Should we remove bad things from the internet?
>>27329262
yes.
feminist like you should be banned from using the internet
see how it works?
>newgrounds
Kek
Child Porn is illegal only because its creation involves the harming of children. Same with like snuff film shit, if it was made intentionally for the internet. Intense doxxing / harassment should also not be allowed. You should be able to express your opinions without fear of exposure. Yes, even shit-tier feminists. The fact that they do the doxxing doesn't mean it's okay for us to do it. I mean sure, fight fire with fire, I totally support that, but that doesn't make it okay. Really the feminists should be prosecuted and/or sued for their doxxing.
Other than that, words are words. The only acceptable exceptions to free speech are threats and libel/slander from a reputable source. Any of this "hate crime" shit is literally a violation of your first amendment rights, as is this "safe space" online bullshit.
All those faggots who say "lol you should face the consequences of your actions" are fucking cowards. They want these "consequences" of social shunning to keep people quiet. That is fear, that is not free speech. Anonymity is the ONLY time there is true free speech, and these fuckers need to realize that. Randall Munroe should be battered to death with a fucking hammer, and that's coming from someone who keks at XKCD on a daily basis. I hope he gets fucking cancer for his shit opinions.
>popular loli websites
>newgrounds.com
Is this bitch serious?
What the fuck is with white people trying to limit the rights of people who have literally no affect on them?
>>27329394
>Intense doxxing / harassment should also not be allowed
>it should be illegal to look at public information
Stop, you retard.
No one is harmed by a fucking drawing. Fuck off
>>27329262
>newgrounds
>cp
What the fug
they have some nice flashes tho
The pastebin
>[zone-"sama"s newgrounds page](https://zone-sama.newgrounds.com/)
>["Freako"(the guy who ruined The Last of Us by turning it into creepy porn)](http://freakorama1.newgrounds.com/)
>Also of note, the former is friends with Arin of Game Grumps. He has mentioned him on his show and it's clear they are friends from his newgrounds days. I know GG gets loves from some people here, but they really don't deserve it until they publicly denounce newgrounds and their continued catering to pedophiles. And when I say pedophiles I *mean* child molesters. You don't **need** to make a distinction and don't try to tell me otherwise.
>[This is where many of the scumbags of newgrounds hang out.](http://www.hentai-foundry.com)
>[One of the more prolific western publishers and is home for zone's work](hentaikey.com )
>[while they don't cater to pedophiles exactly they do cater to sick fetishes involving incest mother x son.](http://www.meetandfuckgames.com)
>[ another prolific western site.](http://www.palcomix.com/comics.html)
>Finally e-hentai.com -- which they have a hidden child porn site called exhentai.org - not sure how to get there as it never works for me but I found it in my friend's browser history and it works on his computer (more info below). Also a website called [DLsite](http://www.dlsite.com/girls/) [OR](http://www.dlsite.com/gay/) and [WORST OF ALL](http://www.dlsite.com/maniax).
>I can't read Japanese but they all have child porn.
>>27329394
>Child Porn is illegal only because its creation involves the harming of children
I saw this article on wikileaks way back that kind of ran through the CP industry since the internet age. I just found it again
https://wikileaks.org/wiki/An_insight_into_child_porn
he alleges that CP used to be 'tasteful' like little professional photoshoots where the kids would have a fun time parading around and that most the hardcore abusive stuff came from family members who tried to one-up each other on internet boards by sharing the most fucked up stuff they could.
When governments shut down the 'on the level' operations it only increased the amount of people searching out of the more abusive stuff.
It's a long read, but I found it somewhat interesting.
>>27329637
>When governments shut down the 'on the level' operations it only increased the amount of people searching out of the more abusive stuff.
that's such bullshit
>>27329636
>but I found it in my friend's browser history and it works on his computer
Kek
Makes me glad I don't have friends.
>loli = cp
>>27329636
the moral outrage is hilarous
porn is protected by the First Amendment you cucks
>>27329649
Maybe I worded that wrong, it's more of like, when the tasteful magazine stuff was suppressed, it meant the individual operations of uncles in basements that were taking advantage of kids became the bigger source of CP anyone looking for it would find online. Not that they were searching it out per se, but that the share of the more abusive stuff inevitable increased after the alternatives were shut down.
>>27329448
>>27329569
Pedos crawling out
Muh rights
>>27329819
Nah, seriously, you whites are retarded.
And I know from experience that you don't actually give two shits about the children, you just care about LOOKING like you do.
I dealt with my own issues with molestation, and I would NEVER dream of banning fucking drawings because I'm not retarded.
Your virtue-signalling bullshit doesn't work anonymously, fuck off.
>>27329819
If there isn't a victim then there's no crime. Fuck off
>>27329394
Already made CP doesn't harm children.
In any case, these things are illegal because they are socially degenerate. It's okay to ban things for that reason.
>>27329877
>It's okay to ban things for that reason.
No it isn't. Your personal fee fees do not trump someone's rights.
>>27329877
>It's okay to ban things for that reason.
No, not really.
Banning something because "I DON'T LIKE IT! IT MAKES ME FEEL ICKY!" is the same shit liberals do.
>>27329887
>rights
Laughing materialist philosophers.jpeg
>>27329900
It's not about how it makes us feel, it's about a degenerate, insidious effect on society.
>>27329900
>Banning something because "I DON'T LIKE IT! IT MAKES ME FEEL ICKY!" is the same shit liberals do.
banning things related to sex is the domain of cuckservatives like Ted Cruz
muh god
>>27329909
free speech is a right. Drawings fall under free speech.
