Who else here is a proud liberal and not ashamed of it?
depends, what kind and type of "liberal" are you referring to?
>>27458568
Inb4 authoritarian Democrat pretending to be a liberal.
do socialists count?
Me! My wife's son is one too. My wife's boyfriend is voting Trump though and it makes me furious >:(((((
>>27458555
Probably most liberals, you people are so high off your own presumed moral superiority.
>>27458596
>anarchism = left wing
>fascism = right wing
Joke
I don't like to be categorised, desu. I believe that people who need help should be helped, if they can be helped, and that class separates people more than race.
>>27458623
>spot the turbokike
>>27458620
Show me a right wing anarchist
All of them love nigger dick and hate white people
>>27458596
This image was made by someone with little political understanding and the circle was drawn by someone with even less.
>>27458555
liberalism is a mental illness for weak people
>>27458632
Steven Molyneaux
>>27458620
right wing anarchism would probably be some form of traditionalism IE NOT anarchism, which traditionally is a post-marxist school of thought centered around, "fuck all authority, especially religion."
>fascism =/= right wing
Joke
>>27458652
Damn! A snippet of some book, NOOOO! This snippet of some book makes me question every leftist belief I've ever had.
>>27458664
Show me a right wing anarchist who doesn't lead a cult.
ITT: Minorities and people under 20 years old
Prove me wrong
Pro tip: You actually can't
>>27458736
I'm a 24 year old white man, kid. Try again.
>>27458652
>muh cherry picking
The irony here being that while Teddo decries modern liberalism, according to him the people masturbating over how great technology and industry is, especially the right wingers, subscribe to the same form of mental illness.
>>27458746
Suuure you're white
>>27458787
>le jews XD HE POSTED IT AGAIN LMAOOOO THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN XDDDDD
>>27458736
ITP: Satan
prove me wrong
also liberals are a majorly white demographic
>>27458639
it's a parody of what right wingers view as liberal
>>27458802
>this mad
wow just wwoww
>>27458805
>also liberals are a majorly white demographic
Kek, maybe
That's only because there's more white people (1st world of course)
A higher percentage of minorities (per population) are left-wing leaning. Literally everybody knows this, and you're either blatantly lying or are being disingenuous because you don't understand facts
This conversation is over because I don't speak to liars
>>27458802
>>27458840
Now we know who's behind this entire thread.
>>27458681
who said anyone was trying to convert you?
it's a perfect summary of modern leftism, stay mad you pathetic beta
me desu
it's actually ruined some of the friendships i had with people from here
i've gotten into political debates with 3 online friends from 4chan who were avid /pol/ posters and wound up BTFOing them so hard they stopped talking to me. literally every time they were confronted with stuff they couldn't refute (studies, statistics, historical examples etc.) they would just start memeing and then start saying stuff like "dude whatever just drop it" (i.e. "i got BTFO and now i want to pretend it didn't happen"). it's kind of funny, for people who pretend to be chauvinistic right wing manly men it turns out most /pol/ posters are incredibly insecure and being faced with the reality that they can't intelligently defend their political opinions seriously fucks with their egos.
>>27458778
his summary of leftist psychology is spot on perfect though
>>27458926
>everything I agree with is fact
/pol/turds are THIS fucking stupid.
>>27458862
>40% of whites in the US
>not a major chunk of population
take it easy buddy, crack open a monster or take a step outside, you've clearly been rageposting too long.
If you mean liberalism in the classic sense I am mostly liberal. Within the american political structure I am probably a libertarian.
>>27458984
it's a critically assessed paper, by someone who was accepted into Harvard at age 15, I'd trust it over some cuck on the internet's opinion
>>27459019
I agree to an extent, but in the US right now, libertarianism is broken as fuck and really just means a corporate free for all.
All I want is a system where people can do what they want as long as it doesn't fuck anybody else over, where the government doesn't fall over themselves to suck corporate and rich cock while fucking normal people in the ass, and where reasonable tax rates let the government provide basic services that result in a healthy and educated populace so we don't turn into a 3rd world country.
Sadly, one side just wants to let the whole fucking country turn into a Jesus freak corporate monopoly, and the other wants to cuck themselves nonstop and take away fun shit like guns and race cars.
