I've never had friends so I wouldn't know.
Share screencaps pls
>>27565009
Being gay and pro Bernie sanders probably
>>27565009
They act retarded and pretend to be friendly. I'm serious it's all one big passive aggressive stunt for secret seasons.
>>27565009
Probably all the hip wild shenanigans they get into with their bro and slut friends
shitty memes, sex, partying, complaining about problems caused by too much partying
>>27565063
No that's what "nice guys" do to try and manipulate women into sex
>>27565009
they plot schemes to keep us robot kind down.
Atlantis was a ancient robot colony with mechas and waifus but Chad gods tore it down.
WE WUZ KANGZ
#RobotLivesMatter
They talk about the game they're playing together during the call (Dota, League, WoW), about when they're gonna go to the card shop later for FNM, memes (damn daniel), school, anti-feminist and atheist shit.
It gets so stale, I just want a qt to save me from them
>>27565009
Guys try to talk to girls and get them to sleep with them and usually fail pathetically while the girls laugh at all the stupid shit the guys send them.
Guys also try to 1-up other guys constantly, or send stupid normie memes and snapchats to each other for attention or whatever. It's either a social brawl or a total circlejerk.
It's a fucking shitshow, incredibly unpleasant. I wish people would socialize more in person again.
>>27565264
Unfortunately socializing in person is basically the same, just not as blatantly obvious
>>27565320
>>27565264
its only like that if there is a girl in the call, if there isn't its usually quiet till someone makes a joke or shares a story
>>27565320
I much prefer seeing people in person, everything via text is so stupidly fucking ambiguous and disingenuous, it's a god damn puzzle.
At least in person I can see a facial expression with whatever stupid shit they're spouting to tell if they're being serious or not.
I have no idea. I've never really had conversations outside of school. And in school it was always something related to school or some conversation that started out being about school. Most of it was just chatter to waste time. That bores me too much.
Tbh I think I just want conversations with someone I can share most things with. I project that as >tfw no gf but a friend would be just as nice.
The reason I think a gf would be good for that is because unlike friends gfs don't generally come in groups. So there's less pressure. You can break up without it being a major thing. But if you have problems with a friend/friends in a group you have major problems.
i only use it to shitpost tbqh
>>27565346
This literally disgusting, it feels so shit that I can't even use voice chat while playing a game of choice. (as in guild ts or something).
For the love of God you literal cucks, just try to ignore that I have a pussy FOR ONCE. I get so violent whenever kids try to hit on me through videogames. I mostly pretend to be a guy until circumstances require it that I reveal I am female.
If the conversation involves a girl, stupid boring shit that no one cares about but puts up with to get some pussy.
>>27565504
Why the fuck are you telling this to us? Go tell the thirsty normie faggots who think they can have sex through a TCP/IP connection.
I just want to play my game you stupid woman.
>>27565504
yeah we kick guys that do that from our calls, our unspoken rules are no one in a relationship and no trying to get in anyones pants during the call
if anyone starts hitting on a girl, or starts talking about their significant other they get muted kicked and only reinvited if they apologize
sometimes they act gay towards eachother but I cant tell if theyre serious or not so I dont kick em but Iunno it smells fishy
>>27565555
Nice Quads, I actually was just ranting about it. There are not that many people in this world ready for THE TRUTH. Tho desu, I have met some guys who just wanted to play their game, which was fun, because I too just wanted to play my game (needless to say we got along pretty fine and it was dandy and respectful).
I am sorry senpai, I think I was triggered.
>>27565586
>sometimes they act gay towards each other
RUN AWAY. Oh wow, it's the "I can't get girls I wish I was homossexual so I could date one of my best friends who would totally suck my dick like I want it to be sucked!" shit mentality. Really, that sounds so dumb. I'd ban that too if I were you, sounds filthy.
they upload pictures of some party they went to. complain about stuff like work.
>>27565661
eh I dont think theyre THAT serious about it, like when we meet up irl the one that initiates it usually does it to tick the other off or make them uncomfortable
I did play chicken with the fucker once so he doesnt do it to me but I doubt thats the mentality they have when they do it
>>27565610
>I'm a girl but its not a big deal, I don't mention it while online or gaming (girlgamer here)
>irony
Go to /b/ or /soc/ or something and get your positive attention from normies and 13 year olds.
this is an uphill battle that you'll never win
>>27565009
I would like to know that too. I've tried browsing sites like tumbler and normiebook but they are all filled with le modern normie layout, random and dumb normie memes and meme conversations.
