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>every single right wing framing, talking point and argument greatly benefits the rich and powerful at the expense of everyone else
>mfw right wingers are just corporatist boot lickers but they don't realize it because it's never framed that way
It's often framed that way. Politically I'm a conservative and there's more to it than benefiting the rich and powerful, read some conservative political theory and research traditionalist conservatism before you talk shit m9
Maybe you should learn a thing or two about economics before you say such stupid things.
Honestly, both sides are corporate bootlickers. Obama and Hilary are both completely in interest's pockets
>>27461713
>i think establishment rhetoric is an accurate portrayal of an entire strand of political thought and theory
and all leftists are liberals amirite
>>27461713
>implying left-wingers arn't the same thing
>>27461713
>oh shit i need to work for a living! the rich are LITERALLY stealing from me by not giving me free money. I hate fucking white males. #feelthebern
>>27461832
Who is the guy in that picture?
>because it's never framed that way
are you joking?
just on yikyak the other day I saw people saying conservatives love using poor kids as target practice
>>27461832
>thinking rich people work for their millions. lmfao
>he still believes in free market!
corporativism is where it's at, lads
>>27461832
>>oh shit i need to work for a living!
Vast majority of the poor work. This is in fact just what I'm talking about. Demonization of the poor is meant to reframe any attempt at
Now ask yourself this: where did the demonization of the poor come from? It comes from right wing think tanks, politicians and media. Who pays for them? Business interests. Why are they doing this? Do they just like to throw money around for fun? It's to convince people to work against their own interests, and so that it furthers theirs.
Because if they said straight up "We want to fuck you over to help my rich buddies out" no one would vote for them. So they use wedge issues, like sexuality and religion, or demonize the poor. By making it about lazy people vs. hard working people, the needs of the poor and the system that screws them over is ignored.
The biggest employer in America used to be General Motors. Factory jobs paid well, and people could earn well to pay for a full family for their whole lives. Those jobs are now gone. The biggest employer now is Wal mart.
So are people just supposed to work harder when those well paying factory jobs are just gone and replaced by minimum wage jobs in places that suppress any kind of unions?
>>27461958
Carl the Cuck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYOy1tuVv3w
>>27462012
if they inherit it then chances are they inherited some of the intelligence/resourcefulness/etc that allowed their parents or grandparents to generate that money in the first place
and besides it's not like your parents bust their ass to help strangers improve their lives. they do that for you.
>>27461832
>>27462085
>the rich are LITERALLY stealing from me by not giving me free money.
Directly and indirectly they are. Why is the GOP so obsessed with lowering taxes? There's no evidence it improves the economy and every study shows the opposite. Because it is the rich wanting THEIR taxes reduces so they can make more money.
Lower taxes means more of the tax burden is shifted to the middle and lower classes. They want you to pay more, so they pay less.
In addition, corporations and the rich use tax loop holes and tax havens to reduce the money that they pay in taxes. They are legally required to pay these taxes, and they use tricks to avoid that. And we have a GOP and many Dems hell bent on never closing any of these tax loop holes.
With the taxes, and off shore jobs, we have seen a wealth transfer from the lower and middle classes to the top.
And on top of that the increases in efficiency are not passed onto the workers. The rich get the pay raise from these efficiencies, but we don't.
>>27462085
Don't bother, conservacucks will never understand and will continue bootlicking against their own best interests. Even robot NEETs who would all be put in concentration camps if the right-wing powers that be had their way
>>27462124
It's even more ironic when they complain about "the elites", or "the jews" and so forth. They think they're rebels who are fighting for freedom from oppression. But they end up just fighting harder for their master to put chains on them.
>>27461713
>trusting poor people with money
>>27461713
You're talking about the economic right wing
>>27462429
Poor people spend almost all the money they get. Giving them money is pumping it directly back into the economy. In other words, giving the poor money is a direct economic stimulant.
>>27462434
Who dominate the right. Who dominate the religious right. Who dominate the Far right. They just take different forms but they are all about serving business interests.
For all their bitching about "The Jews" /pol/ loves the rich elites and hates anyone who fights them. They boil down economics to just race politics. The ultra rich who are Jews are bad. The ultra rich who are not jews are ignored. Because the billionaire of Irish descent in NYC totally has your interests at heart right?
