to listen. They won't offer any helpful advice. And they will keep what you said confidential. Would you use that service?
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>>27589214
Literally just shoot the shit for like a second with a cashier
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>>27589214

I've been given this advice so many times. Who the fuck does this? How does it work for some people?
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>>27589251
you have to be exceptionally handsome
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Why doesn't someone from here take a psychology degree then start up a place that actually understands these problems?

All of these psychologists are normie Staceys or Chads who never had a problem communicating or being around others. They just learned there are people like this at 20 years old and have only just read about it.
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>>27589251
No, it does not. And sure as shit the psych has never had to do that themselves because they are privileged normalshits. Anyway best way to make friends is to join a group/club with similar interests as you.
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>>27589251

It works for women and Chads. It ends up with robots getting tased and becoming even bigger outcasts.
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>>27588146
Does that psychologist even know what autism is...?
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>>27588422
I'm going to a neurophyscologist so at least he can tell me how to live with my retardation with all his testing and shit
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>>27589360
They haven't even brought up the possibility of me having autism
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>>27588146
Is it male or female?
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>>27589237
I don't know. That just seems like screaming into the void, which is helpful sometimes, but I really want to get better and I don't know how. Having someone listen and just say "hmmm, that sucks" would just frustrate me.
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>>27589171
But how could he make friends if he have t practiced yet?
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I think a life coach is more important. Get a cute undergrad girl to follow you around and tell you how to do your taxes and say hi to people and shit.
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>>27589429
why would anyone do this for a robot

I can't even make a friend and I'm supposed to find a "cute undergrad girl life coach"
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>>27589356
We're all incompetent.
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>>27589410
You don't really have to try to make friends. Just put yourself out there, be yourself and they'll come soon enough.
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>>27588146
>no trigger discipline
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>>27589251
by being attractive
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>>27589485
you think this is a game? he pulled the trigger a second after the pic was taken.
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>>27589445
Get a notebook and start writing dialogue with an imaginary one. Eventually you'll be able to talk to her anywhere as she walks you through basic shit.
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>>27589429
>be cute girl
>first year of uni
>excited to be in a new place with new people
>sitting on a bench eating my sushi (yum!)
>some skinnyfat pale man comes up to me
>unwashed clothes and musty smell fills my nostrils as I chew on my food
>he stutters out "h-hey, c-could you t-teach me to b-b-be normal?"
>feel really scared because he seems like a school shooter or serial killer (I've seen lots on TV)
>say I'm too busy and get away so I can eat in peace
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>>27589540
ok, all I have to do to succeed is invent an imaginary person in my head to guide me through life and talk to them when I'm in trouble
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>>27589445

You pay for it, silly goose.
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>>27589485
that lil nigga got rekt a few seconds after that picture was taken
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>>27589540
>Hello, kawaii-chan
>Yes, I had a cute day too
>Oh kawaii-chan, you are the best, I love you so much
>I've never talked to a girl before, you smell so good
>I can touch you? That's great, lets go to my room and have sex
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>>27589552
way to crush hopes man
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>>27589356
Reasons why all robots can't do it:
>too dumb
>don't have every problem
>not good at talking to people
>would completely disregard the problems of any woman or attractive man

Special reasons exclusive to certain robots:
>would intentionally give wrong advice
>can't empathise with people who aren't them
>would definitely molest a patient
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>>27589560
Stop trying to pretend you're gonna succeed
You're trying to make it, not succeed
No one as hopelessly autistic as you is going to become Chad and have a million friends, you need to shoot for a couple friends with a fair bit of acquaintances
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>>27589560
Yes. You won't far with a sarcastic attitude
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>>27589606
if I can't figure out on my own how to make it, how is my imaginary friend going to figure it out for me??
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>>27589540
The road to schizophrenia and madness is paved with good intentions.
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>>27588531

Psychiatry is medicine though
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>>27589452
Just stand outside in the street or what do you mean?
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>>27589535
KiII yourseIf faggot
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>>27589560
This will teach you http://www.tulpa.info/creating-a-tulpa/
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>>27589622
I'm not trying to be rude, I just think that's a wild and unorthodox strategy
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>>27589606
We all gonna make it. No matter how autistic, sarcastic or retarded we may be.
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>>27589663
I just sat in a park one day and a few boys came up to me and started chatting after 10 minutes or so. It's not that hard :)
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Don't psychologists have to have a completely clean slate in relation to their own mental health? Just a bunch of fuckin' normies is what they are.
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>psychologist

