Depression never goes away. It just temporarily fades and then comes back.
It never "gets better".
>>27424154
Fuck off. FUCK OFF. FUCKYOUFUCKYOUFUCKYOUFUCKYOUFUCKYOUFUCKYOUFUCKYOU
That's why I'm killing myself soon.
>>27424263
Method?
That's what I expected with clinical depression
cucks cucks cucks cucks
Cucky corn
Cucky duck
Cuck be a lady tonight
Cuckolding
c u c k o l d i n g
>>27424321
Jumping off a bridge.
Depression isn't real. You aren't real.
>>27424154
Bruh I kicked my own ass to stay busy all the time.
Now that I don't have time to wallow in my sorrow I feel better.
Also getting more natural light and physical exercise made me feel like less of a waste of life.
Eat clean too bruh.
>>27424393
I do still feel like shit a bunch of the time, but usually I'm so exhausted that I can just sleep until I have more shit to do
>>27424154
I know that feel. Honestly though everything is temporary. Except death maybe. Who knows.
>tfw it never fades away anymore no matter what you do
>>27424499
Well just looking at the universe it seems that life is the anomaly. Perhaps death is the natural state and every so often the universe and its chemicals align to allow the oddity that we call life?
Oldfag (27) here. Diagnosed with major depressive disorder and social anxiety disorder when I was 13, seen 20+ doctors in the past 14 years, been on nearly every medication. It honestly doesn't ever get any better. Nothing helps.
Depression is one of three things:
1. A woman who wishes that Chad were currently holding her arms behind her back and shoving his unlubed dick into her ass in the men's room of a dirty bar while he photographs her and posts the pictures on facebook.
2. Chad relaxing his mind enough to have a slight melancholic moment where he remembers the women he's fucked and sighs due to the fact it will be mere hours before he is once again ripping up a 17 year old's virgin pussy who will later go off and find the most efficient way to lie about getting an abortion.
3. True depression felt by any male not born a Chad.
>>27424613
not even DMT?
>>27424613
giles corey?
With me it's more anxiety. Every little thing can make me anxious and overwhelmed.
It does get better. But you have to try to get better, focus on the things you enjoy, exercise, form friendships with other people. Of course if you sit on your rear and do nothing but pop pills and eat you're going to continue to feel like crap.
You hear of people getting out of depression all the time, or hear people say how they "used to be" depressed. If depression were truly incurable this would not happen.
>>27424154
Well if you get therapy and take meds, it does go away.
But if you mean beta "i don't have a girlfriend im so depressed" nonsense...then no it won't go away.
>>27424649
"My depression is so much more real because i dont have a girlfriend"
>>27424682
once you've seen the void and feel that nothing matters how can you ever unsee that? you cant go back.. you can live your life at perhaps 10% the enthusiasm and capacity as before but you'll never feel really alive again, not like before when you didnt know anything. there comes a point where every delusion is stripped away and those delusions were a protective blanket so you wouldn't feel the cold, but now you're shivering and the snow stretches for miles slowly burying you
you're felt the most joy you ever will when you were young, but there are always more horrifying truths to learn, more deeper and acute suffering to experience as you age and fall apart
It fades away. The only thing that is keeping you in the depression is yourself. You constantly keep yourself in this state, you refuse to move on, you refuse to see hope but clinge to the past, to that what hurts you, because you don't know anything else. Sometimes you just have to say fuck it. Fuck it, go explore the world, go meet and talk to people, go read a book, watch a movie, cry like a bitch, just do something. Stop keeping yourself in this state, only you can make a difference.
>>27424659
I wanna feel like I feel when I'm asleep...
I honestly even tried to find God, hoping it would somehow magically give my life meaning and make everything better.
>>27424910
for me, i don't even want to get better or go back into the world. its like that world is lost to me now, if i could go back into it i wouldn't find it worthwhile anymore..
>>27424910
>The only thing that is keeping you in the depression is yourself.