>>27462530
pol =/= every right wing ideology
Fascism opposes business interests, but I guess you think fascism means 'kill the jews' or race war now
>>27462564
Just using them as one example. They're particularily ironic since they go on about how the rich Jews exploit them, but then hate anyone on the left who tries to reign in business interests.
>i-if i lick this boot hard enough maybe i'll own a small boot someday too
Socialist revolution when?
>he's a nationalist
it doesn't get anymore cuck than this. /pol/ is a joke
this image pretty much sums up my view on right wingers who aren't in the top income brackets
>>27461713
>liberal shill posters have spread to at arcanine
No thanks SJW.
>>27461808
Obama and Hillary are both centrist democrats
>>27462595
i agree. but you cant paint the right with one brush
>>27461713
you have 5 minutes to explain how denying my thin privilege helps the elite
>>27462564
>Fascism opposes business interests,
Businesses in Germany liked the Nazis since they opposed communism and unions. There is still a lot of hostility towards the left, socialism, unions and communism among the far right. And Anti-Unionism is still widespread among the right.
>>27462621
the fat man votes republican because he hates foreigners, minorities, women, socialists, gays, and liberals more than he hates capitalists
commies will never be able to understand that
SJWS AND COMMUNISTS OUT
>>>/r/eddit
>>27462655
> class privilege
> never earned
Is xe implying that you can't save some money and start a business?
>>27462659
National SOCIALISM
>>27462621
This is why we need National Socialism. A party that will both purge the degeneracy that ruins a society and expel those who take advantage of the people/workers.
right wing politics shits in the face of anyone who isn't on top in life, that's why i disagree with it
>>27461713
Now this is straight up fucking bullshit.
You get what you earn, and that's how it should be.
Giving poor people money for free is fucking stupid unless they have an excuse for sitting on their asses all day
>>27462655
You do realize that the people who spout that shit are university kids with rich daddies who want to find something to complain because they can't complain about the only actual inequality?
The actual inequality where your opinion about it literally decides whether you're left or right?
Why do Americand never understand what left and right mean in political terms? Is it just the brainwashing. This nigger is a literal example.
>of i must vote to give more of my money to the rich people because this girl on internet is stooooopid and the rich guys say that i must vote for them to be against it
Fucking kill yourself.
>>27462709
The is a country called Democratic People's Republic. Guess what, it's not democratic, not people's and not a republic.
>>27462737
>You get what you earn, and that's how it should be.
But that's not how it is you fucking retard.
>>27462662
But capitalists screw him over hard core and more than anyone else.
The 2008 recession is strangely almost forgotten in public discourse. Was it caused by any of those groups? It was caused by Wall Street short sighted greed.
>>27462670
I hate commies and SJW though.
Commies, socialists, and anarchists are correct in what they criticize. Read Marx and he's spot on about 19th century capitalism. Where they go wrong is their solutions. They are certain about what they're fighting against, but not what they're fighting for. They either ignore what their new society would look like or paint it in the broadest strokes. It all just seems so unworkable.
SJW are what happens when you take identity politics to the extreme. It becomes incredibly divisive and narsicistic. They care about petty inane middle class white people problems and completely ignore economics. The problems of the world are caused by white heterosexual males they say. I say that the economic elite, who are predominantly white males, are to blame for many of the problems in the world. And the average white male that the SJW demonize is a powerful ally to use against the economic elite.
>>27462753
except it is democratic
Left wing people would rather the rich get poorer than the poor get richer.
Bernie sanders is a perfect example of this. His tax plan would make middle and low income people pay more of their hard earned money to the government.
Such is life under a left wing government.
Oh it's another thread with people thinking they are entitled to things that someone else earned? So funny.
>>27462737
but do they earn it? do you think johnny shekels who never had to work a day because of daddy earned that position?
>>27462778
>His tax plan would make middle and low income people pay more of their hard earned money to the government.
WRONG
kys
the taxes wouldn't even change until you get up to around the 100k mark, i don't have the chart on hand
>>27462753
> There is
I need to get more sleep, I guess.
>>27462765
Nope, it is. You sell your labor, you get the price from the contract. You think the price is unfair? Then go find a better contract. There is no contract with better price? Too bad, everything costs no much than the client is willing to pay.
>>27462769
>But capitalists screw him over hard core and more than anyone else.
he doesn't care who screws him. somebody is always and will always be screwing him.
>>27462709
Nazis were extremely anti-communist, anti-socialist and anti-union. Are you trying to deny this?
