Look how much the normies care about us! They're having a suicide prevention walk! This will totally accomplish something other than being a massive self-congratulatory normie circlejerk where they all pat themselves on the back for being such great, caring people! I feel better already!
Not everybody is a lost case. Suicide prevention might be helpful for those who are destined to be successful.
Lel, I go to UH. Maybe I'll go to their fucking walk and an hero in front of them. That'll show 'em.
What would you propose be done about it then? What's a better idea? Don't you dare fucking say "give me a girlfriend".
>>27563836
Haha is the walk near campus? I've been to UH campus and it's like in the middle of ghetto ass third Ward or something. Scary ass area
>>27563949
How is that a invalid statement?
>>27563949
You literally can't prevent people from committing suicide. That would require total societal reform eliminating alienation, outcasts, the concepts of beauty and ugliness, popularity, success, and so on. It would require finding actual cures to mental disorders instead of throwing meds at them in the hopes that one will work. Suicide will always be a thing. You can make "treatment" more available, but that doesn't help much when that treatment is inherently flawed. Ever call a suicide hotline? Their only job is to keep you on the phone long enough for the cops to show up and take you to a mental hospital. You'll stay there for a week, they'll pump you full of meds and set you loose. Then you're back to square one. Brilliant, right?
>>27564056
>How is that a invalid statement?
It isn't, just women don't want to have to give anything in return for everything they receive from beta males.
>>27564145
This, 100%.
Off my back, robot.
>>27564056
Life is important but someone's not going to go out of their way to be with someone they can't stand to ensure you don't off yourself. That's unrealistic.
I mean, I know I wouldn't want to date a 2/10 femanon or landwhale just so she wouldn't kill herself. It's only reasonable not to expect the same thing.
>>27564013
I would hope not, like you said the area right outside of the campus is full of nogs that I'd rather not get too close to.
>>27564145
That's a red herring. Nobody is arguing for the need of a 100% cure.
>>27564221
It doesn't matter how realistic it is. The fact is that it would work and is a valid statement.
>>27563582
At least they're doing something. Christ, if this isn't helping you what will? Have you expressed your grievances to the normies? If not, just kill yourself so we can listening to your bitching.
>>27563582
Why would normies (especially college students) care about people killing themselves? There's already enough people on this shithole planet as it is. Also, since colleges indoctrinate students into being libcucks, wouldn't suicide be seen as free choice to do what you want with your own body? Why do libcucks support abortion but not suicide? It makes no fucking sense.
>>27564447
Social signalling.
Also, libcucks have yet to take a rational position on anything, no reason to think they'd choose to start with this.
>>27563724
You're forgetting
[Spoiler] this board is a circlejerk [/spoiler]
Oh come on at least they're trying
OP if you want to kill yourself just do it and don't search for an excuse not to do it.
>>27563582
I imagine how many of those normalshits willingly contributed to a poor robot's misery ( and possible suicide ) in the last year at the very least.im assuming all of them and we all know its true
>>27564333
What about people who don't have meme depression and want to kill themselves for reason unrelated to having a gf?
>>27565765
Unless we have a cure it is only understandable that people who suffer severe depression commit suicide.
>>27563949
>What would you propose be done about it then? What's a better idea? Don't you dare fucking say "give me a girlfriend".
Some of the major causes of suicide and depression are well known. What they call "relationship breakdown" is a big one, but what they really mean is - man marries a woman and spends years with her, putting resources into her, then the courts skin him alive financially and take his children. This is an obvious way you could decrease male suicide - by making the courts less misandry, by ending the assumption of female moral superiority, and by denying women the 'right' to steal men's resources post-marriage.
Another big cause is joblessness and unemployment, or work stress. Well how about we cut out the "free jobs for women" program that ever single major corporation and government has going which is stealing literally billions of dollars worth of employment opportunities from men? How about paying some attention to the educational disparities that exist which mean that women are far more likely to go on to higher education, etc?
Another issue is that men simply can't talk about their emotional problems with people around them, and women are so busy playing the victim card and routing resources and social capital their own way that men are disregarded. How about addressing this?
Depression and suicide are existential responses to real life problems, and most of these real life problems have causes that can be attacked. Most of these "depression activism" things only encourage fetishisation of mental health status.
if you really want to stop suicide do the following:
>remove alimony completely
>bullying and making noise in class are punishable by law
there is more to it but i think its a great start
>>27567123
if you would punish bullying by law what would then be considered as bullying? what if someone gets shit on by his classmates and they tell the teacher he has bullied him with his chad friends saying so too?
>>27564447
Imagine if you were such a cynical cunt that you could no longer understand what empathy even is. That would be hilarious
>>27564998
>willingly contributed to a poor robot's misery
What do you even think you mean by that
>>27567081
>literally telling women to check their privilege
This board is reverse tumblr
>maybe it will be ok for my grandchildren to admit when they're depressed
Eh I say give them a shot.
>>27567123
>making noise in class are punishable by law
This is why no one likes you
>>27567797
Except that our complaints are legitimate, and female privilege actually exists.
The rate of male suicide doubled in many western countries over the past 10-20 years, while the female rate of suicide remained the same or in many cases declined.
