What does the modern woman offer men these days other than loose pussies and divorce papers?
>>27339232
BJs and sometimes anal.
>>27339232
mulatto children
>>27339256
Not worth the investment
nothing, men and women don't offer each other anything.
that's why feminism is on the rise and it seems like women hate you just for existing in real life practices, not on the internet.
>>27339304
Men continue to keep the world turning and it's the western man who guarantees women the freedom she loves so much. Women owe their entire lives to man and they literally offer nothing to man that is worthwhile.
>>27339232
The same thing all women have had to offer throughout history: access to a vagina and an unfortunate male mother need which women find repulsive and men cannot shake.
So basically nothing that a prostitute or a flesh light can't provide. People who still actively associate with women and go as far as to be a wage slave to support them are basically lesser apes in my eyes and I cannot really appreciate them as humans.
>>27339304
"Feminism" is only going to continue to rise as more women continue to vote for politicians who pander to them by acting as surrogate husbands: i.e. that big daddy figure she is able to fall back on and have her lifestyle supported by. Women have more rights than men or children and it is getting even more biased as the decades go on. It will basically take a complete societal collapse to undo this, but that would be terrible as it would enforce an even stronger traditionalism and men would be more disposable than ever.
>>27339232
My wife's children bring me great joy. I spend my free time buying them things while my wife is "out with friends". Come to think of it, she sure goes out with friends a lot.
>>27339232
pussies don't get worn out.
>>27339232
Why are betas so afraid of women who have had sex? I'll never understand that.
>>27339614
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>>27339614
It's the idea that she'll be all used up by Chad and she'll come for the beta after Chad doesn't find her attractive and can't provide for her.
>>27339636
No just any adult who's had sex since the 70's.
Are you afraid because you're bad in bed?
>>27339653
Oh so it's a boogeyman thing. You make up this story in your head to just never try?
>>27339614
>afraid
No we find them repulsive. Nothing as big as a turn off knowing a girl is sexually active. It's even worse than smoking to be honest.
>>27339614
>>27339660
>>27339682
>ignore all the valid points and jump straight to shaming
Fuck off cunts.
>>27339660
Nope. I've had 4 girlfriends in my life and they've all be virgins until I got with them. That's because I'm not a beta cuck like you. So go be a cuckold someplace else you literal cuck.
>>27339727
Now you're just trolling. It's like you've never had good sex. Or any sex.
>>27339727
every girl 15 and over that is remotely attractive is sexually active. I'm sorry man, I don't like it either, but its the truth. Stop looking for a perfect virgin waifu and just go have fun.
>>27339749
>valid points
Like? We all know this is just a way for losers to act like they choose to be virgins. Nobody is buying it.
tfw want a pure wholesome girl who I can fall in love with and experience everything with together for the first time in order to bond with and have memories of things only we two as a couple have done in our lives. But in reality there are no pure girls left and all the girls that are left are whores who go traveling every month and think they know it all.
>>27339755
They've all been lying to you. Also it's super duper gay to be concerned with dicks, man.
>>27339756
>s-she's fucked many many guys so that means she must be good in bed
You're so fucking delusional. Typical cuck that's in-denial.
>>27339803
There are some pure girls left but you wouldn't want them, they're ugly.
>>27339785
>losers
Holy shit you're doing it right now.
Why do women come here? You have the rest of society and the internet to do whatever you want.
The real reason why we find you worthless is, now pay attention: you constantly keep interjecting yourself where you aren't wanted and expect positive attention, then when you are told to prompty fuck all, you start breaking out the shaming tactics.
3D is PD and more men are starting to unshackle themselves from the pussy driven rat race.
>>27339614
It's called a preference you cunt, I'm allowed to not want to be in a long term relationship with a non-virgin.
>>27339756
Actually no I didn't because I believe only married couples should have sex. My body is my temple and i'm not gonna whore it out for a quick fix. I'm still looking for my one love but with the way the world is now my hope keeps fading. I tried dating websites, hooking up with friends of friends but to no avail, girls these days are no longer girls they are men with tits and ass.
>>27339803
That's really gay man. Sounds like you want a dude for all of that stuff.
>>27339803
NAWALT conditioning, anon. "pure" girls don't exist, they are an ideal created by other men in art and literature, because no such thing could be found in reality.