>>27462789
Yeah I'm all for 100% inheritance tax too.
>>27462124
>against our own interests
i really hate when rich libcucks say this. Id rather work hard than be a lazy NEET living in a crime infested area full of dangerous immigrants
>>27462805
You're wrong. Left wing policies always do this. I am from Europe originally with all that """"free"""" shit and it's taken away from the middle class and lower class through enormous sales taxes and income taxes. You'll see.
It also limits choices that poor people have. Now they must use the shitty government healthcare, etc. They have no choice because they cannot afford anything else.
>>27462791
After Johnny Shekels's father dies, Johnny wil inherit every single dime. If he is stupid, he will lose it very soon. If he is smart, it means he deserves it.
>it's a "16-20 year old /pol/ crossboarders try to get robots to vote against their own interests and in the interest of rich chad and stacy" episode
>>27462816
Yeah that's what I'm talking about. Do you really think someone should not be allowed to pass their money down to their offspring? Why not? It's their money, not yours to take.
>>27462737
>You get what you earn, and that's how it should be.
What do you think about the loss of manufacturing jobs resulting in millions of well paying fatory jobs being traded for minimum wage jobs?
What do you think of tax havens and loop holes that corporations and the rich use to avoid paying taxes?
What do you think of billions of dollars in corporate welfare?
>>27462108
>Lower taxes means more of the tax burden is shifted to the middle and lower classes
you realize trump isnt even going to make people making under 20k pay taxes, right?
>>27462860
>It's their money, not yours to take.
These words are triggering to a "liberal".
>>27462859
> democrats are trying to drag robots deeper into basement dwelling so they can vote for them every election
> their own interests
Pick one, please.
>>27461713
It's a shame there is only a two party system because that is literally the only alternative to the absolutely batshit left wingers' rhetoric and spreading my ass for worthless niggers. My hand is sort of forced, you know.
>>27462841
smart meaning he puts it in a bank account, under advisement of his inherited lawyers? C'mon, I know poor people who are that 'smart'
>>27461713
Is that why the left insists on letting in millions of illegal immigrants who drive down wages?
You know it was leftists that ultimately killed the manufacturing industry in the United States, leaving us with a mainly service economy which pays most people a hell of a lot less.
>>27462825
>i'd rather be a worthless wageslave for goldberg than a neet
lol
>>27462880
Under Trumps plan, people earning 50K wouldn't pay federal taxes.
>>27462859
>its a redditors raid /r9k/ episode
>>27462921
>it's a anyone who disagrees with my reactionary ideology is a redditor episode
>>27462778
Slight increase in taxes for all sorts of benefits like universal healthcare. All while private healthcare premiums disappear.
This is why short term obsession with taxes is moronic. Somehow private insurance isn't a "tax", but people freak out if the government charges you money, even if you end up saving a lot of money.
Again I ask, who started these low tax arguments? It's right wing think tanks who are funded by businesses. They want THEIR taxes low. They want to fight single payer healthcare because private insurance makes billions of dollars.
Unironically kill the rich.
>>27462917
At least i would be able to walk outside without getting blown up. Enjoy goldbergs multiculturalism and the occasional gibs, xir
>>27462878
>What do you think about the loss of manufacturing jobs resulting in millions of well paying fatory jobs being traded for minimum wage jobs?
I don't like it, but you can blame leftists for it by allowing unions to get too powerful and by making trade deals with other countries, who don't have unions, which allowed them to sell us those same goods for much cheaper
>What do you think of tax havens and loop holes that corporations and the rich use to avoid paying taxes?
I don't like it. It's a symptom of bloated, government bureaucracy.
>What do you think of billions of dollars in corporate welfare?
I'm against it. So I'm hoping when Obama leaves the Whitehouse there will be less of it.
>>27461713
How is it voting against my interests? Even though i only make 22k a year bernie says whites cant be poor so i guess ill just cash in my white privilege
>>27462934
>Somehow private insurance isn't a "tax"
It wasn't a tax until recently because of Obamacare making it mandatory.
Anyway let me answer you with my own situation. I have comprehensive health insurance with dental, vision, and life. My deductible is $250 and out of pocket maximum is 1500. Every month I pay $35 for this with my employer paying the other 95% of the cost. This is a benefit I negotiated as part of my job package. I can see a doctor the same day and it's 'free' to get a checkup. Always.
