>just lift brah, start LIFTING, get in shape dude!
You hit the GYM HARD, while Chad eats pizza
Girls look at your gymcel body and think "ewww what a try hard" while they look at the chad and think "i love him, he just does what he wants, not even concerned about the whole lifting thing".
Chad STILL looks INFINITELY better than you because of his GENETICALLY DETERMINED HEIGHT, FACE and FRAME.
Why haven't you learnt yet?
It's either ALPHA GENETICS, or BETA RESULTS.
Then explain how so many guys who look way, way worse than the guy on the left still have gfs
>tfw wide shoulders and back
wew lad at least I'll never look like the guy on the left
Dude on the right has some huge shoulders.
Guy on the left looks better.
>>27369787
I'd still rather look like either of them than the average user of /r9k/
>>27369787
The guy on the left needs to do a wider range of exercises. How can it be possible to look like that after working out for so long?
>>27369787
the guy on the left probably has had more sex than all of /r9k/ combined
>>27369882
lol come on man that's retarded
>>27369787
Genetics are a thing but there is no way you can have a body like right guy without hitting the gym or practicing a sport.
You are retarded.
>>27369984
I don't like the pussy haircut and I think his shoulders are too wide for his head. But that's just me. I would rather look like the guy on the left.
You can't be a Chad if you don't go to the gym. That makes no sense. Gymming is probably the one thing that links all the stereotypical chads together.
It baffles me the lengths people on this board will go to to not take responsibility for their own lives. You've really deluded yourself into thinking that your direction is set in stone from your genetics, that there is no way to improve yourself and gain the affection of others. I would bet that 9/10 who go on about how lifting won't do anything haven't spent more than two weeks in the gym.
I'm starting to get it now. You all are basically just women. I don't know if it's genetics, hormonal, or environmental, but this idea that the mountain top is unattainable and you need to feel envious and shit on those who have reached higher than you is feminine as fuck.
>>27370018
>You can't be a Chad if you don't go to the gym
Fucking lmao.
Chad wakes up at 2 in the afternoon, checks his phone and sees 5 new Snapchat notifications. All of them are nudes from different girls. Did "lifting" earn him that? Did those girls choose him because they liked his "increased confidence" which he got from NOT MASTURBATING?
FUCK NO. Chad doesn't even THINK about that "self improvement" bullshit, yet women WORSHIP him. Why? ALPHA GENETICS. That's literally IT. Nothing else, no "confidence", no "correct body language", fucking GENETICS. He was BORN to be SEXUALLY ATTRACTIVE.
So no, you can't "improve yourself" enough to "become chad", because you CAN'T IMPROVE GENETICS.
>>27369787
Logan Paul.
'Nuff said.
>>27370164
are you forgetting that part where humans are capable of learning and growing?
if improvement is impossible then so is depression. you forfeit the right to say you have any problems if everything is just muh genetics, tumblr
>>27370164
Even if this hypothetical Chad did exist, that doesn't mean things are hopeless for every other dude. The fact is, /r9k/ represents a very small minority of guys. Most average and unattractive guys do get laid and eventually spread their seed.
Regardless, this Chad doesn't exist. 90% of so-called "Chads" were athletes through out school which is why they have good bodies. This may have been paired with a tall stature and a nice face, but those alone did not make them Chad.
>>27370215
I'm not saying improvement isn't possible, it is, you just can't improve yourself significantly enough to "make it brah".
>>27370164
Yeah, Zyzz was born shredded right? Fuck off retard. People are born with different genetics, some a lot better than others. Everyone has the power to make themselves more attractive or less. Two guys might be born with Chad tier genetics, but one goes all the way to get as ripped as he can, while the other eats lots of junk food and gets fat. Obviously women would prefer fit Chad over a failed Chad who's let himself end up a mediocre normie. Also if you don't think body language matters you're ignorant as fuck. Women aren't attracted to betas who project insecurity in their body language. Chad by his very nature projects confidence in his body language. Chad may look good, but he also understands social dynamics. Being good looking makes it easier to be alpha, it is not a substitute for it.
>>27369787
left needs to fix his haircut and gain confidence
right needs to fucking do squats and oats and is C4 at best
he looks flimsy and girly without any muscles and only has a large skeleton structure
if he actually put effort in he could be B6 or A8
They are both red flags for left being an autistic loser who only lifts while hes socially retarded.