Go rot in a ditch you stupid feminist.
>>27329909
>It's not about how it makes us feel, it's about a degenerate, insidious effect on society.
Literally the exact same argument that liberals make.
>THIS RACIST RHETORIC MAKES SOCIETY AT LARGE WORSE
Kill yourself.
>>27329921
I don't know where retards get the idea that God gives half a hat-full of fuck about man-made drawings.
>>27329900
Sorry but allowing CP, homosexuality, incest and bestiality is a liberal idea.
As the word liberal even implys.
Being conservative is about disagreing with that kind of degeneracy.
So please stop turning things into political mush.
>>27329935
Sounds like you're still a pleb who thinks "rights" are philosophically robust.
They aren't.
They're a fiction and they fall flat as soon as they abrogate social utility.
>>27329944
Conservatives are retarded too though.
Being anti-liberal != being pro-conservative.
>>27329948
As long as the constitution exists we have a right to free speech. I dont give a fuck about whatever third world shit hole you live in where you think drawings are some kind of threat to society at large
>>27329936
>Literally the exact same argument that liberals make.
That's why they make those arguments. Because the framework is correct, the conclusions are just wrong.
Did you actually think "YOURE ACTING LIKE LIBERALS KIND OF" was an argument or something, you fucking retard?
Go study some actual philosophy. 'Rights' are usually justified by idealism, and materialist justifications of 'rights' are paper thin. Materialism is correct; idealism is not.
>>27329856
The problem is that I have to breath the same air as you do faggot.
Your "fetish" is so disgusting that I'm seriously hoping you going to literally end your life.
And those mental gymnastics to justify a abomination like you are impressive.
You realize that the majority of the world population would like you being hanged?
>>27329969
Oh god, are you some Molyjew faggot?
For a Libertarian, you sure don't know shit about the non-aggression principle.
Drawings hurt no one and cause no harm, fuck off.
>>27329935
Hoping you people die a painful death and expressing that feeling is also freedom of speach.
>>27329984
you sure typed out a lot of words to say absolutely nothing at all.
Why are you so butthurt?
>>27329984
>More virtue-signalling
Like
Fucking
Clockwork
Stop pretending you actually give two shits about the safety of children, anyone that would hang a pedo for being a pedo is obviously not someone that cares too much for the safety of others.
>>27329994
I'm not a libertarian. Libertarianism (liberalism) is incorrect; the "non-aggression principle" is sophist trash.
I'm a fascist.
Anyways, you seem really dumb, so what's the point debating anything with you?
>>27329998
you are correct. Tell me you want me to die all you want, its not like I'll listen. Fucking loser.
>>27330016
>I'm a fascist.
Ahh good, so you're irrelevant.
Carry on then.
>>27330016
>I'm a fascist.
anon's mom wouldn't let him be hardcore
>>27329262
Who gets to decide what's bad?
>going after NG
>>27329958
>>27329958
Those right are created buy people.
Those rights can change.
And following the current zeitgeist your people going to die as soon as your precious right are shut down
I can't fucking wait
>>27330047
>being this in love with your own delusions
see a therapist.
>>27330040
Society does.
And if it comes to that topic we made our choise.
Of you all are so proud of your drawings that don't hurt anyone why don't you talk about that in public?
At your families dinner table? Fb, Twitter and what not.
In school, at work?
Because it is fucked up and you know it
>>27329465
Getting people fired from their jobs, not even because of something they said, but because of some internet shitstorm causing liability concerns?
At the very least admit it's a gray area. What if someone doxxed you for your anti-woman shit on r9k?
>>27329569
Agreed. Pedos are sick but unless they can prove these drawings are causing more child molestation, they should be legal.
>>27330093
>At your families dinner table? Fb, Twitter and what not.
It's funny you mention that, because I have talked with my little sister about loli porn.
Granted, we're both pretty fucked up thanks to previous molestation, but yea, we don't care for the most part.
>>27329855
No one gives a fuck what you think about anything you street-shitting bitter little faggot.
>>27330008
The safety is not my only concern no.
Not pretending anything.
I give you an example.
People who have sex with animals are repulsive, mentally ill and disgusting.
In all honesty I don't give a hugh crap about the animals and I still would like those people being dead.
CP is similar besides that I actually also care about the kids
>>27329637
This honestly reads like "banning pot makes people want to do harder drugs" but whatever.
>>27329877
And making it legal encourages people to create more. Just like smoking marijuana is illegal even though they are after the dealers more than the consumers.
>>27329909
>It's not about how it makes us feel, it's about a degenerate, insidious effect on society.
Which is how you feel. Your argument is circular.
>>27329262
I think we should remove things like snuff films and child porn from the internet.
>>27330123
So you basically agree with my point since that example is the only one you came up with?
Also sorry for what ever happened to your family
>>27330154
>And making it legal encourages people to create more
Proof?
>Which is how you feel. Your argument is circular.
When you talk social utility (the most robust moral philosophy, utilitarianism) it IS based on feels. For example, "our society should proscribe X because humans tend to not like X".
The difference between these feels and authoritarian feels is that authoritarian feels aren't utilitarian. ie. "society should proscribe depictions of rape because they hurt my feelings" - that's a pretty limited niche.
>>27330188
>Also sorry for what ever happened to your family
Ehh, you're really not, don't patronize me.
I personally have been able to relate more with pedos to be honest (mainly because many of them also dealt with molestation), and the only time I've gotten shit for being molested was from normalfaggots. I don't buy this whole pedos are evil narrative, I think many are just misunderstood, and the fact that you'd kill someone just because of who they are is fucking disgusting.