Well no shit. I'm the problem. The only way things would get better is if I was a completely different person.
>>27424154
Depression is the neutral emotion desu
>>27424958
iktfb
i was praying, watching sermons and reading bible stories. it didn't last more than a month or two, you dont get to choose what you believe..
>being all poetic about a mental illness
Depression is caused either by a suboptimal lifestyle, or as some scientists claim, a "chemical imbalance"
It's treated by lifestyle adjustments, psychotherapy or a course of drugs.
In that sense, it does go away
>"Oh, but when a man has seen the face of the void as he stands within the thunderous solitude of the raging tides of existence, how can he forget seeing the soul crushing shades of..."
Oh shut the fuck up.
You are just reaffirming the stereotype that everyone with depression are attention seekers.
Maybe stop eating like shit, stop staying up all night playing video games and watching pornography, and you can sort out the brain you fucked up.
>>27425175
kys normie bitch
>>27424613
29 here. similar experience, can confirm. some people just are not wired to be happy
>>27425175
I did that, over a period of about two years. Ate better, gave up soda, got more exercise, lost weight, went to college, got a job, parents and everyone I knew said it I was doing great. I hated life and wanted to die more than ever. None of the progress I'd made made me feel happy or proud in the slightest. It all seemed beyond pointless, just more miserable work to do to accomplish more goals that I couldn't care less about.
what now, normie?
>>27425175
>my life is fine so everyone else life must be fine
Fuck off
>>27425175
Holy shit I hate people like you, even if your post is not serious
>>27426100
> just more miserable work to do to accomplish more goals that I couldn't care less about
this
>>27425175
you dont really have a clue what you're talking about. there are tons of problems in life that just cant be fixed, you manage with it but you don't ever cure it and it changes you. i guess thats hard for a normie like you to accept
>>27426100
do you still live with your parents? that seems to be the unifying theme of all shitty lives
>>27426274
Not him, but I do still live with my parents and it sucks! I wish I could soon get away from here.
Once you hit your mid-20s you should gtfo and live by yourself, mostly for your mental health, imho.
>>27426274
While I was doing that I spent time in a dorm at college. It didn't help any. I can see where it would if you have a bad relationship with your parents, but that wasn't the case with me. There was no "Ah! I have freedom now that I don't live with mom! I feel so much better, and now there's all sorts of things I want to do!". Not at all. I felt like I did before, only there was nobody saying I had to eat dinner at 5 o'clock and I was sleeping in a strange room and a strange bed that never felt right.
>>27426260
>>27425327
>>27426100
>>27426203
>>27426244
You fuck off.
You people are always grubbing for attention.
And when you try and point this out, everyone on social media fucking dogpiles you saying "omg you are so insensitive :^( You don't understaaand. Shrek your privilege. muh chemical imbalance"
Depression isn't an illness anymore. It's fucking trendy. It's a fad to diagnose yourself as depressed.
And this thinking leads to the same thinking you see in this thread. You don't want to cure you illness, you just want to sit around in you tumblresque circlejerk shaking your fists at those mean old shitlords that call you out on your juvenile bullshit.
>>27424154
>tfw it never "gets better." But having a friend helps a little.
>>27426435
>It's a fad to diagnose yourself as depressed.
I was professionally diagnosed. First by a school psychologist in grade school, and then by an independent psychiatrist that my parents took me to on their own. over the past few decades I've been to at least two dozen therapists, counselors, psychologists, psychiatrists, social workers, and support groups. I've tried a dozen different coping techniques in addition to a half a dozen different drugs. I tried improving or changing my lifestyle in a dozen different ways. None of it did a damn thing.
fuck off with your just-world fallacies.
>>27426435
Yes, you are right, I dont want to cure it, Im too tired of everything, it doesnt matter anymore
Its true that faggots fake their 'depression' for attention, but that doesnt mean there is no such thing
>>27426435
> You don't want to cure you illness
that's the point. you care so little that living life isn't important to you anymore.. you've no idea what you're talking about
i also don't feel that what is commonly labelled depression is an "illness", i think a lot of it is just philosophical or caused by society..