Right is probably lazy and uses charm instead of actually being any good at anything and would probably be a constant disappoint and like living with a child being his mommy instead of him taking charge and being a man.
>>27369787
Btw because I can see you're all biting the b8.
This is a /fit/ pasta.
>>27370332
sorry cat more important than grid
>>27370347
A4 - A9 look the same.
>>27370328
Jesus Christ, the gymcels never learn. Here we go...
You know why Zyzz looked so good?
ALPHA GENETICS.
His insertion points were unreal. It's EXTREMELY rare to have the kind of muscular shape he did - that slim waist, those wide shoulders, those narrow hips?! GENETICS. Uncontrollable, unchangeable, set in stone genetics.
Sure you can go to the gym and lift hard. Sure you can bulk up 50lbs. Maybe you'll even get on gear and build some muscle. But you'll NEVER look like Zyzz.
Why? Because you have INFERIOR GENETICS. You can get bigger biceps, you can build a larger chest, you can get huge quads - you can make yourself look slightly better, but you will NEVER have a body girls will drool over.
"B-but Zyzz used to be beta!" NO, he used to be a TEENAGER. Of course he looked beta in those fucking before photos, he was about 15. He hadn't had time for his broad shoulders to develop yet, so naturally he looked like any skinny beta. But once he went through puberty, the truth became clear. Why? Because the things that attract women are GENETIC. It makes sense - attraction is based off GENETICALLY good traits. These are things like height, a symmetrical face, a big dick, and a good shoulder to hip ratio. All of these things are pretty much unchangeable.
If anything, lifting turns women off. It is true that most women would like to have a partner who is in shape, but studies have shown that these women would like their partner to be like that naturally. By all means lift weights if YOU enjoy it, but don't be stupid enough to think that it's going to get you any girls.
FUCKING OWNED AND DESTROYED!!!
>>27370259
that depends more on location than genetics though. youre over here claiming body language and social skills are not real. put on a nice suit and a fake beard or something wow you're chad in your world.
RIP muscly brown man RIP
>>27370328
>body language matters
lmfao
LMFAO
BODY LANGUAGE
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
I mean... Seriously? Do you ACTUALLY believe this? BODY LANGUAGE? Chad sits in the corner of the room on his phone. Girls think he's mysterious. You do the same and they call the police. Face it, "body language" and "confidence" is just another way of saying GOOD LOOKING.
In fact holy shit just got to the end of your post, you are reddit-tier bluepilled.
> "Chad projects confidence in his body language"
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH
PROJECTS CONFIDENCE IN HIS BODY LANGUAGE HOLY FUCKING SHIT
;LMAO HE PROJECTS "confidence" in his PERFECTLY SCULPTED FACE, HIS DOMINEERING HEIGHT, AND HIS AESTHETIC FRAME. Fucking LOL at thinking "body language" is what girls like. Holy fucking shit bluepillers will delude themselves into believing ANYTHING to make themselves think they have a chance.
>>27370328
>but he also understands social dynamics
He does not understand social dynamics, but he is aware of these things on some subconscious level. True chad-ness is essentially chad-genetics coupled with lifelong social experience which produces the easygoing confidence and instinctual behaviour that girls piss themselves over.
>>27370432
Body language has been shown to be as important as what you say. Sure a good looking guy and an ugly guy doing the same gesture won't produce the exact same results but that's a given when you smash two extremes together.
>>27370432
You're conflating things being more difficult because you're not as attractive and things being impossible because you aren't.
>>27369998
Girls would pick the guy on the right every single time. Hair can be cut, and wide shoulders are sought after by most.
>>27370347
>tfw A2
I'd aim for A3 if it weren't for the likelihood of having to continuously keep at it. I'm too lazy for that shit though, especially as I'd likely lose all gains within a month if I dropped down to doing 1 workout a week (which is what I generally do at most).
A2 seems to work well enough in terms of looks, though, so there's that.
best bait thread in months.
>>27370432
You obviously have never invested in proper body language skills.
As an average (5/10) looking manlet I manage to get women interested in me simply by being sociable with decent social skills, and having non-verbal communicative skills (i.e., body language, showing confidence, etc.).