If I were still in Europe I would be paying hundreds each month, with a lower salary, for """""free""""" healthcare and enormous wait times. Sometimes I have had to wait months for an appointment.
I also don't pay sales tax because the state I live in doesn't have it.
Now tell me how I am voting against my own interests.
>>27461713
>voting for shitty government services
>voting for your country to become saudi arabia 2.0
>voting for feminists to destroy amy chance of you getting a gf
at least i get a $400 welfare check every month xD
>>27463014
What are your thoughts on the millions who remain uninsured?
>>27461713
Does it ever occur to a leftist to adhere to principals or ideals greater than themselves or do they literally just advocate for their own self interest?
I personally might benefit for some left-wing policies if they were implement. I can admit that. In fact, I have, but I don't think that it is a good thing for the citizenry to simply for themselves money or services.
Not without careful thought.
That kind of thing has allowed government pensions in this country to explode. It's unsustainable.
>>27462887
Yeah I wonder if I'll ever get an answer from them.
>>27462860
> Why not? It's their money, not yours to take.
You're a white male.
>>27463046
That's a failing of the current program but ultimately not my concern.
>>27463081
What are your thoughts on those who become bankrupted by medical costs?
http://www.cnbc.com/id/100840148
What do you think of people who hate their job but stick with it because it has good medical package?
>>27463143
>What are your thoughts on those who become bankrupted by medical costs?
I wouldn't want to be in that situation.
>What do you think of people who hate their job but stick with it because it has good medical package?
That's their choice.
>>27463169
>>27463081
So "tough luck" and "fuck em"?
Isn't it unpatriotic to condemn millions of Americans to poverty, poor health and financial ruin ?
Society has always benefited the rich and powerful.
I'm okay with things benefiting the rich, as it has always done, as long as there aren't Muslims and degenerate trannies running around all over the place like lefties want.
It's just a pity the right wing is generally environmentally unfriendly.
>>27463143
>What are your thoughts on those who become bankrupted by medical costs?
I think we need reform, but government funded healthcare isn't necessarily the only way to accomplish that.
Mind you I don't necessarily oppose government healthcare either.
>What do you think of people who hate their job but stick with it because it has good medical package?
Oh boo fucking hoo. What if they stay with a job they hate because the pay is good?
Are you gonna cry about that next?
>>27463207
No, how would it be? Nothing in the Constitution says the public needs to support the unfortunate, or the stupid, or the lazy.
Of-course, moderation is usually the best policy in such complex matters.
I believe there should be a safety net to catch people who stumble, but it should not be sufficient or legal to live on for very long.
The fed exists to protect our rights and our borders, nothing more.
>>27461713
>every leftist talking point benefits government bureaucrats and the globalist elite at the expense of everyone else, who give up their salary to perpetuate a police state that throws their money away towards helping third world niggers and financing corruption
>>27463245
health is my right as a human being
>>27463274
What is a right?
>>27463274
Where is that in the Constitution?
I suggest you eat and live healthy. You don't need to take other people's money to do that.
>>27462696
They would say all the money you earned was the result of undeserved privileges and they deserve it.
>>27462740
These people represent the mainstream left, they have successfully implemented affirmative action, preferential treatment or women or minority owned businesses, the community reinvestment act which contributed to the financial crisis and such things.
If you are part of another group of liberals who are sane and just want to end poverty, that's great, but you are in a very very small minority. I've certainly never heard you speak out against this until now.
By contrast the christian fundamentalists on the right are a shrinking group who are generally set apart from the moderates, I don't think anyone supports more corporate welfare or anything clearly pro-elite.
>>27463214
>It's just a pity the right wing is generally environmentally unfriendly
it really makes no sense that "conservatives" arent trying to conserve nature
>>27463830
Short term economic benefit. Do you think oil companies care about what happens decades from now?
>>27462104
>you inherit your father's virtues
This is garbage thinking even for a temporarily embarrassed burger.
>>27461713
>tfw i'd be left wing if every leftist wasn't a cuck
I only vote right because it's the only vote that's a firm "no" to the next wave of degeneracy
I'm not voting for the rich. I'm voting for my nation and fascism.
regards europoor
>>27461713
>>every single left wing framing, talking point and argument greatly benefits the rich and powerful at the expense of everyone else
>>mfw left wingers are just corporatist boot lickers but they don't realize it because it's never framed that way
What the fuck do you think socialism and communism do? We already know only those on top get anything good out of it, you fucking hypocrite.
