Now that we have more gays the fat cats can make stuff for gays only and charge more, like gay clothing brands. Capitalism is about selling stuff, not about what you shove up your ass.

And you say "capitalism is bad for transgender" as if communism was a gay rich culture. Read some books kiddo.

>>27389031
You totally missed the point of my post. I didn't say anything about LGBT people. But while we're on the subject, anyone should be concerned that Disney has enough political clout to influence legislature, even if we agree with the outcomes.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/03/24/disney-marvel-threaten-to-pull-business-from-georgia-over-religious-liberty-bill/

LGBT people didn't want to become accepted so corporations could profit off them.

>>27389031
>And you say "capitalism is bad for transgender" as if communism was a gay rich culture
Isn't this the definition of a false dilemma? OP wasn't advocating for communism. And even if they were, there are plenty of capitalist countries that oppress gay people. And plenty of communist countries that don't.

In my whole life I have never met an actually masculine male.

You don't know what you are talking about you anime addled eunuch

>>27389146
Epic evidence anon, you sure proved OP wrong with all those facts!

>>27389146
I've met plenty. They're quite affectionate.

>>27389714
Should mention that they're like that in a non-gay, slightly homo-erotic, way.

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>>27388788
You cracked the code, Anon. First time I've seen somebody who really gets it.

The robots get angry at women on this board as if women are completely organized and have this master plan to screw them over. Nope, women are just humans and humans are pretty much animals; we respond to whatever conditioning is forced upon us and women are conditioned to act the way they do by the media. Whenever I hear a robot complain about how fucked up women can be I see a masked cry for change or help. You have every right to be mad at them but don't expect your anger to amount to anything.

I'll take it a step further though. The media pushes this image BECAUSE IT SELLS. It's not like there's one person or even a group of people at the top that decided society should be this way. We all decided it should be this way, perhaps not consciously but we fuel the fires that burn our souls. It's a terrifying thought to think that not a single entity can be blamed for all the problems we see because most people can't see the big picture.

>>27388788
>you blame random women who are just as powerless against this propaganda as you
It's called female nature you fucking idiot.
Corporations have no control over what women want, because what women want and have been sexually selecting males for, has been going on for thousands of years before the concept of trade and barter existed.

Get
the
fuck
out
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blue
pilled
faggot

Now keep going and start to understand how so many power dynamics in our society are perpetuated by those in (financial) power.

Attain class consciousness. Realize socialism is the only way. No social justice without economic justice.

>>27389828

>corporations have no control over what women want

are you fucking retarded?

>>27389846
Are YOU fucking retarded?
What to women buy, anon?

>>27389846
He's right. Corporations just use our nature against us. They can't create behaviors out of thin air.

no, women are shit by nature. the media isn't brainwashing them into being shit, they're just pandering to what they already want

>>27389868

Things they are told will make them desirable.
This isn't incompatible with OP's reasoning. Fits right into it actually.

Especially when you realize that there are a whole lot of women spending a whole lot of money on makeup, clothes, etc that men don't like and they want for themselves "to feel good about themselves." Who tells them what looks good? Corporations. I highly doubt they buy on-trend shit because men like it. Men don't know shit about it and constantly complain about trends women like.

>>27389875

Using our nature against us =/= no control whatsoever. When it comes to women's shit, corporations have manufactured all kinds of demand and wants and needs and whole fucking products women didn't come out of the jungle wanting. Of course corporations take advantage, but they use it to gain control.

>>27389875
>They can't create behaviors out of thin air.
Anon is probably a blue pilled faggot afraid of evolutionary psychology so he'd rather think that some big bad spooky socio-political hierarchy is pulling the strings of mankind and not the things in out chromosomes.

>>27389896
>Things they are told will make them desirable.
No, men buy products for this reason.
Women buy things for status and socialisation.

>Especially when you realize that there are a whole lot of women spending a whole lot of money on makeup, clothes, etc that men don't like and they want for themselves "to feel good about themselves."
If you think women buy these things to make them feel good about themselves you are fucking naive.
>Who tells them what looks good? Corporations.
Wrong. It's other women. It always has been. Women shape the market, not the other way around.