>>27339232
Well, speaking for myself, my wife supports me with her $25/hour job while I go to school full time. Pretty fucking legit actually.
>>27339932
I have faith anon.
>>27339959
She is going to leave you for a more successful male eventually. If you are living in America or the UK, there is an over 60% percent chance, reflected by the divorce rate and numbers of divorce instigated by the female partner.
>>27340039
You have stupidity and a willful ignorance in favour of a personal narrative. I wish you nothing but pain and suffering as you have no valid excuse for such intellectual laziness.
>>27339959
99.59 chance your wife is cheating on you and only keeps you around because in her mind you're her jester.
>>27339886
Sorry pal. I'm a man. You can't say the same because you're crying about shaming like a total chick.
>>27340039
>faith
No thanks, I put all my points in Strength.
>>27339914
You should try going outside and realize we aren't some weird religious society from the 1500s. Chicks have sex. Guys do. It's not a big sacred thing. It's fun,
>>27340067
Betas are so worried about locking up women forever. It's pathetic really.
>>27340143
I know you're trolling, but the fact that people actually believe this is infuriating. It blows my fucking mind. I want to kill every last one of them
>>27340168
> on r9k
> not a beta
Wew lad, pick one. Don't tell me you think you're an alfala?
>>27340126
>I'm a man
No you aren't.
You're still shaming and still obvioualy a worthless cunt.
>>27340168
>beta
Shaming language is meaningless here.
>>27340176
Don't wast your breath, my man. Even in public, keep your opinions to yourself.
>>27340143
>You should try going outside and realize we aren't some weird religious society from the 1500s. Chicks have sex. Guys do. It's not a big sacred thing. It's fun,
oh how far society has fallen.
>>27340143
does it make you feel worthless that anon has decided to wait till marriage? and you didnt?
>>27339636
>>27339755
>>27339815
Why do people use the word "cuck" incorrectly? Seriously, everybody just shouts "cuck", "autist", and "Reddit" at each other while incorrectly using these words and I just don't get how people can be so fucking stupid.
>>27339232
>divorce papers
This doesn't happen in completely open and honest relationships.
The people who get divorced are the ones that "lie" and "conceal" parts of their life from their partner over the entire course of the relationship.
>What does the modern woman offer men these days other than loose pussies
A life partner, parental partner, and a chance at a new happy family . . .
The American Dream (if you believe in that stuff)
>>27339232
Why does the modern woman offer men these days that waifus don't?
>Sex
Onaholes are a thing. They probably feel the same
>Conversation
VR is on the rise, we'll be having complex chats with our waifus in as little as 3 years
>Real love
>implying modern women are capable of love
At least with my waifu I know it's fake and can still pretend it's real.
>>27340285
>A life partner, parental partner, and a chance at a new happy family
literally every married couple my age I know are miserable because nothing is sacred between them.
>>27340265
Virgins think calling people cucks makes them better. But sadly virgins are way worse than cucks. By a lot
>>27340250
No? Thing is, that guy will nevwr get married. If he lives to 30, he will be a bitter virgin and get a hooker.
>>27340213
Seems like you're trying to shame now, pal. You should be ashamed if you're over 17 and a virgin.
>>27340228
Um, society has advanced.
>>27340385
> not penetrating a pussy
> worse than raising another mans child, with a woman who wouldn't even have spit on you when she was single, young, and childless
Kek, get a load of this faggot.
>>27340477
This is a beta fairy tale. Life doesn't work this way. Sorry man.
But yeah, even if your delusion was true, the cuck is less of a loser than the virgin
>>27339614
She's not emotionally available. She lost her ability to bond.
>>27340462
and like every society that accepted sexual promiscuity, will eventually collapse.
>>27340499
>But yeah, even if your delusion was true, the cuck is less of a loser than the virgin
This is exactly the kind of propaganda 3D sluts want to spread, because they're better off if you're in a position to service them instead of worrying about other shit
Do not fall prey to it's bullshit, anons.
>>27340521
>She's not emotionally available. She lost her ability to bond.
This pretty much. As much as the normies deny it.
I'm surprised there's so many normies here. Aren't they supposed to be on /b/ posting their gfs or their ex-gfs nudes? Or even on /soc/?