Don't try to act like you're a decent person you piece of shit.
>>27330104
One, I don't post anti woman talk on /r9k/. Two, there is no way to connect my anonymous posts to my identity because I'm not an idiot. There is nothing illegal about sharing public information with a person's employer. If you are dumb enough to leave a trail back to your actual identity, you deserve anything you get. All you need is diversification of your online handles and emails as well as staying off social media. It's not that hard.
>>27329262
we should remove retards like you, yes
>>27330145
I feel the same way about homosexuals. Does that give me the right to kill them?
>>27330238
> There is nothing illegal about sharing public information with a person's employer. If you are dumb enough to leave a trail back to your actual identity, you deserve anything you get
So getting bombarded by harassment and death threats as a result of someone posting your personal information online, is okay?
And I guarantee you will slip up one day anon. Particularly if you ever become a more well-known internet figure. Like that person who made those anti-feminists comics. Did she deserve to get fucked over because of one tiny slip in her online identity?
You would not believe the ways I've seen people fuck up. And all that from posting somewhat controversial stuff online.
>>27330252
I don't have to right to kill you.
I only wish you would die.
You can wish homos a horrible death, wich I even understand if we talk about those shiny glitter faggots.
If you can't see that there gay I usually don't mind them being gay.
>>27330311
>If you can't see that there gay I usually don't mind them being gay.
I think all gays should be killed because they make society worse just by existing.
>>27330270
>So getting bombarded by harassment and death threats as a result of someone posting your personal information online, is okay?
Now you're moving the goal posts. There is a difference between doxxing and harassment. There is nothing wrong with proving public information. If people choose to use that information in a negative way, that's another problem all together. I have no desire to become an internet attention whore. That's why I post anonymously on 4chan. You can easily avoid all doxxing if you follow simple rules to keep your identity safe, so I have no sympathy for anyone who has their info leaked.
>>27330198
I'm confused... are you arguing both for and against CP shit?
I don't have any proof that making it legal encourages people to create more. But if you make it legal to own but not produce, you are giving an open market to the faggots who create it. The cops might not catch every pedo but they catch a lot of them and create an atmosphere of fear among them.
This might sound like a lot of bullshit but it is the reasoning behind vice law type shit and I agree with it. Admittedly I am biased because i don't really have any vices. But saying it's okay to have it is tantamount to saying it's okay to make more.
Not to mention spreading the image around just increases the humiliation and embarassment of whatever poor kid is in the picture. The cops should track down and destroy as many of these images as possible. They were made illegally, they are illegal images.
Jerk off to loli for all I care. I understand the point you are trying to make but a firm stance on this is best, if you ask me.
> When you talk social utility (the most robust moral philosophy, utilitarianism) it IS based on feels. For example, "our society should proscribe X because humans tend to not like X".
Okay.
> The difference between these feels and authoritarian feels is that authoritarian feels aren't utilitarian. ie. "society should proscribe depictions of rape because they hurt my feelings" - that's a pretty limited niche.
I'm not sure exactly what your point is. One man's degeneracy is another man's ... whatever, enjoyment or something. Some people think casual sex is degeneracy. Some people think marriage is degeneracy. Some people think gays are degeneracy. Some people think video games are degeneracy. Vidya gives loads of dudes excuses to sit inside all day and do fuck all. Should we ban that too?
Sorry I'm not familiar with utilitarianism. I mean I can guess but that would probably be overlooking some important aspects of it.
>>27330220
I am sorry.
Feel patronized lady Idc
But you're only showing how fucked up your past made you.
Also statistically you have a significant risk to molest other people yourself.
Wich will lead to new victims/predetors.
Your life is fucked up and I feel very sorry for you
>>27330348
>You can easily avoid all doxxing if you follow simple rules to keep your identity safe, so I have no sympathy for anyone who has their info leaked.
Okay. In one post, please give me all of these guidelines. Because I guarantee you will miss at least one or two things that I have seen cause people to get fucked over and leaked.
If you actually catch all of them then I will be impressed. Also be somewhat specific, you can't just say "don't post anything with your name on it."
And no I don't think that's moving the goal posts. Why do people dox? Ask yourself that question. The motive here is important to me. If you think that should be irrelevant to law then please take a look at our current murder laws because I think you will see an issue there.
Yeah it's a hard thing to legislate and I don't necessarily think it should be legislated but it should at least be discussed further.
>>27329649
Or, you know, it's what happens EVERY fucking time a government tightens the screws.
How do you think crystal meth and crack got so huge?
>>27330351
It's a tightrope. In a society where causal sex was outright banned, the will of the people would factor into the utilitarian algebra. What is the psychological effect this is having on people? Does the positive social effect justify it (lower illegitimacy, lower divorce rates, etc.)? When the law is too draconian, the answer is usually "not really". People don't like feeling overly restricted.
As for CP, I would ban it on grounds that few people desire it, and it harms children and the moral fabric of society.
>>27330356
>Feel patronized lady Idc
I'm not a woman.
>Also statistically you have a significant risk to molest other people yourself.
I've spoken with other molestation victims (granted, it was online) and most of them are disgusted at the thought of ever harming a child (as am I). I won't deny that I've been fucked up by it, but I don't buy this idea that it makes you more likely to go on to abuse others, especially since, if you have any sense of empathy, you know what it feels like to have that happen to you.
I have no sympathy for child molesters, but I see nothing wrong with allowing pedos to live their lives without being treated like monsters or threatened with death.
>>27330402
Because people like drugs. Stop reading reddit.
