>you will never live in a hunter gatherer village
>you will never help hunt a mammoth and bring the food back to the tribe
>you will never go on a spirit journey (drug trip) with the shaman
>you will never walk around smelling like shit and being half naked and no one caring about it
>you will never feel free to go anywhere, sleeping anywhere you like and being allowed to defend yourself with spear and bow+arrows
Tell me again why civilization exists? It seems the only ones who benefit from civilization are those who are already at the top.
>>27438129
Go back to play far cry, you have high school tomorrow
>>27438129
Civilization is basically sacrificing the enjoyment of life for the advancement of the race as a whole.
>>27438129
I know that feel OP. Maybe with virtual reality we'll get to know this soon enough.
Imagine if you went out to a local park, took your clothes off, built a tent out of the tanned skins of various animals, cut down a tree and made a bonfire and no one would think it even slightly odd. Now that is freedom.
>>27438129
yeah, agriculture was the worst thing for humans. there's a ted talk on how modern civilization is the reason for the depression epidemic, because we eat like shit, don't go outside, don't exercise, and our paleo bros dd and they were never depressed. civilization has caused wars, increased gender inequality, disease, and a decrease in human health.
>>27438148
Define "advancement".originalblox
>>27438129
yeah but then you get raided by a different village and all your wounds get infected
>>27438198
who cares
"but muh life span"
a good life that lasts 20-30 years is much better than 80 years of a shitty life
>>27438187
Well we went from cave dwellers to planting flags on the moon and satellites around planets of our solar system, rovers on mars etc etc, I'd say that's advancement objectively speaking at least, of course a lot of people don't like this advancement of our race because it makes us slaves to a system.
>>27438187
iPhones to play angry birds
Selfies
>>27438129
I'll take the penicillin and the airplanes and the internet and secure food supply and ultra-potent weed, thanks.
I'm totally down to build a preserve for people like you somewhere, though, would be super cool to be able to watch you guys get exiled from the tribe by Chad on a hidden webcam from the warmth and safety of my home.
>>27438187
potato chips and online pornography
>>27438198
Yes now you can live to 100 years old with alzheimer's disease and severe dementia and rot in a bed for 30 years shitting in diapers and fed by tubes
Such advance, very tech
Please visit a retirement home or a hospital before stroking your fedoric boner
>>27438245
I doubt you could have chads in tribal settings where everyone relies on each other to stay alive. From documentaries I've seen of native tribes who still exist today, most don't seem to have a hierarchy and they are treated fairly equally.
>>27438129
The biggest fuckup of civilization is when we decided that parents shouldnt arrange marriages for their kids.
>>27438245
>would be super cool to be able to watch you guys get exiled from the tribe by Chad on a hidden webcam from the warmth and safety of my home
What if we finally kill Chad and reclaim all the females, would you watch that too?
>>27438270
quality of life in 2016 > quality of life at any other time
>>27438323
Yes which is why we have record suicide rates and can't stop swallowing antidepressants and anxiolytics.
I shouldn't exist but thanks to modern medicide I do and I'm diseased as fuck and suffer.
So here you all are bitching about agrarian society on your favorite forum and only social haven which is only possible because of the technology created by the agrarian society that you abstain from.
Just genocide all robots and distribute the resources accordingly.
>>27438308
>implying everyone wouldn't just run off of their wedding day
>>27438391
you're spending your time sick on your computer, instead of just staring out the opening of your tent for hours on end.
chin up anon.
>>27438309
I'm not 100% confident you'll get a whole lot of females to sign up, but sure, sounds like legal rape porn to me.
>you will never feel free to go anywhere, sleeping anywhere you like and being allowed to defend yourself with spear and bow+arrows
you can, its called being homeless
>>27438448
worked fine for a couple thousand years
what makes you think it would instantly fail en masse
>>27438408
Why won't you euthanize me? Why isn't assisted suicide legal everywhere already? I thought we were an avanced and intelligent species.
As long as it's a native American like tribe and not some degenerate shit like those in Africa who drink cow period blood and urine
>>27438496
millennials are too individualistic to let their parents decide anything for them
>>27438543
White people once lived in tribes too, Anon.
>>27438545
yes, as a result of the change we are discussing
no change, no individualistic teenagers
you are basically saying X was never possible by pointing out the implications of X not existing
>>27438225
I've heard that if you survived childhood, you were likely to get to old age. Infant death brings down the average lifespan of our ancestors.
