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Any of you ever do anything bad on TOR?
No Mr. FBI man, I swear
tor is literally no different than google chrome.
fbi always knows what you're doing but they only go after the big fish.
>>27481415
Don't worry, I have. Depressed /gaypaedo/ here.
>>27481443
i hope that isnt true
>>27481466
Look up some news articles on it.
>>27481449
Sick fuck. Just convert to 2D.
>>27481491
I did! It's like a high! It only gets you going for a while and then you feel the need to move on to worse things. I only ever did it once though and never again.
Jdownloader 2 + lurking YouNow for hours and hours is all I need.
>>27481541
what's Jdownloader?
>>27481443
Tor is vastly different to google chrome..
There is so much to fuck with if you know your way around a command line interface, you don't even need to know high level programming languages to play games.
>>27481443
this 'tor is a botnet' meme is a good example of how disinfo and general COINTELPRO can permeate the consciousness of a community
if you actually look at the documentation on the official tor website, you will understand how tor works, and how it is extremely different from google chrome.
>>27481491
once again, disinfo and recommending illegitimate, TERTIARY sources when you can easily find the actual information.
>>27481550
Google it nigga, its a magical program that can download any .flv from any website. Don't need TOR to download videos of girls twerking from YouNow, thats just dancing man shits legal.
>>27481246
daily reminder that users of the tor browser are instantly blacklisted by the NSA. Pretty much everyone using it is assumed to be a drug dealer, terrorist, pedophile, or career criminal
>>27481635
daily reminder that security through obscurity will never be successful.
more people download/use tor = stronger the network becomes = more fucked over the NSA is with their "lists."
>>27481562
>>27481575
Just google "fbi tor" and you'll find heaps of articles where pedos get nailed while using tor.
>>27481635
>blacklist meme
stay on r/4chan please
>>27481635
I work a job that required a very, very deep background check and I use TOR and shit.
>>27481683
>stay on r/4chan please
tor is used almost entirely by shady fucks. You can be uncovered
>>27481677
at this point tor users are a pretty distinct entity. The only thing that will protect you is being to insignificant to be hunted down
>>27481683
those are done by time correlation attacks as well as javascript exploitation (that are already being done on you if you ever enable javascript in your browser). the pedos are caught using seized and hijacked servers that collect enough info from the stupid ones who are retarded enough to register and visit those kinds of high-profile, high-attention sites that are always being monitored.
you can assume if a pedo site stays online for more than a week or two it's a fed honeypot. the smart ones that aren't caught use i2p and freenet more anyway. ultimately, it's nice that the fbi can catch the stupid ones, especially the ones who require you to create "OC" in order to get into the website itself.
>i would say something about why are you so worried about pedo scum being caught but i'm pretty sure you're under the false impression that every server hosting hidden services is a honeypot, which isnt true, look at all of the markets that are being used
>>27481575
You do know TOR was hacked a while ago, right? you fucking retarded monkey.
>>27481790
oh i have no doubt that i'm just one insignificant user of an entire network. that's what's nice about it, plus the entire anonymity thing which is very much real and used every single day.
i'm not really too worried about being tracked down, the nature of tor and its infrastructure is actually quite good at preventing that, but if and only if you take the necessary precautions (disabling javascript, flash, various other anti tracking settings). i was making a point that, if people continue to use tor for normal means like doing google searches and reading the news, those nsa lists would become irrelevant and deprecated. plus, the network as a whole would become stronger.
>>27481822
source?
>hmm, okay den
>>27481863
I now lets you disable all scripts easily at the top left corner of the browser.
>>27481877
google it you fucking retarded newfag moron.
>>27481801
>i2p
lol how the fuck do you use that shit?
I downloaded it but it wasn't like a normal browser so I was all like 'wtf senpai?' haha
is it better than tor? how is it different?
>>27481955
How do you fill out the captcha without using scripts? I never get it right.
>>27482015
Well idk what site captcha you're referring to so i can't say. some are adjusted for this feature.
>>27481246
go away mr. fbi
>>27481955
I? do you mean tor browser? they've come pretty far. most people need to practice opsec though, that's %50 of the battle.