Here's some Doom R-34.God Imps are hot.
>>27340499
What fairy tale? Logically speaking, in what world is raising another mans child better than being a virgin?
>>27339472
If you are so opposed to associating with any women whatsoever as much as you possibly can, you could always go gay.It's the same shit
>>27339614
It's not fear, for me I want sex to be something that I experience with the person I love and if they don't have the restraint to wait then it's an insult to any guy who saved himself for her.
Being someone's second or third is not tolorable, I want it to be completely exclusive. I could never fully love a woman who had already gotten intimate with another man, it's disgusting. It also piss es me off when people tell me it's fine for me to fuck women for practice. I want to show my future wife that she means something to me and saving intimacy for her is a good way to prove it. I'd feel like a piece of shit if I fucked different girls and settled down with a virgin.
>>27340563
Yeah take woman advice from a "man" who calls women 3d.
>>27340521
You can bond with people who have had sex.
>>27340550
So have the societies that were prudes. Oops.
>>27340582
>in what world is raising another mans child better than being a virgin?In a roasties world, so she has less work to do while you pull the weight for her bad decisions
>>27340365
Relationships are complex, you can't pin down just "one" reason for all the discord between partners.
Even if you could, then that person was not forthcoming enough with their partner or tried to hide whatever it was.
That's usually where the issue is. Not being upfront with everything (concealing things) and not being completely open honest with your feelings/self with your partner (lies).
They majority of the time only have themselves to blame.
>>27340602
This is 100% insecurity. 100% fear.
>>27340619
I bet you didn't read past the first sentence did you?
>>27340582
In the real world. You should go outside sometime.
>>27340605
Dropping the hostility for a moment, does my scenario not make sense?
The idea that "the cuck is less of a loser than the virgin" strongly benefits women, does it not?
What is illogical about my conclusion?
itt: cunts telling hard working men who want to spread decency and good values into this world that they are betas for not wanting to date them after taking ahmeds and tyrones cock up their ass.
>>27340636
I read all of it. It's nonsense excuse making that leads to a bitter woman hating 30 year old virgin manbaby
>>27340642
It strongly benefit men. It teaches men to actually be men instead of effeminate manbaby virgins.
>>27340614
Yeah man, it's incredible how brainwashed the masses are.
>>27340644
Yeah they really want your minimum wage job money.
Your whole delusion is based on how desperate you are. Normal men don't settle like your little fantasy world
>>27340605
>You can bond with people who have had sex.
Boy are you delusional. Normies actually think this.
Don't you normies have a thread on /b/ to post in. Gotta post those gf nudes somewhere.Here's an Imp getting fucked by Doomguy
>>27340687
Why do you have the same views on sex as a dumb naive teenaged virgin girl?
>>27340668
So, forcing societal norms and gender roles, that the majority of the world has been trying to get rid of for the past 50 years, is now a good thing?
I think Roastie is mad that she can be replaced with a drawing.
>>27340687
Post more Imps
>>27340639
I do. Most men who involve themselves with single mothers end up miserable.
>>27340656
I'm 19 and I hate women the same as men. Sounds to me like you just can't accept a more conservative view, probably because deep down you're ashamed of things you've done. So throwing out meaningless insults is your answer just to keep yourself from falling apart.
>>27340714
The world hasn't been pushing men to be pussies.
>>27340616
With the way normie girls and guys are these days it's impossible to not hide the shame that they have committed throughout their lives. When dating a potential life mate they put up a false mask where they trying to convince to each other that they are ideal mates who are morally righteous and are trustworthy but in reality neither the male nor female are either of those things and it ends up blowing up in their face after the first year.
>>27340727
Ashamed of what? That doesn't even make sense.
>>27340313
>Onaholes are a thing. They probably feel the same
Maybe one day, anon. We can only hope.
>>27340704
Here ya go Anon. I recently got into Doom porn because I saw a video of a Doom mod called H-Doom. It's pretty epic.
>>27340642
being a virgin =/= being a loser,
what makes you a loser is if you let your virginity define who you are as a personlike it has my fellow robots.
Roasties just are mad, that some men, still hold standards, and are not in such a hurry to sleep around, and get into meaningless relationships.
being a cuck on the other hand, well you seen how shit went for moot.