>>27463984
>>27464027
Good goys.
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>>27464027
>left wing = communism
fuck this /pol/ tier thread.
>>27462093
I have never wanted to fuck a woman more than I want to fuck that woman on the left right now.
>>27464045
you mean bad goy
the jews want you to vote left so they can spread multiculturalism, sympathy for jews and other degeneracy
>>27464095
+5 Good Goy Points.
Vote right because Mr. Billionaire, gets to keep his tax loop holes, tax havens, gets his taxes cut, and has regulation dismantled.
>>27464095
Multiculturalism isn't degeneracy.
These arguments are so stupid. In the US both major parties work primarily for corporate interests. The idea that the "left" is for the little guy is a complete crock of shit.
>>27464179
Which is why myself and others are engaging in a full on revolt against the Democratic party right now.
>>27464216
>Bern victims
>revolting against corporatism
Top kek m8. Corporations are going to suck the government teat dry if Bernie institutes 'free' college and healthcare. Imagine all the new boondongles that will be added to inflate costs. Since the government is paying for it colleges don't have to worry about pricing students out of the market and instead focus on sheer volume. It will be the same for healthcare. Doctors already get kickbacks for prescribing brand-name drugs.
He says he's going to get it all from the top 1% but how long will they stay and let that happen. Soon after he gets elected it's going to be the top 5% then the top 10% then everyone.
>>27462696
In many poorer countries, yes, it's impossible to save up money to start a business.
>>27464143
>regulation dismantled
>lobby groups to impose regulation
Well, goy, which one is it?
Oh I know! It's the one the benefits your argument at the time it's being had. I see, well, if you want to be a fucking mongoloid and continue to vote left, I'll be here on the right if you ever want your gf's pussy and asshole to stop being slammed by migrants and niggers.
>>27462085
>well thought out opinions on /r9k/
fuck this shit i'm out
lel I live in a country where we have social healthcare and social eduation.
We basically managed to complete remove illiteracy, everyone can get an education if they want to and your academic success is tied to your skill and not whether you can afford uni or not.
My sister got sick yesterday and my parents just got her in the car and drove her to the hospital. I can't even imagine a situation where I would have to pay for that, or where I wouldn't be able to afford a visit to a doctor.
>>27464780
>I'll be here on the right if you ever want your gf's pussy and asshole to stop being slammed by migrants and niggers.
Immigration is another wedge issue the right uses to make people vote against their self-interest.
>>27464798
>lel I live in a country where we have social healthcare
So do I.
In the UK we have a shit-tier health service (the NHS) which for some reason everyone worships because they have the false impression of "it's free therefore it must be good".
The worst part is that once your country institutes socialised medicine, you can NEVER get rid of it. In the UK every single political party has identical policies on healthcare. Even our furthest right-wing parties supported a nationalised health service. And god forbid that any politician propose reforming it or perhaps diverting some funds away from it.
The public literally want 70% or more of the national budget at any one time to go to the NHS or else they brand the government as "evil" and "letting sick people die". Completely fucking illogical, stupid shit.
Basically, state-run healthcare is shite and you should never do it. Especially considering the best ranked healthcare systems in the world are mixed state/private systems. But of course you can't say that to leftists or else they accuse you of "wanting to make people pay for having cancer", even though that's literally not the argument at all.
>>27464863
>I can bring up wedge issues that support my side, but you can't do it cause that's not fair and it's scare/hate politics! Shitlord
>>27461713
I used to think like you when I was 15, OP.
I also used to be an anarchist when I was younger.
But then I started actually talking to right wing people. Seeing their arguments.
I realized that the right wing economic right wing is about defending your own, while the economic left wing is about redistribution of wealth.
"The left claims that the guilty party in a conflict is not the one who covets another's goods but the one who defends his own."
Imagine for a second a rich guy who once worked hard for his wealth. He isn't even particularly selfish, he gives to charities and such. But then comes along the government to tax him at really high rates to support causes he may not even believe in.
"I'm sorry rich guy, but I don't care how much you worked for your wealth, it belongs to everyone. We are going to use your taxes to import mexicans, warmongering and approving gay marriage, whether you like it or not. If you refuse, you will go to prison."
Put yourself in that man's place for a second and you'll see why some people are not happy with socialism.
>>27464954
Keep in mind this applies to anyone with a certain amount of wealth that they don't want to give away, not just rich people.