>>27481979
lmao pic related
>>27482000
it's a bit annoying to get used to. i dont feel like going into it too much but basically to use it like a normal browser you have to add sites to your "address book." these are the only sites that you'll be able to browse. yeah it's not like a normal browser 'cause everything is run through peer-to-peer networks. in that way, it's far better than tor because there is no chance of a server that gets thousands of visitors being compromised. it's far more secure than tor. however, it's far less popular, which means it's slow compared to tor, and veeeeeeeery slow compared to normal internet. however its torrent community is actually quite nice. see here for a quick read: https://thetinhat.com/tutorials/darknets/i2p.html
>>27482046
4chan captcha. The google one used to access the site.
It's much easier with scripts enabled.
I literally can't do the harder version.
>>27482080
why do you need to use tor for 4chan, anyway? lol
>>27482064
Yeah, i meant to write "it"
>>27482015
what captcha, most clearnet sites have one
>>27482064
It sounds cool so maybe I'll have another go at it.
Traditional torrent sites are about to be banned in Australia anyway.
>>27482080
cloudflare is the bane of tor users existence. i try to just avoid sites using it and instead browse 4chan on a paid vpn using regular internet.
also 4chan blocks all tor users from posting if you were thinking of doing that. 8ch is more friendly to tor, its r9k isn't too bad either.
>>27482106
yeah man go for it. these kinds of networks are great for oppressive regimes kek
>>27481801
>you can assume if a pedo site stays online for more than a week or two it's a fed honeypot
lmao you retard, even look up articles about sites that stay up for years, the shit you are saying is just not true
>>27482096
>>27482103
I see captcha like this sometimes and cant do it.
it changes to something easier if i enable scripts
I'm not browsing shady sites with tor so it doesn't matter. Just hiding my furry fetish from isp.
All the fucking time. Credit cards, guns, good porn. What is your particular stupid question OP?
>>27482170
>he's getting desperate
while the server itself may not be compromised at that point in time, sites that stay up for "years" are the constant target of organized efforts to trap users. they register, "contribute" with the vast amount of content their agency has at its disposal, and then share a 'link' that is actually an executable payload that reveals their ip. oh and this is just the start- those sites like pp & lc are compromised and stay compromised for months before being shutdown and the users (mostly the admins) are arrested. so yes, those websites that stay up for "years" (from what i've seen they have a lifespan of less than a year but lolk) are indeed honeypots, in one way or another.
>>27482270
>good porn
ew
>>27482283
is m.a.s.t.e.r.chan a honeypot?
>>27482270
>good porn
fuck off jared
>>27482288 I'm not
sure where you think you are.
>>27482151
Can't blame the chans for blocking tor users. If they didn't it would cp central.
>>27482313
Nah son. I'm good right where I'm at.
>>27482313
Weird post. You ask whether cp-chan is a honeypot while at the same time telling some pedo to fuck off.
I shitpost regurarly on the imageboards there. The hidden services also hold libraries with loads of kickass info.
Other than that, I use it as a transparent proxy to run some of my "tools" on.
>>27481699
Walmart?
The absurd amount of assumptions going on right now.. seriously, download the damn program. Do a Google search for "that one wiki that is hard to see." Get as many addresses for it as you can and start exploring.
>>27482363
I've only been there a couple of times, got quite a shock the first time.
I'm just curious to know what your thoughts are.
>loads of kickass info.
Like what?
>tools
Are you a black hat haxxor?
>>27482392
I'd rather not get my door kicked in desu senpai.
>>27481979
You're a complete faggot and I hope all your loved ones die a slow and horrible disrespectful death, and you have to bury each one.
>>27482407
That actually happened to me.
Word of advice, don't move to Western Australia if you want to avoid situations like that.
>>27482393
Well marachan been through a lot. I hope it's not a honeypot. Who cares though.
>>27482313
i can plausibly deny that, because i am not a fed, kek. however mc hosts the exact same kind of content as 8ch does. in fact their moderation is stricter.
nothing hosted on both websites that stays up is "illegal." however, if you do have some cheesy crust pizza on your hdd when the feds bust down your door, prepare to have everything counted as cp (and added to your "x" counts of possession).
>>27482444
You should care though.
If it is a honeypot then aren't you fucked?
Why risk it? I don't understand the pedo mentality.
Prison is not a nice place.
>>27482456
Most people are to depressed to care about stuff like that. In any case you shouldn't worry if you visit it through Tor and don't post CP.
Do any Tails users know to use a VPN with tails?
I the website says ou can't but I'm sure some people do it
>>27482429
now thats a story i want to hear.