>>27339232
I fucking hate the terms "modern women" and "modern men" if you don't want a woman who's slept with 100 guys, don't go with them, if you want a woman who's had little to no sexual partners then go for them. Some people just don't click with other groups of people.
For me I'm fine with my partner if she's had other sexual partners, because I know I sure as hell have, fuck I'd prefer it if a girls had at least 1 other sexual partner because sex with a virgin is the most awkward thing I've ever experienced.
>>27340737
Once again, logic fails you.
You, either are a woman, or taking on the role as one.
The term "pussy" is used to describe a man that doesn't exhibit masculine traits.
Since you're the woman in this situation, and you seem to be cockthirsty and are trying to convince everyone to whip out their dicks and fuck the nearest meathole, sexuality is something you value.
This is true for the majority of the western female population
So, men that aren't really interested are the opposite of "pussies".
Have another picture of the vidya game girl that'll be able to replace you once VR is a bit more advanced
>>27340750
I'm assuming you've done things in the past that you question morally. Why else would you respond to my comment. Do you actually enjoy insulting anonymous people that much?
>>27339614
Women who sleep with just about anyone show a lack of decision making skills. Staying with a women implies I wish to share part of the decision making in my life with her, if she has a history of poor decisions (getting pregnant, STDs, multiple relationships ending badly, etc.) I'll think that she isn't fit to have children with or live with because she might end up fucking me or my kid over. This applies to men too.
>>27340720
See >>27340755
Fuck, replied to the normie instead of the fellow Imp lover.
>>27340803
Make sure you get her to sign the prenup you idiot.
>>27340752
Honestly, onaholes feel better. The only girl i've slept with was pretty overweight so that probably added to my displeasure at the situation, but there are even USB onahole warmers. They feel great senpai.
If you haven't had any good luck try getting one of the USB onahole warmers, they're like $12 iirc
>>27340861
We've already said we would get one if we do get married, but you're making the assumption she's going to steal my stuff? It's pretty funny, because y'know communication between two people clearly doesn't exist the moment somebody elses cock has engraved their vagina.
This is why you'll always be a neet.
>>27339232
I'm actually fine with the idea of being in a long-term relationship, with one absolute caveat: no marriage. None. Not getting married prevents the vast majority of legal and emotional problems a man might experience in a relationship with a woman.
Eventually the conversation will come up, and one of two things will happen:
1. She accepts it because she loves you more than she loves a piece of paper and an overpriced chunk of metal and mineral. What's more, she has to work harder to please you because it's much easier for you to walk away from the relationship than if you got married.
2. She does not accept it, and you realize you dodged a bullet there.
>>27340668
Yes men, stop trying to find a good wife you can grow old with, but instead date someone like me who slept with 30 other guys and will empty your bank accounts faster than tyrone emptied his balls after mine and your first date. Don't you know this is how society is now you pussy manchild how dare you raise your voice to me.
>>27340741
>they put up a false mask where they trying to convince to each other that they are ideal mates
Then they will suffer the consequences of their falsehoods.
Even symbiosis can become synnecrosis. Or in the case of the average anonParasitism
>>27339785
It is a choice though.
>come party, there'll be girls
>go talk to her
Robots choose no - it's almost never the women who "choose" what to do with a robot - he's already decided he'll have nothing to do with pushing the open legged soaked pussy whore of a stone up the proverbial hill.
>>27340168
>forever
>seventy years or so
Just fuck off "forever" you dumb fuck
>>27339232
>What does the modern woman offer men these days other than loose pussies and divorce papers?
Non white women can offer a lot more.
>>27340915
Her sleeping around is one of the biggest red flag there is.
also can the whore in this thread watch this video and then repent on here for she has sinned.
https://youtu.be/imhDzGYhauQ?t=178
>>27340642
>he's arguing with a hole
>>27340385
Yeah, alimony payments build character!
>>27340737
I'm not usually the "we should never have given them the vote!" type, but they voted against the draft in America... Where on earth did all the real men go?
>>27341173
Define sleeping around, I said she's had different sexual partners, these are through relationships from previous boyfriends. Waiting till marriage is stupid.