>>27426512
It doesn't matter whether you are diagnosed or not.
This prevailing attitude on social media and the fact that everyone tells you what a beautiful, special snowflake has killed your motivation to change. Society is very coddling and its leading to all these problems like depression.
Yeah, you think I'm just a mean old republican with my just world fallacy.
No it's you who thinks the world should be just and then bitches when it turns out its not. I'm the realist here
I have someone I love and would dedicate my life to that person, and family.
That's how I deal with it. I've also been diagnosed with DID (though due to the nature of the issue it could practically be self diagnosed) so that sortof helps me keep going.
I have some moments where I feel but generally it's when I feel way worse, like, if knives were available they'd be used if it wasn't for the people I love. If I get close to the person I love I think maybe that can get some moments of genuine happiness. I'd be fine with an aggregate of 15 minutes for the duration of my life honestly. It's an estimate. But I've learnt to appreciate how long every second is. I'd place them for a moment once a week. That's 4 second every week assuming I live to be 83. I'm sure any of you can see the reason to be hopeful really. Because you know what being happy was like. And if you have depression you'd know that 4 second a week is clearly enough to keep you going.
Things are looking just fine robots.
>>27426785
> This prevailing attitude on social media and the fact that everyone tells you what a beautiful, special snowflake has killed your motivation to change. Society is very coddling and its leading to all these problems like depression.
you have a really poor understanding of depression, yet you claim to know everything. i dont even know why you're writing these posts or trying this hard, i guess you're angry that you can't understand our suffering yourself so you think people are making it up. you should just stop posting to be honest
>>27426785
>implying I'm on any social media
>>27424682
normie advice
>last week I was soooo depressed but I'm better now. depression CAN be cured stay strong f.am!
>>27427121
>You don't understaaaaaaand
Thanks for the meaningless canned response. But everything I said is still right.
I like to think I'm talking from experience. But I'm hesitant to talk about any rough patches I've been through because you always get a whole brigade of fuckers jumping on you screaming "BUT IT WASN'T REEEEAL DEPRESSION. ONLY MY DEPRESSION IS REAL!"
>>27427121
4chan.org is a medium for social interaction. It's social media
>>27424154
Spent the last 2 hours sitting in a warm bathtub crying or at least trying too , I just hate myself so much , from the way I look to the way I think , just sick of being me , lately I have been dealing with regrets mostly due to all the past mistakes I made and how quickly time seems to have gone by , 29 years old neet with no friends , no education and no family , I am so jealous of successful females and how they seem so well looked after and happy , my only friends are my dog and my mum , as soon as they both die I am going to join them , what's a not so painful way to die ?
>>27427233
>I like to think I'm talking from experience. But I'm hesitant to talk about any rough patches I've been through because you always get a whole brigade of fuckers jumping on you screaming "BUT IT WASN'T REEEEAL DEPRESSION. ONLY MY DEPRESSION IS REAL!"
Some people have mild depression, which responds to medication, therapy, a lifestyle change, or goes away on it's own. Some people have severe depression that is persistent and responds to none of these things. Gee, who woulda though.
>>27427233
> But everything I said is still right
except your descriptions of depression and how its caused are completely off
> I'm hesitant to talk about any rough patches I've been through because you always get a whole brigade of fuckers jumping on you screaming "BUT IT WASN'T REEEEAL DEPRESSION. ONLY MY DEPRESSION IS REAL!"
well yeah. its obvious you don't have depression, if you'd had it you wouldn't write half the dumb shit you've already wrote and you'd empathise with the anons in this thread. instead its pretty clear you're just a sad cunt whos come into the thread trying to feel superior to people and "win" one over on them. good for you
>>27427251
> crying or at least trying to
> I just hate myself so much ..the way I think , just sick of being me
iktfb
i had a patch inbetween meds when i could cry and it felt so good like it was healthy, back to being numb now though. bottling up the sads..