>>27389925
>Women shape the market, not the other way around

A thousand times this. Women want bad boys so you have men acting like dicks. On the multiple occasions I asked friends and even my old man on why they act like that, the one solid answer I get is because it works.
Corporations don't sell you an ideal partner, women choose that. Just as women have decided that they want fags in skinny jeans, lip piercings and eyeliner, that's what men went into.

Don't act like corporations rule over everything. Such monolithic franchises are relatively new in society. Women having the power over sex has been around since the conception of humanity. It's the society we've built up for thousands of years that tell us what women want matters more than what men want...at least it did before everything became modern. Now women have more power and men have less because the key role men played can be replaced by government aid, their own careers, or...begging for money on the Internet while having nothing to offer except digital images of themselves naked. If even that.

>>27388788
>implying

but i'm already well aware of all of that, OP.

>>27389875
For instance, there is such thing like "mother's instinct" which is about mothers wanting to care and cherish their children. The truth is, before XX century almost nobody tried to raise their children. Poor people just let them grow as they want until they reached an age suitable for working. Rich people hired caretakers so that children won't distract them from important stuff. But in the XX century this "instinct" suddenly appeared. And a lot of stuff for looking after a baby also appeared on the market. Is it a coincidence?

>>27389999
>Women want bad boys so you have men acting like dicks.
Then explain why everyone on this board is a permavirgin neckbeard. By your logic, the typical robot should be rolling in pussy

>>27389999
The female of the species controls sexual selection and determines the state of our genepool, so I find it strange when anons like OP seem to forget that hundreds of thousands of years of sexual selection and instilled human nature shaped around successful breeding wouldn't have a huge run-on with the rest of human societies.

>>27390039
I suggest you look up what proximate and distal causes are, anon. You don't seem to understand biology.
>The truth is, before XX century almost nobody tried to raise their children. Poor people just let them grow as they want until they reached an age suitable for working.
Think long and hard about what you've just implied. You're implied that a species which has only has an average lifespan longer than 30 years, for up until around the past 50,000 years of human history, with an extensive child rearing period, didn't try to raise their children in order to successfully pass on the family genes.

If it isn't obvious to you by now how retarded your statement is then it's time you went back to school.

>>27390050
Autists and spergs aren't bad boy jock types, famicom. You know this already.

The bad boy types involve those who are abusive (sliding scale from physical pain to just beating down on their value of self worth) to...simply the pushy, "dangerous " types. Add in that a lot of women fall for the "he may be bad but I can heal him" meme which works 0 out of 0 times.

If you want to be a dick, then be a dick. But it's the confidence that works. My old man is a manlet supreme at I think it was 5'6" or 7". Yet he's gotten multiple dates after learning many tactics that Pickup Artists use.

That's actually a thing right there; PUAs. They get results because they act dickish. And many men have actually expressed sorrow that those disdainful tactics work when being themselves didn't. Look up any pickup book and you'll see a variety of shit-tier behaviours.

>>27388788
I blame women because of the fact that they are inherently evil. Who cares about the corporations? Women would be shit regardless. They always have.

>>27390102
Corporations can fall and be erased.

Women will always have that power.

...and sadly men will always put that pussy on a pedestal.

>>27389875
I don't think things like thigh highs or high heels are things women naturally want. I mean shit look at footbindings in china that lead to horrific warping of the feet. Or things like push-up bras. In cultures that don't hide the tiddy, the people there don't give a fuck about push-up bras or breast implants. Society has created the taboo on breasts.

>>27389811
>The media pushes this image BECAUSE IT SELLS.
Not necessarily. Adverts have a very strange effect on people's minds. Things don't sell in a vacuum, and human nature operates in a strange way under the extreme capitalism we have now. You're right that corporations can't be blamed. They have to act this way to compete. In a way they're victims too. But I don't think its natural for people to behave that way. You have to create the demand first.

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>>27389828
very defensive. These posts all sound the same but the saddest thing is that its probably not a samefag.

>>27390119
>very defensive.
And true.
Fuck off with your pathetic gynocentric shaming.

>>27388788
Except all of that is either contrabiological anti-male, anti-reality bullshit that hasn't been true since the 50s. People like healthy people with symmetrical faces and sharply defined aesthetic features. Our standards come from instinct and antiquity and are honest. Brainwashing people to "like things they don't actually like" results in a totalitarian nightmare state and is the Authoritarian Left's program in a nutshell.