>>27340973
>Yes men, stop trying to find a good wife you can grow old with
Why not toss run through traffic instead?
National Marriage and Divorce Rate Trends (America)
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/marriage_divorce_tables.htm
Divorces in England and Wales (UK)
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/divorce/datasets/divorcesinenglandandwalesnumberofdivorcesageatdivorceandmaritalstatusbeforemarriage
Marriages and Divorces, Australia
http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/[email protected]/mf/3310.0
The common factor in all of these? Women initiative the highest number of divorce across ALL age brackets, with the highest divorce numbers occurring during the late early 30s to late 40s, meaning the points in which men reach their earning potential and as women are hitting the wall, meaning they consciously or unconsciously are weighing up their options and seeking out the man who can support them the most before breaking the previous marriage.
>>27341292
>Where on earth did all the real men go?
They are all around you, billions of them, you fucking prick. Who the FUCK do you think keeps every nation on earth running 24/7? HARD WORKING MEN WHO ARE TREATED LIKE DISPOSABLE SHIT.
Fuck you and your traditionalist rhetoric.
alternatively, this one
>>27341354
That's bullshit every guy I know that is in a relationship literally had it fall into their lap, they did not earn it.
>>27341292
Where have all the flowers gone, long time passing?
Where have all the flowers gone, long time ago?
Where have all the flowers gone?
Young girls have picked them everyone.
Oh, when will they ever learn?
Oh, when will they ever learn?
Where have all the young girls gone, long time passing?
Where have all the young girls gone, long time ago?
Where have all the young girls gone?
Gone for husbands everyone.
Oh, when will they ever learn?
Oh, when will they ever learn?
Where have all the husbands gone, long time passing?
Where have all the husbands gone, long time ago?
Where have all the husbands gone?
Gone for soldiers everyone
Oh, when will they ever learn?
Oh, when will they ever learn?
Where have all the soldiers gone, long time passing?
Where have all the soldiers gone, long time ago?
Where have all the soldiers gone?
Gone to graveyards, everyone.
Oh, when will they ever learn?
Oh, when will they ever learn?
Where have all the graveyards gone, long time passing?
Where have all the graveyards gone, long time ago?
Where have all the graveyards gone?
Gone to flowers, everyone.
Oh, when will they ever learn?
Oh, when will they ever learn?
Where have all the flowers gone, long time passing?
Where have all the flowers gone, long time ago?
Where have all the flowers gone?
Young girls have picked them everyone.
Oh, when will they ever learn?
Oh, when will they ever learn?
>>27341354
Why should the man have to change himself to appease the women?
That the same bullshit shaming rhetoric women use to manipulate men into going out of their way in order to change for the women who isn't ever going to go out of her way to change for the man.
>>27341353
>with the highest divorce numbers occurring during the late early 30s to late 40s
The really interesting thing about that is that this is also the point at which men stand to lose the most if they were married 20's\30's (as most men who marry are).
At this point they've spent a decades worth of time and investment on the woman, and the woman gets the most out of cashing out at this point, the man is left a complete wreck with DECADES of his labouring time stolen from him directly, while huge amounts of time were ALSO deducted from his life by the state in the name of 'helping families' (spending on healthcare, education, etc) which only ends up ultimately destroying families.
Fuck being a cuck, even the one case I thought had the most chance of working out, the woman seemed the nicest of all of them, ended up going for the intervention order->> cashout route.
Had to see my own fucking brother arrested and taken away by police for "domestic violence" against a woman who was the REAL domestic abuser against him, and everyone knew it!
>>27341354
Kek. I had this happen to me.
>>27341385
Confirming, all I did was post here and got lucky.
>>27341354
>Implying
I spent most of my life absolutely alone - not because of choice but almost entirely because of women rejecting men and having their 'fun' without having time for introvert boy. It was never a choice to live like that, it was the best life I could live considering how women act.
Now I'm older and have at least some value to women, I actually get some degree of interest - but I'm literally incapable of a relationship on that level because of the years of isolation others subjected me to.
>>27341354
>men need to change and be something they're not in order to get into my pants
Females are evil incarnate.