>>27482456
why do drug addicts risk prison to get their fix? same why pedos risk jail to get theirs. now consider if both were legal, we wouldnt have as many prisoners right? but then it would be chaos (maybe) so better to just lock them up instead of treat the problem.
>>27482482
are you sure you want to do that?
>>27481575
But it has a grain of truth in it too. While Tor deanonymization of hidden services is hard, it's doable. These attacks have been going on for a while now, by both state actions and private people/groups. Solution? Set up a number of trusted tor nodes and use them as an exit node for your hidden service.
The deanonymization of tor users is easier, assuming they are total retards, use JS and whatever. If they don't they can always be tracked using cookies, browser signatures (in which order the headers are transferred), the headers they send (DNT, User-Agent) if they have JS turned off and such. The Tor browser tries to keep everyone at the same level, but there is always the asshat who installs adblock on their tor browser and creates a new tracking signature.
Also, different services have different type of protocols involved. If the Drug Market X is managed by a torified SSH service, while the encryption on it or the Tor protocol cannot be broken, the SSH protocol looks and acts totally different than say, HTTP.
>>27481801
Here is how you'd deanonymize a hidden server easily. First of all, try to narrow down the possibilities on where the server could be hosted. If the timestamp says Germany, start there.
Ping ip ranges and check the sequence number.
Send some data to the server.
Check sequence numbers again.
Now you can narrow down on a lot of IP's whose sequence number only changed by one and throw them away. Rinse and repeat until you have only a handful of servers left.
Seize the servers. Check what's inside.
>>27481246
Of anyone here is truly from the black hat community (or are part of one) I urge you too use your expertise too find me. It is one of my most adament wishes too become 1337. I have no former experience but have nothing but respect for hackers and their culture. If you wet to be my mentor. I will promise and swear ultimate anonymity. As well I would devote any spare time too further my knowledge and skill set of hacking. Thank you.
yea i saw daisys destruction by accident
>>27482587
>by accident
>>27482393
Check the libraries, they have loads and loads of old books, diagrams, tactical education for soldiers, survival stuff, tech, chemistry, zines, leaked info and papers and the best of all:
It's better organized than the clearweb.
>haxxor
I prefer the term Battle Programmer Shirase.
>>27482623
Oh thanks I didn't even respond to your post properly.
What are zines?
>>27482499
I thought it would improve anonymity.
Or is there somethig wrong with it as your question suggests?
>>27482577
Why don't you learn like the rest of us. Read a book nigger, a book about computators. Then pick a server and sit on your ass for hours trying to get in, reading even more books, manuals and documentation on how fucker works/could work in the backend.
And when you finally do get in, drink a beer and move to the next one.
>>27482644
kr5hou2zh4qtebqk dot on i on /ezines/
It's history, man...
>>27482270
Is there good legal porn on tor?
>>27482696
>good
>legal
pick one anon
So much garbage info in this thread.
Tor: Hosting hidden services has been broken for years. Timing attacks, sniper attacks, statistical correlation...If a state agency wants to find your hidden service, they can do it quite quickly. Tor was never designed to host hidden services, they were an after thought.
Freenet: It's been known to be not safe for a while. A guy within the last 12 months was arrested for cp while using freenet. If the state wants to find you, they will find you on freenet.
i2p:Here's where it gets interesing. On the surface, i2p doesn't seem to have the technical weaknesses of tor and freenet. The problem is that we don't know for sure if that is the case, because nobody uses it. There is no reason to attack something that nobody uses.
>>27482503
i agree that it's doable. however, the tor project is really quite good at finding these exploits before malicious agents, so as long as you keep your browser up to date you will be good. and yeah, opsec is a huge part of remaining safe and those people who violate it have no one to blame but themselves.
>>27482567
what, a tcp sequence prediction? you realize this is easily avoidable if you have the slightest idea of how to manage a hidden service? and then what happens when the server you spent so much time and money trying to find was already wiped, or was a vps, or was actually a virtual IP that belonged to a server in the ukraine? lol nah, if it was easy as you think, our biggest problem wouldnt be market exit scams ;D
>>27482648
well, adding a vpn is simply adding another unknown, possibly compromised actor to the equation. for accessing tor itself, if you cant do it normally, thats why tor bridges exist.
if you really want to use a vpn you can use SOCKS to bypass any kind of tor restriction.
https://tails.boum.org/blueprint/vpn_support/
>>27482696
I know pink-meth is still up, if that's your kind of thing. What do you mean by good? Any fetish you could possibly imagine, can be found on the openweb.