I would be considered a creep if I dared making a move without any (or rather with closed) body language and no social skill, which happened years ago.
Obviously a 10/10 tall Chad will need less effort to get better results, but that doesn't magically causesmaking out with women, having had 1 longterm gf and currently looking into gfing a woman,to not have happened.
Why care about how others have it easier anyway?
>>27369787
Chads can eat whatever because the more muscle you have on your body the easier it is to burn fat/calories. If you want to become attractive read the sticky on /fit/ if not shut the fuck up and accept that it's your choice to have an unattractive body.
>implying this isnt bait
The guy on the left is roiding for one, but his shoulders are also ridiculously narrow, most guys don't have that problem.
>>27370432
nigga take the redpill and accept that some people have it harder than others and adapt to it. I'm dedicating my life to increasing my wealth so I can retire at a young age with a passive income for example, women aren't worth the time, effort or stress.
>>27370432
I don't really think I have a chance, I just think the problem goes beyond looks. I see Chads all the time in real life and they have a social and physical confidence that I lack. I even see normies as or less attractive then me who project themselves far better than I do. Good looks are great obviously, and guys who are born good looking generally have a great opportunity to learn how to be alpha, everyone's already receptive to them. But if an 8/10 guy was born with an autist brain, a complete sperg of a personality, he wouldn't get the sort of women that a normal 8/10 guy would get. It's even worse the less attractive you are. Being born with personality and social problems is a terrible problem, yet fags like you want to pretend it doesn't exist. As if you're all completely confident, well dressed normalfags who are comfortable in social situations but were cursed with average looks and thus must remain celibate for life. I don't buy it for a second.
>>27370378
>FUCKING OWNED AND DESTROYED!!!
>trying this hard
Wew lad
So what's the point of lifting, again? Are you going to the gym to get bitches? You are ready to waste you time, money and maybe health for a used hole? That's kinda pathetic. Girls, I mean sluts, will think that you are compensating something. And why sluts? Because no other significantly "normal" girl would date you just because of your muscles. Dont get me wrong, looks are a big deal and without them you wouldn't be able to start any relationship, because people unconsciously (and consciously) dislike ugly people. But a simple hygiene can make you a norm tier guy. Here's some advices: walk with straight back, dont be afraid to look people in the eyes, wash yourself at least once a week, get a standart haircut that fits you and try to joke around girls. Last one is the most difficult one, at least for me, but women love to have fun time, and Chad know how to make them laugh. But if you are a looser for certain people, that you can't really change in there eyes no matter what you do. The best will be to hang around new people (get a new job, go to new uni).
Well that's all I can advice...
By the way, I'm not some Chad, or normie, I got this advices from other anons myself. I'm a cyborg now, with a bit more confidence. I went to gym for 4 mounts ro get in shape a little bit, becouse I was a skeleton (not that much have changed, but still), but then I just realized that its a waste of time and money, and every muscular guy that you have met used pharma. There IS a gate to your body, that you can't break without pills and shit. But why? Better buy some onahole.sorry for my bad english, it isn't my first language
>>27370378
Zyzz was using tonnes of pharma, thats the reason he got such a body.And that's the reason hes dead now
would you say the guy on the right's shoulders are as a wide as a door frame?
>>27370328
No but he was tall and had good bone structure. My maximum natty would look tiny and ridiculous next to skinnyfat Zyzz because I'm 5'4 with narrow shoulders.
> not born a 10/10 Chad
Better never try to have sex with girls, make friends or get a job. With my disgusting 6/10 body and face, I am doomed to be a virgin forever, like all non-Chads. This is despite my cultured life as a NEET living in mommies basment, playing video games and shitposting. Obviously my behaviour is no different from the typical normie or chad, it must be my average looks.
>>27369870
miring dem hips too
>>27370948
Don't forget it's also because all women are sluts, whores, Staceys, evil, all only interested in the top 0.01% of men, and every single one solely cares about looks and money; anyone who's less than that and has a gf/wife is just being cucked, cheated on, a beta provider, and raising other men's kids.
Women - whom worth reiterating are all evil and vile creatures who deserve to die - don't care about personality either obviously, or they would choose my incredibly nice and great (and totally not bitter/angry/entitled) personality over the assholes - whom also all should die horrible and painfully edgy deaths - they always date. Why can't those crappy creatures not see my superior kindness? The filthy skanks. It must be their personality and my average looks, nothing else.