>>27330416
My problem with pedos is that I'm not convinced they wouldn't easily become opportunistic offenders. I have a massive (normal sex drive) and I'd opportunistically have sex with adult women, too. I know myself, and therefore I know you.
You would justify it as non-rape, of course.
We should ban the Internet. Being exposed to all these people with different opinions and outlooks at life is too scary.
>>27330445
>I'd opportunistically have sex with adult women, too.
That's because sex with adult women is legal.
Sex with children (for most of the world) is not.
Most of the time the pedos (if they have the money) will just go to countries where having sex with children is legal, or where parents are so desperate for money that they'll pimp their children out to foreigners, which, while disgusting, is in my opinion mainly the fault of the parents. It's betrayal of the highest order, and only results in a completely fucked generation of people.
>>27330416
You're not buying the idea are you kidding me?
It's fucking proven that a most people that molest children have been molested them selfs.
This not a question of opinions
It's a fact
The ambivalent feeling you have towards these people only proofe that statement.
I'm a man.
Don't patronize me!!!1!
>>27330482
How is them fucking Thai children any fucking better?
Of course it's the parent's fault but it doesn't takes away the responsibility of the pedos
>>27330492
>It's fucking proven that a most people that molest children have been molested them selfs.
The last study I'd seen didn't show much correlation, but I don't know, maybe it was incorrect.
Do you have a more recent/accurate study?
>The ambivalent feeling you have towards these people only proofe that statement.
What?
There are plenty of people who WEREN'T molested that sympathize with pedos.
>>27330016
You are aware that online anonymity would most likely be banned by a true fascist society for being degenerate and subversive right?
>>27329262
>bad things
No. The thing is when you say "we need to get rid of bad things" different people will say different things are bad.
There are people who want to censor games like Dead or Alive Xtreme Beach Volleyball because they're child pornography... except there's no nudity... and no sex... and no prepubescent characters. People said the same thing to get Bravely Default and Bravely Second censored... except that game also contained no nudity.... and no sex... and no prepubescent characters. But still, they've been censored and one isnt being released in the west.
I cant in good faith promote or defend censorship. Just because you think something is bad doesnt give you the right to destroy it. If it did we'd be living in some horrible future where SJWs can delete comments that are not politically correct and censor video games because thin women in bikinis trigger them.
Oh shit. It's already happened.
>>27330515
>How is them fucking Thai children any fucking better?
It's not, I'm just stating that it's not really something that's looked at legally like it would be in a first world country.
And there's always a responsibility for both sides, I agree, but any parent that would willingly give up their children's innocence to some child molester is equally disgusting.
>>27330536
No, you just fell for the 'le fascism' Jewish intellectual meme.
Fascism isn't about the abrogation of freedom. It's about having the rule of law reflect a contemporary understanding of human nature,
no, but we should remove ironic bait threads like these that are shitting up the board
>>27330522
Don't play that game with me.
You know very well that it takes 30 seconds to Google that.
Yes, those people either also people with paedophile tendencies or a small amount of fanatic liberals who think every fucking thing is OK and natural.
For example Germany in the 80/90.
There was a big wave of
-legalize everything-
Now they shamefully try to cover up what they said 20 years ago.(green liberal party)
>>27330612
>You know very well that it takes 30 seconds to Google that.
What a weak cop-out.
>Yes, those people either also people with paedophile tendencies or a small amount of fanatic liberals who think every fucking thing is OK and natural.
That seems more like a generalization than anything else.
I'm sure there are some groups like that, like the one in Sweden that wants to legalize necrophilia and incest, but I doubt they make up as large a proportion of the sympathizers as you believe.
>>27330395
>don't share photos of yourself or your surroundings online
I've seen people get caught because they either recognize the person, a location, or an item that ties to their workplace
>No geotagging
Obvious
>diversify your emails and handles
This is the one that gets people the most. Using the same online handle allows people to link your activity across websites. You may post small things here and there but all of them together give people enough information to find you. Also use a variety of emails and never use your email as your handle. Many people get traced back to their facebook and other social media because they used the same email. I've also seen people get caught because they have a donate button that links to paypal. From the paypal address, they've found more information.
>never discuss online activities in person
People are fickle and will dime you out in a second. Even your parents may accidentally give you away if you mention these things to them.
>never discuss personal activities online
>just don't post any personal information about yourself online
Don't use social media, don't fill out those biography sections on websites. Keep your virtual life and real life separate.
If you follow that, I don't see how someone could ever link a regular forum user to an actual person.
>>27330571
You can't deny that the whole idea of open Internet is degenerate and destroys social cohesion in society. It would honestly be better if the Internet were removed from private use and returned to its rightful place as a work education and research tool only.
Plus 4chan was from the very start a place for porn and perversity. Don't deny that it is basically a social evil.
If you want to fix the porn problem (not just talking child porn) it's better to keep the whole Internet away from the masses. China had the right idea. They put kids in rehab for Internet addiction. If the US did that there would be no robots.
>>27330571
I love how people make up there own definition for fascism, communism and religion.
No fascism society ever approved that kind of behavior.
Most likely the would have cleaned the society from people like you.
Family and traditions, an ideology that puts the survival and power of the country over the right of the individual.
What kind of mental gymnastics are you practising that you think fascism would approve sexual degeneracy.
(The only thing I could maybe see is that age of consent would be lower.
Lower but obviously post puberty)
>>27330683
I think there are more palatable intervention methods that have yet to be tried in the case of severe outliers (such as those you're discussing).
Japan is doing some NEET intervention stuff. It's in its infancy, but it's there.