>>27567081
>men are disregarded
I don't think it's just that. Women are perpetuating the men can't show emotions meme because they don't like that. It's unattractive to them 99% of the time.
>>27567797
>reverse Tumblr
>Tumblr is incorrect
Yeah that doesn't sound like an insult to me.
>>27567844
>have kids grow up in a household with one working parent
>have kids grow up in two households
>have kids grow up away from the nurturing mother
>have kids starve without alimony money
>leave half the workforce unemployed so unskilled men's feelings aren't hurt
>give men more attention?
How does it feel knowing that no one will ever listen to you or take you seriously?
>>27567081
I love you, based Anon.
>>27563949
give me a "girlfriend", aka a govt prostitute
>>27568059
It's like tumblr as in how irrational it is, but with MRAs instead, so reverse
suicide is a RIGHT, fuck anyone who says otherwise
>>27568061
>have kids grow up in a household with one working parent
>have kids grow up in two households
>have kids grow up away from the nurturing mother
The 'nurturing' mother is far more likely to emotionally and physically abuse the children. She's already made the choice of marrying a man, having children with him, and then suddenly changing her mind and committing to a decision that likely economically and emotionally destroys him. Nowhere did I argue against the right to divorce or anything like that - I'm talking about the misandric assumption that children should default to mothers, this is an established doctrine that feminists fought for. It's bad for men and bad for children, and ultimately bad for women.
>have kids starve without alimony money
You're confusing alimony with child-payments. A man should not be required to pay for children who'd been taken from him. Children don't starve in the absence of this money, and female parents are capable of work.
>leave half the workforce unemployed so unskilled men's feelings aren't hurt
Who is saying to leave women unemployed? I'm criticising the "free jobs for women" programs - the quotas and 'wage gap' social pressure that women bring to bear to give themselves free jobs, stealing opportunities from men who would otherwise in most cases be better qualified. This doesn't ban women from the workforce - it creates equal competition for job places. Women know they lose with equal, fair competition, though - that's why they seem to manipulate these jobs out of institutions.
>give men more attention?
If women were better behaved, they could have more a meaningful relationship with a single man, rather than sleeping around with multiple men and then becoming a single mother, detested by men and even her own children.
>>27564145
https://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=1006041925020
Normie responses to this question...
>>27568400
>She's already made the choice of marrying a man, having children with him, and then suddenly changing her mind and committing to a decision that likely economically and emotionally destroys him.
I like how you assume that the mother will always be at fault here. Women are naturally more caring than men too, and it makes more sense for the man to work
> A man should not be required to pay for children who'd been taken from him.
His own kids? Why not? Shouldn't he be trying to give them the best life possible no matter what?
> female parents are capable of work.
So you want the single mother to work and raise the kids
> I'm criticising the "free jobs for women"
Which will encourage more women to work in the long run
>women know they lose with equal, fair competition, though - that's why they seem to manipulate these jobs out of institutions.
Stopped reading there, never a good sign when you start to see conspiracies Molly. Are you a NEET?
>>27563582
>>27563836
>UH
Lel rice fag here
how does it feel to get robbed by niggers everyday and have no azn qt, and on top of that have no job prospects?
>>27568184
>irrational
Well Tanya if it's irrational you could respond to it and point out what the problems are. He's not citing statistics directly but this is common knowledge really. He claims to know the reasons behind it and things like misandry in courts is statistically verifiable.
I'm not seeing how responding that it's reverse tumblr is in any way a response from a person who appreciates rational arguments. Sure. It's true that they're both social justice warriors on opposite ends but the weight of argument doesn't seem particularly strong in Tumblr's case usually. I think anon here did pretty well.
>>27563582
Lol do they actually care though ?
>>27567721
Normies don't have empathy that's just life formula
>>27568483
I love when you can see how stupid someone is.
>>27563582
you're a fucking dumb ass if you think those people aren't aware of suicide because they struggle with it
>>27568593
Read the supply chain Kristy, he clearly became irrational towards the end of that last post
>>27568648
>supply chain
Fuck sake Patton
>>27568648
>read the supply chain
Sorry not a native speaker, don't know if there's anything but the plain interpretation of this.
>Another issue is that men simply can't talk about their emotional problems with people around them
I consider everything pretty much obviously true up until here This isn't exactly true, it's possible but it's generally detrimental in many ways. If you're a man with problems you should find a therapist.
>Depression and suicide are existential responses to real life problems
Also true. Quite obvious.
>Most of these "depression activism" things only encourage fetishisation of mental health status.
I mean if we just ignore his arguments entirely because he wrote this you'd never hold a conversation with a person really. This is his unmotivated opinion and perception. It's entirely unrelated to his post really.
So yeah, if you have anything else that's irrational I'd like to see you point it out. I don't think it's valid to just ignore all his points because he posted an opinion.
>>27564145
Don't forget about that medical bill. I'm lucky to have my uni's insurance or I'd be financially fucked. Tbqh suicide should be allowed once one reaches 25 I'm hoping I distance myself from everybody and go out at 30 and senpai don't feel too bad. Only 8 more years :(