>>27565729
Goddamn it Marissa you thick cunt. When did I sperg out into #GAMERGIRL anyway? Why don't you fuck off to /b/. Your face is an uphill battle you'll never win.
>>27565699
Hm, yeah, I guess some dudes do find it "funny" in a weird way, I mean, maybe one of them is actually gay though. You know what I mean?
>>27565802
We tell him that ALL the time, he just says hes asexual and that he does it cause it bothers us
he does it to everyone even the openly gay dude, I like using him to annoy the others sometimes tho
>>27565504
>it feels so shit that I can't even use voice chat while playing a game of choice.
I have a shit voice. Not deep enough. People mock me for not using VOIP then mock me for using VOIP.
It's terrible.
My brother is pretty Chaddy and plays almost exclusively with girls. He does the exact same shit when it's just the two of us and 3 girls in Dota. I'm sitting there sweating my ass off because I feel that's inappropriate but they all laugh and shit.
I mean seriously, whenever a girl joins he's like
>ayy girl tits or gtfo
It never ends. It happens over and over.
Sometimes they answer "yeah sure, check skype"
I ask him in private later but he's acting all secretive about it.
>>27565661
>Really, that sounds so dumb.
Ok so:
>Have friends of same sex you like a lot
>Have no contact with opposite sex people that you like/have no contact with opposite sex
>Relate better in every way and is biologically compatible when it comes to needs etc
Yeah if everyone were gay I'd much rather be gay. Probably would rather be gay even if I was the only hetero guy on earth.
>but you'd have all the opportunities
It's like having massive amounts of wealth and going to some place where people don't. They're not trying to get to you they're trying to get to your money.
>>27565852
Your brother sounds like literal cancer Celia. I've yet to meet someone ballsy enough to literally tell me "tits or gtfo", but I have met guys disgusting enough to make me change guilds. I think, personally, since you brought up the voice issues, one of things that really trigger me are the guys who do this whole act and shebang over the fact that I have a "pretty voice". I mean, it makes me feel so scared of talking again really, I just stop frequenting the goddamn voice chat after that type of event.
Also, your brother seems to be meeting some subhuman game girls anyway, I wouldn't be too worried about him actually finding a good girl/a better girl than you will.
>>27565846
Yeah, uh, I don't think he's asexual, pretty sure he's gay, but you know lol, let him be I guess.
Not much really. They just talk about shit thats happened to them recently.
>>27565960
everyones sure hes gay, if he wasnt a greasy fuck all the time, wore something other than fucking disgusting sweat pants and mlp shirts, and shaved his pube beard I'd probably try and get him to be my bf since his personality is cute
>They talk about the news and share selfies. Typical normal far stufd
>>27565917
Ok, maybe you misunderstood why I find it dumb. I understand the "reason" for "wanting to be gay". But ultimately, it only really comes to be if you're either only falling for stacies who always shit all over your feelings or you really only desire 10/10 girls who ignore you.
And hey, I'll be quite honest with you, I too find most girls kind of boring, but, BUT, at the very fucking least, they aren't try hards or they won't lie to seem cool, among other things. I am bisexual, and, I understand the woes of wanting to date a woman and all, but, really, I think this desire to have your dick respond to your own gender as opposed to being who you are is so fucking weird and disgusting.
>>27565960
>pretty voice
Well it's hard not to notice it. You're so rare in general and female voices are really nice. They have to be outright terrible to not be nice. So super squeaky or super deep. Even super deep isn't that bad because it's more like "normal" than anything else.
I've had urges to say that shit I had to pull back on. It's hard not to. We're made this way. We give women stuff and compliment women. It's stupid but it's the case. White knighting is a thing for this reason. It's a natural response which makes much much less sense online. It takes rationalization to beat it.
>>27566016
I know the feeling Craig, I really, really do know the feeling. I have met so many guys (and girls) with incredibly cute personalities or who are otherwise interesting who just... Really.