>>27458926
His summary of leftist, yet you're happy to clip out the most inflammatory remarks because they suit your agenda.
Another case of /pol/acks not giving a damn about the implications of their actions and trying to start shit. Of course you don't give a damn, your entire movement is a surrogate activity.
I picked a good day to reassure myself of /pol/ and /r9k/'s inferiority to me by checking this board.
It was really funny meeting one of you at my uni; pretty damn deluded. Keep voting against your self-interest libertarians :3
>>27459125
I will savage your tight b-hole
>>27459121
his summary of leftist psychology is incomplete by his own admission*
>>27458862
>A higher percentage of minorities (per population) are left-wing leaning.
In what sense?
Left-wing and right-wing are both very broad terms. A lot of positions and ideologies get funneled under either when they don't really fit.
I'm an atheist, a nationalist, and lean towards libertarian.
Many non-white populations are left-wing only in their support of socialist policies, but otherwise are culturally far more conservative than whites.
>>27459053
>I trust the words of an ISIS-tier psycho.
Is this the cuck fetish thread?
>>27459138
To me it seems like it could be true, but I won't pretend to know the mind of anyone and I'm sure many people might support the same political causes for different reasons.
>>27459138
he was emotionally unstable, mainly due to some psychological experiments done to him as a young teenager, but from a purely intellectual perspective, his paper is very well regarded, many universities host copies of his manifesto on their websites for people to view
it's just his methods of trying to bring attention to his cause that were insane
>>27458992
You are purposefully misunderstanding my pistsm or you're possibly retarded, which is okay, I understand
What I was saying was a higher percentage of minorities are democrat/left leaning
If you keep purposefully lying about my posts or purposefully lying about minority political affiliations then you're just a complete liar, and it would be better if you were shot in the street with the rest of the people who knowingly lie, just like you do
>>27459267
Do you think members of the Democrat party should be shot for deliberately aiding the government and businesses in allowing in millions and millions of illegal immigrants, who would birth legal children, to grow the hispanic population in America and thus expand the Democrat Party's voter base?
To me this seems disingenuous.
>>27459267
*post
xn fur ht
>>27459053
it reads like any random long post on /pol/
he was a mathematician, not a philosopher
I don't necessarily disagree with it, but it's not an illuminating or eloquent analysis.
>>27459267
holding in this much asspain can't be good for your blood pressure.
>>27458915
There's not a single statistic on the planet that proves any of the lefts policies to be correct.
>>27459294
Only if members of the Republican party will also be shot for gerrymandering (changing the voting districts) to guarantee themselves votes in many areas in which the majority doesn't actually support them.
>>27459294
What seems disingenuous?
You're very clearly appealing to no morals or political benefits except one race of people. How is that not the most racist and prejudiced idea of all time?
Explain to me why Mexicans should be allowed into the United Statess. How do Mexicans benefit the United States?
>>27459324
Good one XD
nice argument XD
You sure did convince me
Your political ideology is truly revolutionary XD
/pol/ is the shame of the right.
>>27459352
immigrants do grueling work, for long hours, at irregular seasonal intervals, often for minimum wage, and constantly on the move. their work keeps the price of our food low.
or take into account the concept of indentured servitude. immigrants coming to this country to bust their ass in the hopes that they would be able to start a life is as old as this nation itself.
>>27459460
>>27459091
Wrong thread, Sholomo Goldbergstein
>>27458555
"Libtads don't understand economics!"
-Conservatives, most likely in one of the poorest states.
>>27459523
>our states are poor because niggers
>>27459352
>You're very clearly appealing to no morals or political benefits except one race of people.
I do not see how protecting the demographics of the native population, much less the language and culture, is a lack of morals.
I think national sovereignty is important. As was implied by my post I think deliberately changing the demographics for political reasons is very underhanded.
>Explain to me why Mexicans should be allowed into the United Statess.
They shouldn't be, at least not in the massive numbers that they have been. Massive, uncontrolled numbers which also allows violent criminals and their associated organizations in as well.
>How do Mexicans benefit the United States?