You went to the ultimate normie for help. What were you thinking?
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>>27589639
Using your imagination doesn't cause schizophrenia. That's a degenerative disorder caused by genetics.
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>>27589704
My doctor referred me to him
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>>27589690
Were you an attractive girl wearing a tight, low-cut shirt?
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>>27589696
>>27589704
Most of them get interested in psychology because theres something wrong with them and they want to know more about it. Lots of psychologists have aspergers.
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>there's counseling and support and community for normies that drink too much
>there's nothing for people that are painfully lonely

Why?
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>>27589668
You want someone to help you and love you unconditionally? They're going to come from one place.
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>>27589782
I don't love myself, I don't even like myself, how's a figment of my brain going to love me
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>>27589755

Because alcoholism affects normies. Loneliness doesn't so it receives little attention or treatment.
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>>27589804
Imagine yourself as someone worthy of love in your internal world. An innocent little kid who doesn't know anything, etc.
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feel when no psychologist gf
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>>27588199

>Jewsychologist
>not psycholojew
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>>27589755
you ever tried to get a bunch of cripplingly lonely people in a room together? not as easy as getting a bunch of drunks to get together.
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Welcome to normalfags, anon. They live in such a drastically different reality from ours that talking to them is absolutely pointless. Everything about us is incredibly alien to them.
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>>27589909
That sounds horrible. I would always be insecure and manually think about everything i say and do.
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>>27589956
If I told a psychologist that I'm a 32 year old virgin who never hugged, kissed, or held hands with a girl, and of course never had a gf, and who additionally hasn't had a friend in ten years, their head would probably implode.

There's no research on how to handle us. Every treatment assumes some kind of social life that can be expanded, and all the advice on how to make friends and so on is only applicable to young people (join some club, meet people in university, go to after class activities).

I almost want to try it to see what they would say.
>"B-be yourself????"
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>>27588146
people on /r9k/ are like this too though

>really? you don't have a SINGLE friend? I find that hard to believe

it's the truth why would I lie
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>>27589909
>Hm, anon, you hesitated slightly when putting it in during our sex today. Are you doubting our relationship?
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>>27589018
Haha, that reminds me:
>scared of eye contact
>one day decide to practice it in a mall
>buy lunch, finish meal, set timer to 20mins
>just sit still and look at other people sitting around/walking by
>stare at qt brown stacy sitting across from me
>she shifts her gaze nervously, starts messing with her phone
>I also look away to avoid seeming creepy
>trying to not give her too much attention anyway
>but I made her nervous... feel powerful
>look back eventually
>see her pointing her phone at me
>OH SHIT, what do?
>hesitate a wink in her direction then look away again
>see her reaction in my peripheral vision, she got jumpy
>at this point I'm too nervous to stare at her or anyone else, just give cursory looks and stare at furniture while she leaves

>20min pass, high on adrenaline
>decide to take it one step further there and then
>go to second floor on escalator
>stand by a ledge with book in hand, stare at everyone coming up on the escalator
>security guard joins me
>doesn't say anything, just stands there beside me
>FFFFF-
>eventually gets switched off by ANOTHER guard, who thankfully leaves with a woman soon thereafter
I stopped practicing eye contact that same day
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>>27590296
>Perhaps you are still conflicted about your relationship with your mother. Were you ever touched inappropriately as a child?
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>>27590327
You don't practice eye contact with random people in a public place, especially a mall. They'll think your picking targets for a rampage or rape.
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>>27589596
kek, thank you
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>>27590327
The security guard just wanted to talk, anon. He would have told you about the other chad guard who left with the woman.
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I haven't had friends in years, I fucking wish I had the social skills to have friends.

Just the idea of having people who actually like you and care about you and can organise to do stuff with and have adventures seem so far away from where I am.
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>>27590375
That's what makes it so arousing though. You should try it once for shits and giggles.
>>27590389
Bro...
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>>27588451
most underrated post ITT
it takes a lot of work to find a good psychologist, don't be surprised if you get a shitty one
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>>27588146
Psychologists are fucking worthless as therapists, especially female ones.
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