>>27341524
Brah you're not changing who you are, you're improving yourself :^)
I'll explain it for all these cucks and butthurt roasties. It's not about how much sex a women has had, it's simply down to the fact that you're only dating someone like us because you have fucked up all your life and slept with chad the whole time and now you come to us because only because we have been the only ones who haven't treated you like shit. No one wants to be someone's number 2 so yeah when all you do is go to the club, fuck chads, and get STIs you are fucking disgusting.
>all this roastie bait ITT
Is there a single board on this site that won't respond to bait?
>>27341353
Oh those noble men, doing their jobs. Sure they're glad somebody's out there throwing a tantrum for them.
>>27341429
>At this point they've spent a decades worth of time and investment on the woman, and the woman gets the most out of cashing out at this point, the man is left a complete wreck with DECADES of his labouring time stolen from him directly, while huge amounts of time were ALSO deducted from his life by the state in the name of 'helping families' (spending on healthcare, education, etc) which only ends up ultimately destroying families.
It's far worse in Japan. There is a huge rising trend for women to leave their husbands after they finally get their retirement payout after working like a dog for most of their life as a salary man, leaving the man essentially lost and without his income. These women basically spent the money on enjoying themselves to they die. There is a high rate of suicide of the ex-husbands in these divorces. They even have a word for this (cancerous roumaji because the robot doesn't allow Japanese): shujinzaitakusutoresushoukougun. This is basically the "condition" of "distress" that women feel as their husbands are reaching retirement age. Which is more or less an excuse for them to divorce without feeling any guilt and living easy.
It's fucking disgusting but in Japan and Asia in general, men are treated like complete fucking shit. Here is an article:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4741018.stm
If you aren't familiar with Japanese names, what it worth keeping in mind is that the people who are blaming the husbands for the breakdown of the marriage are all, you fucking guessed it, female. Good luck finding much information about the men who suffer in silence and take their lives. There is almost nothing about it on English news sites, because the west is desperate to hide the negatives of women, and even Japanese mainstream outlets are the same fucking shaming shit. You can get some pretty candid insights into just why so many Japanese men are refusing to get into relationships, on chat sites and text board and the like.
>>27341606
Are you honestly trying to mock the hardworking men who keep your power, water and Internet working? Who make sure food and goods are transported around the world?
You're fucking repulsive.
>>27341674
I'm mocking you. Do I need to tell you you do none of that good honest work?
Women are worthless.
It's sucks, because I always dreamed of marrying my virgin wife, with whom I'd build a life, a brand new house, and love each other.
But I'm not settling for some slut that's had 80 dicks in her cus "girls just wanna have fun xd"
>>27341645
That's sad as fuck. I wish another flood would come and kill us all.
>>27341704
>I'm mocking you
You may as well be mocking yourself for all you've done is act like a fucking fool.
>Do I need to tell you you do none of that good honest work?
I spent nearly a fucking decade doing that honest work, you fucking piece of shit. You know what it cost me? Permanent lung damage, shortened lifespan and a legal system that makes it almost impossible to get any compensation.
If you were here in person I would honestly strangle you till you were covered in your shit and piss. People like you deserve death.
>>27341645
Thanks for the detailed response anon. I'm from Australia so my experiences are pretty limited to here, but I've also talked to a bunch of women on VK.com (the Russian facebook, basically) and I was shocked by how many women 30+ just up and divorce their husbands for some trivial reason.
I feel like there's a mental process that we're born with where we as men try to rationalise and tell ourselves that women elsewhere or in another time were better, when the reality is theyv'e always and everywhere been terrible.
>>27341704
You do know it's the western man who guarantees your freedom right? Without people like us you would become slaves to Arabs and be put in a garbage bag and live the rest of your life in a closet. But ya keep sleeping around with Jamal and try to alienate us it's gonna do you women wonders in the future.
>>27341784
Sucks, just like my uncle honestly. Just try and be less of a cocksucking fag about it, and don't make it out like it was military service.
>>27341809
At least before getting a divorce was taboo and frowned upon which forced women to make up with their husbands. These days it's encouraged to get a divorce and sleep around.
>>27341784
Same here. I haul mail for a living and last week I tore my tendon in my rotorary cuff and was told my shoulder will never be the same. All the while that whore who's mocking us probably has an office job where she bosses other hard working men around meanwhile pondering what sushi she will order for lunch.