>>27330660
What exactly gave you the idea that they are so many sympathisers for that?
I googled that in a lot of cases people demand either harsher punishment or even death penalty for those people.
No sympathy at all.
And that's with German and English result s.
,
>>27330720
Honestly all that's needed to fix the neet problem is communal labor of some sort required in high school and a culture where young marriage was the norm.
But you can't deny most people here wouldn't be sexually degenerate in any way if private Internet never existed.
>>27330796
>What exactly gave you the idea that they are so many sympathisers for that?
More on the local level, but I live in America.
Most people I've interacted with and talked to about this kind of thing don't believe that pedophiles who keep to themselves should be punished so long as they don't harm anyone.
>>27330674
Yeah, and you need to watch out for exif data too.
>>27330856
That's the thing. I don't think they should be punished if they don't do anything.
Especially because you can't punish someone for something he haven't done.
I actually feel bad for these creatures.
Doesn't mean they are not a potential danger to society.
Doesn't mean looking at pictures of kids is disgusting and sick(in a sexual context obviously)
Doesn't mean that I don't hope that they end there life if they realize that there urges get uncontrollable
Doesn't mean that I want to beat the living hell out of you If you promote that it's perfectly normal to look at kids picture's in a sexual way
>ITT: Reddit gets butthurt
quick, post loli to make the redditors leave
>>27331018
And you've been brainwashed into dehumanizing these people for something that they most likely had no control over.
I mean really, I understand the anger, I was angry for years at the thought of pedophiles, hell, even to this day I still have the occasional urge to kill the person who molested me (even moreso considering I still interact with her from time to time), but I'm not going to get angry or fight against drawings because of my own personal issues, because drawings don't hurt anyone.
I don't wish for pedos to kill themselves, I wish they could get help so they wouldn't feel the urge to molest children, and I don't think banning loli or shota is going to fix their issues.
>>27331087
Funny I agree with 80% you just said
(Besides the fucked up personal part about having still contact with that dude/chick)
But you are actively normalising and promoting this behavior.
There are therapy option for this people.
But to go tho therapy the first have to realize how wrong there desires and wishes are.
This not going to happen by saying.
"Watch your pedo drawings, your good"
This is not a joke or freedom of speech.
This is dangerous and should be promoted as wrong an dangerous.
Next step from loli is actual footage of children.
And people justify it with "its already happend".
But you know it creates a demand for nrw and different pictures.
If just one word of your story is true and you are not a troll you should reconsider your position.
Because you actively promoting horrible thing that created a society that will harm children
>>27331184
>Next step from loli is actual footage of children.
MUH SLIPPERY SLOPE!!!!1111!!!1
link to reddit post?
>>27331184
This isn't about whether or not I believe loli can "help" pedos, it's about whether or not I believe loli should be banned, and I don't, because loli, a drawing, doesn't harm anyone.
You can argue that it harms society, but so does
>Homosexuality
>Feminism
>Fast food
>Low-effort schoooling
>Differing views (which can cause tension, for example, look at the bombings we just had in Belgium)
I realize that you're a fascist, but if you want to ban things that you believe harm society, there are MUCH bigger and more widespread issues than loli porn.
>Next step from loli is actual footage of children.
Are you serious anon?
>>27331184
>This is not a joke or freedom of speech.
>This is dangerous and should be promoted as wrong an dangerous.
>Next step from loli is actual footage of children.
this is just straight up McCarthyism. Drink bleach you fucking faggot
>>27330335
Everything in your "absurd" statement is correct
Memory erasure technology when.
>>27331018
I think the majority of non offending pedophiles are just porn addicts who only got into the sick shit out of addiction and tolerance. I think if anything it's ALL porn that needs to be kept away from children in a much more enforced manner. I also think a good half of gay/bi people are the same and would go back to being straight if they quit porn for a few months. I think most non offending ones really have a fetishist for forbidden Porn and not for real people and are conditioned to only be able to get off to images and videos period.
The ones who actually act usually have
deeper problems like a history of abuse, or just low IQ, drugs or other things that heavily impair judgment.
>>27331184
People also underestimate how much subliminal sexual stuff is in Non pornographic media. I firmly believe furries are the result of childhood cartoons especially Disney. And 4chan itself is inherently degenerate and has definitely made Normal people into trap enthusiasts.
Honestly if all TV and Internet was just universally banned and kids were forced to live a natural life closer to reality there would be very few of these deviants period.
If you're gonna ban media go right to the source and realize that the media as a whole is the problem. More nature less screen is the only real answer.
>gays cant help wanting to fuck the same gender
>pedos can control wanting to fuck kids, they are evil
>>27329636
>exhentai.org - not sure how to get there as it never works for me but I found it in my friend's browser history and it works on his computer
I lost my sides and I don't think I'll ever find them again
>>27331251
There bigger problem in our society yes.
But I can't address them all.
I'm not for banning loli.
I think banning porn in general would have a great impact on our society but it's literally impossible now.
I just don't want it to be prompted as normal.
Because it's fucking not!
It's not normal to sexualize a kid. It's just fucking not no Mather how you twist it.
Being attracted to children is a mental illnes
>>27331357
It is possible you just have to regulate ISPs and literally ban any and all home Internet service. Make the Internet a public institution you have to leave the house and browse while other people are looking
>>27331304
I don't think you realize who many people think the same.
Our society is completely on the wrong road.
To bad humans can't handle freedom
>>27331304
>I think the majority of non offending pedophiles are just porn addicts who only got into the sick shit out of addiction and tolerance.