>>27438174
>civilization has caused disease and decreased human health
>>27438582
were you not talking about reinstating arranged marriages?
>>27438391
Find me the suicide stats for the year 2000 BC.
>>27438667
Yes it has considering that disease is spread in farming areas due to all the disease carrying animals.
>>27438693
i was saying that moving away from them was a mistake
>>27438460
>you're spending your time sick on your computer, instead of just staring out the opening of your tent for hours on end.
think long and hard about which of those is better
>>27438738
being on my computer lmfao
>>27438667
But it did, faggot. Our shitty food and polluted air and water, nuclear tests in high atmosphere, pesticides, all this shit causes diseases.
>>27438746
>think long and hard
>replies 10 seconds later
>>27438323
>quality of life in 2016 > quality of life at any other time
not true
savage:
>live twenty years but spend it hunting and fucking with tons of free time
modern person:
>live eighty years but spend it wageslaving away with little free time
>>27438779
including "think long and hard" in your question doesn't automatically make the question worth mulling over
>>27438784
On topic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_affluent_society
>>27438129
So I can lie in my bed eating candy and lurking your shit thread
>>27438824
this philosophy really is true
when you only hunt and gather for what food you need immediately, you have tons of free time with no threat to your livelihood, which is one of the definitions of affluence
Holy shit what's wrong with you people?
How can you honestly believe people in tribes had it better?
>>27438877
because romanticizing something is incredibly easy.
>>27438877
>>27438892
maybe you both should entertain the thought and study some anthropology, instead of taking the blue pill of "society is as great as it ever has been"
>>27438877
i doubt they had as many depressed people
>>27438915
they had a lot more angry people iirc
>>27438694
One. Robotystos jumped off of a cliff when Staceylia cucked him.
>>27438693
>>27438545
>>27438448
hey fuck you for wasting that guy's time. everyone else got it. BOOOOOO!
>>27438408
See the true face of a socialist, they will kill anyone who's an obstacle to them and will feel no remorse over the lives they have taken
If nuclear war did happen, would it be possible to default back to those hunter gatherer comfy days? Or would the world be way too sucky for that.
>>27439100
Checked
>live in hunter gatherer village
>time for the daily hunt
>see some deer
>the tribe has to eat
>run after it for 8 hours
>it collapses from exhaustion
>smash it's skull in with some stone
>cut it up on the spot
>put some meat in bag
>walk another 10 hours to the village
>find that a pack of wolves have killed literally half the population
>your entire family and wife are gone
just another Tuesday in the bush
>>27438877
>>27438892
>Muh ipod and my burgers are the greatest achievements on mankind.
>We should be happy to live in a individualistic society that has no meaningful goal or a worthy cause
The survival of your peers it's a better cause than mindless hedonism
>>27438129
i thought i was the only one with these survival feelio cheerios
>>27439145
>t. a person who has never hunted before
>>27439145
wolves don't attack groups of armed people dumbass
>>27439178
>what is persistence hunting
>>27439152
I can't really tell if you're shitposting or not, someone help.
>>27438129
sorry the easter chocolate is making you feel like shit
exercise exists you know
the world exists beyond your computer too
outside is a nice place still
you don't need to be sad if you are a happy person
>>27439221
>outside is a nice place still
Not when greedy jews have bought up all the good land and any place you can go to enjoy nature is flocked with unfamiliar strange people doing the same.
>>27439221
>you don't need to be sad if you are a happy person
what did anon mean by this?
>>27438129
Tfw you will never be burned alive
>>27438482
homelessness only exists because
of the government
our ancestors could build a shelter for themselves but now you need a building permit, buy land, etc
>forclosed mansions sit empty while people sleep in the street
>>27439322
everyone has the ability to be happy
some people can't utilize it
there's no need to be sad if you can be happy
some people like sadness
the unhappiest people are those who think of themselves as sad
>>27438714
>>27438768
You still had diseases without civilization. The difference is that with civilization, medicine has progressed and you're on average healthier now than you were back then.
>>27439714
A funny thing happened in South America. A native tribe was forced into society because of the logging. The UN provided food for the natives and they started dying. The problem was that their bodies couldn't handle all the processed garbage chemical laden food that they were fed but which is fine for us Westerners. You might think that we're healthier now because we have chemicals, but those same chemicals are what's killing us and giving us cancer. Last I checked there is no cure for cancer.