How hard can it be to put some minimum effort into the way you present yourself? It surely can't be that hard.
>>27566112
I KNOW
holy shit man look at yourself in the mirror, check if your hair looks greasy and at LEAST run water over it if not fully washing that shit and FOR FUCKS SAKE smell yourself
Apply deodorant DAILY, brush your teeth DAILY, and dress like you're going out with FRIENDS not going to a fucking construction site
>>27565009
Dragging their whole families into shit that isn't their business.
I have talked with normies before and basically just ask each other pointless questions for the sake of it to talk, gossip about other people or try and ask for advice. I used to think I didn't know how to socialise but I realised all you have to do is ask random questions like "hey bro how bigs ur dick lolz xD"
>>27566082
Well, you have a fair point, I probably shouldn't be as hard on them... I guess I too can rationalize it and kinda beat it myself. Though, to be quite honest with you, it sometimes reaches some massive proportions of stalking and general orbiting, and, when it comes anywhere near the point of men wanting to orbit me I just disappear because it disgusts me. I mean, I understand that this is r9k and the lore states that all women desire orbiters and such, but, all in all, orbiters give me cancer. Really, they actively try to lower themselves to such lengths that it is so incredibly unnatractive, what's worse is that they actually might have been reasonably attractive men before sperging out into the whole "give gifts and compliment women" behaviour.
Besides, it's one thing to compliment in a sincere and pleasant way, it's another to be creepy about it, there's arguably a lot of nuance to the interaction had in these kind of places that most guys seem to not notice. I think they also forget that they are talking to someone through voice only and online and that they might be misinterpreted.
And yeah, I don't blame the guys for noticing my voice, I guess I blame the ones that do this whole scene of "user has joined ch",
>OH WOW, WHO IS THIS TALKING? Oh wow!
>Uhm, hi, I'm just telling people what we're going to be doing today... I'm new here...
>OH UH, SORRY NAH, JUST KEEP TALKING.
>I continue talking
>Conversation is over
>OH WOW, SORRY I JUST, WOW, YOUR VOICE
>Ahahaha, that's fine, don't worry about it ahahaha!
>Seething with wrath
>>27566064
>I think this desire to have your dick respond to your own gender as opposed to being who you are is so fucking weird and disgusting.
>I understand the reasons
Angela I'm pretty sure these two statements don't fit together. It sounds like homophobia desu. But you're bi so that doesn't make sense.
Also it's more of a rationalization than something like gender dysmorphia. It's not like I'm thinking I wanna be gay all the time it's just that when the idea pops into my head that's what makes sense.
>you're either only falling for stacies
No not really. I'm not falling for stacies at all. I just can't talk to girls well. The last girl I had a crush on was a girl with serious walking issues (don't know what it's called, she angles her feet inwards and pretty much only walks on her), was light red ginger with short frilly hair, no cute freckles.. I could go on but she's not conventionally attractive. I really liked her though because she's one of the few women (aside from mom and professors) I've been able to talk to about just about anything and we can have a discussion without them expressing that they're judging me for what I say. But that was at 15. I haven't had anyone I cared much for since.
I don't see why you can claim it's Stacies if you now the issues.
>>27566177
You know what, they probably have some form of mild autism or whatever Cecil-san. I genuinely can't explain it being so seemingly hard to do the things you just described without having some sort of executive function impairment. Really.
It's frustrating, but understandable to a certain degree. Sometimes I really wish some of my male friends would just allow me to dress them (some have actually asked me to help them out with shopping, funnily enough, I was both surprised and unsurprised at the gigantic difference that being well dressed can make).
Really, if you are female you can at the very least do what I just talked about and be the cool female friend who wants to help him getting laid and so on (seems to be one of my biggest obligations as the friend of one too many nerds). But, truthfully, even if you are male, I'm sure you can find a way to convince him to go out shopping with you.
blackpeople-r-watchamacallit
add me :33 i just want to talk to some peeps ;3 i also play Warframe, Roblox and i like watching anime such as one piece
also im bi :)))
here's a pic of me to intrigue your interest
>>27566325
>Angela I'm pretty sure these two statements don't fit together.