[citation needed]
i've been into loli since i was a kid myself. never been into anything else except rarely shota when i'm in the mood. never been very attracted to adults, never found any other fetishes appealing. i just like vanilla loli for the most part, i'm not even particularly into penetration, i generally prefer softcore.
>>27331396
>literally ban any and all home Internet service.
fuck off grandpa
>>27331251
And on that note, I don't know how many people actually go out and molest children because of porn they saw.
The person who molested me did so after being raped by a group of men, even before then we'd been pretty close and I'm sure she'd seen plenty of odd porn. I think the porn habits can exacerbate personal issues that rise from being abused, but I don't believe that the porn itself really has that much of an effect.
>>27331357
>I just don't want it to be prompted as normal.
I don't think anyone is saying it's normal.
We all know (at least I hope) that it's not normal.
Hell, I've even admitted that I'm pretty fucked up, that's part of why I have so many fucked fetishes of my own.
And yes, I agree that being attracted to pre-pubescent girls is a mental issue, it's just outright not normal, but I think the issue lies with our society. After all, look at everyone trying to normalize being a tranny and not wanting to call trannies mentally ill.
>>27331396
It's just impossible to have this option in a democracy.
People will freak out if you take away there candy.
I'm considering getting rid of my smartphone because I can't handle my freedom either
>>27331401
Most people don't deserve Literacy.
I shat brix once I realize this to be the truth.
Literacy just causes misery and corruption for the masses. The West got great on the backs of a strong peasant class who were perfectly happy illiterate with tight knit families.
Then the industrial revolution and modern medicine ruined everything and also meant that failures of people like me would live to adulthood instead of just dying as kids.
But on the other hand I'm an electrical engineer and my whole life is technology. I'd be even more useless than I already am if it were taken away. I was autistic far before I even used the Internet. I'm just genetic trash.
>>27331440
OK sorry bro but that's even to hardcore for me.
>>27331304
>lol just ban porn
>>27331344
i've actually seen sjw's suggest that they stop using that argument specifically because they don't like how easy it is to turn it around to support pedos
>nope, no cognitive dissonance here we fixed it
>its a roastie and beta army disguise jealousy with porn as a moral outrage they arent being pampered thread
>>27331440
>The West got great on the backs of a strong peasant class who were perfectly happy illiterate with tight knit families.
Yea man, I'd love to nearly starve every day and lose 3 out of 7 of my children in childbirth so I can MAYBE marry off one of my daughters to some nobleman before dying of small pox or syphilis at age 39.
>>27331464
I don't always believe it myself. It's just self hate and feeling that ignorance is bliss. And I've been reading too much Unabomber manifesto (another autist who seems eerily similar to me except that I would never have it in me to bomb anything)
>>27331514
If you were born then you wouldn't have known modern comforts so you'd be tougher. It would be just fine to you or you'd just be dead quickly and it would be over. Plus only the most degenerate whores and whore customers got syphilis.
As a '' beta'' in the past you would either have an arranged marriage thru church or could become a monk
>>27331514
Also are you a girl? That would explain your line of thinking a lot
>>27331545
>As a '' beta'' in the past you would either have an arranged marriage thru church or could become a monk
lol are you fucking kidding me? No, betas did not get women, even long ago. Stop with this "betas used to get girls" meme
>>27331596
If you knew anything you would realize they largely did because they were religious and marriage wasn't based on romance or the woman's choosing.
Look at India today for an example. All the beta nerds have equally average or ugly wives.
>>27331512
>its a moralfag spouts memes because he doesn't have any arguments thread
>>27331644
>literally said the moral outrage was manipulative whores
>im a moral fag
why are pedos so sick? look at the flooding into this thread to defend their pedoness. yuck.
I love little girls! Seriously, how do you people not see these cute little creatures and not realize how soft and cute they are? How does it not just feel so natural to want to touch them? How are you not instantly sent into a state of bliss by a little girl's gentle laughter?
Fuck all you normies, it feels so good and right to be a pedo and I'm not going to bother justifying myself to any of you hateful faggots any longer. You won't be happy no matter what I do. Even if I killed myself you'd say I was a coward for doing so. Fuck all you.
>>27331732
Ban 4chan all anonymous forums and pedos would have a lot less influence on the net. This is the truth.
>>27331732
>>27331752
It's like I'm literally on reddit!
>>27331776
Never been to reddit.
But 4chan outdoes reddit in degeneracy and always has. Channers only attack reddit to redirect from their own perversity.
Redditors are naive idiots who follow stupid trends but still have a moral sense.
4channers are largely nihilistic amoral and knowllingly degenerate
>>27331752
>>27331776
4chan used to have a pretty large amount of moralfags and anti-pedos on it, when it was overrun by reddtors that's when it started getting more pro-pedo.
reddt has a really strong tightknit pedo community, just like SA. and it has been pretty well established by older antis that SA has an private CP trading circle for the trustworthy members.
on 8ch, all of the pedoposters hail directly from reddit and are proud to admit so because reddit wouldn't "openly" allow them to post CP. (notice: 4chan has never really throw as big of a hissy fit over CP being against the rules as reddit has)
the more you know
>>27331831
>4chan used to have a pretty large amount of moralfags and anti-pedos on it
Yea man, that's why WT Snacks was totally run off the board.
>>27331801
No one care about degeneracy, gas yourself back to the /pol/ quarantine.
>>27331831
One reply is enough to make your post, idiot.
That is total bullshit. Go look at the original rules for /s/ on archive.org and it explicitly allows child models. We used to be able to have good 3d loli threads on /b/ as late asas 2008 when the moralshits arrived. And pretty much every board except the most normie ones are full of pedos.