>>27427376
>>27427319
Why has this major depression epidemic suddenly shown up in recent years, when it was almost unheard of 100 years ago? It seems to be a problem with society.
And do you really think a lifestyle change wouldn't help? I'm looking at a lot of posts on this board, and it seems most of the "depression" comes from not having friends and a sex life.
If you can't get friends or a gf, then that sucks. But its obvious you don't really have depression. You are just sad because you are lonely.
If somehow you do manage to get freinds and a gf and you are still sad, then you can say you are truly depressed.
>>27426888
>That's 4 second every week
That's a pretty deep depression if that's enough for you. Wow man. Hope you get better.
>>27427592
>Why has this major depression epidemic suddenly shown up in recent years, when it was almost unheard of 100 years ago? It seems to be a problem with society.
Because nowadays people are more likely to tell someone instead of hiding it?
>And do you really think a lifestyle change wouldn't help?
It does help for some people. If it does, great. Sure as hell doesn't work for everyone though.
>it seems most of the "depression" comes from not having friends and a sex life.
>If you can't get friends or a gf, then that sucks. But its obvious you don't really have depression. You are just sad because you are lonely.
Common reason, not the only reason. And I'd say you're wrong, being lonely for a long time can certainly make you depressed. Ask any shrink - social isolation, especially growing up, is one of the big risk factors for it.
>>27424658
Since when was Dmt a full-fledged meme...? Wow, I never though that'd happen. Like ayahuasca is a meme, yes, but you are certainly referring to vaporized Dmt. Is terrence McKenna to blame for this?!?!?
>>27427766
Do you have friends? Do you have an active sex life?
If not, then how do you know that your sadness is caused by "depression" instea of the unfortunate circumstances you find yourself in?
Yes, social isolation is a risk factor for depression, because depression is caused by a shitty lifestyle.
Why do you need to ascribe your sadness to some wierd, ill defined unchangable factor? Why not just say you are lonely?
>>27424154
People tend to overthink the human psyche.
What actually helps is to fake being happy to distract you from yourself. Your depression is real but you can manipulate the human psyche.
You have to realise that the current psych treatments are just based of theories that obviously dont work on everyone. Suicide rates are steadily increasing etc.
Even old nutjobs like freud are almost considered factual today. Its almost frowned upon to find a cure if it doesnt follow a theory from the 1800s.
Fake being happy.
Dont dig deeper into why.
Just fake it, force yourself to laugh when you dont feel it at all. Tell yourself you like things. Tell yourself that you are happy.
You can break the downward spiral of depression. Depression is not just in your head its chemically infested in your brain. Your dopamine receptors have been fucked.
Thats why you are going to fake it and fool your primal brain. You can outsmart it.
And no i dont have any basis of my claims. I studied psycology myself.
>>27427592
>>27427982
m8 you are one sad cunt. im tempted to think your b8ing but youve put so much effort in i think you're actually this retarded. you're quizzing anons on r9k in a depression thread and saying theyre not depressed then say a bunch of shit which alludes to you not even knowing what depression is or about, then claim you had depression and cured it. you're a complete idiot and an absolute tool. these levels of retardation are rare even for r9k, i would go thru ur dumb points and btfo them out but i know you wont even understand and just write another post filled with retardation
kill yourself please
>>27427982
I do have friends, both online and off. I'm not sexually active now, but I'm not a KV either, I have had >tfw gf. Didn't help. I feel like a fraud all the time, and wonder how someone can possibly like me, even when they actually do.
>Why do you need to ascribe your sadness to some wierd, ill defined unchangable factor?
because at least for me, I've been depressed for literally as long as I've had the self-awareness to even think about how I felt. Friends, schools, jobs, medications, therapists, dozens of them have come and gone, and I still feel the same. At some point you have to realize that some things are baked in to who you are. Believe me, I fought it. I fought it for two decades. Haven't gotten anywhere.