>>27438877
I'd rather live in what OP talked about than do some shitty 9-5 job until you retire or die
>>27439220
You know what i'm talking about, the current lifestyle is an empty husk
>>27438129
>you will never live in a hunter gatherer village
Give it a decade. Or simply move to Africa.
>>27438129
>free to go to anywhere
>get eaten by wolves because you were travelling alone
retard
Hello OP, I used to be an Anarcho-Primitivist and will tear your viewpoint down piece by piece, would you like me to?
>>27438187
pizza and vidya
>>27440254
You do that. I'll just be sleeping. Try to get validation when the threads dead and archived and I check it in the morning. Traitor.
You might like this channel, OP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCKkHqlx9dE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P73REgj-3UE
Comfy as fuck to watch him goin' at it
>>27440309
Well, I'll type out a few things I suppose.
First of all, you need to realize that tribes are constantly warring with each other, and as they make technological advancements, the other tribes need to advance also or be wiped out. So that automatically means that your primitive tribes are not an infinite way of life.
Also, you need to read this
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/ted-kaczynski-the-truth-about-primitive-life-a-critique-of-anarchoprimitivism
Ave Europa
Another nice chart to debunk your bullshit ideology.
>>27439860
Check again. It always happens between the last time you check and the time you start spouting off like a know-it-all about how it hasn't happened.
>>27438784
Maybe there's a happy medium between caveman and corporate wagecuck
>you'll never live that happy peasant life
I get that working 9-5 and having little freedom isnt as great as it could be, but if you really think you wouldnt be working all the time 2000 years ago youre fucking retarded
Life is suffering, no matter what time period
sweet innocent anon,
civilization exists to serve women at the expense of men.
>>27438187
That is a difficult word to define without using a perfect synonym
>>27440329
Funny how wealthy you must have to be to live a primitive life. This guy has to have enough made money to purchase the land necessary to do this plus have the time to do all this. At his age, probably inheritance.
>>27438187
We make ourselves more capable than our ancestors. This is to say we can do anything they could have and more, or at least virtually everything.
>>27439860
Those "chemicals" in the food you are talking about may actually be pathogens, if it isn't please post your sources.
>>27438129
Civilization are great it brought us toilet paper. Before that people could never relieved that itch booty feel
>>27438187
>endless servitude
>degraded neural pathways
>language based mind-control
>>27439470
are people dead if they are killed?
>>27441694
he's doing it in his backyard, he has a neighbor living like 10 minutes from that place
>>27443026
>You could impress others with your shitting technique, nowadays you're too shy to buy a toilet paper if there's a woman behind the counter.
>>27438129
>you will never live in a hunter gatherer village
It sucks and you would probably suck at it.
>you will never go on a spirit journey (drug trip) with the shaman
New agers do that shit all the time.
>you will never feel free to go anywhere, sleeping anywhere you like and being allowed to defend yourself with spear and bow+arrows
The first two were never actually true. There were always limits on where you could go and sleep, just for different reasons then now days.
As for the last one, move to a non shit country will reasonable self defense laws and you can totally legally defend yourself and your property with a spear or bow and arrows.
Fuck that stupid primitive shit
>I will never be a space pirate
>I will never sell people to slavers
>I will never do bait and switches by turning off stabilizers, powering down engines and masking weapon power
>I will never try to get friends in the government to help me out (but secretly using them to rob them)
>I will never go on foolhardy coordinated raids to attack armed government vessels and hold the passengers and crew for ransom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O42jzdkPPwo&list=PLaP6jbqNUfjCbqmuJyXql2nCxbaVTWrzx&index=9
>>27443866
>>I will never be a space pirate
Watch out for Galaxy Police!
https://youtu.be/iFPH0l_9agw
>be inuit
>grandpa tells me about his grandpa's life and how much everything sucked
>we laugh at white hippies who ACTUALLY think a brutal stone age life is attractive
I think I'll keep my central heating, indoor plumbing, pizza bagels, animu figures, internet, cars, snowmobiles, and medicine thanks
>you will never tell the elders that you feel like a girl inside and then be made high priestess and then get to tell fortunes and bring luck and prosperity to the village through blowjobs
Even being a tranny was way better in ancient times