Hey brobots. I have narrow shoulders too and bit skinny fat 178/72. Problem is that I never was in the gym in my life. Is there a hope for me or I looked like guy on the left?
>>27370785
Oh, by the way, I forgot to mention that eating healthy can solve many health problems.
>>27371113
Sorry to tell you this, but you aren't Chad and are doomed to eternal virginity. Trust me, I consume massive amounts of cuckporn and subsist entirely off hot pockets and sugar water. And although I never leave my room, all the time spent on lookism.net has taught me quite a bit about the way the world really works.
>>27370378
>alpha genetics
>heart defect
ayyy lmao
>>27371236
He clearly OD'd.
>>27370378
Because he used steroids and is dead now because of it
>>27371062
>>27371217
why are you trying so hard?
do you seriously think you will convince us women aren't only interested in the top men and don't want men with inferior genetic traits such as narrow shoulders?
fuck off stupid roastie we know what you are
>>27371450
Your wonderful personality is very compelling
>>27370948
/r/asianmasculinity pls go
oregano
>>27370018
literal bullshit. i lived with a chad who shot up crack & opiates all day, rarely went to the gym (he would go a lot for periods then be completely sedentary for months at a time).
he *ALWAYS* had a 7/10 or better to fuck. ALWAYS. he was 27yo, no money, no job, in and out of jail, didn't do shit but drugs and he got laid all the time.
FUCK OFF NORMIE
>>27371450
It's such a pity women can't see your beautiful personality and offer themselves to you but instead go for those assholes.
>>27371542
Ever think your never-ending fight to "make it" combined with ceaseless bitching is your issue?
>>27369966
genetics, ok, thats how it is, some win and some lose
>>27371498
im a bitch atm but if i wanna become a man this tells me i needta widen my legs, change the position of my arms, start benching, and grow a penis, all of which are feasible except the penis situation. am i gonna make it, /r9k/?
>>27371498
Not all of us asians are bitches you faggot.
>>27370948
>>27371062
>>27371062
>>27371497
>>27371567
Take your sarcastic, passive-aggressive faggotry and bring it to reddit or tumblr. No amount of "personality" can make up for having genetically undesirable traits.
>>27370258
>were athletes through out school which is why they have good bodies.
No shit. Proper nutrition and exercise during adolescence are also important to reaching full potential. But once you're past that stage, there's nothing you can do.
>>27371697
Says the whiny beta. Please post your face as proof that you're too ugly to get laid. Or be a bitch, I don't care.
>>27371697
This. Genetics = life.
People equate us to the obese tumblr hamplanets who blame genetics for their weight, which is ridiculous. Sure, bodyfat isn't determined by genetics. But height, face, frame, dick size, hair... you could go on for hours, but all important traits for men are determined by genetics.
I can't believe some people on /r9k/ are so bluepilled. Is this a new thing? There were always women and white knights here I can't remember it being this bad. Haven't browsed frequently in 2ish years.
>>27371830
If those people didn't believe that life was so unfair, it wouldn't be. Their un-ending focus on this shit makes it so much more evident to them.
You fags realise the picture is shopped right? the guy on the right has huge hips and pretty normal shoulders irl.
>>27370785
>I went to the gym for 4 months
I can't take you seriously senpai, did you even try?
>>27370378
well you're not gonna know if you have good insertions if you don't fucking lift you doofus
>>27369787
Do you realise that the guy on the left is injected synthol and didn't probably even go to the gym, right?
>>27371881
So you agree about genetics being most important, but you think that they're wrong for noticing it, and would be happier if they pretended they don't have these problems?
>>27372066
No, I don't mean pretending they don't have problems. They're clearly very attached to these issues which makes them so noticeable. I just said to myself "it's all true, you can't do anything about it" and I relaxed. Now none of this stuff bothers me and I don't even notice it anymore.
>>27372148
Is this the next innovation in the "just be yourself" meme?
You can't just choose to not be attracted to the opposite sex.