I understand your confusion here Minnie, but, it was more along the lines of wanting to... Be something you're not and the whole idealization of being homossexual, which isn't really all that grand, you know what I mean? I guess that's it, it feels like some sort of weird idealization and objectification of what being gay is like...
>I just can't talk to girls well.
Well, my advice here is to try to do it always with the thought in your mind that she's going to be mean etc. It's a technique that works really well for issues like social anxiety, to just simulate the situation in your head and keep it present during the interaction that "anything can happen, and that's ok". You know what I'm getting at her?
Also, she sounds pretty cute (the redhead), I wouldn't call her exactly unnactrive, she sounds very attractive. But, all in all, it can be the case that even without falling for Stacies like a dumbass everytime, you can actually just not be meeting the right girls.
Which obviously can also happen, I am empathetic with you, I can actually relate to not having met any good girls ever since I was relatively young.
>>27566337
Im a guy, but no he just doesnt care, like hes content with his daily going to work, coming home, using his computer then going to sleep routine and doesnt care how he looks
he wont go shopping with me cause he "doesn't need new clothes", and if he did start cleaning up he probably wouldnt be interested in me anyway since im a judgmental jerk
>>27566552
Fuck Glenda, you got me all teary and shit. That is actually a rather sad situation, all the more sad because of how likely it is that he would end up never going for you anyway (by the looks of things). But you know... We can't all have all we want and so on, life's gotta have a little emotional suffering spice.
You'll find someone just right for you someday Glenda, it will be OK desu. I have faith in you.
>>27566609
no I wont, dont patronize me
I am bearly a 6/10, my most noticeable feature is my hair and while many people irl give me compliments on here I'm usually made fun of because of it, I don't have any real hobbys and I am pretty much a neet
shit sucks
>>27566249
>men wanting to orbit me
Just how do you notice this? Are they excessive in asking what you're gonna be playing or when to hang out? I couldn't even ask my (redhead) crush to walk home with me regularly in secondary school after having so asking to hang out directly is just crazy.
>women desire orbiters and such
Well yeah it's lore. But most of /r9k/ that have actual problems would consider it a major problem to have people going after you in any way.
>it feels like some sort of weird idealization and objectification of what being gay is like
Yes it's certainly a "grass is greener" kind of thing. I live in Sweden though so gay has been accepted for quite a while now. And with recent PC/SJW developments it's regarded as a positive status thing among the general population.
It's pretty ridiculous how ameriboo we are. They're talking about issues that simply don't exist here most of the time.
>>27566679
Eh, you probably will, I have a shitton of friends who only really had their first girlfriend after they turned 30 and they are still incredibly happy and healthy, you will make it. As much as everything seems to be rather hopeless and pointless.
Really, I know all about how things can seem and feel way worse than they actually are. I'm sorry for patronizing you, I know it can be really revolting to be talked to like this, but I do believe that most people in here are just going through a bit of an emotional and psychological rut.
All in all, I could tell you that you will never find anyone (which is unlikely) or I could express muh hopes and aspirations and just tell you that I wish you a good life full of the things you desire.
I know it can come off as smug and condescending but I'd still like to express that I have hope for you. You sound awfully nice Fuller-san, despite the obvious edge.
>>27565498
Omg, who the hell puts their Facebook pic as an anime picture.
I don't have a Facebook anymore, but ik enough normie rules to not do something as fucking stupid as that.
>>27566774
Why would you give a shit about "normie rules"?
>>27566453
Yeah I guess she does sound physically attractive with that description. But you have to assume the worst. I don't think there's anyone who really would consider her attractive. She's not bad enough that I'd hold it against her in any way. In that respect how she was walking was the worst. It's most accurately compared to how many people act like when they're zombies. Except she's obviously keeping a normal walking phase. So that looks really weird. But since she was just so great that doesn't matter at all. Not gonna post a picture becasue I respect her more than that. She doesn't have a single photo online that's not posted by someone else on FB. So it's pretty clear. She draws herself and her situation in mspaint and posts that like once a year. It's the exact kind of things I like about her.
>Well, my advice here is to try to do it always with the thought in your mind that she's going to be mean etc.
I've thought about doing that. It makes sense when at home but when I go out it just turns into fear.