>>27464886
Despite some wait times, I can stand by my Canadian socialized medicine. I can't think of having to depend on my work to get coverage, or running the risk of bankrupsy if I get sick. That just seems so backwards and insane.
>>27462919
That's for couples, under his plan anyone working and single gets 0% taxes working at or below 25k.
>>27464954
>I realized that the right wing economic right wing is about defending your own,
hey represent the interests of the rich and wealthy. But the problem is that their views are over represented in politics due to the amount of money they have. And they get people to vote for them, even though it hurts their economic interests.
The economic right are libertarians, think tanks, and the like. They advocate for businesses because the system benefits them. They're rich.
And please explain how trade deals in any way "defend your own" wealth? It only benefitted some
Or how the entire GOP rejects Climate Change science. That is going to screw most of humanity over so hard. The rich knew it was real since the 70's but have been funding a marketing campaign against it for decades.
Or Wall Street regulation, which is much more bipartisan. Hell it was led by Reagan, then Clinton then Bush.
Any major catastrophe is going to result in the majority of people getting screwed over but the rich won't hurt. They have their millions and their gated communities.
>>27461713
Get the fuck out commie
>>27465176
>Get the fuck out commie
More right wing framing. Anyone critical of big money interests = communist. It's a childish ad hominem to discredit the left and anyone who advocated any kind of regulation.
>>27465165
The GoP doesn't reject climate change, they simply realize that it's not due to human action. Most estimates are around 3% of all carbon is human-made through industry, and the likes.
The GoP is right to say that crippling our economy to reduce emissions from 3% to 2.5% is absurd.
Also, please don't ever give Libertarians the title of "academic", think-tank", "not retarded" or anything along those lines.
>>27465205
Corporations lobbying the government are more responsible for regulations on their own industries than any socialist government could ever even imagine being.
>>27465220
>The GoP doesn't reject climate change, they simply realize that it's not due to human action. Most estimates are around 3% of all carbon is human-made through industry, and the likes.
While it's true that man made sourcses are dwarfed by natural ones, the implications that human sources are not relevant is wrong. Natural emissions are balanced by natural absorption. But human sources are more than what nature can hold and build up over time. Read more:
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11638-climate-myths-human-co2-emissions-are-too-tiny-to-matter/
>>27465165
>hey represent the interests of the rich and wealthy
or anyone who does not want to give away their wealth, even if that wealth is small
>They advocate for businesses because the system benefits them.
Well of course
nobody likes being forced to support things that don't benefit them
>And please explain how trade deals in any way "defend your own" wealth? It only benefitted some
it's no just about defending your wealth, it's about using it for causes that you personally support, which of course includes expanding said wealth
>That is going to screw most of humanity over so hard.
no it isnt
I agree that it is manmade and a problem, but it's not nearly as bad as some people seem to think
>Or Wall Street regulation, which is much more bipartisan. Hell it was led by Reagan, then Clinton then Bush.
then this is a thing of the rich, not the right wing
I'll give one example why this is wrong. In 1924, Standard Oil was researching tetraethyl lead as a gasoline additive. 32 out of 49 workers had to be hospitalized due to lead poisoning. 5 died. A federal panel made entirely of industry scientists later concluded that there was no danger from tetraethyl lead.
Talk shit get hit lefties. You don't belong here.
>>27463169
>ignoring a failed and terrible system because you happen to be in a good situation
>the millions of people hurt by this every day are none of your business even though you live in the same country
right wingers mane
>>27465673
Just selfish cunts.
>>27465205
The thing is the policies you support are in the interest of "big money".
The more you take away from people's incomes and hand off to government, the easier it is for corporations to entrench themselves by lobbying for subsidies and lopsided regulations, when they would otherwise go bankrupt.
Politicians profit greatly from it, crooked businessmen profit greatly from it, taxpayers and entrepreneurs pay the price.
>>27463963
I guess people who say "I try to avoid alcohol because there's a history of addiction in the family" are just being worried over nothing?
>>27465725
Actually we support the idea of becoming rich yourself through unconventional means other then importing a shit ton of brown people and making poverty worse via lack of jobs and welfare.
>>27465806
Damn, dude fucking wrecked you losers.
Everyone who believe in Healthcare for all and free education is a dirty hippie who has never worked a day in their life and are mooching off the divine job creators of this country like the the Walton family.
>>27466055
You could at least try to construct an argument.