>>27369787
ectomorphs can't shoulders
deal with it
also, this guy appears to be cheating his shoulders with his traps, making him look like a total retard
if you want to change your self you're gonna have to get on roids
it's the only way, pathetic ectomorphs, or you'll look like the guy on the left
>>27369787
OP you would be really surprised how many fatties actually have a handsome face once they loose all that blop covering it
>>27372315
I'm saying if you're not focused on fighting, solving, or bitching about problems you're not going to have any. Your focus on depression makes it that much more noticeable - that is undeniable; just like trying to ignore it is still focusing on it.
>trying to get cut but can't stop drinking alcohol and cripplingly bored if i try to go completely str8 edge
>bored because there is no one in my life to talk to, no one in my life to talk to because i'm boring and don't look ripped yet
>vicious cycle
>forever builtfat mode
>>27370378
Lol self improvement faggots getting blown the fuck out
>d-dude just eat celery, don't masturbate, complete SS and GOMAD, and spend money on PUA workshops
>no Chad doesn't do any of these things and I'm not Chad but I know for a fact this will turn you into a Chad
>>27372315
Yes you can. Don't let your dreams be dreams. Take the redpill!
>>27369966
GENETICS YOU DUMB FUCKING CUNT. Do w have to spell it out for you /fit retards?
>>27374069
Fucking lol, they literally never learn
>>27370378
THIS. These dudes from /fit are in fucking denial. Thy think 'hurr i'll just get bigger and bigger hurr yeah thatll work'. like throwing muscle at the problem is going to fix it. women, like other human beings, are looking for symmetrical beauty among shape and proportion. shaping isn't a once way street of getting bigger you fucking retards. length, width, surface area and the amount applied to different features of the body. it could mean being smaller in on area and yes, bigger in another.
you will never have chad's nose, lips, brow, shoulders, hairline, hair, pupils, cheekbones, chest, nipples, jawline, jew density, teeth, etc etc etc etc. women laugh at you all the time for being swollen try hards. an ugly swollen potatoes is still an ugly potatoe. does that make you want to kill yuorself? you are ugly and you know it. you hooked on to the lifting community because you thought you could escape genetics. you poured everything into it and even become supremacists about it. but you are only superior in your own fantasies. if lifting was a solution to that, than gorrilas should be the most attractive males on the planet.
>>27374272
This post is the final nail in the coffin for gymcels, it doesn't get any more clear than that. And yes every single guy that lifts does it for women no matter how much they tell you otherwise.
>>27374310
You are delusional, /fit/ doesn't lift for girls we lift foreach other
>>27369787
But all this is saying is that some people have higher maximum potentials than others.
It is not demonstrating why it is not in your best interests to improve yourself and get closer to your maximum potential , whatever level that maximum potential may be.
A person with 4/10 genetics is still usually going to have a better life if he gets athletic than if he's a skeleton or a fatass.
>>27370164
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DW4RLRP93Ik
this is my take of your """situation""". You sound like a whiny little cunt. get off your ass and do something about it you goddamn retard. so tired of you whiny faggots.
go work out, get shredded, get built, do something about it. Zyzz didn't die so you idiots could slump on your asses.
>>27374639
for casting purposes, can you do a vocarro of the first minute of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu6NKHtLzks
?
thx.
>>27374272
This guy right here just blew all the muscle heads right out of the water.
>>27374607
It is not in our best interest because the guys with higher potential get all the semi-attractive to attractive women anyway.
Working hard won't improve the quality of your life if you have low potential.
>>27374272
This x 100000
Also why the fuck was bringing the robot back considered a good idea?
>>27369787
Being in the gym makes me anxious. I feel like everyone is judging me and that I look like an idiot.
How do I get /fit/?
>>27374639
The impression was funny, the coping afterwards was embarrassing though.
>>27369971
0 X "x"= 0
You retard
>>27370378
zyzz was fat as a kid and had to try hard and get out of that hole, get lost
>>27370018
protip: chad has naturally higher test giving him a natural muscle tone without having to work for it.
>>27375740
He wasn't, he was skinny. Plus even if he was fat, by losing weight he's just REMOVING A NEGATIVE to reveal an ALREADY good FACE or FRAME.
>tfw Diagnosed low test (200 Ng per Deciliter)
>tfw lifting does nothing for me
>tfw weak fuck for the rest of my life
this is 100% legit.
>>27370347
>G7
noice
>>27378267
can't you get it prescribed?
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