They benefit some industries and perhaps even consumers via' providing cheap labor. However I feel the long term demographic and cultural cost is too high. Over time parts of the United States are turning into Mexico with many of the same social ills Mexico suffers from and on top of that such a large influx of immigrants means they have no pressure to assimilate which creates friction between they and the native populations. Sometimes violent conflict such is the case of Los Angeles and the black neighborhoods being taken over my hispanics who push the blacks out.
As well, when you have two different populations speaking two separate languages social unity on the local, state, and eventually national level breaks down.
>>27459539
>Kentucky
>The third poorest state in the US
>92% white
>>27459523
left-wing economic policies have fucked the states that adopted them, to the advantage of red states
t michigan native in tennessee
>>27458555
Using labels for politics is worse than using labels for sexuality. It's like you're purposely trying to be dumb by condensing the whole of your human experience down to one word. Even politically, this means nothing. So many people will share your label, but not your experience or opinions, yet you're supposed to believe you're the same because what? You both used the same word to describe yourself? Hahahahahahahahabahaba.
>leftists tend to hate anything that has an image of being strong, good, and successful
>they hate America
no
>they hate Western civilization
no
>they hate white males
no
>they hate rationality
no
>they say they hate the West because...
irrelevant, I don't hate the West
This is a strawman of the highest degree.
>>27459576
>lel strawman!!
>votes for foreigners to come in and wreck shit
wew lad
>>27458915
so they BTFO'd your cuck ass, literally to the point of tears IRL, and since your political leanings are objectively inferior everyone laughed at you and you lashed out. Gotcha.
>>27459315
>but it's not an illuminating or eloquent analysis
hahahaha
Yes, that's why so many universities host the paper and it's critically acclaimed. But yes, I'm sure you are an expert.........hahaha
>>27459620
>universities host the paper to give insight into the mind of a psychopathic terrorist
>/pol/ dumbfucks think it's some kind of political treatise
OH I am laffin
>>27459620
I don't know or care who hosts it. I know what it reads like, a dumb rant.
>>27459343
hasn't the conversation shifted around ted kazynsky? by his standard, no economic progress is good. the best thing we could do right now is drop the industrial machine, watch inflation skyrocket and the economic system collapse.
while i don't agree with his final works i think that it is more important to have a widespread system of education in order to show people that our current industrial system is by no means perfect. leftism has been hijacked as a means to keep people in bondage to the very technological dependencies (entertainment, drugs, shipments of goods) that make our life and identities possible, for this reason I find no faults in his argument.
>>27459659
of course you are, you are a dumb cuck
>>27459664
because you don't agree with it, LEL
>>27459593
They don't understand
They want to watch the world burn, so they encourage cartel shills to come into the country
Him
>b-but muh equal rights
Kek
>>27459934
>leftists hate successful people
wow so insightful and brilliant
I'm going to build my entire worldview around this rich philosophical principle
>>27458664
Molyjew is a bad example. For anything,
who else /conservativeleft/ here
If you aren't a 3rd world rapist or welfare guzzling dindu, you are literally getting politcally and financially cucked by voting liberals
>>27458620
fascism is right wing.
in socialism, the state takes your factory and puts a bullet in your head. (or just takes it and let you go, whatever.)
in fascism, the state takes over the levers of control for the factory, but you get to keep ownership - you're just reduced to a manager.
orwell is pretty good on this.
>>27458596
this chart is still pretty flawed though, for example "nationalism" trending authoritarian is pretty dubious in places like scotland or catalonia where the nationalists largely just want self-determination for their state, as opposed to being expansionist nationalist types.
>>27460475
what if you're white and under the poverty threshhold?
>>27458652
>deep inside he feels like a loser
Wow, all that buildup for a shitty ad-hom.
The other end has a grouping of "leftist" so widespread as to be meaningless. It's like accusing "Americans" of being hypocrites because some support the invasion of Iraq and others don't.
>>27459343
Excessive inequality negatively affects economic growth.
>>27459620
universities host copies of shitty old tabloids from the 1920s, it's hardly some high honor.
>>27458555
I'm a proud progressive, left wing evironmentalist. Liberal has a different meaning in europe than in america, so dunno if i am one.
>>27461483
Sounds like the American left to me. But sadly, there no /real/ left wing party. The Democrats are just bought and sold shills who aren't even progressive
>old people will vote them in until we're the old people