>muh wage gap

Please, bitch. The wage gap only exists because there are jobs that have occupational hazards that only dumb/crazy males will endure and are compensated to endure.

>>27390084
There was a very high rate of child deaths at that period of time. Thus, investing everything you can in a single child was stupid, you dummy.

>>27390118
A corporation might fall, but it's capital will prevail no matter what.

>>27390119
>you have to create the demand

The demand was always there. I don't understand how you talk like only now things are out of hand because of a few select people who have illuminati-levels of influence over men and women. Especially as corporations were never around before society up until very recently, when you look at the sheer size they are now.

Friends and I have been talking lately, everyone thinks they're powerless and it's this mentality that we've been adjusted to accepting. Alone you're pretty much powerless, but if 1 million people all think they're powerless, those 1 million people could make a difference. Everyone's too lazy and content to care, society is fucked. It makes me depressed day by day.

>>27389999
...and shit I forgot to check my own quads.

>>27390162
It is not a few select Illuminati-like people. It is corporations. Top management are just talking heads of capital.

>>27390119
>Things don't sell in a vacuum, and human nature operates in a strange way under the extreme capitalism we have now.
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Get it thought your fucking head: economies respond to human social communities which are shaped by resources. The reason we seek these resources is both immediate for survival and also for building up breeding security for our social groups. The only reason things like capitalism naturally emerge from collectives of humans is because of how we secure and protect the passing on of our genes.

>But I don't think its natural for people to behave that way.
It is.
I'm sorry but it is and you are objectively wrong. Remove that gross ignorance and spend some time studying the evolution of our species and biology in general.

>>27390197
Then I gotta ask who had mass reign over the populace before corporations? Look at the history of the economy, corporations are a new thing in the long track of society.

This isn't something that suddenly went wrong. It's a matter of turning to so much navel gazing and gynogentric practices and sentiments

>>27389828
i like how it's only "redpilled" fags that only see people as "pilled"

>>27390155
>There was a very high rate of child deaths at that period of time. Thus, investing everything you can in a single child was stupid, you dummy.
Wrong. There fossil evidence suggests that family groups prior to and outside of societies with agriculture and farming were small.
I don't think you really understand how dangerous childbirth was prior to medicine. You can't afford to "shit out kids" with lifespans that low.

>>27390232
I like how you have absolutely no argument.
Blue pilled is a lot easier than saying "completely ignorant of evolutionary psychology, human nature, gynocentrism and hypergamy". It also relates to the metaphor used in the film The Matrix, because like it or, people who ignore human behaviour and do things like blaming feminism for how women behave, and politics for family structures, etc. are essentially deciding to ignore reality and go back into their blue pilled world oblivious to the matrix.

You shouldn't find it at all fucking offensive on a board content in labelling people normalfags.

>>27390232
>I like how it's only anons who see people as normies.

I hope OP answers. I wanna see how corporations are somehow so powerful and people are so weak willed that they can be instantly changed by mass media...another thing new in societies and economies.

>>27388788
>Corporations feed a binary image of male/female beauty that only Stacies/Chads can fulfill

You are implying people can not have have the thought that gender is binary by themselves
One could also argue that advertising isn't a brainwashing technique, but a way to appeal to the majority of people in their demographics
Now of course companies aren't totally innocent in the agenda they push, they have motivations of their own, but to say the thought that gender is binary originated only from corporations is a wrong assumption.

>This means men have to be the pursuer because women pursuing is 'wrong'

"right" or "wrong" is irrelevant and I think what you are saying is that the majority of men would rather be the pursuer than be pursued by a woman. Now where that comes from could be the media or could be biological. I dont think there is conclusive evidence on this matter.

>>27388788
The stereotypes existed before capitalism and corporations.

>>27390119
>I don't think things like thigh highs or high heels are things women naturally want.
No but it's based on the natural need to attract a mate, and the social tendency of females to follow trends and consensus.

>>27390084
>didn't try to raise their children in order to successfully pass on the family genes

they didnt give a fuck about family genes, except in better of families. Look at Africa and India, they fuck because they want to fuck, they shit out kids, who nobody care if they live or die.

For people owning land, kids were source of labour, so they put more work in it, but those were considered better off families.