>>27482663
Good sir would cis be a good start?? Like taking a course at a community college about computer information?? Thank you.
>>27482732
>state agencies dont care about massive drug markets moving millions of dollars and that's why they're still up
>t-they can take them down at any time!
um ok
didnt bother to read the rest
im going to bed anyway, night all
>>27482762
Take a class on linux.
How bad is M@sterchan?
>>27482774
Very well thank you for the tip. Have a pleasant day friend.
>>27482768
Some do, some don't. The NSA doesn't give a shit about it. The FBI/DEA do. It's only very recently that the FBI/DEA have set up systems to attack hidden services, and then have them run in the name of foreign governments, because their actions would be illegal here in the states.
Silk Road 1 was brought down because the NSA was looking for freedom hosting, and just happened to deanonymize every hidden service by lighting the network up like an x-mas tree. This was in early to mid May of 2013.
>>27482821
You'll have an introduction to the terminal, script writing, and everything else that makes a l33t h4x0r.
>>27482747
Oh I see, thanks
Bloxx
>>27482587
Is this a meme like the grifter?
>>27482888
nope, the guy have been caught not so long ago too
anyone on tor make their own imageboard yet?
>>27482896
so.... uhh what is it?
>>27482939
I'd love to, but I don't want it to get filled with cp. I did that in 2009 and that is exactly what happened.
>>27482952
On Tor isnt there a way to privatize a board?
I was thinking about having one just ot put my memes and daily thoughts n shit on it
>>27482989
What do you mean by privatize?
>>27483012
passworded url or something?
>>27483012
I think he wants to make it like his own personal blog.
>>27483047
So, a private chan? Where only people with logins can view the board? Sure...
>>27482826
>Silk Road 1 was brought down because the NSA was looking for freedom hosting, and just happened to deanonymize every hidden service by lighting the network up like an x-mas tree.
Huh?
>>27482944
Australian man fucks a Filipino toddler to death for commercial cp. News articles everywhere about it.
>>27483077
Snowden had a tormail address, which was hosted by freedom hosting. Everyone knew that. In early april of 2013, a paper was published by the ieee about deanonymizing hidden services. In early to mid May of 2013, a massive attack on freedom hosting, and subsequently the rest of the network, happened that was identical to that described in the paper. Only a state agency with a lot of funding would have been able to pull this off at the time. The reasoning behind fingering the NSA is that they wanted Snowden. They wanted to know what he knew, and who he was communicating with. Discovering the ip's of every other hidden service just falls in line with the 'total situational awareness' meme that they follow. They just handed the info about silk road over to the FBI/DEA and they just used parallel construction to make the case legal.
>>27483077
It's false anyway. Ulbricht got caught because he was a dumbass on many levels, including putting SR on his resume on LinkedIn, posting the configuration on StackOverflow under his real name, allowing a shitty CAPTCHA script to leak the IP, and trying to hire a hitman.
>>27483170
Got a link to any of the articles?
>>27481979
>I'm too lazy to provide a proper source so I'll tell them to google knowing they won't because I'm all shit
>>27483270
Ulbricht was the fall guy. Look at the name; the "Dread Pirate Roberts". The the movie "The Princess Bride" the name "Dread Pirate Roberts" was passed down between pirates as each one retired.
He was just the patsy who was set up to take the fall.
>>27483226
>blah blah fake facts, everyone knew that.
the service that he used for email was Lavabit, btw. link to paper?
>>27483270
>CAPTCHA script
Everyone I have ever talked to that has seen the technical info has said that this is complete garbage. The jury selection was such that even knowing how to use a computer meant you couldn't be on the jury.
The other two were idiot mistakes that could have been found via parallel construction.
>>27483273
https://www.google.com/search?q=Australian+man+rape+philippines
>>27483297
>fake facts
The fuck? Are you trolling? A simple google search or snowden tormail will prove he was using tormail. He many have been using lavabit, and that's why the owner shut it down, but that was well after the freedom hosting debacle.
>http://www.ieee-security.org/TC/SP2013/papers/4977a080.pdf
>>27483311
>Scully is also under investigation, but has not been charged, over the rape of an 18-month-old baby girl.
hardcore
Nice try NSA. Fuck off
>>27483170
Not true. Filipino toddler gets tortured by another Filipino woman and is not shown to be killed on camera.
>>27483955
>falling for an obvious FBI bait