>how are other people seeing me right now is my hair weird, did I shave well. I'm not making a funny face I hope.
>do I look like a serialkiller/rapist/pedo/weirdo
>shouldn't look over at those kids playing
>ok don't make eyecontact with anyone, you're distracted by typing a text on your phone
>put on hearphones so people can think you can't hear them
etc.
>You know what I'm getting at her?
Definitively. But in the past when I had to deal with doing speeches infront of class and such things I experienced dissociation. I still do that. My problem is that I don't want to live that way. It's not that I couldn't go outside and do normal things it's that my pulse would be up at 200bpm and I'd probably faint eventually. It's not a life worth living. So currently in queue for group therapy. Hopefully that will help.
>>27566679
>I'm barely above average
This is a problem?
>I don't have any real hobbys
They're not hard to get Erica.
>>27566759
I've had the same problem since highschool dude, I am very judgmental and usually end up offending people
>>27566804
yes it is a problem, no one wants the "hes okay" kind of guy they want the "he looks so good" guy
and no I've tried to get into music and art, but they bore me to death and I hate physical activities. I am very picky and thats what drives people away.
I dunno I just cant seem to find someone that genuinely likes me
>>27565009
I screen capped one of my conversations on skype.
Normie cousins with their friends
>>27565009
In the groups I am is mostly:
Normie Memes
Porn
Banter
Sports
When to meet up
Sex
And sometimes politics, but most of them don't know shit about that.
>>27566756
>Just how do you notice this?
I'm talking about online interactions here, so, a man who wants to orbit you online is often overbearing and tries to engage in conversation despite having nothing of worth to say, on the milder spectrum of things, that is. On the extreme side of it, some men will effectively offer to pay for things and try to offer you items in MMORPGs (despite me being higher level than most and already having end gear... I've seen guys trying to offer me random crap anyway, I don't get why they do it).
Regarding asking a girl to walk home with you, just try it. Really, you should just ask her if she wants to and see how it goes. If it doesn't work out then... Yeah, that's it, it didn't work out, you probably need to learn to deal with rejection and the overall fatality of human interaction.
>Well yeah it's lore.
It really is, though there are some camwhores who leak onto r9k who will make it seem like girls actually want orbiters, which is fucking disgusting.
>I live in Sweden though
Well, I understand how it sounds appealing to be gay, but, what I gather from the information that you're from Sweden is actually that swedish girl are supposed to be rather open minded and comfortable with giving most guys a chance. You should definitely try it sometime and learn to fear nothing.
>>27566804
You seem to suffer from an actual anxiety disorder, so, all in all senpai, you will benefit from the group therapy sessions a lot, really a lot. Also, you might benefit from trying out an SSRI anti-depressant, they work wonders for me, I have some of these issues and I take a really small dosage of Paroxetine. It does wonders, works like a charm. You'll make it somehow.
>>27566876
Yeah, I think the issue here is that men who are very judgemental end up being really down there in terms of attractiveness, even if you're above average in looks, having a picky personality can really turn people off to you.
>>27567095
Yeah, the only reason I'm so uppity about people I like is cause I'm a huge romantic
I cant help it
>>27567161
You'll be able to find a way, just that you'll have to learn to deal with rejection.Which can actually be pretty fucking horrible, but it's manageable.
>>27567301
I can deal with rejection, but when I actually find someone I genuinely like AND they reject me its like being stabbed
but I like that feeling for some reason
the hard part is finding someone I like that likes me back, its usually one sided which sucks
>>27567095
>You seem to suffer from an actual anxiety disorder
Yes diagnosed social phobia, severe depression and ADHD (ADD) here and I'm in queue for CBT and using a SSRI (sertralin) (has a mild effect despite max dosage). So I'm currently dealing with bigger issues but I was socially active until a year ago or so. I find it concerning how I can't find a girl I like at all as much as someone I met 8 years ago. I mean she was 15. Dating her as a 15 year old would be fine honestly. Even with the age gap. We were both rather mature. The gap between her as a 15 year old and everyone else is just so large. It's so strange.