>>27329394
>You should be able to express your opinions without fear of exposure
Thats why you shouldn't do it in a social media site with your real name/picture.
>>27329394
The person in OP's pic is talking about banning DRAWINGS featuring minors. Drawings don't hurt anyone, why ban them?
>>27331903
>board
Kek, site*
>>27331954
the only antis that are left are all oldfags. moralshits were always here.
the internet has been overrun with libfag degenerates like you. every board is full of pedos because reddit has a larger userbase and a stronger pedo population than 4chan ever did. go write an article praising pedophilia and post it on reddit, watch it get 6000+ upvotes.
back in 2007, you might have been jerking it to little kids being tortured like the degenerate you are, but some of us were stalking you and trying to ruin your lives.
>>27332071
>back in 2007
And it all comes to the forefront.
Chanology faggots thinking they aren't newfags.
>>27331596
There haven't been so many betas back then
>>27332071
Sure thing, SJW faggot. Have a loli.
>>27331747
That why we think killing you is the better solution.
You are obviously beyond saving
I'm not going to let this trigger me. I'm not. I've been getting better about letting things on the internet piss me off, I'm not going to let this idiotic feminist shill from reddit get under my skin. I'm better than that. I won't rant or rave, I won't hunt down her reddit account and send hate mail, I won't I won't.
Fuck.
>>27332213
Careful now, you wouldn't want to get your hands dirty touching the bad man. Science doesn't know if pedophilia is contagious or not.
>>27332213
I don't need saving, I need you to keep your retarded opinions to yourself and let me live my life in peace. Policing what cartoons people fap to is literally only a problem that could occur in a hugely sucessful modern society where every other problem is basically solved and the idea of famine is only in the abstract. Get a fucking hobby or something you bored little cunt.
>>27332259
What makes you think we have to touch you to kill you?
In case you wonder why I used "we"
It's because the majority of people wants you dead.
You are the scum of the earth.
People are more repulsed buy you than Isis Hitler and Mao together
>>27332322
The majority of people probably don't care to much. They just say they do because they don't want retards like you bothering them.
>>27332305
I just wanna live my life huuur durrr
Stop crying. This is not a case of "cyberbulling".
You liberal pedo are fucking ticking time bomb.
People try to open your eyes so you can see what a danger you are.
Seek help.
Don't hang out in "safe spaces" where people only tell you what you wanna hear.
>>27332350
Ask anyone with kids how often they think about there children being in danger from people like you.
I promise you they care a lot.
You just hide like cockroaches.
If you so proud of your preferences make it public and see howuch people don't care
>>27332409
4chan is a safe space for childless porn addicts. Good luck getting that point across here.
>>27332372
>hurr durr ur le timebong get halp and put ur name on a list so we can kill u and don't make friends with any1 else who understands u u should be content being the outcast weve made u
You have no fucking idea what you're talking about and you clearly don't want to know. All you want to do is be righteous and inflict suffering on the wicked. Shut the fuck up.
>>27332409
To be fair nobody sane makes their sexual preferences public even if it's just mildly embarrassing.
>>27331304
>People also underestimate how much subliminal sexual stuff is in Non pornographic media.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxoaKK6owAE
They drew Jonathan's coatsleeve in the shape of a cock and balls right in Angelica's face.
>>27331350
>Not learning how to make the sad panda go away
>2016
>>27332409
>>27332414
No need to reply to yourself little man.
Anyway though, fuck what you think, pedo pride, world wide, just to fucking spite you and your SJW cunt friends.
>>27332437
They don't? What about gay people?
If you're not in saudia Arabia they are pretty public.
>>27332414
>>27332409
Yeah, we're totally going to ban cartoon porn because of muh children.
Great arguments guys.
>>27332461
They shouldn't.
Nobody should.
Honestly the main reason there are so many fucked up people is that it's even considered OK to talk about ANYTHING sexual in public at all. Even straight sex. This spoils the magic of the real thing and the innocence of childhood.
40 years ago it would have been taboo to even talk about putting your penis in a vagina in high school.
>>27332464
Cartoon porn is a fringe issue.
All porn needs to go as well as most children's media which subtly sexualizes things.
In fact I'd be willing to say that ALL porn is child porn because it's easily accessible to children and the producers may know it.
>>27332464
I said multiple times banning shit is pointless.
Its about not making this a normal thing.
You don't just have a fetish or a preferenc.
You have a mental illness if you like CP drawn or not.
Banning it is impossible and pointless.
Pointing out that it's a dangerous road and getting shit on buy all you people shows how far you are already into this shit
>>27332515
>In fact I'd be willing to say that ALL porn is child porn
>>27332409
I hope you realize that most of the time when a child is abused, its done by a relative.
Everyone who watched porn as a teenage is basically functionally molested mentally by the producers of it
>>27332532
Yes that's right. Did I trigger you?
Even the way kids are allowed to dress in middle schools today is pornographic and damaging to society.
>>27332494
You're a retard if you think that's true. There were tonnes of public porn theaters all around the country and fetishism was just as alive and well back then. There have been folk medicine to act as birth control since the beginning of recorded history. The Victorians happily fucked 10yo prostitutes, even if they would die of embarrassment if they said the word "knickers" in an empty room. Shakespeare is full of references to sex too.
Humans are sexual. Get over it.
>>27332540
This x1000.
It's why I never understand why people go so insane over random pedos and don't look at their family.