Is it the case that a lot of people on /r9k/ *are* "just lonely"? Yes, I'm sure of it. that doesn't preclude the existence of people with problems that go deeper than just having the blues because some girl won't talk to them.
>>27426435
>>27425175
oh it's this part of the depression thread again
>>27424374
Nah m8 just inhale helium no pain
>>27428154
Fucking listen to yourself. You sound like the thousands of other depressives on social media with their tired canned responses and general attention whoring attitude. You are not special. You are just a living cliche
I'm not the one causing the downfall of society. It's you. With your typical attitude of thinking you are deep and soulful when you are really another vapid, shallow attention grubber.
You're a cartoon, mate
>>27425175
>>"Oh, but when a man has seen the face of the void as he stands within the thunderous solitude of the raging tides of existence, how can he forget seeing the soul crushing shades of..."
>Oh shut the fuck up.
but it does permanently damage your brain
also medication and therapy don't help much
>>27428332
i love that you keep saying people are attention whoring, yet you specifically came into a depression thread to spout a contrarian opinion, then you say if you mentioned your problems people would say you "didn't have real depression", yet that's exactly what you're saying to anons in here..
you are fucking pathetic. i rarely say that on r9k, but i really mean it for you. sort yourself out you sad prick.
>>27428233
When you said you were sad when you had a girlfriend, you admitted that it was because of your low self esteem.
Not depression. Just your shit self esteem.
And that whole "it's baked into who you are" is the exact mentality I'm railing against. It's the attitude that causes this mess. And its the one prevailing these days. In the past, people were more willing to accept responsibility. But kids today aren't. And that's why every day, you see thousands of tired posts of millenials saying the exact same thing you are
>>27428527
Awesome. The whole "safe space" attitude.
>I can't believe you came here to criticise me instead of feeling sorry for me reeeee
You really are a cartoon.
The archetypical millenial
>>27428536
> claims hes trying to help
> rose tinted view of the past
> complains about millennials
> absurd idea of what causes depression with no evidence
> muh social media
retard bingo tbqh
I hate depressed people
you guys are the worst, please end your existences
>>27429604
>this obvious projection of your own depression and suicidal ideation
mentally healthy people don't say shit like this you utter retard
>>27424154
>le depression meme
it's not a chemical imbalance causing sadness
it's sadness causing chemical imbalance
it'll go away once you stop longing for attention
that or you can kill yourself
your choice op
im out
>>27424154
Problems like depression in life are all like this. They are like a boomerang, no matter how hard you throw it it comes back.
>>27427982
You really don't understand what depression is, and you keep getting cause and effect mixed up. Depression isn't caused by something, it's an illness that can effect anyone, sapping them of their energy and motivation. They're not necessarily sad, they just don't see the point in life anymore.
People who get depression are likely to stop going outside entirely, alienating their friends and family and killing their social life. The reason they can't just do a lifestyle change is because they lack the motivation to, even if they can acknowledge their life would be so much better if they did it they can't bring themselves to put the effort in, because they have depression. It's a disease that prevents its victim from seeking treatment.
I'm sure you'll just brush my post off as more attention seeking though, you've already proven you have no interest in changing your opinion and are happy being willfully ignorant on what depression is.
>tfw my entire existence was doomed from the start
>there was nothing i could have done as a kid to prevent this
i just don't want to be alone. if i become alone i have no reason to exist anymore.
>>27431063
Yeah, well, like I said, if there was no outside factor that influenced depression, why has there been a spike in the cases of depression?
And I'm talking about the kind of depression that drains your motivation. Not the kind you can easily hide.
I'm sure santitarium records show one or two cases out of a million. Not nearly as common as it is today.
Something happened. Something in society changed, because, as far as I know, chemical imbalances aren't contagious.
My argument is that the way society treats depression is causing it to become more widespread