>Swedish girls are supposed to be rather open minded
Yeah they are, no doubt. It's hard to relate to a lot of things here on /r9k/ about people being mean. At worst you're given subtle signs that they consider themselves to be harmed by interacting with you. Which is somewhat understandable. The girl who did it to me is literally a model and she still smiled at me regularly and didn't act rudely when we had to interact or anything. It's her job to have social appeal, still added me on FB. I can't say I've met a girl personally which I've thought "what an awful person". Same goes for guys with a few exceptions, most are excusable in some way.
But standards are high in my experience. And getting in contact with people is very hard. People open up much slower. So there's more effort with each person you meet and being a guy you really have to work to see if they're interested or not. Generally.
>Regarding asking a girl to walk home with you, just try it. Really, you should just ask her if she wants to and see how it goes.
Yeah that was way back. I think I'd manage now. I regret it a lot. Probably wouldn't be in my situation if we had been hanging out more outside of school.
>>27565371
>everything via text is so stupidly fucking ambiguous and disingenuous
Anon what are you doing on 4chan don't you have work or something Lol? Anyways, I'm just enjoying this stout craft beer on my paid vacation. We should really get together sometime!
>>27567442
>>27567095
Also thanks for insight on orbiters. But I know that many people find silence to be awkward. You sure you're not misinterpreting it?
>>27567629
Yeah, I'm not, I was actually referring to men specifically coming to chat with me, one on one, through text. It's not like we were in silence and they were trying to say random things to ease the perceived suffering,
>>27567442
Hey, there's no need to regret what has been done and can't be changed, you will have to change it up to meet your current circumstances, and, about everything else... I'm sorry about the shitton of issues you have, but luckily for you, they are issues that modern medicine can address rather appropriately, so it won't be that bad once you find you way out. Trust me.
Also, yeah, I can see how the swedish would actually require more effort put into their relationships, seen as how they are just overtly friendly to nearly anyone. I guess it's an entirely different way to be really, and a very specific one to Sweden too, you kinda have to play for the game you're in.On the topic on norman conversations though, I have an actual ASD and I can not, for the life in me, chit chat or feign interesting, interacting with women has proven hellish for the most part. But, even still, there are women out there who are really nice and who I can have conversations I'm interested in. This might also play a factor in the way I feel about men trying to chit chat with me and so on.
>>27568126
>through text
That sounds incredibly awkward.
>there's no need to regret what has been done and can't be changed
Yeah I know. It's just that I can't help but think of how things could have been. I honestly would like to seek her out when I'm OK again. Even just to be friends.
>you kinda have to play for the game you're in.
Yeah. But it's a lot harder when virtually any tips you find are UK/US based.
Would you share contact with me Kevin? So I can have someone to talk to? Because my upcoming group therapy will be guys only (it's not decided but most likely). I have a short list of dudes who'd talk to me (native and non-native) but no girls. I think that if I don't deal with this quickly I fear I'l never get out of it or my age will start to be a problem. I don't really care what woman I'd talk to but I need someone. Since it's where I have the largest problems by far. Right now I can't even think of opening VOIP conversation with anyone without sweating profusely I even found one of the guys who are gonna be in the group here on 4chan (more likely than you'd expect). But I can't talk to him, he invited me to play MMO's with his friends and I just can't do that. So we wouldn't be talking for at least a couple months if not a year, don't know how quick this process will be.
[email protected]
Have to sleep now though. It's 3AM and I have to go out tomorrow so I need all the sleep I can get. If you have a reply I'd appreciate a copy via email, but I'l probably catch the archive. Have a good evening.About ASD I'd consider that a plus because it's a lot easier to talk to people I know are weird. My older sister has ASD too, she's extreme in my opinion. Not sure you're that far gone. I'm just saying this because I feel that if I were to talk to girls my sister would be the kind that I'd have an easy time with to start. Normal girls are easy to find.
>>27568553
I'll save your throwaway and send you an e-mail later on then, I actually understand what you mean about not being able to play MMOs with someone's friends, specifically when I just know it's going to be the previously described shitfest that it usually is.
Sleep tight Eugenia, stay comfy.
>>27565009
Im in some normie groups in whatsapp. 3/4 it is about parties. "did you go to this party?" "will you go to that one?" And whenever they are finally at a party they text all the time that they cant find each other