>>27332553
>Everyone who watched porn as a teenage is basically functionally molested mentally by the producers of it
>>27332553
If society is that fragile, then it should be damaged, so we can rebuild a less retarded society.
>>27332558
Of course this shit happened. But majority were Christians who had families and it was a shameful black market.
Don't act like the Internet isn't millions of times worse.
>>27332540
That's true.
How exactly doe's that disproves what I'm saying?
How many
"uncle anon ..my dress got wet and can't take it of" threads are her on 4chan?
>>27332494
>Honestly the main reason there are so many fucked up people is that it's even considered OK to talk about ANYTHING sexual in public at all. Even straight sex. This spoils the magic of the real thing and the innocence of childhood.
>40 years ago it would have been taboo to even talk about putting your penis in a vagina in high school.
And yet the teen pregnancy rate in the US was sky high 40 years ago and it's much lower now (although higher than in countries like Norway)
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db89.htm
>>27332627
Teen pregnancy used to be a good thing. Because girls married younger and had families and knew their place.
Now we're so brainwashed we think teens fornication left and right is normal yet if a 17 year old wants to get married she's seen as a freak
>>27332515
>In fact I'd be willing to say that ALL porn is child porn
Well you can go ahead and say that, but you're objectively wrong, and there's nothing you can do to change that.
>>27332627
Maybe because it was main in the dick getting fucking birth control?
It's not about education? Kids supposed to learn how to protect them self from STDs and baby's.
The idea is that it maybe not the best thing if 16 year old think the have to have anal and rimming because "everyone" does it.
>>27332703
16 year olds and younger have been fucking since the beginning of time senpai
>>27332730
ok you have obviously problems understand what I'm saying.
Maybe I explained it wrong.
Teenagers having sex = normal and even if not impossible to change
Teenagers having there first sexual experience by having gang bang, anal, fisting, rimming because they think that's normal and standard and there is pressure on them
=
Not so normal and damaging but also probably impossible to change
>>27332813
It would be fixed with arranged marriages and abolishing public school past 8th grade and replacing it with job training.
>>27332813
>anal
What if the female partner has no vagina?
>>27332813
>Teenagers having there first sexual experience by having gang bang, anal, fisting, rimming
i dont think anyone does this, most people report their first times as being pretty vanilla.
>>27332828
You are so god damn retarded.
>>27332864
They do.
Rimming is new I admit that but give it another couple years to become truly mainstream.
Group sex is very common
>>27333030
>>27333030
>Rimming is new I admit that but give it another couple years to become truly mainstream.
>i-it's going to happen soon, just you wait! Y-you'll see!
>Group sex is very common
for a teenager's first time? Gonna need a source on that one.
>>27333064
First time means not literally first time.
More like first 10 sexual expirences
>>27333115
The main problem is less specific acts but the fact that it's even considered normal to have multiple sexual experiences before marrying.
This was normalized long before we were even born and it's really what's destroyed society the most out of anything.
Which is why I said that if it became normal to marry at 16-20 and public high school and sex education were eliminated it would fix a lot of problems at once. Including the 4chan sexual deviant problem (largely the result of suppression of proper marriages)
>>27329448
Only white people vote libertarian
I wouldn't be against such a thing, but the expression of leftist thought must also be suppressed.
Pedophilia is the truest form of love.
>>27329666
a) trips checked
b) steins gate is love
>>27333459
considering the partnership between a man and a woman is one where the stronger man provides the vulnerable woman with resources and protection, in exchange for love and affection, yes. parents should be happy there are men willing to take over that duty and free them from their burden so early
>>27329262
I totally agree with this guy. Things that encourage degeneracy like pedophilia and transsexuality need to be banned for the good of society.
>>27329675
No it isn you ignorant libertarian. Obscenity has NEVER been protected speech.
What the founding father's fapped too:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fanny_Hill
>first published in London in 1748
>Shortly after she turns 15 [...] shares a bed with Fanny and introduces her to sexual pleasure [...] Afterward, Phoebe and Fanny engage in mutual masturbation and Fanny looks forward to her first time having sex with a man [...] Charles visits Fanny almost daily to have sex [...]
>Fanny unwittingly drinks an aphrodisiac, and has sex with Mr. H. She concludes that sex can be had for pleasure, not just love. Mr. H puts Fanny up in a new apartment and begins paying her with jewels, clothes, and art. After seven months, Fanny discovers that Mr. H has been having sex with her maid, so she resolves to seduce Will, Mr. H's 19-year-old servant. A month later, Mr. H catches Fanny having sex with Will, and stops supporting her.
>A short time later, Fanny participates in an orgy with the three girls and four rich noblemen. >Mrs. Cole then introduces Fanny to Mr. Barville, a rich, young masochist who requires whipping to enjoy sex. After a short affair, Fanny begins a sexual relationship with an elderly customer who becomes sexually aroused by caressing her hair and biting the fingertips off her gloves.
>She spies on two young men engaging in anal sex in the next room. Startled, she falls off a stool and knocks herself unconscious. Although the two men have left, she still rouses the villagers to try to hunt the two men down and punish them.
>Fanny tells Charles everything about her life of vice, but he forgives her and asks Fanny to marry him, which she does.
>>27334807
You're right. The founders were degenerate freemason rejected by the whole of Europe for a reason.
America was degenerate from the very start.
>>27334840
Europe liked the founders though, and were very surprised when George Washington didn't declare himself a king. They saw the American Revolution as a very gentile sort, and thought it funny that the British were getting their asses kicked. It wasn't until Napoleon lit a fire under their asses that Europe got turned off to the idea of revolution.
